Lil Uzi Vert - More Than Just a Future Disciple?

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Any thoughts on him? Many people I've talked to seem to lump him in with Lil Yachty and Desiigner, but I think he's leagues better than Yachty—who's interesting in his own right, though untalented musically—and much less of a Future-clone than Desiigner. Uzi has gotten a lot of attention recently for his grating guest verse on "Bad and Boujee" (does anyone like it?), but I think it's not representative of his sound. He's the only "Soundcloud rapper" who has put together a cohesive full-length that I've liked front-to-back.

I haven't dug his new stuff as much—a couple tracks here and there—but his breakthrough mixtape, Luv is Rage, was one of my favorite full-lengths of 2015; it stayed in my car's disc changer for months. It calls to mind the spacey "Cloud Rap" sub genre that never fully took off in the late-00s/early-2010s. Favorite tracks include "Moist," "Ballin to the End," "Nuyork Nights at 21," and "Paradise."

Handsome Bookor, Wednesday, 29 March 2017 15:14 (four months ago) Permalink

I get why people hate him. His delivery has the same drony, place-holder quality of Wiz Khalifa, even though he's much more open to mixing things up than Khalifa. I think he was even signed to Khalifa's label? If so that's about right.

And like Wiz he seems like one of those cult of personality acts that doesn't really have all that much personality. But I won't write him off. His eagerness could take him somewhere special. And I'm all in for this track

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWImCCJG_JU

Evan R, Wednesday, 29 March 2017 15:28 (four months ago) Permalink

hes p good, I don't really hear future at all w him but ymmv I guess

all of luv is rage 1.5 is solid

johnny crunch, Wednesday, 29 March 2017 15:44 (four months ago) Permalink

i like his name

flappy bird, Wednesday, 29 March 2017 15:44 (four months ago) Permalink

The Wiz comparison seems apt, at least when it comes to his persona. Uzi is fairly hit or miss with me, I usually prefer him when he's working with an artist I like, like on "Woke Up Like This" by Playboi Carti or on "Too Much Sauce."

I'm a big fan of XO Tour Life 3 (or however he spells it), I think it's the best thing he's done yet.

neva missa lost, wednesday nights on abc (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 29 March 2017 16:35 (four months ago) Permalink

I get why people hate him. His delivery has the same drony, place-holder quality of Wiz Khalifa, even though he's much more open to mixing things up than Khalifa. I think he was even signed to Khalifa's label? If so that's about right.

Good point, forgot about the Wiz connection. Unsurprisingly, Khalifa is his favorite artist, which normally would give me pause, if his second favorite artist wasn't... Marilyn Manson. I mean, how many rappers wear platinum grills because Manson did it in the 90s. Plus, he refers to himself as a rock star, not a rapper, and his shows are supposed to be wild. Like you said, he does seem more open to mixing stuff up, and the dude has some pretty disparate influences, so I bet if he focused on one project for a while—instead of going into the studio and releasing whatever he records—he could make something pretty good, or at least more interesting than anything Khalifa has ever done.

Khalifa's fame always confused me, but it makes more sense in retrospect. Kush and Orange Juice came out in 2010, when I was a freshman in high school, and my friends had it on heavy rotation for about a year. No coincidence that most of Khalifa's fans were young, high school/college aged kids. Khalifa represented a lifestyle that was very appealing to a certain type of teenager: smoke everyday, all the time. He preached smoking ground rules (i.e. smoke paper, not blunts; stuff like that) that were easy to repeat and make you seem like a veteran. He was also unique and cool—making the music itself less essential—and that explains why all my friends dropped Khalifa when Rolling Papers came out, because there is NOTHING cool about that record.

Handsome Bookor, Wednesday, 29 March 2017 16:59 (four months ago) Permalink

Listening to The Perfect Luv Tape and I'm liking it much, much more than Vs. The World.

Seems weird that Uzi Vert is the act that's caused a lot of rap fans to draw generational lines in the sand. I've seen a few critics say something to the effect of "I'm just too old to get this," as if his appeal is some great mystery. He's just kind of a plucky, amicable dude who raps in pleasant trivialities.

Actually now that I type that out I'm getting a big Mac Miller vibe from him, too, which makes sense b/c Miller is another Khalifa disciple. I kind of see Uzi as widening Mac Miller's tent: He's got that same fundamental, "kids like this" college rap appeal, but he also makes overtures toward modernist, new Atlanta rap sounds. That's a recipe for explosive popularity

Evan R, Wednesday, 29 March 2017 17:28 (four months ago) Permalink

Jesus Christ 🙄

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Wednesday, 29 March 2017 18:52 (four months ago) Permalink

I refuse to let this be the Uzi Vert thread title

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Wednesday, 29 March 2017 18:52 (four months ago) Permalink

Uzi vert is first and foremost a chief keef disciple, he was doing philly fast rap styles until he discovered sosa, the evidence is everywhere:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5q7DyasMgw

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Wednesday, 29 March 2017 18:54 (four months ago) Permalink

I think he's first and foremost a trend hopper

Evan R, Wednesday, 29 March 2017 18:56 (four months ago) Permalink

Not saying he hasn't developed something like his own sound but the DNA of his shit is obvious. I guess from a marketing angle you could say his Bart Simpson truck decal persona is wiz Khalifa esque but musically flows Adlibs melodic approach are all Sosa

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixDvq80wZps

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Wednesday, 29 March 2017 18:56 (four months ago) Permalink

I think he's first and foremost a trend hopper

― Evan R, Wednesday, March 29, 2017 1:56 PM (one minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Not really, most of his stuff is pretty musically consistent

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Wednesday, 29 March 2017 18:58 (four months ago) Permalink

https://twitter.com/thugtear/status/846106761799065601

, Wednesday, 29 March 2017 19:00 (four months ago) Permalink

He def has many songs that sound like Sosa cosplay. But he draws a ton from Atlanta (Migos flows and Metro Boomin production). And his latest single is Khalifa by numbers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TxcJ3Ud-To

I mean, the song is LITERALLY from a Fast & Furious movie soundtrack. Seems p clear whose footsteps dude is following in

Evan R, Wednesday, 29 March 2017 19:06 (four months ago) Permalink

same sickly, mock-Stargate production too

Evan R, Wednesday, 29 March 2017 19:08 (four months ago) Permalink

I refuse to let this be the Uzi Vert thread title

Fair. Never thought Future was an apt comparison myself, but heard a lot of people calling him a clone when he was first blowing up, between when Luv is Rage and Uzi vs. the World came out, though that was probably due to superficial qualities (Metro Boomin beats, the autotune, the frequent xanax/codeine references) and the fact that Future was ubiquitous then (not that he's keeping a low profile now).

Handsome Bookor, Wednesday, 29 March 2017 19:20 (four months ago) Permalink

keef is the alpha and omega, the first and the last, the beginning and the end

blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 29 March 2017 19:35 (four months ago) Permalink

Cmon dude. He literally was for this generation the way Gucci was before that. I just posted a link to a video where uzi even admits it himself.

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Wednesday, 29 March 2017 19:37 (four months ago) Permalink

Just cuz he's doing commercial sellout records means he went the path keef didn't. "Sounds like wiz Khalifa" more like "sounds like the Atlantic records a&r department"

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Wednesday, 29 March 2017 19:40 (four months ago) Permalink

I don't remember him doing migos flows but obviously he has other influences and works with other producers (although he also works heavily with Dp beats who made his name producing beats in Keef's mansion)

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Wednesday, 29 March 2017 19:41 (four months ago) Permalink

"Sounds like wiz Khalifa" more like "sounds like the Atlantic records a&r department"

That is entirely what I meant by that statement.

Again, not denying that the guy listens to (and sometimes bites) Keef, or that Keef is hugely important (tho you are the only critic I know who keeps insisting he's this generation's Big Bang). I just think his Keef leanings have little to do with why he's so popular. I guess I don't have great insight into the mind of the average Uzi Vert fan, but I think most people just like the dude because of his pluckiness, and that is not a quality he picked up from Keef.

Evan R, Wednesday, 29 March 2017 19:59 (four months ago) Permalink

His entire sonic toolkit is his--flows, melodic approach, Adlibs, etc

I agree that he does things keef doesn't & im not trying to take away from the idea that he's worth listening to. But I do think that he was able to capitalize on the space that opened up when Keef's "bang2" style melodic raps went underground

I know that other critics haven't really come around on this but there was a time when that was true of gucci also

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Wednesday, 29 March 2017 20:06 (four months ago) Permalink

keef is patient. keef is kind. keef does not envy. keef does not boast.

blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 29 March 2017 20:15 (four months ago) Permalink

i do wish ilx wd it admit it was more invested in telling me i was wrong than it was taking the actual temperature of what was going on over the last 5 years

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Wednesday, 29 March 2017 20:18 (four months ago) Permalink

I know some of this is in the Keef thread, but I would be legit interested in reading a big-picture piece about Keef's influence. I follow his tapes from time to time and agree they tend to be way underrated. But to me he always seemed less like a Gucci-level pioneer and more like a Soulja Boy figure (no disrespect intended), a figure who had his moment in the limelight then retreated back underground and cultivated a much bigger cult following than most people realize.

Evan R, Wednesday, 29 March 2017 20:21 (four months ago) Permalink

https://twitter.com/MustiM17/status/845814776924164096

||||||||, Wednesday, 29 March 2017 20:28 (four months ago) Permalink

i do wish ilx wd it admit it was more invested in telling me i was wrong than it was taking the actual temperature of what was going on over the last 5 years

― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Wednesday, March 29, 2017 3:18 PM (ten minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

deej you know very well i'm more invested in dumb jokes than the actual temperature of what's going on in hip hop the last five years

blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 29 March 2017 20:29 (four months ago) Permalink

How is Soulja boy figure not at some level disrespectful? Lol

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Wednesday, 29 March 2017 20:36 (four months ago) Permalink

Soulja's influence was one dimensional Sosa's was a paradigm shift that changed the way rap sounded & created the world rappers exist in today, he was the bridge between the SoundCloud underground & the streets at a time when most artists were one or the other. And few rappers have negotiated that line since...famous dex comes to mind.

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Wednesday, 29 March 2017 20:38 (four months ago) Permalink

anyway no need to get into this here, uzi vert has some cool songs.

i think its weird he got a rep for being hip-hop pop punk when most of his melodies don't actually stick with you, like "do what i want" felt like an almost-not quite hit

his biggest record are much more subtle: "you was right" & now "xo tour lif3" are both relatively low key and work bc of small hooks that feel finessed rather than bludgeoning.

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Wednesday, 29 March 2017 20:51 (four months ago) Permalink

i don't think hip hop punk pop was about his melodies as much as about the tone of his vocals, the way he whines

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 29 March 2017 20:52 (four months ago) Permalink

the "rock star" thing seems to be largely like he dresses goofy and it's a good line to spout in an interview but unless i've missed something it doesn't seem to have any actual basis in his music

blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 29 March 2017 20:53 (four months ago) Permalink

to me i always read uzi vert as like a fairly boring rip off of like swaggy ATL rap... not future or anything like that but yung LA, j futuristic, fabo... but with cool of the moment branding that positioned him in an asap rocky-esque fashionplate context

he does have some songs that i like -- you was right and xo tour life are both very good if not close to being the same song, do what i want was fun too -- but i still can't imagine listening to a full album of his really, don't think there's really enough there

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 29 March 2017 20:55 (four months ago) Permalink

i don't think hip hop punk pop was about his melodies as much as about the tone of his vocals, the way he whines

― J0rdan S., Wednesday, March 29, 2017 3:52 PM (three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah he has kind of a sneer, i think its also about owning his petulance as a kind of branding thing, hes like calvin peeing on a chevy logo mudflap

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Wednesday, 29 March 2017 20:56 (four months ago) Permalink

yeah def -- it's almost all branding

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 29 March 2017 20:58 (four months ago) Permalink

hes def in the swaggy atl rap lineage but again via keef ... i mean visually thats his whole thing too, the baby dreads

i don't think you can really easily get past the way his style changed dramatically post-love sosa "senor guapo"

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Wednesday, 29 March 2017 20:58 (four months ago) Permalink

real news right now is how playboi carti f/ uzi vert jam is about to be huge:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAAl3OPkaKk

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Thursday, 30 March 2017 00:10 (four months ago) Permalink

Just popping in to note that the overshadowing influence on XO tour lif3 is thuggr, obvs.

human and working on getting beer (longneck), Thursday, 30 March 2017 11:18 (four months ago) Permalink

real news right now is how playboi carti f/ uzi vert jam is about to be huge

For some reason, I only like Uzi solo, never when he has a guest or when he's giving a feature. "Queso" and "Yamborghini Dream" are lowlights of Luv is Rage for me (and I normally love Thugger); don't care for "Seven Million" off The Perfect LUV Tape either. His "Bad and Boujee" verse is trash. The only guest feature of his that I dig, that comes to mind, is "Carnage."

Handsome Bookor, Thursday, 30 March 2017 12:34 (four months ago) Permalink

we rly gotta be more proactive in making threads for new rappers else get stuck with these 2001 ilx-style faux-incredulous thread titles like Are Migos The Thelonious Monk of Nu-Rap or this lmao. tried to make a cupcakke thread the other day but got poxyfule'd halp

i really like Lil Uzi but none of his releases so far are consistent and he has a lot of boring songs. but his best tracks are really good and i have high hopes for Luv Is Rage 2. Keef + Yung LA + Grunge/Pop-Punk affect is original enough for me

in hopes we don't spend the whole thread litigating Sosa's influence here are some Uzi songs i'm partial to

Money Mitch (prod. Zaytoven)
love the wobbly bassline
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAeLmXNHw90

Uzi (prod. Charlie Heat)
older song that is no longer representative of his style but bangs regardless
htts://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJUi0AWiL7g

Sideline Watching (prod. Zaytoven)
good hook hold up hold up / let me catch my breath / let me cash these checks / flex on my ex / don't got no respect / break up in a text / pull up in a g / t3 fly off in a jet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIwU-nOueWw

Ronda (Winners) (prod. Metro Boomin)
mostly like this one for the tropical beat
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5S9iEnUJeU

Erase Your Social (prod. Don Cannon)
this isn't such a good song but i have a thing for the micro-genre rap songs that are just opinions of social media platforms ('ain't got no snapchat homie/i think it's too personal/that's what i got twitter for/instagram I'll bag ya hoe')
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxL2au41cnk

Money Longer (prod. Don Cannon)
prob too obvious to mention but for those unconvinced of the grunge/pop punk influence the way he says "nowadays" in the hook is incontrovertible
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1eoSanFCU-M

Trunk Got Birdies (prod. Charlie Heat)
another song in the older style of 'Uzi'
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atUerTjkoIk

Ps and Qs (prod. Don Cannon)
the vocal harmony in the 'oooh, sing it, he ain't got no money' part of the hook is beautiful. the accordian sample is p funny but works
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0fFzqX_Xgo

Queso feat. Wiz Khalifa (prod. TM88)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGOlA87BcRA

Belly (prod. DJ Plugg & Bobby Kritikal)
this beat is like some ungodly mix of looney tunes sfx and musique concrète, i love it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMzOAKvmaLY

Wit My Crew x 1987 (prod. FKI)
love the beat on this, first half is cooler but the backing vocal + guitar sample that enters during the 'it is not nooormaaal' part of the hook of 1987 gives me chills
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qy-UwSofpwg

obvs a major part of his appeal is just that his tapes are laced with the finest Atlanta production and if someone dismissed him as a workable vessle for metro boomin & co i wouldn't take offence. but imo there's something there. also his fashion and persona are hilarious and great and totally add to his appeal for me ymmv

btw what is/was the 'soundcloud underground'? like what rappers or scenes are you talking about when u say that deej?

flopson, Thursday, 30 March 2017 15:03 (four months ago) Permalink

(tho you are the only critic I know who keeps insisting he's this generation's Big Bang)

would also like to read a longer defence of this (totally open to it just curious what the evidence is and i don't pay close-enough attention. certainly timeline-wise Finally Rich is at the same distance in the rear-view mirror as all the classic gucci tapes were in the Sunz of Mane era)

flopson, Thursday, 30 March 2017 15:08 (four months ago) Permalink

He does always manage to get a different kind of beat out of Metro and Zaytoven

neva missa lost, wednesday nights on abc (voodoo chili), Thursday, 30 March 2017 15:08 (four months ago) Permalink

but that SideLine Watching song is a straight Migos rip

neva missa lost, wednesday nights on abc (voodoo chili), Thursday, 30 March 2017 15:09 (four months ago) Permalink

hes like calvin peeing on a chevy logo mudflap

lmao, perfect

flopson, Thursday, 30 March 2017 15:10 (four months ago) Permalink

ya lol @ his migos flow on 'Sideline Watching'

flopson, Thursday, 30 March 2017 15:11 (four months ago) Permalink

Tropical "Ronda (Winners)" is one of my favorite Metro Boomin beats.

Handsome Bookor, Thursday, 30 March 2017 15:33 (four months ago) Permalink

1 that hasnt been mentioned -i really like 'enemies' off luv is rage

otherwise flopsons drop & commentary is otm

johnny crunch, Thursday, 30 March 2017 15:36 (four months ago) Permalink

1 that hasnt been mentioned -i really like 'enemies' off luv is rage

Some of the other hard songs on Luv is Rage—like "All my Chains" and "Safe House"—are also great

Handsome Bookor, Thursday, 30 March 2017 15:39 (four months ago) Permalink

btw what is/was the 'soundcloud underground'? like what rappers or scenes are you talking about when u say that deej?

― flopson, Thursday, March 30, 2017 10:03 AM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

uzi was this but also uno the activist, thouxanban fauni, pollari, young bans, d savage, lil peep, ppl like that

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Thursday, 30 March 2017 17:58 (four months ago) Permalink

that Keef is hugely important (tho you are the only critic I know who keeps insisting he's this generation's Big Bang)

you might say deej has a...big bang theory

blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 30 March 2017 18:23 (four months ago) Permalink

lil yachty was a soundcloud rapper too, it's uzi vert's biggest platform... but when you dig deeper you get to the stuff david is talking about

J0rdan S., Thursday, 30 March 2017 18:52 (four months ago) Permalink

cool thx. I kind of resisted yachty until late last year and still haven't listened to fauni or others. The only rappers i remember using soundcloud as a platform were, er, cloud rappers c. 2011. sc always seemed like breeding grounds for bedroom electronic producers (which would make sense as a home for clams casino and like Green Ova Underground) but didn't know about this new wave

flopson, Thursday, 30 March 2017 19:29 (four months ago) Permalink

post lil b there were tons of kids doing bedroom rap but post keef it seemed to draw some kids who were more interested in fame & created a framework for them to market themselves. yachty, playboi carti (whose first song was called "broke boi"), uzi vert are the biggest. And of course now xxxtentacion. 21 savage kind of has this cuz he was put on by Key! but obv also has a more mainline street rap appeal / the murder of bankroll fresh opened up a street rap lane in atlanta.

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Thursday, 30 March 2017 21:57 (four months ago) Permalink

(bankroll predated keef obv & actually inspired him more than the other way around)

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Thursday, 30 March 2017 21:58 (four months ago) Permalink

draw some kids who were more interested in fame

this might be the wrong description of the dynamic. but something happened? where something that would have been seen as absurdist marginal was now commercially viable

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Thursday, 30 March 2017 21:59 (four months ago) Permalink

you don't wanna hear this but--odd future

J0rdan S., Thursday, 30 March 2017 22:06 (four months ago) Permalink

Didn't they sort of predate Soundcloud as we know it?

neva missa lost, wednesday nights on abc (voodoo chili), Thursday, 30 March 2017 22:07 (four months ago) Permalink

yeah they were tumblr, and obv there's no sonic connection to the soundcloud types we're talking about, but in terms of turning cultish and outsidery music into something sustainable and viable, but also uncompromised, i think they're important

J0rdan S., Thursday, 30 March 2017 22:10 (four months ago) Permalink

also asap rocky, insofar as he showed how powerful being a fashionplate could be, and you see that in playboi carti and of course uzi vert

that tyler and rocky went on a big tour together last year is instructive here, there's a big crossover i would imagine w/ uzi vert's fanbsae

J0rdan S., Thursday, 30 March 2017 22:12 (four months ago) Permalink

Carti still has some affiliation with A$AP Mob. I like the Rocky/Uzi connection, as they're two Northeasterners obsessed with a) image and b) southern sounds

neva missa lost, wednesday nights on abc (voodoo chili), Thursday, 30 March 2017 22:16 (four months ago) Permalink

You misunderstand me--odd future did not cross over in the way yachty or uzi vert have.

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Thursday, 30 March 2017 22:21 (four months ago) Permalink

no of course not, but tyler has put every album of his in the billboard top 5, and earl had one too

J0rdan S., Thursday, 30 March 2017 23:53 (four months ago) Permalink

altho actually "yonkers" would have been a big crossover record if streaming was in the charts formula then so i don't buy that assertion exactly

J0rdan S., Thursday, 30 March 2017 23:56 (four months ago) Permalink

ehh i don't think it was a 'big crossover record' it went viral but not in the huge way 'gucci gucci' did ... like i remember comparing those two at one point when kreayshawn was at 30 mil and earl stalled out at like 3 mil like a year after it came out. that stuff was always super underground & im not convinced seeing it retconned into the uber-viral keef/kreay level

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Friday, 31 March 2017 00:53 (four months ago) Permalink

anyway i agree that odd future have had some influence esp in creating a touring/buzz cycle lane for rappers that exists outside of the streets/clubs/etc.

my point was more that keef was the focal point of where those worlds overlapped & was as influential w/ the underground as w/ the more "mainstream" esque dudes ... soundcloud rapper party i was at this weekend i heard 'faneto' but zero future or migos records, u see what i mean

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Friday, 31 March 2017 00:56 (four months ago) Permalink

That'll go well with Uzi's new parenting book "I Don't Really Care if You Cry"

neva missa lost, wednesday nights on abc (voodoo chili), Thursday, 6 April 2017 15:53 (four months ago) Permalink

four weeks pass...

this song is so good

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zgmvg-zzctI

flappy bird, Friday, 5 May 2017 22:28 (three months ago) Permalink

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40) at 7:53 30 Mar 17

ehh i don't think it was a 'big crossover record' it went viral but not in the huge way 'gucci gucci' did ... like i remember comparing those two at one point when kreayshawn was at 30 mil and earl stalled out at like 3 mil like a year after it came out. that stuff was always super underground & im not convinced seeing it retconned into the uber-viral keef/kreay level


oddfuture still has a fanbase and I don't get the sense that anyone cares about kreayshawn anymore

I got da Midas touch as you fucking were LG x (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 5 May 2017 22:33 (three months ago) Permalink

what's your point? I was arguing with jordan over whether or not odd future would have been huge streaming successes, not whether or not a one hit wonder could have a long term career doing the festival circuit

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Friday, 5 May 2017 23:04 (three months ago) Permalink

god this thread title is stupid

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Friday, 5 May 2017 23:05 (three months ago) Permalink

And if y'all was wondering why I say "Aye" after everything now, It's because my uncle keef used to say it B4 and after everything! R.I.P

— Glory Boy (@ChiefKeef) February 16, 2014

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Friday, 5 May 2017 23:05 (three months ago) Permalink

I was arguing with jordan over whether or not odd future would have been huge streaming successes

just for the record all i said was that tyler the creator's "yonkers" would have been a billboard hit if streaming was around then. it has 88 million youtube views, which is 30 million more than gucci gucci. i don't think it's really an arguable point. i remember hearing both of those beats on the radio at the time like when radio hosts would intro or outro a block of songs, but there wasn't quite an outside mechanism at the time to get the actual songs on the radio/into the greater consciousness

J0rdan S., Saturday, 6 May 2017 09:18 (three months ago) Permalink

Yeah but a lot of that is retroactive, Television or whatever marginal cbgbs band has lots of views now too but it doesn't mean those songs were hits either, those guys spent the next five years playing festivals of course their legend grew in that time

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Saturday, 6 May 2017 17:30 (three months ago) Permalink

http://www.billboard.com/articles/news/467245/21-under-21-tyler-the-creator-2011

25 million views for Yonkers in Sept. 2011 (7 months after its release)

passionate plant-based athlete (voodoo chili), Saturday, 6 May 2017 17:54 (three months ago) Permalink

So more than half a year of blanket press = half the views of Gucci Gucci, a gold selling single that went into the hot 100 without streams counting

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Saturday, 6 May 2017 20:06 (three months ago) Permalink

Right but the argument was whether Yonkers would have been a Hot 100 hit if streams counted and it's hard to say that it wouldn't have been, especially since it spent a lot of time on the bubbling under and heatseekers charts (whatever that means) without factoring in streams.

I agree that Odd Future was not as popular as the Yachty/Uzi crew, but rap in general is a lot more popular now than it was in 2011. Look at the numbers that XXXtentacion is doing these days--if he comes out in 2011, he's prob relegated to cult status instead of placing a song on the Hot 100 for weeks.

passionate plant-based athlete (voodoo chili), Saturday, 6 May 2017 21:51 (three months ago) Permalink

i agree w that, its kind of apples & oranges bc obviously OF is a product of their time. i do think that a full court blog press meant more then

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Saturday, 6 May 2017 22:23 (three months ago) Permalink

Xxxsensation sucks...., right?

flopson, Sunday, 7 May 2017 02:41 (three months ago) Permalink

(afraid to ask post-Lil Peep)

flopson, Sunday, 7 May 2017 02:41 (three months ago) Permalink

i dont really identify w it but all signs point to him being one of the biggest new stars of the year & having a strong enough personality to hang a wide range of sounds on a single 'aesthetic'—I think he's gonna end up being influential if being a bad dude cant derail his career (though I don't think it will cuz capitalism)

This song was hard to deny for me
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrDxS8yG8OE

I don't really buy into him personally but i wouldn't bet against him

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Friday, 12 May 2017 19:27 (three months ago) Permalink

( i think that song sucks because Diplo sucks but I guess it is more evidence of xxx's range )

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Friday, 12 May 2017 19:32 (three months ago) Permalink

yes this song is indeed very bad

meekseeks mill (voodoo chili), Friday, 12 May 2017 19:39 (three months ago) Permalink

wub wub wub wub

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Friday, 12 May 2017 19:49 (three months ago) Permalink

Huh that Slipknot song is not what I thought he sounded like, that track sound like a Black Moon song

Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 12 May 2017 20:01 (three months ago) Permalink

i understand xxx's appeal but i think i prefer guys like wifisfuneral and ski mask the slump god, his fellow south florida scensters who have that xxx-esque dark, violent, death-obsessed aesthetic with some actual bars and without the heinous crimes

meekseeks mill (voodoo chili), Friday, 12 May 2017 20:01 (three months ago) Permalink

Huh that Slipknot song is not what I thought he sounded like, that track sound like a Black Moon song

― Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, May 12, 2017 3:01 PM (two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

"not what i thought he sounded like" is like his whole release strategy

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Friday, 12 May 2017 20:05 (three months ago) Permalink

I'll take your word for it, I'd only heard that can't keep my dick in my pants song the mom listened to first, which has that really clipping in the red thing

Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 12 May 2017 21:18 (three months ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wh55mUvv788

I mean it's the reason ppl like him

Gamergirl Aria1 day ago
waitwaitwaitwaitwaitwait. You're telling me this is the dude that screamed, "can't keep my dick in my pants"?

At first I thought he was gonna be some trashy ass rapper that rapped about the same shit all the time. But damn, this is actually good.
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Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Sunday, 21 May 2017 03:10 (three months ago) Permalink

lol what does this sound like to you

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Sunday, 21 May 2017 03:11 (three months ago) Permalink

i understand xxx's appeal but i think i prefer guys like wifisfuneral and ski mask the slump god, his fellow south florida scensters who have that xxx-esque dark, violent, death-obsessed aesthetic with some actual bars and without the heinous crimes

― meekseeks mill (voodoo chili), Friday, May 12, 2017 3:01 PM (one week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

both those guys are boring to me

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Sunday, 21 May 2017 03:11 (three months ago) Permalink

four weeks pass...

So FM radio censors "dead" and "die" in XO Tour Life, what the shit is this?

black covfefe in bed (voodoo chili), Monday, 19 June 2017 15:16 (two months ago) Permalink

At least there's an FM radio station that actually plays Uzi wherever you live. So many of them in Vancouver wouldn't touch hip hop that isn't drake with a ten foot poll

josh az (2011nostalgia), Monday, 19 June 2017 15:33 (two months ago) Permalink

cancon

mh, Tuesday, 20 June 2017 00:22 (two months ago) Permalink


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