Lorde - Melodrama (2017)

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMK_npDG12Q

maura, Thursday, 2 March 2017 19:15 (four years ago) link

LORDE BACK

flopson, Thursday, 2 March 2017 19:26 (four years ago) link

there's a lot going on there

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Thursday, 2 March 2017 19:26 (four years ago) link

I like that it's not "Royals" redux, which would be the worst possible move. And I like it in and of itself.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 2 March 2017 19:36 (four years ago) link

I don't care, I love it, I don't care

ridiculously dope soul (unregistered), Thursday, 2 March 2017 19:41 (four years ago) link

This is basically what I wish Jamie XX's music sounded like.

ornate orchestral arrangements (DJP), Thursday, 2 March 2017 19:43 (four years ago) link

This is a jam.

how's life, Thursday, 2 March 2017 19:47 (four years ago) link

Interesting production. Melodically about as dull as it's possible to be

imago, Thursday, 2 March 2017 19:49 (four years ago) link

like your opinions then

j/k :* :)

blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 2 March 2017 20:04 (four years ago) link

Also, perfect album title.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 2 March 2017 20:11 (four years ago) link

I hope that this go-round I like more than half of the album.

ornate orchestral arrangements (DJP), Thursday, 2 March 2017 20:12 (four years ago) link

MeLorderama

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Thursday, 2 March 2017 20:15 (four years ago) link

co-written by lena dunham's boyfriend

change display name (Jordan), Thursday, 2 March 2017 20:23 (four years ago) link

Really? I usually don't care too much for his stuff.

how's life, Thursday, 2 March 2017 20:38 (four years ago) link

it takes a special kind of performer to almost ruin the energy of a track like that

call all destroyer, Thursday, 2 March 2017 21:00 (four years ago) link

I like this. Very catchy. She's a big fan of the processed hand-clap percussion though.

LimbsKing, Thursday, 2 March 2017 21:01 (four years ago) link

the housey piano is the best bit - ensuing chorus kinda ruins it

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Thursday, 2 March 2017 21:06 (four years ago) link

Phenomenal song. Disagree about her sucking the energy out of it; it's her droll/incensed/kinda bizarre vocal performance that sells it.

Evan R, Thursday, 2 March 2017 22:00 (four years ago) link

Sounds like it could be a "Hello"-sized smash to me. It's gonna sound incredible hearing this at bar close and on pop radio megamixes all summer long

Evan R, Thursday, 2 March 2017 22:01 (four years ago) link

Definitely has a lot of remix potential. It doesn't quite feel like the dance track I want it to be, but perhaps it's a grower.

Chantilly Bass, Thursday, 2 March 2017 22:31 (four years ago) link

I'm not wild about the production but it feels like it's going to be big regardless.

change display name (Jordan), Thursday, 2 March 2017 22:59 (four years ago) link

The chorus backing vocals make me think of Kate Bush, so I can't dislike this. Anyone else getting a Katy B vibe as far as direction?

Carlotta's Portrait (Ross), Friday, 3 March 2017 00:20 (four years ago) link

This isn't bad. I had planned to hate her for all eternity after that Tears for Fears cover.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Friday, 3 March 2017 00:38 (four years ago) link

Kate Bush is a good call - not in the way it sounds, but in the way she's maturing as an artist.

Not sure about this on first listen - there is so much going on - but think it may well grow on me.

Camaraderie at Arms Length, Friday, 3 March 2017 01:33 (four years ago) link

i like the parts w/the house piano

example (crüt), Friday, 3 March 2017 01:59 (four years ago) link

aka the good parts

call all destroyer, Friday, 3 March 2017 02:03 (four years ago) link

on second listen it's a total earworm

Van Horn Street, Friday, 3 March 2017 04:02 (four years ago) link

can't stand the video, that being said

Van Horn Street, Friday, 3 March 2017 04:03 (four years ago) link

I like the pre-chorus/chorus, but not so keen on the verses, which feel kind of disconnected to me.

MarkoP, Friday, 3 March 2017 04:07 (four years ago) link

Kate Bush is a good call

Visually as well.

It would/will be more obvious should she breaks out of 1st person relationship songs. As far as I know, Lorde's not an instrumentalist. I wonder what would be today's equivalent of a Fairlight to get in her hands?

Sanpaku, Friday, 3 March 2017 04:17 (four years ago) link

The backing vocals on the chorus sound so much like Niki & The Dove.

kitchen person, Friday, 3 March 2017 04:24 (four years ago) link

the last minute is the best part

clouds (peanutbuttereverysingleday), Friday, 3 March 2017 04:43 (four years ago) link

Pretty good song. Dull lyrics but the delivery's convincing. Suspenseful verses building up to a big, booming chorus, the sound of something exciting happening RIGHT NOW.

Kate Bush comparisons seem criminal.

predictable but decent I guess

a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Friday, 3 March 2017 07:57 (four years ago) link

'She thinks she loves the beach you're such a damn liar' ✓

I like this a lot, and think it's full of energy. She uses three or four different sounding vocals in this and I think it really works. Booming chorus.

Le Bateau Ivre, Friday, 3 March 2017 10:13 (four years ago) link

'She thinks you* love the beach etc'

Le Bateau Ivre, Friday, 3 March 2017 10:14 (four years ago) link

I want to like this but it just makes me want to listen to Miike Snow instead. Silvia specifically.

El Tomboto, Friday, 3 March 2017 11:35 (four years ago) link

the last minute is the best part

OTM, the detuned synth lead steals the whole song

El Tomboto, Friday, 3 March 2017 11:37 (four years ago) link

terrible single on first listen, no coherence between verse and bridge

her voice is not great on this, sounds like she's stretching for those low notes, no idea why they wouldn't just have transposed it, I'm certain she'll be far off key live (not bcz she's not a good singer but bcz the song is out of her register)

niels, Friday, 3 March 2017 12:23 (four years ago) link

I like this.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 3 March 2017 12:31 (four years ago) link

literally can't believe you're all handing out these props to that My First Chord Sequence chorus

an uptempo Pop/Hip Hop mentality (imago), Friday, 3 March 2017 12:39 (four years ago) link

are we really only demanding this of our pop

an uptempo Pop/Hip Hop mentality (imago), Friday, 3 March 2017 12:40 (four years ago) link

(the synth line at the end is decent I guess)

an uptempo Pop/Hip Hop mentality (imago), Friday, 3 March 2017 12:54 (four years ago) link

shut up

ornate orchestral arrangements (DJP), Friday, 3 March 2017 14:37 (four years ago) link

I love it when LJ starts talking about chord sequences and composition like he knows what he's talking about.

Matt DC, Friday, 3 March 2017 14:40 (four years ago) link

This does feel like it was written for the opening ceremony of a major sporting tournament in a city with no clear identity though.

Matt DC, Friday, 3 March 2017 14:41 (four years ago) link

yeah, it doesn't seem very... lordey to me

feels like a belting singer would have served the material better

niels, Friday, 3 March 2017 14:45 (four years ago) link

i don't dislike this but it sounds pretty generic for someone considered an Event Artist (the reasons for which are beyond me)

lex pretend, Friday, 3 March 2017 14:46 (four years ago) link

feels like a belting singer would have served the material better

― niels, Friday, March 3, 2017 9:45 AM (twenty-six minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

my guy

call all destroyer, Friday, 3 March 2017 15:13 (four years ago) link

1st person relationship songs

aka 95% of pop music in 2017

Wimmels, Friday, 3 March 2017 15:38 (four years ago) link

finally listened to this.
bit crap isn't it?

A viking of frowns, (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 14 June 2021 12:20 (one week ago) link

xp yeah vampire weekend's "harmony hall"

ufo, Monday, 14 June 2021 12:31 (one week ago) link

why has she stopped singing fairly well and adopted the annoying affectations of a thousand much worse singers?

A viking of frowns, (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 14 June 2021 12:39 (one week ago) link

finally watched/listened

it's nicely mixed I guess? her voice is really not suited to this sort of hook at all and the takeoff is completely botched

did not detect any politics whatsoever in the song or video tbh

intern at pelican brief consulting (Simon H.), Tuesday, 15 June 2021 18:34 (one week ago) link

Simon H, politics detector

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Tuesday, 15 June 2021 18:37 (one week ago) link

when she rejects the golden horn she's obviously eschewing the gold standard in favor of cryptocurrency

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Tuesday, 15 June 2021 18:47 (one week ago) link

no wonder she's also endorsing solar power

trap door to hell opens underneath (rob), Tuesday, 15 June 2021 18:54 (one week ago) link

i am curious why this hits some kind of must-hear tipping point that other pop stars dont. Whats with the lorde crossover that didnt happen w like idk ... selena gomez? To me the pop songs doja cat is putting out are much better and she's a much more engaging pop performer on other levels too.

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Tuesday, 15 June 2021 19:51 (one week ago) link

and its not like we DONT talk about that stuff. but this lorde song was like a 'broke the internet' type moment everyone was talking about and i dont really get it -- even prior to the song being underwhelming i dont get it

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Tuesday, 15 June 2021 19:52 (one week ago) link

i think part of it is that she just doesn't release music that often

the mai tai quinn (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 15 June 2021 19:53 (one week ago) link

Yeah, she's a major artist and it's been four years since her last thing.

like a d4mn sociopath! (morrisp), Tuesday, 15 June 2021 19:57 (one week ago) link

riding a wave of goodwill from the last one, New Jersey style

Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Tuesday, 15 June 2021 19:59 (one week ago) link

I also think it was designed to be Zeitgeist-y, and obv pulled it off.

like a d4mn sociopath! (morrisp), Tuesday, 15 June 2021 20:02 (one week ago) link

(despite being not-great)

like a d4mn sociopath! (morrisp), Tuesday, 15 June 2021 20:02 (one week ago) link

cover art playing into that as well

Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Tuesday, 15 June 2021 20:03 (one week ago) link

it's more than that, i get what deej is saying. she appeals to a... certain set of ppl who tweet a lot because she seems cool, approachable, like she could be friends w/ music writers, but is (or was at one point) also an A-list pop star. there is a perception of authenticity (both as a personality and musically) that drives enthusiasm about her w/in a certain discursive bubble. that authenticity used to be matched by the wider world circa "royals," but generally speaking on a global A list level the world has moved on but music writers in the rock critic lineage have hung on. it's funny for lorde to "break the internet" (music writer twitter) at the same time as ppl go thru another round of poptimist handwringing bcuz lorde is in essence a pop star who is flattered by attributes we associate w/ rockism. it's pretty easy to see

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 15 June 2021 20:11 (one week ago) link

lorde has established some sort of auteur pop cred (probably a little undeservingly she's not that interesting imo) & melodrama was generally really well-received critically and by online pop nerds even if it was a commercial flop

i thought her debut album was pretty bad, but there was the same level of excitement around melodrama and then it at least kind of delivered?

ufo, Tuesday, 15 June 2021 20:17 (one week ago) link

can we put "less engaging that Doja Cat" on the sticker for the eventual album

80's hair metal , and good praise music ! (DJP), Tuesday, 15 June 2021 20:24 (one week ago) link

You guys may v well be right (and are obv plugged into this stuff), tho I also don't think any random comeback single by her would have had the same "impact." There's something specific to this song and (yes) the cover art.

like a d4mn sociopath! (morrisp), Tuesday, 15 June 2021 20:27 (one week ago) link

It's a Whole Vibe™

like a d4mn sociopath! (morrisp), Tuesday, 15 June 2021 20:29 (one week ago) link

are you still talking about the cover art or

80's hair metal , and good praise music ! (DJP), Tuesday, 15 June 2021 20:30 (one week ago) link

I can tell you that my daughters (15 and 19) revere Lorde as a young auteur with integrity, in the pantheon with Mitski and Billie Eilish. They’ve been waiting for this return for 4 years and are deeply underwhelmed.

assert (matttkkkk), Tuesday, 15 June 2021 20:34 (one week ago) link

There's something specific to this song

i guess there's very much a feeling of wasted potential to it? that makes it a little more interesting to discuss than if it had just been a bland failure or something. or more of the same in a decent but uninteresting way

ufo, Tuesday, 15 June 2021 20:37 (one week ago) link

but... it is just a bland failure, the issue is because it's LORDE people are acting confused about her putting out a boring song as a single instead of burying it on the back half of the album

80's hair metal , and good praise music ! (DJP), Tuesday, 15 June 2021 20:38 (one week ago) link

xp I agree - we've certainly gotten a lot of mileage here out of discussing how it sort of reaches and fails, its relation to similar & more "successful" tracks, etc.

like a d4mn sociopath! (morrisp), Tuesday, 15 June 2021 21:07 (one week ago) link

Mitski rules

brimstead, Tuesday, 15 June 2021 21:33 (one week ago) link

"Stoned at the Nail Salon"

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Monday, 21 June 2021 18:42 (two days ago) link

"secrets from a girl (who's seen it all)"

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Monday, 21 June 2021 18:47 (two days ago) link

Wut

According to a press release, as an alternative to being released on CD, Solar Power will be available as “an eco-conscious Music Box,” which has visual content, handwritten notes, photos, and a download card. “I decided early on in the process of making this album that I also wanted to create an environmentally kind, forward-thinking alternative to the CD,” Lorde said in a statement. “I wanted this Music Box product to be similar in size, shape and price to a CD, to live alongside it in a retail environment, but be something which stands apart and that’s committed to the evolving nature of a modern album.”

search term: buttrock (morrisp), Monday, 21 June 2021 18:50 (two days ago) link

I mean I wouldn’t buy it anyway, but digital download sucks ass.

search term: buttrock (morrisp), Monday, 21 June 2021 18:51 (two days ago) link

the download card gives you a link to Mariah's Music Box instead

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Monday, 21 June 2021 18:53 (two days ago) link

theoretically i love this idea and would love for someone to do something interesting with it, but ultimately lol @ $22 for a box full of paper

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Monday, 21 June 2021 18:54 (two days ago) link

Sounds like what Biophilia Records has been doing for several years. (They send out CD-Rs as promos, though, which kinda subverts the point.)

but also fuck you (unperson), Monday, 21 June 2021 18:56 (two days ago) link

this isn't a bad idea honestly, j-pop and k-pop artists already incentivize their fans to buy their physical media by including collectible items, lorde is just taking it a step further by removing the physical media lol

is $22 a high price for what's essentially a scrapbook, sure, but it does price in the cost of the digital album as well.

the mai tai quinn (voodoo chili), Monday, 21 June 2021 19:03 (two days ago) link

tbh it has grown on me since i made fun of it

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Monday, 21 June 2021 19:06 (two days ago) link

When an artist big enough to still sell physical media decides only to sell MP3s, I fear it further normalizes/promotes the devaluing of audio quality. But sadly I may be fighting a losing battle there.

search term: buttrock (morrisp), Monday, 21 June 2021 19:07 (two days ago) link

making out you're ecologically friendly by selling and shipping any sort of physical media is charlatanry of a profound order lmao

imago, Monday, 21 June 2021 19:09 (two days ago) link

what if it's all made from bamboo

the mai tai quinn (voodoo chili), Monday, 21 June 2021 19:10 (two days ago) link

does this music box include the chapbook that dude from Animal Collective was supposed to make about his trip to Mali

an eco-conscious Music Box (DJP), Monday, 21 June 2021 19:10 (two days ago) link

It’s like when Richard D. James did an NFT thing a few months ago, and wrote about how he would maybe give some money to a tree-related charity, if he could find one, mumble mumble

search term: buttrock (morrisp), Monday, 21 June 2021 19:11 (two days ago) link

even if made from bamboo it needs to be distributed by bicycle courier or else it's bullshit

imago, Monday, 21 June 2021 19:12 (two days ago) link

or tie in 'solar power' and distribute them all by photovoltaic drone

imago, Monday, 21 June 2021 19:13 (two days ago) link

the fact lorde passed up THAT opportunity reveals herself as the creatively bankrupt dickhead we know her to be

imago, Monday, 21 June 2021 19:13 (two days ago) link

as mockable as the idea is, we're in "you're using an iPhone to text about climate change???" territory and we should avoid that tbh

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Monday, 21 June 2021 19:13 (two days ago) link

we're in 'she said she was doing it to be ecologically friendly, lol' territory tbf

imago, Monday, 21 June 2021 19:14 (two days ago) link

imago otm, she's selling a product not speaking out politically

trap door to hell opens underneath (rob), Monday, 21 June 2021 19:17 (two days ago) link

Melodrama's vinyl release lagged the digital release by almost a year... I couldn't be bothered with it by that point. That was pretty eco conscious of her.

maf you one two (maffew12), Monday, 21 June 2021 19:23 (two days ago) link

When an artist big enough to still sell physical media decides only to sell MP3s, I fear it further normalizes/promotes the devaluing of audio quality. But sadly I may be fighting a losing battle there.

Don't know what Lorde is doing but the Biophilia people sell downloads in the format of your choice. FLAC, WAV, whatever.

but also fuck you (unperson), Monday, 21 June 2021 19:42 (two days ago) link

it's all solar power, really. some of it just goes through inefficient processes that make the energy easier to store and transport, also releasing byproducts that increase the mean temperature of Earth and change the climate. So is she really even a hypocrite? think about it.

butyrate humbucker bobbins (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 21 June 2021 20:14 (two days ago) link

if they're actually handwritten notes, it's a good idea. just sell all your scrap paper.


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