Lorde - Melodrama (2017)

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMK_npDG12Q

maura, Thursday, 2 March 2017 19:15 (four years ago) link

LORDE BACK

flopson, Thursday, 2 March 2017 19:26 (four years ago) link

there's a lot going on there

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Thursday, 2 March 2017 19:26 (four years ago) link

I like that it's not "Royals" redux, which would be the worst possible move. And I like it in and of itself.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 2 March 2017 19:36 (four years ago) link

I don't care, I love it, I don't care

ridiculously dope soul (unregistered), Thursday, 2 March 2017 19:41 (four years ago) link

This is basically what I wish Jamie XX's music sounded like.

ornate orchestral arrangements (DJP), Thursday, 2 March 2017 19:43 (four years ago) link

This is a jam.

how's life, Thursday, 2 March 2017 19:47 (four years ago) link

Interesting production. Melodically about as dull as it's possible to be

imago, Thursday, 2 March 2017 19:49 (four years ago) link

like your opinions then

j/k :* :)

blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 2 March 2017 20:04 (four years ago) link

Also, perfect album title.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 2 March 2017 20:11 (four years ago) link

I hope that this go-round I like more than half of the album.

ornate orchestral arrangements (DJP), Thursday, 2 March 2017 20:12 (four years ago) link

MeLorderama

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Thursday, 2 March 2017 20:15 (four years ago) link

co-written by lena dunham's boyfriend

change display name (Jordan), Thursday, 2 March 2017 20:23 (four years ago) link

Really? I usually don't care too much for his stuff.

how's life, Thursday, 2 March 2017 20:38 (four years ago) link

it takes a special kind of performer to almost ruin the energy of a track like that

call all destroyer, Thursday, 2 March 2017 21:00 (four years ago) link

I like this. Very catchy. She's a big fan of the processed hand-clap percussion though.

LimbsKing, Thursday, 2 March 2017 21:01 (four years ago) link

the housey piano is the best bit - ensuing chorus kinda ruins it

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Thursday, 2 March 2017 21:06 (four years ago) link

Phenomenal song. Disagree about her sucking the energy out of it; it's her droll/incensed/kinda bizarre vocal performance that sells it.

Evan R, Thursday, 2 March 2017 22:00 (four years ago) link

Sounds like it could be a "Hello"-sized smash to me. It's gonna sound incredible hearing this at bar close and on pop radio megamixes all summer long

Evan R, Thursday, 2 March 2017 22:01 (four years ago) link

Definitely has a lot of remix potential. It doesn't quite feel like the dance track I want it to be, but perhaps it's a grower.

Chantilly Bass, Thursday, 2 March 2017 22:31 (four years ago) link

I'm not wild about the production but it feels like it's going to be big regardless.

change display name (Jordan), Thursday, 2 March 2017 22:59 (four years ago) link

The chorus backing vocals make me think of Kate Bush, so I can't dislike this. Anyone else getting a Katy B vibe as far as direction?

Carlotta's Portrait (Ross), Friday, 3 March 2017 00:20 (four years ago) link

This isn't bad. I had planned to hate her for all eternity after that Tears for Fears cover.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Friday, 3 March 2017 00:38 (four years ago) link

Kate Bush is a good call - not in the way it sounds, but in the way she's maturing as an artist.

Not sure about this on first listen - there is so much going on - but think it may well grow on me.

Camaraderie at Arms Length, Friday, 3 March 2017 01:33 (four years ago) link

i like the parts w/the house piano

example (crüt), Friday, 3 March 2017 01:59 (four years ago) link

aka the good parts

call all destroyer, Friday, 3 March 2017 02:03 (four years ago) link

on second listen it's a total earworm

Van Horn Street, Friday, 3 March 2017 04:02 (four years ago) link

can't stand the video, that being said

Van Horn Street, Friday, 3 March 2017 04:03 (four years ago) link

I like the pre-chorus/chorus, but not so keen on the verses, which feel kind of disconnected to me.

MarkoP, Friday, 3 March 2017 04:07 (four years ago) link

Kate Bush is a good call

Visually as well.

It would/will be more obvious should she breaks out of 1st person relationship songs. As far as I know, Lorde's not an instrumentalist. I wonder what would be today's equivalent of a Fairlight to get in her hands?

Sanpaku, Friday, 3 March 2017 04:17 (four years ago) link

The backing vocals on the chorus sound so much like Niki & The Dove.

kitchen person, Friday, 3 March 2017 04:24 (four years ago) link

the last minute is the best part

clouds (peanutbuttereverysingleday), Friday, 3 March 2017 04:43 (four years ago) link

Pretty good song. Dull lyrics but the delivery's convincing. Suspenseful verses building up to a big, booming chorus, the sound of something exciting happening RIGHT NOW.

Kate Bush comparisons seem criminal.

predictable but decent I guess

a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Friday, 3 March 2017 07:57 (four years ago) link

'She thinks she loves the beach you're such a damn liar' ✓

I like this a lot, and think it's full of energy. She uses three or four different sounding vocals in this and I think it really works. Booming chorus.

Le Bateau Ivre, Friday, 3 March 2017 10:13 (four years ago) link

'She thinks you* love the beach etc'

Le Bateau Ivre, Friday, 3 March 2017 10:14 (four years ago) link

I want to like this but it just makes me want to listen to Miike Snow instead. Silvia specifically.

El Tomboto, Friday, 3 March 2017 11:35 (four years ago) link

the last minute is the best part

OTM, the detuned synth lead steals the whole song

El Tomboto, Friday, 3 March 2017 11:37 (four years ago) link

terrible single on first listen, no coherence between verse and bridge

her voice is not great on this, sounds like she's stretching for those low notes, no idea why they wouldn't just have transposed it, I'm certain she'll be far off key live (not bcz she's not a good singer but bcz the song is out of her register)

niels, Friday, 3 March 2017 12:23 (four years ago) link

I like this.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 3 March 2017 12:31 (four years ago) link

literally can't believe you're all handing out these props to that My First Chord Sequence chorus

an uptempo Pop/Hip Hop mentality (imago), Friday, 3 March 2017 12:39 (four years ago) link

are we really only demanding this of our pop

an uptempo Pop/Hip Hop mentality (imago), Friday, 3 March 2017 12:40 (four years ago) link

(the synth line at the end is decent I guess)

an uptempo Pop/Hip Hop mentality (imago), Friday, 3 March 2017 12:54 (four years ago) link

shut up

ornate orchestral arrangements (DJP), Friday, 3 March 2017 14:37 (four years ago) link

I love it when LJ starts talking about chord sequences and composition like he knows what he's talking about.

Matt DC, Friday, 3 March 2017 14:40 (four years ago) link

This does feel like it was written for the opening ceremony of a major sporting tournament in a city with no clear identity though.

Matt DC, Friday, 3 March 2017 14:41 (four years ago) link

yeah, it doesn't seem very... lordey to me

feels like a belting singer would have served the material better

niels, Friday, 3 March 2017 14:45 (four years ago) link

i don't dislike this but it sounds pretty generic for someone considered an Event Artist (the reasons for which are beyond me)

lex pretend, Friday, 3 March 2017 14:46 (four years ago) link

feels like a belting singer would have served the material better

― niels, Friday, March 3, 2017 9:45 AM (twenty-six minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

my guy

call all destroyer, Friday, 3 March 2017 15:13 (four years ago) link

1st person relationship songs

aka 95% of pop music in 2017

Wimmels, Friday, 3 March 2017 15:38 (four years ago) link

i also wanna hear that hypothetical "mood ring" remix, it could certainly have been much more exciting, but i think it succeeds on its own terms as pleasantly chill background music, unlike "solar power" which ends up deciding it wants to be anthemic way too late leaving it feeling confused & anemic overall?

ufo, Wednesday, 18 August 2021 06:11 (one month ago) link

sounds like Antonoff (about whose working methods I knew not at all) is like Jimmy Iovine.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 18 August 2021 09:29 (one month ago) link

antonoff is a lot more hands-on than someone like iovine though, being heavily involved in the songwriting & performance on top of the technical expertise & general guidance that someone like iovine provides

ufo, Wednesday, 18 August 2021 09:40 (one month ago) link

When I hear these songs in department store five years from now, I wonder if it will it be Kohl's or Nordstrom Rack?

Lyrics to this one are pretty much Aja.

peace, man, Wednesday, 18 August 2021 13:41 (one month ago) link

Antonoff sounds a bit like Jeff Lynne.

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Wednesday, 18 August 2021 19:37 (one month ago) link

Not feeling any of the singles tbh. Don’t hate them either but there’s something missing for me. It’s frustrating because “mood ring” is actually dangerously close to hitting hard a soft spot for 90’s nostalgia but it misses the mark.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 19 August 2021 01:21 (one month ago) link

I actually really like this one.

And for what it’s worth, Unpretty is a great song.

triggercut, Thursday, 19 August 2021 13:52 (one month ago) link

it's all about the ease and comfort he allows for in the studio

I believe this is called "the hang," and I assume it's why a lot of busy producers get a lot of work from pop/rock stars. It's their personality as much as their particular skills. That said, the recent Tape Op interview with Antonoff was great, he's just a nice guy and a nerd that knows a lot about making music. He's no Iovine, who has a sort of tough-love bully reputation. Jeff Lynne might indeed be a good example: like Lynne, Antonoff productions neither rock nor rock the boat, but they serve their purposes and typically suit their stars.

Re: this new Lorde stuff specifically, I could have sworn I saw a (rightfully) defensive interview with her a couple of days ago where she stressed Antonoff did everything he could to aid her vision, and that everything on the record was the way it was because she wanted it that way and he helped her get there. Compare that to someone like, sure, Jam & Lewis, where they're more clearly the creative drivers, with others hitching their respective talents to the Jam & Lewis train.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 19 August 2021 14:10 (one month ago) link

I hear Unpretty but I also hear some Natalie Imbruglia… guitar pop from the late 90’s is definitely a frame of reference in that song.

Reviews are pouring in. They’re sort or mixed.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 19 August 2021 15:19 (one month ago) link

Lazy to do a copy paste of each but here’s the thread on the popheads subreddit with links:

https://www.reddit.com/r/popheads/comments/p7egt7/lorde_solar_power_album_reviews/

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 19 August 2021 15:19 (one month ago) link

amazing flex to hire matt chamberlain and barely use him

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Thursday, 19 August 2021 15:59 (one month ago) link

Hahaha same thought, just found out he was involved in this.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 19 August 2021 16:28 (one month ago) link

Lynne's a musician, though, an artist in his own right -- closer to Eno. Iovine like Rubin doesn't play instruments and is known for good ears.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 19 August 2021 16:34 (one month ago) link

but antonoff is a musician and an artist in his own right

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Thursday, 19 August 2021 16:45 (one month ago) link

I'm not comparing Lynne and Antonoff -- I compared him to Iovine and Rubin.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 19 August 2021 16:46 (one month ago) link

wait, Robyn does a corny spoken word cameo on this?

bon ivermectin (Murgatroid), Thursday, 19 August 2021 17:17 (one month ago) link

"fallen fruit" is pretty good imo

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Thursday, 19 August 2021 18:51 (one month ago) link

Dancing with my girls, only having two drinks, then leaving
It's a funny thing, never thought you’d gain self control

i still find the lyrical position of this album like super obnoxious

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Thursday, 19 August 2021 18:53 (one month ago) link

"the path" and "solar power" resemble each other so much that it's like the album begins twice. "california" and "stoned" are the worst two songs on the record for me, the latter's "i've got nothing to say, and that's ok" attitude reflects poorly on the project

i also keep longing for any kind of textural variation in this record to give me a sense of, idk, flow, instead of what it does, which is mostly sunbathe in one spot. i even like some of the songs that are so soft they're on the verge of disappearance, "man with the axe" especially, but it's part of a suite of songs that are all super quiet and yearning

"mood ring" is actually a highlight in that context in that it suddenly reminds me of, oh yeah, nelly furtado's folklore, which i appreciate being reminded of. "oceanic feeling" strikes me as what more of this record should've sounded like, but even that's only remarkable for how loose the song structure is, getting sort of dubby and ambient at the end, but even this is like not really quite enough for me. i feel like if it just... stretched out a little further... it could almost do a john martyn "small hours" thing, but it doesn't. maybe that's the wrong angle to regard this album from, but idk, it's also stoned beach music

idk why i felt the need to weigh in on this record other than i felt like a hater and didn't want to be an uninformed hater

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Thursday, 19 August 2021 19:21 (one month ago) link

i still find the lyrical position of this album like super obnoxious

― STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson)

It's a flyspeck, but the POV shift in these lines annoys me.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 19 August 2021 19:23 (one month ago) link

there are a few good ideas on here but it's way too mellow overall and i wish it actually did anything with those ideas

ufo, Friday, 20 August 2021 03:52 (one month ago) link

like if the whole album had gone in on the balearic ambience of "oceanic feeling" instead of mostly forgettable very mellow 70s folk stuff it could have been great

ufo, Friday, 20 August 2021 03:58 (one month ago) link

Listening to the album now for the second time and while there are no particular stand out tracks (so far), it's got a pleasant vibe imo.

AlXTC from Paris, Friday, 20 August 2021 12:28 (one month ago) link

I had the weird comparison pop into my head that Lorde’s music career is hitting half of the plot beats from Mean Girls (“outsider” shows up, gets elevated to popularity, sheds the things that made them interesting in the first place and turns into the new iteration of the popular) and I can’t stop thinking about it

Yes it’s a stretch and falls apart on closer look, I know this already but I can’t stop giggling about the surface comparison

a gentle push against my Wonder Bread face (DJP), Friday, 20 August 2021 13:36 (one month ago) link

Are we sure she’s not being ironic with this? Solar Power seemed super-sarcastic to me.

DJI, Friday, 20 August 2021 14:37 (one month ago) link

she went out of her way to describe "mood ring" as satire

a lot of reviews are like "satire that resembles the real thing isn't satire," which is extremely untrue, but imo the writing isn't strong enough to make the satire function anyway

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Friday, 20 August 2021 14:40 (one month ago) link

She's often hard to read, and while I often blame myself Lorde proves the exception. "Royals" still confounds me.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 20 August 2021 14:44 (one month ago) link

also the satire just sort of stops at "haha isn't this woo-woo new age healer ridiculous and caught in some kind of grief cycle that they're using nonsense to cope with." knowing that lorde is doing this doesn't improve the song for me and instead cuts off any emotional connection i could have with it xp

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Friday, 20 August 2021 14:44 (one month ago) link

Brad OTM; it doesn't really matter if it's satire if it's also bad

a gentle push against my Wonder Bread face (DJP), Friday, 20 August 2021 14:53 (one month ago) link

I guess that’s true in terms of issuing a verdict on the album, I’m not postmodern enough to think it doesn’t matter at all.

DJI, Friday, 20 August 2021 14:55 (one month ago) link

a lot of reviews are like "satire that resembles the real thing isn't satire," which is extremely untrue, but imo the writing isn't strong enough to make the satire function anyway

i think it's more that she doesn't feel distant enough from what she's satirising in the first place, like her public persona is already hippie-ish enough that it'd be easy to believe she was getting super into new age wellness nonsense for real?

ufo, Friday, 20 August 2021 21:39 (one month ago) link

so y'all are saying it would be better if she leaned into it and was earnest about this goopery

bon ivermectin (Murgatroid), Friday, 20 August 2021 21:42 (one month ago) link

absolutely not

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Friday, 20 August 2021 22:00 (one month ago) link

Even if it’s ironic, going after instragramming goopers seems lazy. The world is a target-rich environment for satire and disdain, many of whom are way worse than hot girls.

DJI, Friday, 20 August 2021 23:01 (one month ago) link

Pandemic pop has really sucked.

piscesx, Friday, 20 August 2021 23:06 (one month ago) link

my daughter reckons it's a fake-out and she's going to drop something deep and dark soon

assert (matttkkkk), Friday, 20 August 2021 23:18 (one month ago) link

glad the kids are keeping the secret second album conspiracies going

ufo, Friday, 20 August 2021 23:23 (one month ago) link

Even if it’s ironic, going after instagramming goopers seems lazy. The world is a target-rich environment for satire and disdain, many of whom are way worse than hot girls.

Yeah, she's satirizing something that really doesn't need satirizing, and doing it in a way that feels both heavy-handed and inadequate (she says it's an indictment of white people co-opting indigenous traditions, but the song barely touches on that.) I feel like this is Lorde's "57 Channels and Nothin' On." Like, oh no, I'm a rich person living in a bubble and I can't think of anything to write about, so here, let me "satirize" a bunch of tired pop culture shit that everyone already knows is dumb.

Also I keep getting stuck on the fact that mood rings are children's toys; is there some expensive Goop version of a mood ring that I don't know about?

Lily Dale, Friday, 20 August 2021 23:49 (one month ago) link

What's confusing is that "Mood Ring" was clearly satirical, but the earlier two songs (which had the same sound/vibe/theme) didn't seem to be? Idk - I haven't listened to the rest of the album and probably won't.

Shallot Shortage 2021 (morrisp), Friday, 20 August 2021 23:54 (one month ago) link

there was an element of it to "solar power", just not as directly

ufo, Friday, 20 August 2021 23:58 (one month ago) link

oh no, I'm a rich person living in a bubble and I can't think of anything to write about

This is half of pop music now.

but also fuck you (unperson), Saturday, 21 August 2021 02:26 (one month ago) link

that's not really anything new either

ufo, Saturday, 21 August 2021 03:10 (one month ago) link

there was an element of it to "solar power", just not as directly

― ufo, Friday, 20 August 2021 23:58 (yesterday) link

idk she intro’d it with… ‘There’s someone I want you to meet.
Her feet are bare at all times. She’s sexy, playful, feral, and free. She’s a modern girl in a deadstock bikini, in touch with her past and her future, vibrating at the highest level when summer comes around. Her skin is glowing, her lovers are many. I’m completely obsessed with her, and soon you will be too.
‘

just sayin, Saturday, 21 August 2021 07:08 (one month ago) link

yeah that just goes to show how muddled it is lol

the stuff that read to me that way in "solar power" was "i'm kinda like a prettier jesus" and the whole video

ufo, Saturday, 21 August 2021 07:15 (one month ago) link

I thought the “prettier Jesus” thing was her paying tribute to a fan meme

Shallot Shortage 2021 (morrisp), Saturday, 21 August 2021 14:18 (one month ago) link

just made my own Solar Power sequence:

Leader of a New Regime
The Path
Solar Power
Secrets from a Girl (Who's Seen It All)
California
Mood Ring
Fallen Fruit
Dominoes
Big Star
Stoned at the Nail Salon
The Man With The Axe
Oceanic Feeling

winters (josh), Saturday, 28 August 2021 04:12 (one month ago) link

actually, I'd probably make "Stoned" a hidden track at the end of "Oceanic Feeling"

winters (josh), Saturday, 28 August 2021 04:22 (one month ago) link

New EP in... maori !

AlXTC from Paris, Thursday, 9 September 2021 13:17 (two weeks ago) link

Indeed, and this article about it is a must read

https://thespinoff.co.nz/atea/09-09-2021/lorde-interview-maori-lyrics-solar-power/

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 9 September 2021 19:10 (two weeks ago) link

and this one - https://www.thebigidea.nz/stories/tokenism-in-full-force-my-take-on-lordes-album

just sayin, Saturday, 11 September 2021 03:11 (two weeks ago) link


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