UK afro - thread for discussing MoStack, J-Hus, Kojo Funds, Abra Cadabra, Belly Squad, Yxng Bane etc

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Kojo Funds & Abra Cadabra - Dun Talkin
MoStack - Block Popping
Belly Squad - Banana Remix
Yxng Bane ft. Kojo Funds - Fine Wine
MoStack ft. J Hus - Paranoid

I've been caning all these virtually daily for the last month or so, although most of them slipped out at the tail end of last year. Still, something's going on here, right?

I don't know much about most of these guys or how they fit in, but this seems to mark the tipping point where what's been going on in Ghana and Nigeria really filters through to wider UK rap (despite it being nearly two years since Dem Boy Paigon there's something of a purple patch going on right now). But it also feels distinct from other UK artists like Kwamz & Flava or Mazi Chukz in that they feel defineably London and aimed first and foremost at a UK audience. Way more screwfacy than that, but distinct from grime, like you get the sense that most of these guys would have been making standard road rap until recently and there's a load of that DNA in this sound as well. Anyway, where do I hear more of this?

Matt DC, Wednesday, 8 February 2017 19:24 (one year ago) Permalink

j hus - dem boy paigon

flopson, Wednesday, 8 February 2017 19:31 (one year ago) Permalink

I'm all for this thread. Dun Talking is dope.

human and working on getting beer (longneck), Wednesday, 8 February 2017 19:46 (one year ago) Permalink

Might be my imagination but reasonably reliable bellweathers like Mista Silva and Sneakbo seem to got a bit more aggro of late as well.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 8 February 2017 19:57 (one year ago) Permalink

Can we put this one in here? It's not very aggro but I like it.

Dave x J Hus - Samantha
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOslx4hKwZk

human and working on getting beer (longneck), Wednesday, 8 February 2017 20:01 (one year ago) Permalink

J Hus' 2017 wasn't quite on par with his 2016 but Friendly was really good:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kaO_ZLIeo7M

human and working on getting beer (longneck), Wednesday, 8 February 2017 20:10 (one year ago) Permalink

ehhhh 2016/2015 i mean

human and working on getting beer (longneck), Wednesday, 8 February 2017 20:10 (one year ago) Permalink

Yeah I think we might have got to this point sooner had Hus not been, er, unavoidably detained for a chunk of last year.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 8 February 2017 20:27 (one year ago) Permalink

top choices in the op missing addison lee, big tobz' controlla, my 9ine, and robbery

suggest bannon (||||||||), Wednesday, 8 February 2017 20:42 (one year ago) Permalink

spotify's bash caviar pl an essential follow
https://open.spotify.com/user/spotify_uk_/playlist/4JPqkl1ShCzpRsexBvmGiK

suggest bannon (||||||||), Wednesday, 8 February 2017 20:43 (one year ago) Permalink

I loved Dem Boy Paigon when it came out. Looking forward to delving into this thread.

Lennon, Elvis, Hendrix etc (dog latin), Thursday, 9 February 2017 08:39 (one year ago) Permalink

Can't find any links for LottoBoyzz' No Don outside of Spotify so I'll just say it's the jam and drop this in here:
spotify:album:7oLMlGAfUk3LYnel7DoWx8

human and working on getting beer (longneck), Thursday, 9 February 2017 13:27 (one year ago) Permalink

new mostack produced by ill blu

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJCjLCL9tuo

lex pretend, Friday, 10 February 2017 11:41 (one year ago) Permalink

"Dun Talking" is pretty huge, love it

lex pretend, Friday, 10 February 2017 11:42 (one year ago) Permalink

Iray Mvmt seem key to this scene

https://soundcloud.com/iraymvmt

lex pretend, Friday, 10 February 2017 11:43 (one year ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

Abra Cadabra ft. Kush "Valentine"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xocvMWFSgwg

breastcrawl, Saturday, 25 February 2017 16:33 (one year ago) Permalink

J hus - did you see
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rk6_Ax0mQo

||||||||, Thursday, 2 March 2017 22:34 (one year ago) Permalink

you'd never know this instrumental was a massive pop song, it fits right in w yxng bane's whole sound

wish he had ditched the ed sheeran chorus all together tbh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMUfg75kZwk

oiocha, Tuesday, 7 March 2017 09:08 (one year ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04hINwP5Ywg

paolo, Wednesday, 15 March 2017 20:50 (one year ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tcOMKFsLts

||||||||, Thursday, 16 March 2017 07:27 (one year ago) Permalink

Kojo Funds 'Warning' is completely shameless, in a "are you really doing this? Oh my fucking god you made it the whole verse" kind of way. I actually have the admire the chutzpah of it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJetWqwVVfA

Matt DC, Thursday, 16 March 2017 10:06 (one year ago) Permalink

chorus of the year
https://youtu.be/CvtxRv38Ep4

||||||||, Thursday, 16 March 2017 11:38 (one year ago) Permalink

Morbidly intrigued by what I'm going to hear when I click on that Keef link.

Matt DC, Thursday, 16 March 2017 11:45 (one year ago) Permalink

kojo has previous for interpolation w my nines obv

||||||||, Thursday, 16 March 2017 12:18 (one year ago) Permalink

the arabic connection

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmzGYzlyH6M

lex pretend, Thursday, 16 March 2017 12:24 (one year ago) Permalink

(geko's...mixtape? album? lionheart is pretty solid)

lex pretend, Thursday, 16 March 2017 12:25 (one year ago) Permalink

like this too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwWRa7jMr_4

lex pretend, Thursday, 16 March 2017 12:34 (one year ago) Permalink

"you alright yh?" is amazing

lex pretend, Thursday, 16 March 2017 12:41 (one year ago) Permalink

Morbidly intrigued by what I'm going to hear when I click on that Keef link.

― Matt DC, Thursday, March 16, 2017 6:45 AM (seven hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

You should check it out, I think it's probably being under acknowledged in the Afro "trap" genre how much of the influence came from Chicago anyway, if u look at YouTube stats for who was watching keef videos New York & London were two of his biggest audiences

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Thursday, 16 March 2017 19:40 (one year ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LwtpuoR9r7Q

paolo, Thursday, 16 March 2017 20:44 (one year ago) Permalink

I enjoyed that more than any other Keef I've bothered to listen to, which admittedly isn't a huge amount. But yeah road rap has been channeling drill for years and UK drill is mostly boring, but all this is a further mutation from that and it's the afro element that really makes this stuff bounce.

Matt DC, Thursday, 16 March 2017 22:33 (one year ago) Permalink

Dun D ft. Sneakbo & Kojo Funds - Badman Rmx:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04hINwP5Ywg

Like there's obviously some Chicago in the mix but that's not what makes it exciting, and the rhythmic blueprint is completely different.

Matt DC, Thursday, 16 March 2017 22:47 (one year ago) Permalink

i agree! that keef track is picking up on the same influences (afrobeats) IMO

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Thursday, 16 March 2017 23:36 (one year ago) Permalink

whats interesting to me is how they're both coming to nearly identical conclusions, like you could mix those tracks together & no one would blink (well...they're not in the right key so it wouldn't be completely effortless but im sure there are plenty of examples where that would work)

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Thursday, 16 March 2017 23:37 (one year ago) Permalink

HUSKIES

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-Wfiz4x2XU

lex pretend, Friday, 24 March 2017 13:00 (one year ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=taQzjWkHJjY

paolo, Saturday, 25 March 2017 09:14 (one year ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZ_83nx3xAE

New Kojo

paolo, Sunday, 2 April 2017 22:31 (one year ago) Permalink

So apparently Wizkid AND Ty Dolla are going to remix this. It's a banger already though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QffQJ5m226U

Yung Fume - Watch Me Flex

human and working on getting beer (longneck), Tuesday, 4 April 2017 20:59 (one year ago) Permalink

Btw, deej is correct about the strong Chicago connection. The go-to dj, Kenny Allstar, who has his own show on Radar Radio, is a huge drill fan.

human and working on getting beer (longneck), Tuesday, 4 April 2017 21:01 (one year ago) Permalink

J Hus album out next month!

paolo, Saturday, 8 April 2017 10:02 (one year ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AABcDQOE5h0

I don't know what Ussy Ussy means :(

paolo, Friday, 5 May 2017 16:45 (eleven months ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

^ really digging ill blu's second act as producer of all these sick mostack songs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tfvTSfnLK8

oiocha, Sunday, 21 May 2017 02:00 (eleven months ago) Permalink

one month passes...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YaLkgoWXrrQ

Not heard much in this scene that's grabbed my attention recently but this one's good

paolo, Wednesday, 21 June 2017 15:51 (ten months ago) Permalink

one month passes...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pq1mUEhKQfc

Is anyone making this type of music outside of That London apart from Lotto Boyzz? Is it big with the youngsters anywhere else in the UK? I'm in Scotland so I don't have a clue what's big with the kids in England

paolo, Sunday, 20 August 2017 13:27 (eight months ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgCb6Fg56YA

Don't think this has been posted but it's one of my faves

paolo, Sunday, 20 August 2017 13:29 (eight months ago) Permalink

Maybe there's a burgeoning scene in Birmingham as well? Suspects it probably mirrors wider diasporic movement to some extent.

Given that Mostack went Top 20 with a mixtape and 'Bestie' is getting serious daytime Radio 1 play, I'm guessing that a few of these guys are going to be massive. Gonna go out on a limb and suggest it'll throw up a rapper with genuine international appeal as well, something that grime has never really managed.

Matt DC, Sunday, 20 August 2017 14:55 (eight months ago) Permalink

Isn't j hus already this? French Montana is remixing "do you see" lol

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Sunday, 20 August 2017 18:56 (eight months ago) Permalink

I know that J Hus has been in the charts but I didn't know that Mostack had as well, so good for him. These guys are getting a lot of views on YouTube as well (more than most grime MCs). I'm assuming these are almost all coming from people in the UK

J Hus would have to be the guy most likely to be an international success at this point but if a grime artist can't do it then I don't see why he would. Hope I'm wrong though

paolo, Monday, 21 August 2017 11:39 (eight months ago) Permalink

Because grime sounds antithetical to popular American music but afrobeats codes generally to the American mainstream as dancehall-adjacent and this stuff is basically afrobeats

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Monday, 21 August 2017 18:35 (eight months ago) Permalink

When I said "international" I didn't actually mean "American" but lol whatever. Guessing a lot of these guys could before too long head out to Nigeria or Ghana and start playing to big crowds. But the accents and slang are going to sound a lot less weird to a US market that's used to hearing Wizkid pop up all over the place. Additionally, attempts to fuse grime with other international rap genres have always been incredibly clunky but the barriers here are more porous, these guys could collaborate more freely while still making it sound natural.

Matt DC, Monday, 21 August 2017 18:48 (eight months ago) Permalink

Imagine Young Thug collaborating with Kojo and then imagine him working with Skepta and tell me which one sounds more likely to work.

Matt DC, Monday, 21 August 2017 18:50 (eight months ago) Permalink

four weeks pass...

I've no idea what's going on with US rap music tbh but yeah OK I guess it's closer to this stuff than grime

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ruitsqQ34c

Yxng Bane does it again

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkwdrQVd4fs

Donae'o has a go at afro bashment. Turns out he's quite good at it

paolo, Tuesday, 19 September 2017 19:29 (seven months ago) Permalink

two months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l54_B0h_SAk

I'd like to hear more tracks that have a sort of moody downbeat vibe like this and Did You See, Rihanna etc. Having said that...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lab6OuaspuA

What a skanker! Making me feel all summery even though it's a chilly winter's night

paolo, Thursday, 30 November 2017 19:33 (four months ago) Permalink

Also Yxng Bane and Not3s are up for the BBC Sound of 2018

(Yxng Bane >>> Not3s btw)

paolo, Thursday, 30 November 2017 19:36 (four months ago) Permalink

For those compiling your year-end lists, this playlist includes all the available tracks on this thread, organized roughly chronologically in order of mention:

ILM's 2017 Rolling Afrotrap Thread Spotify Playlist

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Thursday, 30 November 2017 21:38 (four months ago) Permalink

one month passes...

Do you really call this stuff afro trap? I thought it's 'Afro-Swing' rather?

http://thelinkup.com/what-is-afro-swing-and-has-it-taken-over-uk-afrobeats/

ahomka ginger, Saturday, 13 January 2018 00:40 (three months ago) Permalink

In all honesty I thought Afro Trap was coined by French rapper MHD. He has made quite a few tracks with that name:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zi1D0MKWHU0

Frederik B, Saturday, 13 January 2018 00:47 (three months ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1YKFV45M18

Windsor Davies, Saturday, 13 January 2018 00:50 (three months ago) Permalink

I thought people were calling it afro bashment. Afro swing doesn't sound right to me for reasons I'm unsure of

paolo, Sunday, 14 January 2018 11:55 (three months ago) Permalink

Some say bashment, some say swing. Afro B has attempted to brand it afrowave. Some call it other things. The afro part is the only constant.

human and working on getting beer (longneck), Sunday, 14 January 2018 15:17 (three months ago) Permalink

I think Afro Swing was coined by Kojo Funds and his producer GA. But yeah, other people seem to talk about Afro Bashment. Some might call it UK Afrobeats (like the article below) but doesn't seem right to me.

Afro Trap to me is the sound that MHD is doing in France. The UK sound is quite different

http://mixmag.net/feature/uk-afrobeats-the-new-sound-reinventing-british-club-music

ahomka ginger, Sunday, 14 January 2018 16:05 (three months ago) Permalink

No one calls it afrotrap, it just seemed to make sense at the time. Afro bashment is a terrible name as well but what do you expect if people will outsource everything to the Spotify brand consultancy. I've just taken to saying UK afro.

Matt DC, Sunday, 14 January 2018 16:06 (three months ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJTtiYMdMtk

I don't really get the hype about Not3s but this one's big. All about Mabel though

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7-z1XKK3BU

The beat on this one is wavey as. Was not aware that One Acen was a producer

paolo, Friday, 2 February 2018 19:58 (two months ago) Permalink

Loving the One Acen! “Fine Line” is nice too.

breastcrawl, Saturday, 3 February 2018 11:55 (two months ago) Permalink

vice versa beat is sick, similar video game vibe as this mist one (great video too). you can tell all these producers grew up on the playstation 2 lol.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihYWpi77csY

speaking of beats the hook and beat on this one is a monster

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJ43RbCtgIw

also can't believe octavian hasn't been mentioned here, this one got the drake cosign and everything. his delivery and voice is stunning, stopped me in my tracks the first time i heard it. hoping he goes far cause this is something else.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dz7eyvAMOpA

oiocha, Wednesday, 14 February 2018 20:09 (two months ago) Permalink

not sure if this is the thread for it but the French-speaking world also has its own strain of afro-trap.

Kalash ft. Damso 'Mwaka Moon' is really popular in France I believe:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPnMFUsKm8w

and speaking of Damso, a Congolese artist, his solo stuff is great too:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGhKPm18E48

Badgers (dog latin), Friday, 16 February 2018 15:47 (two months ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53T7iwn1nbw

xp yeah Octavian's good. He's one of those guys who's sort of on the borderline between rap and Afrobashment

paolo, Saturday, 17 February 2018 17:43 (two months ago) Permalink


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