RIP Jaki Liebezeit

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ffffffffffuuuuuuuuuck

the greg evigan school of improvised explosive devices (bizarro gazzara), Sunday, 22 January 2017 21:14 (seven years ago) link

rip my favourite drummer ever

the greg evigan school of improvised explosive devices (bizarro gazzara), Sunday, 22 January 2017 21:14 (seven years ago) link

what a drummer he was, RIP Jaki.

calzino, Sunday, 22 January 2017 21:23 (seven years ago) link

Gahhhhh

(Who's the source?)

Le Bateau Ivre, Sunday, 22 January 2017 21:24 (seven years ago) link

oh jeez, RIP

sleeve, Sunday, 22 January 2017 21:24 (seven years ago) link

Say it ain't so. Waiting for definitive confirmation.

Eats like Elvis, shits like De Niro (Tom D.), Sunday, 22 January 2017 21:25 (seven years ago) link

Still "is" on Wikipedia

Mark G, Sunday, 22 January 2017 21:26 (seven years ago) link

:(

jaki was absolutely amazing. one of my favorite drummers.

RIP

Karl Malone, Sunday, 22 January 2017 21:27 (seven years ago) link

hoping its not true but dont see why anybody would create a hoax

Cosmic Slop, Sunday, 22 January 2017 21:27 (seven years ago) link

Glad I did at least get to see him play live. Shame it wasn't a full blown Can gig though do have footage of tehm.

Went to the Dublin night of various ex-Can members playing solo stuff.

& do love him on the Can material. May have to bung on the Waldbeuhne thing from '72 now

Stevolende, Sunday, 22 January 2017 21:29 (seven years ago) link

RIP

In Walked Bodhisattva (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 22 January 2017 21:30 (seven years ago) link

I'll wait until there's more concrete news on this from a reliable source.

Working night & day, I tried to stay awake... (Turrican), Sunday, 22 January 2017 21:38 (seven years ago) link

the link came from a reliable source

Cosmic Slop, Sunday, 22 January 2017 21:40 (seven years ago) link

damn he was incredible. RIP

wins, Sunday, 22 January 2017 21:49 (seven years ago) link

No.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 22 January 2017 21:50 (seven years ago) link

That sucks.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 22 January 2017 21:50 (seven years ago) link

RIP you funky human drum machine

An Alan Bennett Joint (Michael B), Sunday, 22 January 2017 21:52 (seven years ago) link

Still holding out hope this isn't true until confirmed. Until then listen to Jaki + Holger in full effect:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHdSY391tIc

Eats like Elvis, shits like De Niro (Tom D.), Sunday, 22 January 2017 21:57 (seven years ago) link

RIP

the late great, Sunday, 22 January 2017 22:10 (seven years ago) link

Still no other source?

Mark G, Sunday, 22 January 2017 22:10 (seven years ago) link

RIP, what an absolute legend.

I had the opportunity to chat with him after a show 12 years ago in a very faraway land and he was very kind and gracious.

I listen to Vitamin C at least once a week and every single time I'm constantly amazed by everything Jaki is doing throughout that entire track.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Sunday, 22 January 2017 22:14 (seven years ago) link

... listening to it right now!

Eats like Elvis, shits like De Niro (Tom D.), Sunday, 22 January 2017 22:15 (seven years ago) link

xxpost:

Not as far as I can see.

Working night & day, I tried to stay awake... (Turrican), Sunday, 22 January 2017 22:15 (seven years ago) link

This source is rather vague.

Carla Diratz Raji do you have any details of what happened please...?
1 · 10 mins
Raji Susimé Carla Diratz no, not yet, it will take a while.
2 · 7 mins

jmm, Sunday, 22 January 2017 22:18 (seven years ago) link

well, according to wikipedia just now

Born 26 May 1938 (age 78)
Dresden, Germany
Died 22 January 2017 (aged Expression error: Unexpected < operator–Expression error: Unrecognized punctuation character "{".Expression error: Unrecognized punctuation character "{".)Expression error: Unexpected > operator
Genres Krautrock, electronic, European free jazz

wins, Sunday, 22 January 2017 22:29 (seven years ago) link

well this sucks

NickB, Sunday, 22 January 2017 22:30 (seven years ago) link

Confirmed

https://www.facebook.com/officialCan

jmm, Sunday, 22 January 2017 22:35 (seven years ago) link

only saw him once about a dozen years ago with jah wobble's solaris ensemble - jaki, jah, harold budd, bill laswell, graham haynes. jaki was the reason we went and the real star of this show. a man who could bend time at will, always assumed he would thus never die

NickB, Sunday, 22 January 2017 22:37 (seven years ago) link

Saw him play last year. Shook his hand. RIP Jaki, a master musician.

Eats like Elvis, shits like De Niro (Tom D.), Sunday, 22 January 2017 22:39 (seven years ago) link

the best !
i love to play cannibalism ii just to hear him across the eras, doing a thousand different things
rip

schlump, Sunday, 22 January 2017 22:45 (seven years ago) link

RIP :(

Working night & day, I tried to stay awake... (Turrican), Sunday, 22 January 2017 22:45 (seven years ago) link

Rest of the band seem a bit tentative and nervy at first, but not Jaki, he just steamrollers along all but drowning everyone else eventually!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QLL2j8ZtxE

Eats like Elvis, shits like De Niro (Tom D.), Sunday, 22 January 2017 22:46 (seven years ago) link

Looking dashing from some 90s SPIN, one of my first non black/white low-res, pre-internet glimpses at the CAN:
http://i.imgur.com/T9h3ioq.jpg

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Sunday, 22 January 2017 23:03 (seven years ago) link

RIP, a true legend. I listen and hear music differently (and better) because of Jake Liebezeit

Dominique, Sunday, 22 January 2017 23:38 (seven years ago) link

RIP

Went to the Dublin night of various ex-Can members playing solo stuff.

― Stevolende, Sunday, 22 January 2017 21:29 (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

1999 or so? I was at that too, fond memories of dragging some schoolmates along.

Headphone Jack (seandalai), Monday, 23 January 2017 00:04 (seven years ago) link

Can were always a group of outstanding individual players, but it is inconceivable to think what they have sounded like without Jaki.

calzino, Monday, 23 January 2017 00:23 (seven years ago) link

RIP. Probably my favorite drummer. Just the pure sound of his drums were something else. His sense of rhythm still knocks me out.

Michael F Gill, Monday, 23 January 2017 00:34 (seven years ago) link

xp agreed, he was their binding agent/catalyst

sleeve, Monday, 23 January 2017 00:38 (seven years ago) link

Love his drumming here (also there and everywhere)
RIP Jaki

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAhTMkXAPUk

めんどくさかった (Matt #2), Monday, 23 January 2017 00:50 (seven years ago) link

search the first two Pluramon records, he is all over those and sounds so good

sleeve, Monday, 23 January 2017 00:50 (seven years ago) link

^^ yes.

Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 23 January 2017 00:53 (seven years ago) link

aw man, RIP human metronome

Al Moon Faced Poon (Moodles), Monday, 23 January 2017 00:59 (seven years ago) link

Oh god, no, that man spoke directly to my soul. The best ever.

attention vampire (MatthewK), Monday, 23 January 2017 01:12 (seven years ago) link

I read about Can for years before I ever actually heard them, and I don't know what I expected them to sound like -- "weird," I guess, influential in some way. I was totally unprepared for them to be a funky groove band, and Jaki was totally the soul of the band's sound. They might have still been a good band with a different drummer, I don't know, but he made them great.

Fuck. Probably my favourite drummer, and getting to hang out when I supported him and Hans Joachim Irmler in 2015 was a fucking dream come true. He was super lovely, too.

emil.y, Monday, 23 January 2017 02:47 (seven years ago) link

RIP. I'm off to play Halleluwah on an infinite loop.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Monday, 23 January 2017 02:47 (seven years ago) link

When will we be home, be at home, a line, no questions
Now I don't know what I feel, "be easy", Jaki said that
I just saw her, could say another colour, I don't know if that's good or bad
"For five colours will make the ears blind", Jaki said that
Actually here's the sound, I hear that

earlnash, Monday, 23 January 2017 03:45 (seven years ago) link

i can probably do without most rhythms if i can just have jaki and autechre ca. 1994.

The times they are a changing, perhaps (map), Monday, 23 January 2017 04:56 (seven years ago) link

xxp: again, the "metronome" aspect has nothing to do with boring regularity in the actual rhythm played. It's the pulse which anchors all his fluidity and adventurousness. It's exactly like the best Autechre, there are rhythm patterns bordering on chaos but the pulse is implied so strongly it's visceral.
Klaus Dinger played much more straight "motorik" beats for Neu! et al., but Jaki's metronome was like an atomic clock by comparison.

― attention vampire (MatthewK), Tuesday, 24 January 2017 03:34 (twelve hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

^^^^

Eats like Elvis, shits like De Niro (Tom D.), Tuesday, 24 January 2017 16:17 (seven years ago) link

I think that's crazy, too, re: Autechre. I love Autechre beats, but "metronomic" is absolutely not the word I'd choose.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 24 January 2017 16:37 (seven years ago) link

So I take it no one has listened to his playing on the Michael Rother records then? He is absolutely not swinging at all on those or deviating much from the set pattern. As noted above, he is almost doing a Klaus Dinger impression on those four records (all of which I love in part because of his Jaki's minimalist playing).

Just to be clear, my point was not that he was a human metronome – or that he was similar to Dinger. Rather, it was 1) that his reputation was perhaps influenced by those Rother records and, more importantly, 2) that his style and sound changed considerably in the second half of his career.

As amazing as something like "Hallelujah" was, there is a metric ton of James Brown in that performance that I haven't come across in any of his post-80s work. When I came across his performances on Nicky Skopelitis's Ecstasis, his sound had become much more Caribbean- and African-based, with tighter snares, more toms and odder time signatures. He continued that approach through much of the next two-plus decades.

That's all I was saying.

Naive Teen Idol, Tuesday, 24 January 2017 17:06 (seven years ago) link

he is almost doing a Klaus Dinger impression on those four records

Not much almost about it tbh. I don't think they had much of an impact on his reputation one way or the other, his style had changed on Can records by then anyway.

Eats like Elvis, shits like De Niro (Tom D.), Tuesday, 24 January 2017 17:09 (seven years ago) link

yeah i think i assumed that the drummer on flammende herzen was dinger at first. seem to recall that Rother said Liebezeit was a genius, while Dinger was just "crazy."

tylerw, Tuesday, 24 January 2017 17:10 (seven years ago) link

Nicky Skopelitis's Ecstasis

wow I totally forgot about this album (and Jaki being on it). I bought so many of those Axiom records at the time.

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 24 January 2017 17:11 (seven years ago) link

Would someone be able to attempt a Jaki playlist? Realising how little of his post-Can work I'm aware of.

Sunn O))) Brother Where Art Thou? (Chinaski), Tuesday, 24 January 2017 19:07 (seven years ago) link

here's a good primer on his non-Can action: http://pitchfork.com/thepitch/1422-jaki-liebezeits-best-drumming-outside-of-can/

tylerw, Tuesday, 24 January 2017 19:13 (seven years ago) link

He's on every Holger Czukay album - except the ones that don't have drums. Plus, I keep mentioning this album in the hope that someone listens to it, the album "Alex" by, er, Alex.

Eats like Elvis, shits like De Niro (Tom D.), Tuesday, 24 January 2017 19:19 (seven years ago) link

Cheers for the primer link, Tyler. How have I never heard that Wobble track? Magnificent.

Sunn O))) Brother Where Art Thou? (Chinaski), Tuesday, 24 January 2017 19:36 (seven years ago) link

xxxxxp Josh - all I can say is playing Autechre in the car, my daughter observed "dad you are tapping to a beat which is not in the music". Maybe it's just me.

attention vampire (MatthewK), Tuesday, 24 January 2017 20:09 (seven years ago) link

Search out the recent Can poll results thread, also includes extra-Canicular activity.

The Alex album is certainly notable for being Holger & Jaki in Can studio in 1973 rehearsing or reprising Future Days type stuff. One track has a rhythm section that's basically a version of Spray.

Also check an uncredited Jaki on a Samba-Trip / Samba-Session & Hello Beach-Girls on Richard Schneider Jr.'s Dreamlike Land album.

Noel Emits, Tuesday, 24 January 2017 20:39 (seven years ago) link

As amazing as something like "Hallelujah" was,

I am sure you meant halleluwah, didn't you? One of the best:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2dZbAFmnRVA

it's the distortion, stupid! (alex in mainhattan), Tuesday, 24 January 2017 20:53 (seven years ago) link

Someone should get their plunderphonic on and do a Handel halleluwah chorus

his eye is on despair-o (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 24 January 2017 22:16 (seven years ago) link

NP pluramon render bandits
This is delicious and I am excited that I've never over-listened to it despite having it awhile

his eye is on despair-o (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 24 January 2017 22:23 (seven years ago) link

it is so good!

sleeve, Tuesday, 24 January 2017 22:47 (seven years ago) link

I've seen it spelled both ways, Halleluwah/jah

Mark G, Wednesday, 25 January 2017 00:09 (seven years ago) link

Halleluwhuh?

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 25 January 2017 00:12 (seven years ago) link

Been listening all week to all five volumes of the Secret Rhythms records on Spotify. Not sure which I like best (5 is pretty great) but this goes down very well as I mourn the guy.

Naive Teen Idol, Saturday, 28 January 2017 00:32 (seven years ago) link

Been listening all week to all five volumes of the Secret Rhythms records on Spotify. Not sure which I like best (5 is pretty great) but this goes down very well as I mourn the guy.

Naive Teen Idol, Saturday, 28 January 2017 00:32 (seven years ago) link

I know no other drummer who has such a sense of dosage for every single beat,

so rad to read this, amid the other medically-inflected can lexicon picks; dosage

schlump, Saturday, 28 January 2017 01:43 (seven years ago) link

Trying to get a drummer friend into Jaki. Can you give me a POX of highlights?

dance cum rituals (Moka), Saturday, 28 January 2017 02:14 (seven years ago) link

Halleluwah and Pinch are my first options.

dance cum rituals (Moka), Saturday, 28 January 2017 02:14 (seven years ago) link

Live version of Yoo Doo Right
Mother Sky
This person should not need a lot of convincing imo!

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Saturday, 28 January 2017 02:37 (seven years ago) link

Live version of Yoo Doo Right
Mother Sky
This person should not need a lot of convincing imo!

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Saturday, 28 January 2017 02:37 (seven years ago) link

Those are overdubs not duplicate posts btw ;)

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Saturday, 28 January 2017 02:41 (seven years ago) link

Played Can for the first time to an older friend of mine who is mostly into jazz and more obvious rock, but who has been receptively (at the least from an academic stance) to weirder, more experimental stuff, and he was fascinated.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 28 January 2017 14:36 (seven years ago) link

I put back up a mix I did in 2009 of post-Can music by Can folks from 1979-1984, as 17 out the 22 tracks feature Jaki. Somebody should do a further volume from 1985-2016. . .


Can – ‘The Church of Latter-Day Can, Book Two’
(Beyond Can, 1977-1984)

01 Michael Rother (with Liebezeit & Plank) – “Karussell” (Edit) – [‘Flammende Herzen,’ 1977] (3:22)
02 Michael Rother (with Liebezeit & Plank) – “Zeni” (Edit) – [‘Flammende Herzen,’ 1977] (3:38)
03 Czukay (with Liebezeit & Rebop Baah) – Cool in the Pool” – [‘Movies,’ 1979] (5:03)
04 Phantom Band (with Liebezeit) – “Without Desire” – [‘Phantom Band,’ 1980] (2:38)
05 Phantom Band (with Liebezeit & Rosko Gee) – “You Inspired Me” – [‘Phantom Band,’ 1980] (4:00)
06 Eurythmics (with Liebezeit) – “Take Me To Your Heart” – [‘In The Garden,’ 1981] (3:35)
07 Eurythmics (with Czukay & Liebezeit) – “Never Gonna Cry Again” – [‘In The Garden,’ 1981] (3:05)
08 Les Vampyrettes (Czukay & Plank) – “Biomutanten” (Edit) – [‘Biomutanten‘ EP, 1981] (3:32)
09 Phantom Band (with Liebezeit) – “Experiments” – [‘Freedom of Speech,’ 1981] (3:34)
10 Liebezeit, Czukay & Jah Wobble – Trench Warfare” – [‘How Much Are They?‘ EP, 1981] (4:50)
11 Czukay (with Liebezeit) – “Fragrance” – [‘On the Way to the Peak of Normal,’ 1981] (4:13)
12 Phew (with Liebezeit & Czukay) – “Fragment” – [‘Phew,’ 1981] (3:59)
13 Schmidt (with Bruno Spoerri) – “Toy Planet” – [‘Toy Planet,’ 1981] (3:04)
14 Schmidt (with Liebezeit, Karoli & Gee) – “Endstation Freiheit” – [‘Filmmuzik Vol. 2,’ 1981] (3:37)
15 Dunkelziffer (with Liebezeit) – “Strom” (Edit) – [‘Stil Der Neuen Zeit’ EP, 1982] (3:03)
16 Czukay, Jah Wobble, The Edge & Francois Kevorkian – “Snake Charmer” – [‘Snake Charmer’ EP, 1983] (4:07)
17 Gabi Delgado (with Liebezeit) – “Victim” – [‘Mistress,’ 1983] (3:30)
18 Phantom Band (with Liebezeit) – “The Party” – [‘Nowhere,’ 1984] (1:31)
19 Phantom Band (with Liebezeit) – “Loading Zone” – [‘Nowhere,’ 1984] (3:50)
20 Dunkelziffer (with Suzuki) – “Watch On My Head” – [‘In The Night,’ 1984] (2:52)
21 Karoli & Polly Eltes (with Liebezeit) – “Yours & Mine” – [‘Deluge,’ 1984] (4:28)
22 Karoli & Polly Eltes – “Watch On My Head” (Edit) – [‘Deluge,’ 1984] (3:47)

[Total Time: 78:37]

https://musicophilia.wordpress.com/2009/06/16/one-off-can-the-church-of-latter-day-can-book-two-beyond-can-1977-1984/

Soundslike, Saturday, 28 January 2017 15:50 (seven years ago) link

thanks, looks great

sleeve, Saturday, 28 January 2017 16:51 (seven years ago) link

one year passes...

https://soundcloud.com/kumo/sets/jaki-cassette-excerpts

please someone please help put this book project up to goal so we can hear more of these
i could listen to this all day tbh

"Jaki used cassettes as a notepad – a rehearsal tool, recording not just himself for reference but also the groups who would play together in his room.
He enjoyed the simplicity of one button each for record and playback and that there was no complex set up with microphones.
He also experimented with the auto record levelling system of cheap recorders."

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 17 May 2018 16:25 (six years ago) link

three months pass...

Update:

Manuscript received!
Tuesday, 7 August 2018
Hi Everyone
Just a quick note to let you know that the manuscript for the book has been submitted and received by Unbound; which means the painstaking but now irrevocable process of publishing now begins!
The book will slowly become a reality over the next 12 months and I'll keep you updated at various milestones along the way. It was a very exciting moment when we pieced a ll the chapters from the various contributors together and got a feel for what a wonderful thing we're creating here.
More soon.... and thanks again for your support over the last 12 months
Jono

Naive Teen Idol, Friday, 31 August 2018 15:21 (six years ago) link

yaaaay finally it is going to happen!

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Friday, 31 August 2018 17:24 (six years ago) link

four months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNrV_pnamQ4

MaresNest, Wednesday, 23 January 2019 00:19 (five years ago) link

That's a good jam.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 23 January 2019 17:32 (five years ago) link

My it is a good jam

eva logorrhea (bendy), Thursday, 24 January 2019 03:12 (five years ago) link

the rhythm goes on!

Ich bin kein Berliner (alex in mainhattan), Monday, 4 February 2019 21:49 (five years ago) link

eleven months pass...

https://unbound.com/books/jaki-liebezeit/

Frozen Mug (Tom D.), Saturday, 25 January 2020 10:20 (four years ago) link

seven months pass...

https://www.eventbrite.ie/e/prog-rock-grooves-jaki-liebezeit-the-nature-of-rhythm-tickets-119431766629
a tribute toi Jaki as part of the Culture NIght celebration tonight.
not sure what status is on tickets and how limited tehy are so best to try to book one as soon as you see this if you can.

Stevolende, Friday, 18 September 2020 11:16 (four years ago) link

I just got one at 9:30 am Pacific Time. Starts at 11:00.

nickn, Friday, 18 September 2020 16:37 (four years ago) link

not sue thsi si going to work, but the youtube showing is here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNkWUDCZ6QA
may remain there, not sure

or if that doesn't embed the URL is
www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNkWUDCZ6QA

Stevolende, Friday, 18 September 2020 18:14 (four years ago) link

Working for me!

I was not able to attend via my reg because I used my work email rather than my home one to get the link here at work, so Eventbrite doesn't recognize me.

nickn, Friday, 18 September 2020 18:18 (four years ago) link

ok, that link appears to start at about the right place. I noticed the one i had on Facebook started 3hrs and 9 minutes into a longer recording. Looks like that's bookmarked at the right point though

Stevolende, Saturday, 19 September 2020 10:37 (four years ago) link

Thought this revive might be about an album he did with Kevin coynes son that I read a positive review about today

plax (ico), Saturday, 19 September 2020 21:06 (four years ago) link

NO, quite good little improvisation thing done byu some musician fans in Dublin. I quite enjoyed that. Nott sure how frequently I'd revisit but did enjoy it.

Saw jaki i a 2 piece thing inn Dublin in the late 90s. wonder if that was the Coyne son thing

Stevolende, Saturday, 19 September 2020 22:05 (four years ago) link

This continues to be one of my favorite things on YouTube:

https://youtu.be/h6w7JiWRpvA

Are there more of these videos?

Naive Teen Idol, Sunday, 20 September 2020 00:09 (four years ago) link

four years pass...

Currently reading the Jaki book mentioned upthread, finished the bio section and getting into the theory portion.

Shamefully I've never been a huge Canhead, although I've dipped into the records over the years and love his playing (and recently got obsessed with the two recent Drums Off Chaos records that are available on streaming). Curious about the Club Off Chaos records, listening to some stuff on youtube that's totally sick.

Anyone heard this one?
https://www.discogs.com/release/26242415-Various-Instant-Music-Club-2007-2022

Jordan s/t (Jordan), Wednesday, 27 November 2024 15:44 (one week ago) link

I have not, but I love his drumming on the Pluramon albums

sleeve, Wednesday, 27 November 2024 15:57 (one week ago) link

I'm amazed there still exist ILXors who aren't into Can, I thought that was like, our band

frogbs, Wednesday, 27 November 2024 16:18 (one week ago) link

Lol, I mean it's not like I don't like them, they just never clicked for me as an obsession. Neu was the one that captured my imagination in the early ILM days.

Jordan s/t (Jordan), Wednesday, 27 November 2024 16:27 (one week ago) link

That Instant Club Music live compilation rips btw, feels like a cool documentation of a scene too? Lots of rhythmic percussion ensemble stuff (using Jaki's systems even when he's not on a track) along with electronics, piano, some great vocals, etc on some pieces.

Jordan s/t (Jordan), Friday, 29 November 2024 16:51 (one week ago) link


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