Rolling R&B Thread 2017

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I'm starting this because it's more than halfway through the month and no one else did. Sad state of affairs

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Wednesday, 18 January 2017 02:57 (nine months ago) Permalink

A theory: this year a big R&B "mainstream" rises again in between tasteful NPR approved cred nonsense like anderson paak & scumbag lazy drake karaoke like bryson thanks in large part to Apple Music's R&B selection & increasing #s of A&Rs investing in its development as the industry shakes off the pre-streaming era

i like this

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Wednesday, 18 January 2017 03:00 (nine months ago) Permalink

Tricky Stewart's new project sounds good

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Wednesday, 18 January 2017 03:13 (nine months ago) Permalink

The guy behind Location comes up with a far superior follow-up single.

voodoo chili, Wednesday, 18 January 2017 03:37 (nine months ago) Permalink


Curious what folks think of this song "Sprung" by Lucas Coly, kind of undecided what I think of him yet, seems talented but maybe a bit of a blank canvas

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Wednesday, 18 January 2017 03:50 (nine months ago) Permalink

Would be great if 2017 was the year prestige R&B finally shook those mellowed out subaquatic "Marvin's Room"/"4 AM" production tropes for good. The stray Tinashe track aside I don't think there's any life left in that sound. Time to move on to something new.

Would also love to see a commercial resurgence for R&B this year but I don't know that it will happen. Last year was a landmark one for great R&B albums, but the only ones that really got much attention were the ones with overt political subtexts. I don't see that halo effect helping guys like Kalin White or other '17 Omarion equivalents.

Evan R, Wednesday, 18 January 2017 16:12 (nine months ago) Permalink

right, what i'm saying is, my prediction is that will happen

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Wednesday, 18 January 2017 18:03 (nine months ago) Permalink

people are already looking cynically at everyone marketing themselves "politically" after the election anyway

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Wednesday, 18 January 2017 18:03 (nine months ago) Permalink

Did this latest Jacquees single ever get posted? Has a vintage T-Pain vibe (without the T-Pain shtick obviously)

Evan R, Wednesday, 18 January 2017 22:06 (nine months ago) Permalink

Yeah I dig it, feels like it could do something

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Wednesday, 18 January 2017 22:42 (nine months ago) Permalink

"location" is kind of good. i wish he didn't sing like that but the production is pretty cool and a bit different. it sorta strikes me as the "caroline" of R&B.

"saved" is alright but it sounds vaguely british to me in a way that is off putting to me. very mercury prize core.

J0rdan S., Thursday, 19 January 2017 22:38 (nine months ago) Permalink

that kalin track seems replacement level in a zayn-ish way to me but i'm interested in if there's any juice in that solo career or not. wonder what myles is up to.

J0rdan S., Thursday, 19 January 2017 22:39 (nine months ago) Permalink

that thidaniel song is good. i kinda want it to break into a full reggae thing a la "rude" but as a baby's first do you like druuuuuuuugs it's pretty hot.

J0rdan S., Thursday, 19 January 2017 22:42 (nine months ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

Kinda curious what folks think of Kincy:

south side chicago singer, did some work on bj the chicago kid's album, has a full album up on streaming services right now called 20s.

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Monday, 6 February 2017 15:25 (eight months ago) Permalink

any relation to gemini

r|t|c, Monday, 6 February 2017 16:03 (eight months ago) Permalink

listened to his album. he's talented, i wasnt bored. more a studio lab ideas guy than concise solo artist maybe... songwriting is adequate and vehicular. kinda simultaneously over and under-focused as a producer; singles sound better out of context cos the dense tinkering comes off as interestingly offguard restless, on album the jodeci weighs too heavy and all its little creativities get blurry myopic. 'mo shots' is a good example, anchorless but great when it does coalesce

r|t|c, Monday, 6 February 2017 17:00 (eight months ago) Permalink

Name one song that you wish you wrote?
Anything on the Diddy Dirty Money record.

r|t|c, Monday, 6 February 2017 17:01 (eight months ago) Permalink

i also posted this in the mumble rap thread but in the event that there are some who dont crossover between both, RIP dinnerwithjohn aka john walt, a v talented singer

This is a Chicago classic:

he was still developing:

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Thursday, 9 February 2017 16:16 (eight months ago) Permalink

some nice stuff on the jacquees & dej loaf valentine's mixtape,like "waves"

lex pretend, Monday, 13 February 2017 13:42 (eight months ago) Permalink

and in the year of our lord 2017 did james fauntleroy finally release a dope ass masterful solo thing that didnt go in one ear and out the other. 10/10

r|t|c, Thursday, 16 February 2017 00:44 (eight months ago) Permalink

wow, had no idea about john walt. very sad. kemo walk is infectious - the line "i pull up in origami" still cycles through my head all the time. RIP.

anza808, Thursday, 16 February 2017 01:18 (eight months ago) Permalink

SZA's collab w/ kingdom on his debut record (one of 2 SZA collabs on the album) is gorgeous:

joshywinty (josh), Thursday, 16 February 2017 22:24 (eight months ago) Permalink

here to register my deep unintellectual enjoyment of the new charlie wilson-ish charlie wilson record

the raindrops and drop tops of lived, earned experience (BradNelson), Friday, 17 February 2017 19:46 (eight months ago) Permalink

Anybody enjoying the Sampha album? It sounds superb but it's not moving me at all

Evan R, Monday, 20 February 2017 17:23 (seven months ago) Permalink

His singles put me to sleep.

some sad trombone Twilight Zone shit (cryptosicko), Monday, 20 February 2017 17:27 (seven months ago) Permalink

yeah, his voice is an incredible instrument yet somehow the final product feels empty

Evan R, Monday, 20 February 2017 17:30 (seven months ago) Permalink

can't stand his voice so the album is a non-starter

the raindrops and drop tops of lived, earned experience (BradNelson), Monday, 20 February 2017 17:44 (seven months ago) Permalink

i love "timmy's prayer" but everything else hasn't hit me in the same way

joshywinty (josh), Monday, 20 February 2017 19:00 (seven months ago) Permalink

Does anybody else's rap/R&B station play that Bibi Bourelly song all the time? I can't figure out what's going on; it's always prefaced with a spoken intro from Bourelly about the song, and packaged so that it feels like sponsored content. The song isn't actually charting from what I can tell.

My station did the same thing a few years back with Tinashe's "2 On," but that song was a legit hit. "Ballin" is just atrocious

Evan R, Tuesday, 28 February 2017 18:45 (seven months ago) Permalink

Ack, so here's what's going on

Inactive since early in the fall, iHeartRadio’s “On The Verge” program is back.

Monday, iHeart identified Bibi Bourelly’s “Ballin” as its new urban radio pick.

In addition to branding support across the iHeart digital networks, “On The Verge” provides selected artists/songs with guaranteed airplay on the iHeartMedia network of stations. While not enough to automatically take a song to #1, the guaranteed airplay gives selections a legitimate chance to connect with listeners.

“Ballin” was up to #39 on this past week’s Mediabase urban airplay chart.

This is nuts. I understand giving a platform to an undiscovered artist to mix things up, but for nearly two months they've been giving constant, national airplay to a song that, as best I can tell, nobody enjoys. It's like they reactivated the program and forgot about it.

Evan R, Tuesday, 28 February 2017 18:57 (seven months ago) Permalink

she is very much an industry plant

maura, Tuesday, 28 February 2017 21:19 (seven months ago) Permalink

Yeah, like, every part of that song is so extremely cynical, even with out the irony of all those lines about working-class woes coming from a wealthy songwriter to the stars. And her vocal affect is just agony.

Anyway, turns out she's being hyped through the same machine that made Iggy Azalea happen.

But her failure to gain any sort of traction, even with hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of free air time devoted to her, makes it all extra sad and obnoxious. Like, it's been eight weeks, maybe it's time to just move on to another artist or song or something

Evan R, Tuesday, 28 February 2017 21:28 (seven months ago) Permalink

id like to observe that im actually not mad at the idea of this mechanism, i mean a kehlani record was semi-launched by it too, we all know it's a lot harder for radio to break records the way it once could & im not mad that they have some kind of panic button if it works on occasion

but of course its also just showing that they push some random ass shit

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Tuesday, 28 February 2017 22:42 (seven months ago) Permalink

I mean, if they selected a new artist every week or even every other week, it'd be kinda great. A few dozen lesser known artists a year would have some fighting chance at making a name for themselves, and even in a worst case scenario there'd be some gems. Plus it's just always nice hearing new stuff on the radio.

Having the same shitty song force-fed to us for two-plus months though is dreadful, though. Somehow even with all the free airplay, Bourelly's song hasn't even cracked the charts, which tells the whole story. Like, it honestly feels like a clerical error at this point, like corporate decreed this song must be in hourly rotation but forgot to send out the memo saying it was time to move on

Evan R, Tuesday, 28 February 2017 22:55 (seven months ago) Permalink

she also played on some awards show- i forget which- as an "emerging talent." (maybe it was the BET awards?)

maura, Tuesday, 28 February 2017 23:38 (seven months ago) Permalink

yeah i heard a payola-spin of "ballin'" yesterday (my city's station had been playing it before it had been chosen for it) and ugh the chorus is really awful omg

it's currently at #26 on the r&b/hip-hop airplay chart, so technically it is charting. tho i find it super sad that radio playlists are now so tight that it is extremely hard for a new artist to break through w/o a mechanism like this (especially true at pop and country radio), i'm at least glad that at least some women are getting chosen for it at urban radio, since they've had it rougher than just about anyone.

dyl, Wednesday, 1 March 2017 18:14 (seven months ago) Permalink

She's a Marylander and her dad Jean-Paul Bourelly was a guitarist involved with Black Rock Coalition bands, plus she wrote some songs for others first...

After attending Blake High School in Silver Spring, Bourelly moved to Los Angeles to continue pursuing her music career, and the City of Angels delivered on its promise. She penned one of last year’s biggest songs, Rihanna’s “Bitch Better Have My Money,” in addition to several cuts on Rihanna’s latest release, “Anti.”

From a freelancer's Washington Post review

curmudgeon, Thursday, 2 March 2017 14:36 (seven months ago) Permalink

Just more background, not defending song or the mechanism that is getting it airplay

curmudgeon, Thursday, 2 March 2017 14:46 (seven months ago) Permalink

iheartradio has been doing this for a while...

J0rdan S., Thursday, 2 March 2017 15:05 (seven months ago) Permalink

also that song is good

J0rdan S., Thursday, 2 March 2017 15:06 (seven months ago) Permalink

lol yeah it's really nbd

r|t|c, Thursday, 2 March 2017 16:49 (seven months ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

new chloexhalle mixtape is really nice

maura, Monday, 20 March 2017 01:00 (six months ago) Permalink

quite surprised by how good this single from terribly-named new british r&b boy band mic lowry is

lex pretend, Tuesday, 21 March 2017 12:52 (six months ago) Permalink

i've heard this song on the radio late at night a couple times now and it kinda caught me off guard both times. (yes, it interpolates the soul ii soul classic, but that's probably the least interesting thing about it.) embarrassingly i had forgotten who letoya luckett is but in my defense it's been quite a while since she last made any waves.

(there's a music video too but i didn't embed that b/c there's so much dialog in it)

dyl, Wednesday, 22 March 2017 06:55 (six months ago) Permalink

R.L.UM.R. "Frustrated" is excellent…

veronica moser, Wednesday, 22 March 2017 14:38 (six months ago) Permalink

whoa, has that guy done anything else? That's really great... savvy mix of modernist stuff and Showtime at the Apollo-wave

Evan R, Wednesday, 22 March 2017 14:50 (six months ago) Permalink

there's very little info on him… but I hear that song all the time on the radio…

veronica moser, Wednesday, 22 March 2017 14:56 (six months ago) Permalink

Great recommendations all around itt. That Letoya Luckett track is lovely and one of the rare times an interpolation like that doesn't pull me out of the song

And man that Chloe x Halle tape is a stunner, maybe the best R&B project I've heart this year, up there with Kelhani. They're Beyonce proteges? Love how fast the whole thing moves; such great movement and concision. Weird comparison, but since most of these songs are under two minutes it kinda plays like the alt-R&B answer to that Mannequin Pussy album from last year, just a splatter of brilliant ideas that never pauses. "Poppy Flower" and "Wonder"... man.

Lex, wasn't able to stream that song b/c SoundCloud wants me to have some sort of premium account (gross) to hear the whole thing. Preview sounded cool tho

Evan R, Wednesday, 22 March 2017 14:58 (six months ago) Permalink

that RLUMR single and the Chloe x Halle mixtape are really great! Went back to CxH's EP from last year too and that's terrific too - you can definitely hear a lot of the precision and detail of Bey's s/t in both.

lex pretend, Thursday, 23 March 2017 13:43 (six months ago) Permalink

i think i LOVE the khalid album

monotony, Monday, 27 March 2017 07:06 (six months ago) Permalink

whole album is solid as hell imo

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Monday, 12 June 2017 15:29 (four months ago) Permalink

the solo debut by stokley of mint condition is out today, and this might be my song of the summer

maura, Friday, 23 June 2017 12:05 (three months ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

New Goapele album out. in love w this one atm

down that brown path (Spottie), Thursday, 13 July 2017 06:29 (three months ago) Permalink

also new sevyn for those who didn't follow the artist specific thread

half year update on the playlist

ILM's Rolling R&B Thread 2017 Spotify Playlist

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Thursday, 13 July 2017 11:59 (three months ago) Permalink

New Lloyd

Evan R, Wednesday, 19 July 2017 15:01 (three months ago) Permalink

aww i like this!

maura, Wednesday, 19 July 2017 15:23 (three months ago) Permalink

i put this in the jeremih thread but nobody bit

this song he & yung berg did for justine sky might be one of the best things i've heard this year. maybe it's just cuz i've been listening to teedra moses a lot but i get that kinda vibe here, but also the textures and dueling guy/girl vocals remind me of last train to paris. and the chorus has this whimsical vocal melody that feels very characteristically jeremih to me. great song.

J0rdan S., Saturday, 22 July 2017 07:19 (two months ago) Permalink

yeah this is nice. she sounds like dawn on a few parts, the production would def fit on lttp

down that brown path (Spottie), Saturday, 22 July 2017 21:52 (two months ago) Permalink

a lil retro but i like it

in other news, kehlani should sue:

Demi really served up the bad bitch anthem of 2017.

— ً (@ButeraDemetria) July 19, 2017

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Saturday, 22 July 2017 22:21 (two months ago) Permalink

damn yah

down that brown path (Spottie), Saturday, 22 July 2017 22:33 (two months ago) Permalink

Diggin that Justine Sky track.

MikoMcha, Sunday, 23 July 2017 06:55 (two months ago) Permalink

totally loving the stokley album, lots of prince/miguel/stevie/saadiq/d'arby vibes throughout... wouldn't mind a thread for it actually

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Sunday, 23 July 2017 15:46 (two months ago) Permalink

I like the Luke Christopher album OK; it's a little too obviously post-Drake at times (particularly in terms of his flow, which is loose enough that I think the album is appropriate for this thread) but there are a lot of interesting ideas in the music. He's on ByStorm, which is the same imprint Miguel is on.

maura, Friday, 28 July 2017 13:23 (two months ago) Permalink

also the lovely new ne-yo track has a video

maura, Friday, 28 July 2017 14:05 (two months ago) Permalink

i really hope the collapse of the pop market for anyone who isn't both a chainsmoker (or connected to one) and under 27 means that his label will stop forcing him to dabble in edm bullshit

maura, Friday, 28 July 2017 14:11 (two months ago) Permalink

"another love song" is so good

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Friday, 28 July 2017 14:21 (two months ago) Permalink

(that said, i don't mind if he does another pitbull collab)

maura, Friday, 28 July 2017 14:23 (two months ago) Permalink

ne yo track is great

Spottie, Friday, 28 July 2017 20:26 (two months ago) Permalink

new cassie with (blech) g-eazy

maura, Friday, 4 August 2017 14:03 (two months ago) Permalink

love the title line and the production is beautiful

g-eazy unsurprisingly offers nothing but the reminder that the industry sees guest raps as little more than signposts for radio programmers. unfortunately for some reason there probably won't be a maroon 5-esque 'without rap' edit for the ac stations cuz otherwise i'd be seeking it out.

dyl, Friday, 4 August 2017 16:52 (two months ago) Permalink

there might be! adult r&b is a growing format

maura, Friday, 4 August 2017 20:56 (two months ago) Permalink

A solo version of that track was originally intended for release so hopefully we get it eventually, the random rapper addition must've happened pretty recently before they premiered it. Like I said in her thread it's smooth and I'm enjoying it a lot but I just hope she doesn't disappear again after this.

all the way down, Saturday, 5 August 2017 14:32 (two months ago) Permalink

maybe i'm wrong but i feel like there's been a major uptick in adult r&b radio stars singing over trap-ish beats this year. not that trend-hopping hits are necessarily good, but if it means more room for male vocalists who don't have thin chris brown-type voices then i can't say i'm opposed.

(my favorite thing about this one is that the way he sings "fuck" sounds appropriately mid-coital)

dyl, Friday, 18 August 2017 22:29 (two months ago) Permalink

Thraed of Iconika

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Saturday, 19 August 2017 05:57 (two months ago) Permalink

^^^good shit

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Saturday, 19 August 2017 05:57 (two months ago) Permalink

new luke jaaaaaames

i was so worried he'd given up music for acting. i love this

maura, Tuesday, 22 August 2017 15:52 (one month ago) Permalink

yeah song is a jam

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Tuesday, 22 August 2017 18:29 (one month ago) Permalink

great song & video

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 22 August 2017 18:50 (one month ago) Permalink

so good

Spottie, Tuesday, 22 August 2017 18:56 (one month ago) Permalink


Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Tuesday, 22 August 2017 19:07 (one month ago) Permalink

Love this new Jean Deaux track

Evan R, Tuesday, 22 August 2017 20:41 (one month ago) Permalink

new syd:

monotony, Wednesday, 23 August 2017 00:58 (one month ago) Permalink

pretty sure 'Fin' is gonna end up being a best of the year album for me

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Wednesday, 23 August 2017 01:04 (one month ago) Permalink

this is pretty good

also i need to listen to that syd record

maura, Wednesday, 23 August 2017 13:02 (one month ago) Permalink

it flags a bit in the middle but is otherwise aces

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Wednesday, 23 August 2017 13:04 (one month ago) Permalink

Syd solo i don't care for as much as the internet stuff

daniel caesar is v v good

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Wednesday, 23 August 2017 20:44 (one month ago) Permalink

Daniel Caesar's album is so good!

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Friday, 25 August 2017 17:15 (one month ago) Permalink

Really floored by the new Elijah Blake album. Feels like a more youthful spin on Anthony Hamilton's act—same virtuosic grasp of multiple styles and eras of R&B, but with more of a '90s spirit. A bunch of tracks sprawl in some Maxwell-esque directions, too... wonderful stuff

Evan R, Friday, 25 August 2017 20:29 (one month ago) Permalink

and yeah that Daniel Caesar album is sensational. What a week

Evan R, Friday, 25 August 2017 20:31 (one month ago) Permalink

Caesar album is indeed great.

playing new york in november -

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Saturday, 26 August 2017 14:58 (one month ago) Permalink

On Under the Streetlight, Boyz II Men put their spin on classics such as "Why Do Fools Fall in Love," (Frankie Lymon & The Teenagers), "Stay" (Maurice Williams & the Zodiacs) and "I Only Have Eyes for You" (The Flamingos) along with an original composition, "Ladies Man."

The album also features three guest vocalists who join the trio: Multi-platinum R&B artist Brian McKnight on "I'll Come Running Back To You," "Tears On My Pillow," and "A Sunday Kind Of Love"; Olivier Award Winner Amber Riley (Glee, London's Dreamgirls) on "Anyone Who Knows What Love Is"; and ten-time Grammy® winners Take Six join the trio on "A Thousand Miles Away."

maura, Wednesday, 6 September 2017 16:45 (one month ago) Permalink

also there's a new syd record out friday?

maura, Wednesday, 6 September 2017 16:46 (one month ago) Permalink


Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Thursday, 7 September 2017 16:39 (one month ago) Permalink

enjoyed the Caesar album so much that i went back and tried his 2015 debut Pilgrim's Paradise and hooboy he's gotten much better over the past few years.

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Thursday, 7 September 2017 16:41 (one month ago) Permalink

These dudes are playing here tomorrow:

maura, Thursday, 14 September 2017 00:36 (one month ago) Permalink

the r.lum.r single posted upthread five months ago left me cold when first posted but it is kind of a revelation on the radio

dyl, Sunday, 17 September 2017 02:25 (one month ago) Permalink

i like the new musiq soulchild album. it's a double album. marsha ambrosius and neil degrasse tyson are among the guests.

maura, Monday, 18 September 2017 14:14 (one month ago) Permalink

Also, new Ledisi album out Friday:

maura, Monday, 18 September 2017 14:15 (one month ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

havent listened to enough r&b this year but rexx life raj has released some stuff i like

Spottie, Monday, 2 October 2017 19:35 (two weeks ago) Permalink

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