lol @ google polling how uncool yahoo is
― Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 11 June 2018 19:55 (five years ago) link
Vice should die in a fire
― Οὖτις, Monday, 11 June 2018 19:57 (five years ago) link
by all rights Vice should have an all-conquering, dumb-ass podcast network by now
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 11 June 2018 20:37 (five years ago) link
they don't have a bench of actual interesting personalities, nor do they really have enough depth on any specific topics
I mean, plenty of podcasts find success without either, but it ties back to the problem that their brand has no ethos. I mean, what's their hook, that they're edgy?
― mh, Monday, 11 June 2018 20:45 (five years ago) link
the tagline on vice.com is VICE - Original reporting and documentaries on everything that matters in the world.
so they're CNN only they're, like, cool if you're 40 and a dude who used to do too much coke?
― mh, Monday, 11 June 2018 20:47 (five years ago) link
someone get Desus & Mero a HBO contract or something
― mh, Monday, June 11, 2018 5:52 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
otm
― bernard snowy, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 00:13 (five years ago) link
i liked the edgy vice of my youth, even though it's aged terribly those were quality LOLs that i cherish. the company's identity crisis is something to behold for sure and almost everything it does completely sucks but i think there is a potentially good version of vice out there that i like to imagine sometimes
― flopson, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 00:29 (five years ago) link
I just looked up that Google report that put Vice at 2nd least cool among teens - it has YouTube at #1 on its cool graph? I knew YouTube was popular with the kids but I can't say I've ever thought of it as "cool." huh.
― josh az (2011nostalgia), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 01:04 (five years ago) link
I have these “cool brand” booklets from the early 2000s that I’ll never junk because they’re such a bizarre artifact of marketing worship. came with some magazine. who picked them? why? it’s this peek into bizarre consumerist cachet
― mh, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 01:35 (five years ago) link
I think this is their current day web presence http://www.coolbrands.uk.com/
― mh, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 01:36 (five years ago) link
‘Desus & Mero’ Stars Ending Their Viceland Show, Eye Deal At Showtime https://t.co/gxBsJTZURH pic.twitter.com/VSJTOsA9BT— Deadline Hollywood (@DEADLINE) June 15, 2018
― mh, Saturday, 16 June 2018 20:51 (five years ago) link
I see we're playing the long game...
Poll Closing Date: Monday, November 2, 2020 7:00 PM (in 2 years)
― Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Sunday, 17 June 2018 02:03 (five years ago) link
the poll is about their four-year agenda
― kelp, clam and carrion (sic), Sunday, 17 June 2018 03:34 (five years ago) link
Best thing on Vice now is nirvanna the band the show. Canadian buddy show set in Toronto - past mockunentaryPart Seinfeld show about nothing. A lot of the mock parts involve pedestrians unaware of what’s going on security staff have tried to thwart the guerilla aryle filming
― sunburst N snowblind (Ross), Monday, 18 June 2018 04:57 (five years ago) link
That’s the sort of post that would ordinarily seem destined to echo out into the void without response but luckily I, also, am a Nirvanna The Band The Show fan.Has there been any progress on s2 reaching non-Canadian audiences via legal channels? Why was there a separate Canadian version of Viceland in the first place?
― You're all losing so many points on your progress bars (Champiness), Monday, 18 June 2018 08:18 (five years ago) link
Also, while I’m here, to maybe try my own hand at a sales pitch: it’s about a two-man band in Toronto who live together and don’t seem to rehearse much, but go to extreme lengths every episode to book a gig at real-life venue The Rivoli (trying seemingly everything, except, for some reason, just calling up the place to do it the normal way). The piano player obviously has 99% of the talent in the group but the vocalist is the ringleader with all the harebrained schemes.Like Ross said it’s mostly shot in real places with real people, apart from scenes back at their house where they come up with the plots. It’s remarkably airtight considering that - they have a knack for getting exactly what they need out of non-actors, and in a way that keeps much of the potential discomfort firmly on themselves. Along with the show’s emphasis on making Toronto feel like Toronto, the impression they create is that two people in this perfectly ordinary city are living a hilarious sitcom life, and we just happen to have cameras trained on them while they fail to gel with their surroundings. It’s really a delight, and probably the reason I keep forgetting that Vice doesn’t actually do all that much else that I like.
― You're all losing so many points on your progress bars (Champiness), Monday, 18 June 2018 08:39 (five years ago) link
Has there been any progress on s2 reaching non-Canadian audiences via legal channels?When was there an issue? It has aired in Australia and is all available for legal streaming
― kelp, clam and carrion (sic), Monday, 18 June 2018 08:44 (five years ago) link
Hmm. For the longest time it wasn’t available in America, at least. But you’re right, it seems to be on iTunes now.Anyway I would strongly encourage even the Vice-averse to give it a shot.
― You're all losing so many points on your progress bars (Champiness), Monday, 18 June 2018 09:21 (five years ago) link
My people
Also the creators rule. Responded to my email re enjoying the show right away. Anyone who grew up in the 90s and has found affection for n64, vhs and genuine throwbacks will dig it
― lost in sublimation (Ross), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 07:39 (five years ago) link
i guess we can close this poll
― maura, Friday, 8 November 2019 17:45 (four years ago) link
We are going to start every week by re-reading this letter. We are going to remember our outrage at this moment and let it fuel our direction over the next four years. We are never going to let ourselves get complacent. We are never going to let the flames of resistance burn out.
i am still doing this, who is with me
― at home in the alternate future, (Karl Malone), Friday, 8 November 2019 17:54 (four years ago) link
threads that aged particularly poorly for the win
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 8 November 2019 18:06 (four years ago) link
or loss
― kanye kendrick frank kendrick frank kanye (voodoo chili), Friday, 8 November 2019 18:07 (four years ago) link
i stand corrected
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 8 November 2019 18:09 (four years ago) link
how has this aged poorly?
― Οὖτις, Friday, 8 November 2019 18:10 (four years ago) link
https://jezebel.com/bosses-at-vice-and-the-fader-ignored-sexual-misconduct-1839636779
― kanye kendrick frank kendrick frank kanye (voodoo chili), Friday, 8 November 2019 18:19 (four years ago) link
yeah, it's aged better than I could have dreamed
― The Mandymoorian (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 8 November 2019 18:27 (four years ago) link
but the fader is so woke, how could this be
― imago, Friday, 8 November 2019 18:37 (four years ago) link
in the sense that this announcement was widely, and rightly, ridiculed for rank hypocrisy, it's aged p goddamn well imo, including in light of recent allegations.
― Οὖτις, Friday, 8 November 2019 18:42 (four years ago) link
i feel like this thread was Bruneau at his best
― sarahell, Friday, 8 November 2019 21:13 (four years ago) link
vice did some workhttps://genderphotos.vice.com/
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 15 June 2020 15:25 (three years ago) link
If the goal is to increase visibility and acceptance of non-binary ppl, why would they otherize them by demanding “Please credit The Gender Spectrum Collection in your captions” as opposed to just crediting Vice.
― The Mandymoorian (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 15 June 2020 15:38 (three years ago) link
Also, this doesn’t mean dogshit unless every one of these models was paid the same rate (or better) as a Getty/iStock model, and, of course there’s no mention of how they were compensated. Another slam dunk brought to you by Shane Smith and neo-liberalism
― The Mandymoorian (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 15 June 2020 15:39 (three years ago) link
Is this entirely their own thing or is it in partnership with Getty/iStock?
― shout-out to his family (DJP), Monday, 15 June 2020 15:49 (three years ago) link
it's about time somebody curated all the genders
― comparing me to Harold Shipman is unfair (Noodle Vague), Monday, 15 June 2020 15:50 (three years ago) link
I just looked and Getty is definitely doing their own thing:
https://www.gettyimages.com/photos/transgender?mediatype=photography&phrase=transgender&sort=mostpopular
― shout-out to his family (DJP), Monday, 15 June 2020 15:52 (three years ago) link
abolish stock photos imo
― budo jeru, Monday, 15 June 2020 15:54 (three years ago) link
eh
stock photos are fine, wider representation in stock photos is fine
Where I'm puzzled re: the Vice project is that the Getty photos I looked at all seem to encompass the same range of experience as the Vice photos with the added benefit of most of them not looking like glossy staged model shots. It feels like they are trying to fill a niche that's already been filled and calling themselves trailblazers. (Obv that position comes with a grain of salt because my default position re: Vice is "fuck them, everything they do has a shitty ulterior motive")
― shout-out to his family (DJP), Monday, 15 June 2020 16:00 (three years ago) link
vice did some work
one of my friends is nonbinary and used to work for vice and... this ain't shit imo
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Monday, 15 June 2020 16:24 (three years ago) link
then again self-awareness and ruthless self-interrogation aren't really the vice brand
Dan, how dare you be cynical about the place that published thishttps://www.vice.com/en_us/article/av759j/the-vice-v11n5
― The Mandymoorian (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 15 June 2020 16:25 (three years ago) link
tbf I'm not going to click on that because I feel I've given Vice enough traffic today already
― shout-out to his family (DJP), Monday, 15 June 2020 16:30 (three years ago) link
I really wish I hadn't clicked that!
― peace, man, Monday, 15 June 2020 16:31 (three years ago) link
how is that still up
just throwing a transphobia/misogyny/general awfulness content warning up
― k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Monday, 15 June 2020 16:33 (three years ago) link
I would ask someone to repost the text but... I think I get the gist based on the reactions
― shout-out to his family (DJP), Monday, 15 June 2020 16:34 (three years ago) link
right there in the third sentence too, really just had to hit that transphobic note immediately xp
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Monday, 15 June 2020 16:35 (three years ago) link
yeah no if yer curious there are ways to get around giving them traffic and still witnessing the horror but there's no part of that that should get c+p'd in here
― k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Monday, 15 June 2020 16:37 (three years ago) link
This is why I will forever dismiss the opinions of all the woke “they’re not like that anymore/that was before I got there” shitheads because this is literally what the brand WAS. Like not even in a “Henry Ford was an anti-Semite” way, because at least Henry Ford made cars. It’s like some neo-folk band going from full Nazi to “we sing about nature now.” Fuck off
― The Mandymoorian (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 15 June 2020 16:43 (three years ago) link
Joanna Fuertes-Knight's newsletters are an interesting read wrt the behind-the-scenes ethics of Vice.
They tried to make her prove in court she's mixed-race as part of her unfair dismissal case.
― ShariVari, Monday, 15 June 2020 16:47 (three years ago) link
I broke down and looked at the Google cache for that link
ugh
― shout-out to his family (DJP), Monday, 15 June 2020 16:59 (three years ago) link