will noisey have moved forward, done the work and fought like fuck?

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So while last week was dark, it's now time to move forward, do the work, and fight like fuck. We're going to fight like fuck for music fans who feel like they don't have a voice in Donald Trump's America. We're going to fight like fuck to give a home to artists willing to speak out against oppression, misogyny, white supremacy, and xenophobia. We're going to fight like fuck to provide an outlet to artists and writers of color, to writers who are women, who are immigrants, who are Muslim, who are working class, and who are members of the LGBTQIA community. We're going to fight like fuck to use our platform here at Noisey to oppose everything Donald Trump and his administration represent. We're going to fight like fuck—because that's all we can do.

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forgive me fader for I have sinned (wins), Saturday, 17 December 2016 11:54 (one year ago) Permalink

I saw excerpts of this floating around Twitter. It's s nice-enough sentiment but I think it's pretty empty without acknowledgment the role Vice played in normalizing/providing a new foundation to all of this nonsense under Gavin's reign.

¶ (DJP), Saturday, 17 December 2016 12:29 (one year ago) Permalink

yeah I think if some other more or less apolitical music blog was suddenly coming on with this kind of inflated insurrectionary rhetoric people wouldn't be making quite so much fun of it (although it would still be kinda silly imo, the impulse is laudable but anyone getting all "this Hype Machine kills fascists" could do with 1x gentle reality check) but coming from this outlet there's an especial lack of self-awareness

forgive me fader for I have sinned (wins), Saturday, 17 December 2016 15:45 (one year ago) Permalink

was just noticing that noisey has essentially abandoned the Vice magazine voice in favour of the universal blogger warmbodies tone

flopson, Saturday, 17 December 2016 15:51 (one year ago) Permalink

FWIW "universal blogger warmbodies" was my favorite Sound Canvas preset

a Warren Beatty film about Earth (El Tomboto), Saturday, 17 December 2016 16:44 (one year ago) Permalink

you do realise this was written by a sometime ilxor who wasn't working at vice years ago when it was what you accuse it of

Cosmic Slop, Saturday, 17 December 2016 17:42 (one year ago) Permalink

waht's a "warmbody" tone

the klosterman weekend (s.clover), Saturday, 17 December 2016 17:47 (one year ago) Permalink

you do realise this was written by a sometime ilxor who wasn't working at vice years ago when it was what you accuse it of

I have little idea who wrote it beyond —The Noisey Editorial Staff but I will assume this person is aware of what it was when it was what it was, so djp's point still stands

forgive me fader for I have sinned (wins), Saturday, 17 December 2016 17:52 (one year ago) Permalink

Isn't it better that it has changed into this? I dont see how that makes any of the points less valid

Cosmic Slop, Saturday, 17 December 2016 17:58 (one year ago) Permalink

https://images.vice.com/noisey/content-images/article/noisey-best-and-worst-of-2015-dan-ozzi/dan-ozzi-best-of.jpg

You know those days you wake up for work and think "I can't do this. I cannot face the filth bucket that is humanity today?" I had one of those this summer and instead of going to an office, I hopped a train to the beach, and sat there all day alone, doing nothing but enjoying the sun and the ocean and listening to this album. I will forever hear it and tie it to that memory. I highly advise you to force yourself off your daily path once in a while.

https://noisey.vice.com/en_us/article/noisey-best-and-worst-of-2015-dan-ozzi

sometimes you fight like fuck, sometimes you just ditch your office job and sit on the beach doing nothing

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 17 December 2016 18:02 (one year ago) Permalink

uuuuugh didn't that guy also do that horrible lecherous celeb interview thing

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Saturday, 17 December 2016 18:06 (one year ago) Permalink

Xp if and when there is evidence of this relentless new direction you are free to vote "yes". I have tried to leave a sufficient window for people to make up their minds

I am pro taking a beach day

forgive me fader for I have sinned (wins), Saturday, 17 December 2016 18:06 (one year ago) Permalink

uuuuugh didn't that guy also do that horrible lecherous celeb interview thing

yeah w/ natalie imbruglia. awful writer

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Saturday, 17 December 2016 18:14 (one year ago) Permalink

performatively

woke

lex pretend, Saturday, 17 December 2016 18:14 (one year ago) Permalink

PAY YOUR WRITERS MORE

lex pretend, Saturday, 17 December 2016 18:14 (one year ago) Permalink

you know what i really resent? outlets calling for more marginalised voices - which mostly means young and inexperienced - and using their experiences for a diversity effect while paying them absolute shit, taking advantage of their lack of knowledge/ability to ask for money they can actually live on

lex pretend, Saturday, 17 December 2016 18:17 (one year ago) Permalink

he didn't mention fighting like fuck to actually pay people

Rock Wokeman (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 17 December 2016 18:18 (one year ago) Permalink

provide a platform and outlet but not, actually, a fair rate of pay

lex pretend, Saturday, 17 December 2016 18:19 (one year ago) Permalink

in fairness to noisey they are far from alone in this

lex pretend, Saturday, 17 December 2016 18:20 (one year ago) Permalink

As I wrote on the other thread

Whiney G. Weingarten
Posted: December 16, 2016 at 8:42:04 PM
My personal favorite part is the open call for Muslims and immigrants to provide them with content, presumably at the same slave wages that Vice writers get

Whiney G. Weingarten, Saturday, 17 December 2016 18:22 (one year ago) Permalink

Isn't it better that it has changed into this? I dont see how that makes any of the points less valid

Yes it is very much better that the millions of dollars made on ironic racism and Terry Richardson blowing loads on teenagers eventually went to self-aggrandinzing woke soapboxing, what a time to be alive

Whiney G. Weingarten, Saturday, 17 December 2016 18:24 (one year ago) Permalink

My friend went to a Vice party in the Aughties and told me the DJ played nothing but Skrewdriver and nobody was the wiser

Now Noisey had articles about how wearing Skrewdriver shirts is problematic. YOUVE COME A LONG WAY BABY

Whiney G. Weingarten, Saturday, 17 December 2016 18:26 (one year ago) Permalink

lol

forgive me fader for I have sinned (wins), Saturday, 17 December 2016 18:35 (one year ago) Permalink

would not assume "nobody was the wiser" tho tbf

forgive me fader for I have sinned (wins), Saturday, 17 December 2016 18:35 (one year ago) Permalink

from the CEO loudly bragging about fucking an intern with two dicks in one rubber to fighting like fuck for marginalized voices, truly this is a sincere battle being fought and not one rooted in the grotesque commerce of mining social justice for capitalism

Whiney G. Weingarten, Saturday, 17 December 2016 18:37 (one year ago) Permalink

haven't music publications been mining social justice for capitalism for a long time? Isn't that part of the Rolling Stone story?

sarahell, Saturday, 17 December 2016 18:39 (one year ago) Permalink

beats me

Whiney G. Weingarten, Saturday, 17 December 2016 18:41 (one year ago) Permalink

you do realise this was written by a sometime ilxor who wasn't working at vice years ago when it was what you accuse it of

― Cosmic Slop, Saturday, 17 December 2016 17:42 Bookmark

wight dorke i knew it

r|t|c, Saturday, 17 December 2016 18:46 (one year ago) Permalink

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who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Saturday, 17 December 2016 18:48 (one year ago) Permalink

actually i dont know if the person im thinking of wrote it, i just saw that person share it

Cosmic Slop, Saturday, 17 December 2016 18:54 (one year ago) Permalink

who works for noisey obviously

Cosmic Slop, Saturday, 17 December 2016 18:54 (one year ago) Permalink

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Whiney G. Weingarten, Saturday, 17 December 2016 18:55 (one year ago) Permalink

lol wight dorke

sarahell, Saturday, 17 December 2016 18:56 (one year ago) Permalink

It wasnt him, i dont know him

Cosmic Slop, Saturday, 17 December 2016 18:58 (one year ago) Permalink

waht's a "warmbody" tone

― the klosterman weekend (s.clover), Saturday, December 17, 2016 12:47 PM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

just like the platitudinous zombified cut-and-dry voice of takes far and wide. like, Vice tone is indistinguishable from salon, huffpo, slate to me now. for all the awful things about 00's-Vice (the ironic racism--at least among hipsters--seems thoroughly out of style but the unironic racism of McInnes seems a throughline to alt-right in hindsight) the writing had a distinct voice. maybe it was ripped off from 90s zines or whatever but it was strongly associated with Vice and the foundation of the brand

on the 'paying workers slave wages' front, they've recently unionized, so, maybe something will happen with that

flopson, Saturday, 17 December 2016 21:07 (one year ago) Permalink

on the 'paying workers slave wages' front, they've recently unionized, so, maybe something will happen with that

This means the staff gets decent salaries, and benefits; their freelance rates are at the low end of average. Each of the 3 stories I've written for them has paid $125. Bandcamp pays 3x that.

Don Van Gorp, midwest regional VP, marketing (誤訳侮辱), Saturday, 17 December 2016 21:16 (one year ago) Permalink

surely the fighting like fuck makes up for it?

Rock Wokeman (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 17 December 2016 21:26 (one year ago) Permalink

http://www.vice.com/en_ca/read/inside-the-sad-world-of-racist-online-dating

this is good content to fight fascism

the klosterman weekend (s.clover), Monday, 19 December 2016 19:55 (one year ago) Permalink

the ironic racism--at least among hipsters--seems thoroughly out of style but the unironic racism of McInnes seems a throughline to alt-right in hindsight)

I mean, this was obvious at the time.

¶ (DJP), Monday, 19 December 2016 20:03 (one year ago) Permalink

Xp "it's hard out there for a racist" hmmm

fuck like fight like fuck (Drugs A. Money), Monday, 19 December 2016 20:13 (one year ago) Permalink

haven't music publications been mining social justice for capitalism for a long time? Isn't that part of the Rolling Stone story?

― sarahell, Saturday, December 17, 2016 12:39 PM (two days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

beats me

― Whiney G. Weingarten, Saturday, December 17, 2016 12:41 PM (two days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol yeah I was going to say, Rolling Stone really hit its stride by providing political commentary of a sort that wasn't widespread AT THE SAME TIME they were pronouncing god status on rock dudes who were fucking fourteen year olds

mh 😏, Monday, 19 December 2016 21:58 (one year ago) Permalink

Much like what Pulp Fiction did with John Travolta in the early 90s, 2016 has thrust white nationalism back to the forefront of our collective psyche, forcing our society to—again, much like Travolta—stare continuously into its insane, twinkling, dead eyes.

thinking aout what lex was saying on the other thread about Vice (well, Noisey) being performatively woke while not actually paying writers well enough to make writing for them worthwhile, but this is more an argument of how you get what you pay for

boxedjoy, Monday, 19 December 2016 22:44 (one year ago) Permalink

Lol I wasn't specifically referring to noisey, though perhaps it also applies

lex pretend, Monday, 19 December 2016 23:43 (one year ago) Permalink

one month passes...

https://noisey.vice.com/en_us/article/welcome-to-the-guide-to-life

smh "start a podcast"

Whiney G. Weingarten, Monday, 23 January 2017 21:40 (one year ago) Permalink

Do You Have Something To Say? Make a Game

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/v0RdU1A7jiQ/maxresdefault.jpg

the greg evigan school of improvised explosive devices (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 23 January 2017 21:51 (one year ago) Permalink

An actually useful guide to life would tell people not to bother doing any of these things

Whiney G. Weingarten, Monday, 23 January 2017 21:59 (one year ago) Permalink

We'll continue publishing explainers on the things you need as you figure out how to live as your best self in this new era.

can i get an over/under on the chances of them publishing an explainer on how to get involved in local politics?

the greg evigan school of improvised explosive devices (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 23 January 2017 22:05 (one year ago) Permalink

not that 'throwing a diy rave' won't shake entrenched power structures to their very core in and of itself but still

the greg evigan school of improvised explosive devices (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 23 January 2017 22:06 (one year ago) Permalink

Ann Sterzinger owns the BLACK PILL SITCOM genre, previously known as dark comedy, embracing the bleakness with a giddy sense of fun.

Erotic Wolf (crüt), Thursday, 19 October 2017 21:01 (one year ago) Permalink

I think if she has managed to resist coming back this board for the past 11 years, this little nostalgia trip won't lure her back.

is it safe to mention b3cky luca5 yet

mookieproof, Thursday, 19 October 2017 21:06 (one year ago) Permalink

Three times in a mirror at night, spit over your shoulder and howwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwl like a werewolf

rb (soda), Thursday, 19 October 2017 21:11 (one year ago) Permalink

maybe Callum will come back too

starving street dogs of punk rock (Odysseus), Thursday, 19 October 2017 21:11 (one year ago) Permalink

anyone to shake us out of our complacent bourgie-liberal torpor ;)

imago, Thursday, 19 October 2017 21:13 (one year ago) Permalink

(n.b. i know ilx isn't very bourgie at all, but these fucks loooove to conflate leftism and social progressivism with wealth for some dumbfuck reason)

imago, Thursday, 19 October 2017 21:14 (one year ago) Permalink

(ghost of calum reappeared briefly when his hugh hefner thread was bumped last week)

mark s, Thursday, 19 October 2017 21:17 (one year ago) Permalink

someone called calum the turrican of his day yesterday on a thread about Suede that calum started back in the day . Turrican was not amused.

starving street dogs of punk rock (Odysseus), Thursday, 19 October 2017 21:28 (one year ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...

and now we fuck

"the fgti incident?" (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 15 November 2017 15:21 (eleven months ago) Permalink

https://www.theawl.com/2017/11/vice-sexual-harassment-story-coming/

Frozen CD, Friday, 17 November 2017 16:16 (eleven months ago) Permalink

Hmm.

Storm’s brewing.

— Kim Kelly (@GrimKim) November 17, 2017

Ned Raggett, Friday, 17 November 2017 18:15 (eleven months ago) Permalink

“We haven’t had any cases of sexual harassment to deal with,” Ashbrooke wrote. (Ashbrooke was vice president of human resources at Harvey Weinstein’s Miramax Films from 1991 to 2000, according to her LinkedIn page, a time when the now-disgraced producer was paying out hundreds of thousands of dollars in legal settlements to squash allegations of sexual harassment and unwanted sexual contact by employees and actresses.)

grim lol

the Hannah Montana of the Korean War (DJP), Friday, 17 November 2017 18:29 (eleven months ago) Permalink

Nancy Ashbrooke
Global HR at VICE
Listens to Barry Manilow
Lives in New York, New York

omar little, Friday, 17 November 2017 18:31 (eleven months ago) Permalink

there's no media company i'd be more delighted to see dragged thru the mud than VICE though it's about a decade and a half overdue, it might be a bit of "closing the barn door after the horse has bolted" as it were.

omar little, Friday, 17 November 2017 18:35 (eleven months ago) Permalink

The update on that Awl story is even nuttier.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 17 November 2017 18:53 (eleven months ago) Permalink

i hope that video leaks, i would like to see it.

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Friday, 17 November 2017 19:04 (eleven months ago) Permalink

can;t wait to see the sad online media circlejerk do the whole "Please hire my talented friend BABY BALLS 69, he is so smart and can do more than rape jokes and exploitative videos on regional rap scenes"

"the fgti incident?" (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 17 November 2017 19:34 (eleven months ago) Permalink

I for one am astonished that an organisation founded by Gavin McInnes and named after the police department that deals with sex crime could be home to sleazy scumbags

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 17 November 2017 20:31 (eleven months ago) Permalink

The clock further ticks.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/vice-sex-harassment-shane-smith_us_5a1063b9e4b045cf4371cbe4

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 22 November 2017 00:14 (ten months ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

We are going to remember our outrage at this moment and let it fuel our direction over the next four years. We are never going to let ourselves get complacent. We are never going to let the flames of resistance burn out.

~~~
A Pleasant Afternoon Being Hungover with Tim Kinsella
https://noisey.vice.com/en_us/article/kzg8ae/first-dates-tim-kinsella-capn-jazz-interview-2017

mag gerwig! (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 6 December 2017 14:54 (ten months ago) Permalink

A better internet is possible. We are going to show you how. Motherboard is building a community internet network at VICE HQ: https://t.co/iwqTueS6IN

— Jason Koebler (@jason_koebler) December 14, 2017

meet the new boss

mookieproof, Thursday, 14 December 2017 21:46 (ten months ago) Permalink

one month passes...

https://www.emergelv.com/

Nothing like having a $125-a-head conference in the American capitalism fever dream city with topics like "SPEAKING TRUTH TO POWER" and "WELCOME TO THE UNDERGROUND"

Whiney G. Weingarten, Monday, 5 February 2018 19:06 (eight months ago) Permalink

$125 for a conference in LV seems impossibly cheap tbh

mh, Monday, 5 February 2018 19:32 (eight months ago) Permalink

Can't imagine paying $485 for "direct access to talent" like OK Go

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Monday, 5 February 2018 20:17 (eight months ago) Permalink

four months pass...

there's so much in this story, but this bit made me think of this thread:

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2018/06/inside-vice-media-shane-smith.html

"While Viceland also has a younger audience than many networks, its average age is still 42, which has had the effect of both expanding and aging Vice’s demographic. This was more than a small problem for a company whose entire selling proposition was its ability to reach a young audience. Over the years, Vice has proclaimed itself the voice of Generations X, then Y, and now Z, the youngest of whom don’t identify with the punk tenor of the company’s origins. Vice’s audience still skews male, and a loyal chunk still lingers from the company’s more macho days. (A Vice staffer told me it was relatively easy to get access to law enforcement: 'Nobody loves Vice more than cops.') In a meeting just before Donald Trump’s inauguration, Eddy Moretti warned the editors of Vice’s websites against leading an editorial resistance and offered a confusing proposition that may have put the final stake in Old Vice, suggesting that 'we might want to develop the Vice version of David Brooks.'"

maura, Monday, 11 June 2018 16:55 (four months ago) Permalink

https://i.imgur.com/WwGFxNk.jpg

obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Monday, 11 June 2018 17:19 (four months ago) Permalink

I fell for the "late gen-xers selling transgression to early millenials" bullshit for about a minute fifteen years ago, then fell for the fake respectability they tried a few years after that. Since then, these people have occasionally published or produced the rare thing that's mildly entertaining but each article or show I enjoyed could have easily been put out by a different group with no real change because none of them really felt that linked to their branding

someone get Desus & Mero a HBO contract or something

mh, Monday, 11 June 2018 17:52 (four months ago) Permalink

A 2017 report funded by Google found that among 122 brands, teenagers found Vice to be the second-least cool, less than Yahoo, the Sunglass Hut, and JCPenney

oh man

mh, Monday, 11 June 2018 18:03 (four months ago) Permalink

Nothing's less cool than the try-too-hards.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 11 June 2018 18:05 (four months ago) Permalink

lol @ google polling how uncool yahoo is

Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 11 June 2018 19:55 (four months ago) Permalink

Vice should die in a fire

Οὖτις, Monday, 11 June 2018 19:57 (four months ago) Permalink

by all rights Vice should have an all-conquering, dumb-ass podcast network by now

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 11 June 2018 20:37 (four months ago) Permalink

they don't have a bench of actual interesting personalities, nor do they really have enough depth on any specific topics

I mean, plenty of podcasts find success without either, but it ties back to the problem that their brand has no ethos. I mean, what's their hook, that they're edgy?

mh, Monday, 11 June 2018 20:45 (four months ago) Permalink

the tagline on vice.com is VICE - Original reporting and documentaries on everything that matters in the world.

so they're CNN only they're, like, cool if you're 40 and a dude who used to do too much coke?

mh, Monday, 11 June 2018 20:47 (four months ago) Permalink

someone get Desus & Mero a HBO contract or something

― mh, Monday, June 11, 2018 5:52 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

otm

bernard snowy, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 00:13 (four months ago) Permalink

i liked the edgy vice of my youth, even though it's aged terribly those were quality LOLs that i cherish. the company's identity crisis is something to behold for sure and almost everything it does completely sucks but i think there is a potentially good version of vice out there that i like to imagine sometimes

flopson, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 00:29 (four months ago) Permalink

I just looked up that Google report that put Vice at 2nd least cool among teens - it has YouTube at #1 on its cool graph? I knew YouTube was popular with the kids but I can't say I've ever thought of it as "cool." huh.

josh az (2011nostalgia), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 01:04 (four months ago) Permalink

I have these “cool brand” booklets from the early 2000s that I’ll never junk because they’re such a bizarre artifact of marketing worship. came with some magazine. who picked them? why? it’s this peek into bizarre consumerist cachet

mh, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 01:35 (four months ago) Permalink

I think this is their current day web presence http://www.coolbrands.uk.com/

mh, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 01:36 (four months ago) Permalink

‘Desus & Mero’ Stars Ending Their Viceland Show, Eye Deal At Showtime https://t.co/gxBsJTZURH pic.twitter.com/VSJTOsA9BT

— Deadline Hollywood (@DEADLINE) June 15, 2018



well, I was close

mh, Saturday, 16 June 2018 20:51 (four months ago) Permalink

I see we're playing the long game...

Poll Closing Date: Monday, November 2, 2020 7:00 PM (in 2 years)

Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Sunday, 17 June 2018 02:03 (four months ago) Permalink

the poll is about their four-year agenda

kelp, clam and carrion (sic), Sunday, 17 June 2018 03:34 (four months ago) Permalink

Best thing on Vice now is nirvanna the band the show. Canadian buddy show set in Toronto - past mockunentary
Part Seinfeld show about nothing. A lot of the mock parts involve pedestrians unaware of what’s going on security staff have tried to thwart the guerilla aryle filming

sunburst N snowblind (Ross), Monday, 18 June 2018 04:57 (four months ago) Permalink

That’s the sort of post that would ordinarily seem destined to echo out into the void without response but luckily I, also, am a Nirvanna The Band The Show fan.
Has there been any progress on s2 reaching non-Canadian audiences via legal channels? Why was there a separate Canadian version of Viceland in the first place?

You're all losing so many points on your progress bars (Champiness), Monday, 18 June 2018 08:18 (four months ago) Permalink

Also, while I’m here, to maybe try my own hand at a sales pitch: it’s about a two-man band in Toronto who live together and don’t seem to rehearse much, but go to extreme lengths every episode to book a gig at real-life venue The Rivoli (trying seemingly everything, except, for some reason, just calling up the place to do it the normal way). The piano player obviously has 99% of the talent in the group but the vocalist is the ringleader with all the harebrained schemes.
Like Ross said it’s mostly shot in real places with real people, apart from scenes back at their house where they come up with the plots. It’s remarkably airtight considering that - they have a knack for getting exactly what they need out of non-actors, and in a way that keeps much of the potential discomfort firmly on themselves. Along with the show’s emphasis on making Toronto feel like Toronto, the impression they create is that two people in this perfectly ordinary city are living a hilarious sitcom life, and we just happen to have cameras trained on them while they fail to gel with their surroundings. It’s really a delight, and probably the reason I keep forgetting that Vice doesn’t actually do all that much else that I like.

You're all losing so many points on your progress bars (Champiness), Monday, 18 June 2018 08:39 (four months ago) Permalink

Has there been any progress on s2 reaching non-Canadian audiences via legal channels?

When was there an issue? It has aired in Australia and is all available for legal streaming

kelp, clam and carrion (sic), Monday, 18 June 2018 08:44 (four months ago) Permalink

Hmm. For the longest time it wasn’t available in America, at least. But you’re right, it seems to be on iTunes now.
Anyway I would strongly encourage even the Vice-averse to give it a shot.

You're all losing so many points on your progress bars (Champiness), Monday, 18 June 2018 09:21 (four months ago) Permalink

My people

Also the creators rule. Responded to my email re enjoying the show right away. Anyone who grew up in the 90s and has found affection for n64, vhs and genuine throwbacks will dig it

lost in sublimation (Ross), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 07:39 (four months ago) Permalink


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