I'd agree w/that if yr talking about recent-build Fenders & Gibsons for sure, really no reason to buy one of those. classic Gibsons I will stan for they sound f'in' awesome.
― though she denies it to the press, (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Sunday, 27 November 2016 12:43 (seven years ago) link
We are in agreement!
― Three Word Username, Sunday, 27 November 2016 13:11 (seven years ago) link
BUT -- 'cause you knew that was coming -- the air gets rare fast with the good old instruments in terms of price. I'm a bass dude and watch that world more; there aren't a whole lot of undiscovered good Gibson models out there these days, and the ones I like are prone to headstock breakage. I still covet a Epiphone Embassy a lot, but as the prices approach $5k for one with an unbroken headstock, I look at what's out there for $4k from some starving genius and wonder if the coveting is a little silly.
― Three Word Username, Sunday, 27 November 2016 13:34 (seven years ago) link
I've found a good strategy is buying Mexican made Fenders and then with the hundreds of dollars saved spend a little more on upgrading pickups and electronics. I have a Mexican Tele and a Mexican Strat with great Fralin pick-ups, and an Epi Les Paul with Lollar noise-cancelling P-90s. Each guitar probably cost around $400, max, then I independently spent a little extra on the upgrades. (I also have an SG, a '61 reissue, but I play that the least.)
My fave guitar was a '52 reissue American-made 1993 Tele (1993 being a great year, for some reason - maybe the custom shop guys were still involved more?) that got stolen. It had Fralin pickups, too, and sounded awesome, and was weirdly light as well (relatively speaking).
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 27 November 2016 15:06 (seven years ago) link
Hm, I've been pretty happy with the Cherry Dot ES-335 I picked up three years ago. Is there a less expensive version you guys prefer?
― Spiritual Hat Minimalism (Sund4r), Monday, 28 November 2016 03:19 (seven years ago) link
I don't know what you paid, and I don't have your instrument in front of me. But this thing is a monster with breathtaking workmanship: http://www.schwarz-custom.de/cardinal.html
― Three Word Username, Monday, 28 November 2016 14:09 (seven years ago) link
Isn't the Gibson company really shitty politically too?
― blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 28 November 2016 15:27 (seven years ago) link
as of late yep. read lots of stuff about disgruntled employees and management basically running the company into the ground
― global tetrahedron, Monday, 28 November 2016 15:30 (seven years ago) link
This is way too good to just talk about on IMM: Gibson Guitars supremely embarrassing Tea Party pandering "Government Series"
― a but (brimstead), Monday, 28 November 2016 15:34 (seven years ago) link
I refuse to vote in this until the options are changed to S-500 vs ASAT
― Here, let me Danesplain that for you (jjjusten), Monday, 28 November 2016 17:36 (seven years ago) link
Also yes Gibson is a horrible company both on the political side, and to work for.
― Here, let me Danesplain that for you (jjjusten), Monday, 28 November 2016 17:37 (seven years ago) link
I've played an American Standard Tele and it was the best guitar I played in my life. It's just so transparent - every tiny nuance of your fingers comes right through, in a good way. You can make it sound like anything you want. Strats never felt right to me and they sounded generic in comparison.
― the_ecuador_three, Monday, 28 November 2016 17:49 (seven years ago) link
That's an unfortunate logo. Who wants SCHVATZ on their headstock?
― dinnerboat, Monday, 28 November 2016 19:59 (seven years ago) link
Shvar
― F♯ A♯ (∞), Monday, 28 November 2016 20:08 (seven years ago) link
Starting price on that thing is $4454 US, which by my estimates is around double what I've spent in my entire life on musical gear in total - and this includes my recent extravagant splurge (for me) on a 1978 Princeton Reverb.
― joygoat, Monday, 28 November 2016 21:15 (seven years ago) link
man those things look NICE.
― though she denies it to the press, (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Monday, 28 November 2016 21:16 (seven years ago) link
x-post: I believe it, joygoat, and there's no shame in that -- I'm just saying compare the Schwarz with a new Gibson ES 335 around the same price (and they make a couple that are more expensive) and the Gibson comes off looking very, very bad.
― Three Word Username, Monday, 28 November 2016 21:26 (seven years ago) link
JC: I've only touched the guitars, but I've played the basses. They are all that.
― Three Word Username, Monday, 28 November 2016 21:28 (seven years ago) link
That's an unfortunate logo.
Schwanz?
― darling you were wonderful you really were quite good (snoball), Monday, 28 November 2016 21:42 (seven years ago) link
Yeah, Gibson is shit politically and environmentally, and I would have probably shopped around more if I knew what I know now. (I think the whole classical guitar industry is a little problematic environmentally tbh, as an aside.) The Schwarz definitely costs more than what my Gibson did, if I'm reading the price right, but I'm definitely going to want to check one out if you're saying it puts the 335 to shame!
― Spiritual Hat Minimalism (Sund4r), Monday, 28 November 2016 21:45 (seven years ago) link
Check this out, S: http://www.leonardo-guitar-research.com/
― Three Word Username, Monday, 28 November 2016 21:48 (seven years ago) link
Whoa, thanks. I just bought one less than a year ago, and it was 40 years old so at least no new trees were cut down for it, but I'll definitely remember that.
― Spiritual Hat Minimalism (Sund4r), Monday, 28 November 2016 21:49 (seven years ago) link
I'd also take a serious look at Heritage as a modern Gibson alternative.
― Here, let me Danesplain that for you (jjjusten), Monday, 28 November 2016 22:07 (seven years ago) link
http://heritageguitar.com
― Here, let me Danesplain that for you (jjjusten), Monday, 28 November 2016 22:08 (seven years ago) link
https://cdn.meme.am/cache/instances/folder464/54312464.jpg
― marzipandemonium (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 29 November 2016 00:42 (seven years ago) link
i play a tele. I've never liked strats. that's all.
― akm, Tuesday, 29 November 2016 00:47 (seven years ago) link
i've heard nothing but good things about heritage but damn those headstocks are hideous
having said that, i've just acquired a prs s2 starla and totally fallen in love with it after previously regarding prses as the tools of ponytailed session men, rich assholes and carlos santana so my judgement may well be impaired
― trump le monde (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 29 November 2016 17:57 (seven years ago) link
prses as the tools of ponytailed session men, rich assholes and carlos santana
so OTM. I just recoil at ridiculously colored quilted maple tops and those stupid bird inlays.
The starla isn't bad looking though.
― joygoat, Tuesday, 29 November 2016 18:12 (seven years ago) link
years ago i saw a £5k prs on the wall of a guitar store that had a ridiculously ornate flame top covered with a turquoise-to-purple burst. it was genuinely traumatic
― trump le monde (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 29 November 2016 18:22 (seven years ago) link
EBay and Reverb are filled with the broken dreams of partcaster builds. You can sometimes get $800 worth of parts for like $300. You open it up and realize the reason it sounded like a turd was soldered wrong.
― earlnash, Tuesday, 29 November 2016 18:24 (seven years ago) link
Really like the new FSR Tele Standard in white opal, going for about 500
― Master of Treacle, Tuesday, 29 November 2016 18:52 (seven years ago) link
the site Adorama often has crazy deals on Standard USA Strats and Teles (esp Strats with 2 singles and a humbucker on the bridge, which tbh might be kinda nice)
― blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 29 November 2016 19:42 (seven years ago) link
― Here, let me Danesplain that for you (jjjusten), Monday, November 28, 2016 12:36 PM (two days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Shit, the S-500. And of course, add Marissa Paternoster to the "strat" players list.
― how's life, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 19:15 (seven years ago) link
http://loopvideos.com/ilroTI32p5s?from=10&to=18
― ciderpress, Thursday, 8 December 2016 22:47 (seven years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.
― System, Friday, 9 December 2016 00:01 (seven years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.
― System, Saturday, 10 December 2016 00:01 (seven years ago) link
The correct answer!
― Working night & day, I tried to stay awake... (Turrican), Saturday, 10 December 2016 00:02 (seven years ago) link
Indeed.
― Austin, Saturday, 10 December 2016 00:39 (seven years ago) link
I feel like I'm taking crazy pills!
― flappy bird, Saturday, 10 December 2016 01:42 (seven years ago) link
yesssss
― attention vampire (MatthewK), Saturday, 10 December 2016 03:05 (seven years ago) link
Absolutely the correct answer.
― Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 10 December 2016 09:56 (seven years ago) link
While I voted otherwise, I understand and respect the outcome; further, I am not surprised given what I know of ilx0rz.
I own and love both, and I certainly have gone through Telemoods that lasted years.
― troops in djibouti (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 12 December 2016 00:13 (seven years ago) link
You know both would lose to a Jazzmaster if polled so here.
― earlnash, Monday, 12 December 2016 01:39 (seven years ago) link
The correct answer to that poll is Telecaster and Jazzmaster.https://c5.staticflickr.com/6/5509/14363665828_193718576f_h.jpg
― attention vampire (MatthewK), Monday, 12 December 2016 11:41 (seven years ago) link
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v283/eupat/DSCN5312.jpg
― Rush Limbaugh and Lou Reed doing sex with your parents (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 12 December 2016 12:42 (seven years ago) link
The offset body with Tele-style controls looks quite righteous. Not crazy about the three-saddle bridge but I applaud the purity of vision.
― troops in djibouti (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 12 December 2016 15:00 (seven years ago) link
hardtail offsets always look kinda wrong to me
needs a floyd rose tremelo obv
― Rush Limbaugh and Lou Reed doing sex with your parents (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 12 December 2016 15:17 (seven years ago) link
here's another hybrid thing fender did, kind of a stratotelecaster
http://www.multumguitars.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/Fender-Classic-Player-Triple-Telecaster.jpg
― blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 12 December 2016 16:47 (seven years ago) link
amazing how much uglier that is than a regular tele when all they've done is angle the neck pickup and add a middle one
― Rush Limbaugh and Lou Reed doing sex with your parents (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 12 December 2016 16:50 (seven years ago) link
yeah it's odd...though i read some reviews that sounded cool, like it's a 5-way switch like a strat, the neck pick up supposedly sounds pretty "tele" and it gets more strat farther back could be potentially interesting but not a real pretty guitar
― blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 12 December 2016 17:00 (seven years ago) link