Faith No More: Classic or Dud

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so what do ya think> i think that once they got mike patton, they were fuckin classic, all the way up until that last album

mirth, Thursday, 17 May 2001 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

I think that band always sucked... pure suckage. Their breakthrough hit is completely dorky, they were really cheesy, and that's why they're almost completely forgotten now, except in the hearts of slightly embarrassed early-20's girls who will grudgingly admit to being fans when they were 14. Classic? No Way.

swelle, Friday, 18 May 2001 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

you dont know shit swelle. and why are u judging them on the basis of their "breakthrough hit" like fucking vh-1? even though epic is an underrated song. but the angel dust album is their best- the best release of '92. no one has forgotten faith no more,those who know love them...

jack, Saturday, 19 May 2001 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Angel Dust is the shit. So for that Classic.

Omar, Saturday, 19 May 2001 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

angel dust is a fine album, the others patchy but often inspired.

they were a fucking septic cyst at the base of the regularly-flaccid cock of heavy metal back in the 90s. i only hope the viral nastiness contained within their best grooves will ultimate choke the living shit uot of the big-shorted cunts who stole their sound and left their intellect, their creativity, their grandiose sense of the ridiculous and their utterly hateful sense of morality cowering in a corner.

stevie, Saturday, 19 May 2001 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Uh, right. I love The Real Thing, I don't really like anything else by them.

Patrick, Saturday, 19 May 2001 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

I liked them a lot more when they had their original vocalist Chuck Moseley or whatever he was called. Mike Patton's vocals kinda spoilt it a bit.

Eamonn, Saturday, 19 May 2001 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

one year passes...
Ah, FNM. I am a closet Faith No More fan (ah...) anyway, I was a closet Faith No More fan, only of the early stuff mind. For what they gained with Patton's appointment, was offset by the loon edge that went out the door with Mosely. Although Patton is arguably a loon also... I guess I just prefer Mosely's vocal deficiencies which for some reason are right on the money with me.

That 'Big' Jim Martin was an ignorant redneck puts me off the band a little though he sure as hell hit the buttons when they get it right (that he compliments Roddy on the synths so well surprises me since apparently he couldn't hack Bottum's sexuality) but anything post Angel Dusk is unlistenable shite... Hmmm, thinkng about it, I think I am a victim of a nostalgia trip when it comes to these boys...

Anyway, 'Faster Disco' is the absolute joint, can't get enough of it man - that breakdown and the way they build it back in again with those la la vocals hits me where it hurts, but in a good way.

And with Patton, I'm up for From Out Of Nowhere and Land of Sunshine (what is it about their lead tracks?), although Everything's Ruined is the one off Dust.

Roger Fascist, Tuesday, 30 July 2002 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

not classic in a beard scratching sense obviously.however they were quite fun and wrote some songs which were perfect for falling around to in a drunken stupor at your local indie/rock disco.

declan mccann, Friday, 2 August 2002 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

six years pass...

Only just seen the terrific I Started a Joke video:

chap, Saturday, 21 February 2009 13:40 (eight years ago) Permalink

haha @ "Michael from Barnsley"

Whiney G. Weingarten, Saturday, 21 February 2009 16:46 (eight years ago) Permalink

Hey, we're Faith No More & we're reuniting for a tour. Sorry, but we have absolutely no intention of setting foot on US soil, kthxbye.

2 ears + 1 ❤ (Pillbox), Tuesday, 24 February 2009 18:53 (eight years ago) Permalink

Guy who wrote the article is a cloth-eared Bungle/Fantomas-hating philistine but I am even more amped for Crank 2 now

I want sprinkles (country matters), Tuesday, 24 February 2009 18:58 (eight years ago) Permalink

one year passes...

wtf I can't believe I missed Chuck Mosley show up and perform with FNM in SF this spring.

akm, Monday, 13 September 2010 22:37 (seven years ago) Permalink

three years pass...

Listening now to the We Care A Lot album for the first time, something I never did at the height of their fame or anytime since. It sounds very "1985," but in ways that don't make it seem 29 years old? I dunno. FNM is/was a weird band that despite sometimes clunky songwriting, often dated production and general corniness manages to escape the era in which they existed pretty cleanly.

I still prefer Patton as the singer over Chuck Mosley, but this shit's great.

Johnny Fever, Sunday, 15 June 2014 07:12 (three years ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

I'm trying really hard not to build up my hopes over the possiblity of a new album now.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Saturday, 5 July 2014 18:14 (three years ago) Permalink

Get the Motherfucker On the Phone (I'm assuming that's what it's called) is pretty damn catchy.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Saturday, 5 July 2014 18:25 (three years ago) Permalink

I knew they were new!

The Littlest Boho (stevie), Saturday, 5 July 2014 22:54 (three years ago) Permalink

They were just killer on Friday.

The Littlest Boho (stevie), Saturday, 5 July 2014 22:54 (three years ago) Permalink

I became a fan last year after watching this vid, posted somewhere on this borad

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZfr2QMk3Fc

rip van wanko, Sunday, 6 July 2014 01:30 (three years ago) Permalink

Realllly want a US tour.

Immediate Follower (NA), Sunday, 6 July 2014 02:37 (three years ago) Permalink

Seriously! Still kicking myself for missing them last time.

cwkiii, Monday, 7 July 2014 15:20 (three years ago) Permalink

they'd better come to canada this time

borntohula, Tuesday, 8 July 2014 01:34 (three years ago) Permalink

four months pass...

me too

Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, 19 November 2014 22:22 (three years ago) Permalink

You fucking wrote it you mook. (Well not the song, but you know...)

Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Wednesday, 19 November 2014 22:22 (three years ago) Permalink

It's cool, can't help but think it'd be better if Patton did the verse vox as well though.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Wednesday, 19 November 2014 22:24 (three years ago) Permalink

I love the downward spiralling outro.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Wednesday, 19 November 2014 22:25 (three years ago) Permalink

this is way better than i ever would have expected

also is the dude on the right jim martin???

i did it all for the 'nuki (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 19 November 2014 22:38 (three years ago) Permalink

err far left i mean....stage right! (good cover ums)

i did it all for the 'nuki (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 19 November 2014 22:43 (three years ago) Permalink

Not Jim Martin. They hate him. Which saddens me.

Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Wednesday, 19 November 2014 22:48 (three years ago) Permalink

Yeah but bit of a homophobic prick by all accounts so fair enough on their part.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Wednesday, 19 November 2014 22:49 (three years ago) Permalink

I have hope this will be a rare not completely boring 90s rock band reunion record

Simon H., Wednesday, 19 November 2014 22:59 (three years ago) Permalink

Playing guitar with Infectious Grooves instead of Faith No More seems like proper punishment.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 19 November 2014 23:06 (three years ago) Permalink

I have a certain degree of faith (pun intended) in the new album; the new song is solid, and Patton's been on decent form recently (the latest Tomahawk album is terrific).

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Thursday, 20 November 2014 00:23 (three years ago) Permalink

also is the dude on the right jim martin???

It looks to me like Billy Bob Thornton.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Thursday, 20 November 2014 00:24 (three years ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_iNK0mBKrQ

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 20 November 2014 01:11 (three years ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5b2OHDIEwQs

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 20 November 2014 01:23 (three years ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bV0QnVIiZk

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 20 November 2014 01:24 (three years ago) Permalink

I remember watching this live and laughing so hard.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-4CcgA1Upo

It's A Living! (Old Lunch), Thursday, 20 November 2014 02:35 (three years ago) Permalink

There was a stretch of time when FNM were my favorite band, and I love all of the Mike albums to varying degrees. That said, not totally sold on the new song.

It's A Living! (Old Lunch), Thursday, 20 November 2014 02:36 (three years ago) Permalink

Just spent the morning watching this incredible show when I should've been working. No regrets.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-WvTieSyEI

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Thursday, 20 November 2014 11:30 (three years ago) Permalink

Puffy is such an awesome drummer.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 20 November 2014 14:39 (three years ago) Permalink

I didn't like the last Tomahawk album, but I kind of like this. I can imagine it wearing thin quickly, but it's still a hell of a lot better than I expected.

afriendlypioneer, Thursday, 20 November 2014 14:49 (three years ago) Permalink

This new song's getting some shit but I rather like it, especially if you take it as an intro track as intended rather than a lead single or something. I'm not the hugest FNM fan but I'm still pretty excited for the new album when it drops.

Barry Manowar (ultros ultros-ghali), Saturday, 22 November 2014 02:32 (three years ago) Permalink

four months pass...

got my ticket to the Atlanta show. who else is catching this tour?

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Friday, 10 April 2015 00:14 (two years ago) Permalink

HOLLA :D

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 10 April 2015 01:41 (two years ago) Permalink

20th in SF

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 10 April 2015 01:41 (two years ago) Permalink

http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/20339-sol-invictus/

haven't read it yet but kinda interesting how pitchfork was (kinda surprisingly) very vocal about recontextualizing faith no more for the current generation (the interview, saw a thing or two on the pitch, etc), and yet the actual album comes out and gets a pan or at least something far beneath a recommendation

soyrev, Tuesday, 19 May 2015 15:17 (two years ago) Permalink

"recontextualizing faith no more for the current generation" = "creating a tenuous strawman of homophobic metal fans that only the enlightened touch of [endemically racist] indie rock can crash through...as a metaphor"

Fucking please.

dadbod moghadam (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 19 May 2015 15:22 (two years ago) Permalink

Pretty sure he just means introducing a band to an audience that wasn't born yet when their last album came out but ok

Immediate Follower (NA), Tuesday, 19 May 2015 15:31 (two years ago) Permalink

Immediate Follower otm, tbh i don't even really understand what you're accusing that phrase of. all i mean is i'm not the youngest p4k reader (27 next week) and if it weren't for me having done a live review of their reuion gig in philly like 5 years ago (for which i listened to everything they've ever released 'cause that's how i do~) i would know them only as "the 'epic' band."

soyrev, Tuesday, 19 May 2015 15:44 (two years ago) Permalink

i got the album and gave it two listens. still haven't formed a solid opinion but I'd lean more to the 7.0 score myself. I do kinda feel like this is the type of album FNM could make in their sleep, but that shouldn't inherently be a detriment.

My concern is that the album seems like it may be a collection of good, if not great songs. I do think Hudson is much improved here. He's kind of like Emmitt Smith in that he takes what the band gives him rather than guiding anything, but stylistically he has more flare here and isn't so much a plodding dinosaur chugging out generic riffs.

I don't care so much about the lack of genre mashups like other people (I'd go more to Patton's 'other' band for that), but this probably will wind up somewhere in the middle of the pantheon for me.

but w/e either way, I'm glad to have them back.

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Tuesday, 19 May 2015 16:15 (two years ago) Permalink

the phrase "asian melodies" in the pitchfork feature seems, um, weird to me

NotKnowPotato (stevie), Tuesday, 19 May 2015 19:09 (two years ago) Permalink

yeah i'm sort of already psyched for them to make another album, but this record's really good

insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Tuesday, 19 May 2015 19:32 (two years ago) Permalink

I'm digging it! It's def meat and potatoes FNM but I admire when bands come back and just do what they do (like Mission of Burma or Dino Jr comebacks)....

the album title gives me a bit of neofolk heebie jeebies, which could be a coincidence but something tells me Patton is the type of guy who knows who Tony Wakeford is :/

kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 19 May 2015 19:56 (two years ago) Permalink

I think there's more weirdness buried in this record than a lot of people are saying.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Tuesday, 19 May 2015 20:00 (two years ago) Permalink

[put this on the other FNM thread, not realising this was the current one - apologies for double-posting) but my Faith No More feature is in the new issue of MOJO, the one with Fleetwood Mac on the cover. Buy it! Magazines are great!!
https://scontent.cdninstagram.com/hphotos-xaf1/t51.2885-15/e15/11350981_1609890965916481_969707631_n.jpg

NotKnowPotato (stevie), Monday, 25 May 2015 09:13 (two years ago) Permalink

Nice!

kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 25 May 2015 13:06 (two years ago) Permalink

o/

dadbod moghadam (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 25 May 2015 16:29 (two years ago) Permalink

I like it as well as anythying else they did post Angel Dust (which I think is one of the greatest albums of the 90's). To be honest I haven't listened that much to the other post AD records, and this sounds just like those. It's perfectly fine.

akm, Monday, 25 May 2015 19:28 (two years ago) Permalink

motherfucker reminds me equally of beck's truck driving neighbours downstairs and the pointer sisters' how long (betcha got a chick on the side)

NotKnowPotato (stevie), Monday, 25 May 2015 22:46 (two years ago) Permalink

first listen. Matador the stand-out but plenty of good stuff here I think.

Keith Moom (Neil S), Wednesday, 27 May 2015 18:47 (two years ago) Permalink

Matador, Cone of Shame and Separation Anxiety are the stand-outs for me.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Wednesday, 27 May 2015 22:07 (two years ago) Permalink

Can anybody point to an interview or article that goes into the title track from The Real Thing at all? By far my favorite FNM song, but I haven't really seen the band members talk about it, I don't think.

what sounds 'cutting cheese' in 2015? (how's life), Tuesday, 2 June 2015 14:30 (two years ago) Permalink

got both REal Thing and Angel Dust reissues.

main diff I hear with Angel Dust reissue is that there's more separation between the layers...Jim Martin's riffs are more clear in parts where they were typically obscured a little by the keyboards. and they definitely have a bit more bite. some more separation on the keyboards so that in a few areas I can hear things I didn't previously. but really I'm more stoked for the 2nd disc.

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Wednesday, 10 June 2015 02:30 (two years ago) Permalink

listening to the AD extras disc now, the odds and sods are all pretty great, not least As the Worm Turns, a bit of a minor lost classic IMO

Keith Moom (Neil S), Wednesday, 10 June 2015 11:12 (two years ago) Permalink

The Pitchfork review of the reissues is the best writing I've seen on FNM this press cycle.

Immediate Follower (NA), Wednesday, 10 June 2015 15:00 (two years ago) Permalink

I love Angel Dust too. I saw Faith No More for my first ever rock show, playing with Guns N' Roses and Soundgarden at Wembley!

maybe/whatever/so what/boring (admrl), Wednesday, 10 June 2015 15:09 (two years ago) Permalink

ATWT is not lost they are currently playing it live!

Cory Sklar, Wednesday, 10 June 2015 15:16 (two years ago) Permalink

hah fair enough!

Keith Moom (Neil S), Wednesday, 10 June 2015 15:29 (two years ago) Permalink

The live tracks on the reissue are so good

Immediate Follower (NA), Wednesday, 10 June 2015 20:56 (two years ago) Permalink

I'm a bit disappointed by the live tracks - search out their 1992 show at Sheffield Arena or Phoenix Festival in 1993 (their final show w/Jim), which should be quite easy to find online: both have better sound quality and Patton is lunatic throughout.

I'm a bit disappointed by the bonus tracks as a whole, really, most of which are previously-released B-side stuff - what ever happened to demos, out-takes, etc? Like, I would love to hear what the Real Thing songs sounded like when the band played them to Patton at his audition - I feel Warners just couldn't quite be bothered to do that level of research and just wanted to cash in on FNM as their reunion hit its peak.

That Patton-vocaled As The Worm Turns is a cracker, though.

ONE OF THEM FUCKING JESUS (stevie), Thursday, 11 June 2015 08:54 (two years ago) Permalink

Since the band had nothing to do with the re-releases I assume access to early demos and the like were probably not available. The label cashed in on what they had.

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 11 June 2015 12:47 (two years ago) Permalink

I had the feeling that that was the case.

ONE OF THEM FUCKING JESUS (stevie), Thursday, 11 June 2015 13:11 (two years ago) Permalink

You have less than 30 hours left to watch this (if there's no IP filtering, I don't know)

http://concert.arte.tv/fr/faith-no-more-au-hellfest

Hellfest, 20/06/2015

Motherfucker
Be Aggressive
Caffeine
Evidence
Epic
Black Friday
Everything's Ruined
Midlife Crisis (incl. Boz Scaggs "Lowdown" breakdown)
The Gentle Art of Making Enemies
Easy (Commodores cover)
Separation Anxiety
Cuckoo for Caca
Matador
Ashes to Ashes
Superhero

Cone of Shame
We Care a Lot
This Guy's in Love With You (Burt Bacharach cover)

StanM, Monday, 22 June 2015 17:16 (two years ago) Permalink

thanks!

like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Monday, 22 June 2015 17:19 (two years ago) Permalink

the opening of Be Aggressive raised the hair on my neck

like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Monday, 22 June 2015 17:23 (two years ago) Permalink

oh, they've changed the date - it'll now be online until Dec 24th

StanM, Tuesday, 23 June 2015 15:52 (two years ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...

separation anxiety particularly amazing imo

transparent play for gifs (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 15 July 2015 21:12 (two years ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

oh cool. that one's one of my favs from the newie

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Thursday, 30 July 2015 12:06 (two years ago) Permalink

seeing them tonight with...REfused!

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Thursday, 30 July 2015 12:07 (two years ago) Permalink

They're being supported by Napalm Death on some dates!

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Thursday, 30 July 2015 13:25 (two years ago) Permalink

oh wow...that would be killer

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Thursday, 30 July 2015 13:39 (two years ago) Permalink

Mike could guest on You Suffer!

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Thursday, 30 July 2015 13:39 (two years ago) Permalink

two years pass...

BRUSH WITH FAME, Faith No More edition: A friend and I went to the Ted Leo show in Cleveland (for the 25th anniversary of local venue the Grog Shop). While we were there we ran into a woman we know who works at the restaurant in our office building, and she introduced us to her boyfriend of three decades, who happens to be Chuck Mosley. He was really cool, hung around and chatted with us for a while after the show. He also got on stage with one of the opening bands, Falling Stars, and sang "Every Day Is Like Sunday."

Monster fatberg (Phil D.), Monday, 25 September 2017 15:00 (one month ago) Permalink

Thats awesome!

how's life, Monday, 25 September 2017 15:17 (one month ago) Permalink

wow!

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 25 September 2017 17:03 (one month ago) Permalink

chaki just played a show with Mosley! I didn't make it though as I was out of town.

akm, Monday, 25 September 2017 19:51 (one month ago) Permalink

Ah, that is pretty neat!

more Allegro-like (Turrican), Monday, 25 September 2017 20:13 (one month ago) Permalink

yah he was the coolest

kurt schwitterz, Monday, 25 September 2017 20:28 (one month ago) Permalink

one month passes...

Mosley apparently passed away yesterday?? wtf RIP

MaresNest, Friday, 10 November 2017 22:16 (two weeks ago) Permalink

The Mosley family statement reads:

After a long period of sobriety, Charles Henry Mosley III lost his life, on November 9th, 2017, due to the disease of addiction. We’re sharing the manner in which he passed, in the hopes that it might serve as a warning or wake up call or beacon to anyone else struggling to fight for sobriety. He is survived by long-term partner Pip Logan, two daughters, Erica and Sophie and his grandson Wolfgang Logan Mosley. The family will be accepting donations for funeral expenses. Details to follow when arranged.

MaresNest, Friday, 10 November 2017 22:17 (two weeks ago) Permalink

;_; very sad news indeed

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 11 November 2017 04:48 (one week ago) Permalink

Saw this version of the band in '87. They were fun, a little dorky, but in a good way. Opened for Red Hot Chili Peppers w/ Hillel Slovak. Disappointing news.

Josefa, Saturday, 11 November 2017 07:58 (one week ago) Permalink

Awww fuck. RIP.

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Saturday, 11 November 2017 09:07 (one week ago) Permalink


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