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my 11 year old son and my wife love this group. so i hear them a lot. sometimes from the other room i will think hey this is like a super-catchy and poppy eminem song. why didn't eminem think of that? if you watch live footage you will notice that everyone in the crowd knows every word to every song. a recipe for success. biggest thing from ohio since.........?

scott seward, Friday, 23 September 2016 17:53 (one year ago) Permalink

Drew Carey?

MarkoP, Friday, 23 September 2016 17:55 (one year ago) Permalink

I still have a subscription to Alternative Press even though I haven't written for them for a couple of years now. AP has been on these guys since the beginning, unsurprisingly.

Don Van Gorp, midwest regional VP, marketing (誤訳侮辱), Friday, 23 September 2016 17:56 (one year ago) Permalink

the band themselves seem like real dickheads

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Friday, 23 September 2016 17:58 (one year ago) Permalink

-started seeing this name a lot on twitter, saw that they were headlining the local arena
-looked up videos, ok so they're like two white dudes with neck tattoos who rap and do pop edm, and also kinda sing like Sting? and the Youtube comments are weirdly uniformly rapturous?
-bring out a second drumset on a platform to be held up by the audience = gross
-um yeah ok
-searched ilx this morning to see if anyone had mentioned them, nothing.
-saw this thread

sam jax sax jam (Jordan), Friday, 23 September 2016 18:11 (one year ago) Permalink

they're good + they remind me of the cool 90's 'alternative' radio i used to listen to without really sounding quite like it

yolo mostly (sleepingbag), Friday, 23 September 2016 18:12 (one year ago) Permalink

they won a Kerrang! award AND a Teen Choice award this year...

scott seward, Friday, 23 September 2016 18:17 (one year ago) Permalink

building...

"By November 2015, the album sold 500,000 copies worldwide.[40] The following month, it was announced the album's US sales was over 505,000 copies.[41] By January 2016, the album had sold 592,000 copies in the US.[42] Two months later, the album's US sales had risen to 753,000 copies.[43] By the end of March, the album's US sales stood at 792,000.[44] By mid-June, the album had sold 924,000 copies,[45] and over 1 million by late July.[46] The album has since been certified gold in Canada[47] and platinum in the US."

scott seward, Friday, 23 September 2016 18:24 (one year ago) Permalink

they suck but the basic materials they work with could be good.

i like this fake dresden dolls song ok:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nky4me4NP70

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Friday, 23 September 2016 18:26 (one year ago) Permalink

i think literally the only band shirts i've seen on tweens/teens in the past year have been for these guys.

call all destroyer, Friday, 23 September 2016 18:27 (one year ago) Permalink

yeah, huge with tween/teen crowd. makes sense. dude raps but they are xian and their raps are vaguely inspirational/anthemic/not scary + cute + pop. and "now" enough for 2016.

scott seward, Friday, 23 September 2016 18:34 (one year ago) Permalink

plus radio loves pop rap that they can play. they are on the crappy radio around here a lot.

scott seward, Friday, 23 September 2016 18:36 (one year ago) Permalink

this is the sort of band that have angles from which i could get into them, particularly the parts that are v indebted to early-'00s mall emo and/or fun. unfortunately: the rapping is terrrrrrible

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Friday, 23 September 2016 18:37 (one year ago) Permalink

but they are xian

ohhhh this all makes so much more sense now

sam jax sax jam (Jordan), Friday, 23 September 2016 18:39 (one year ago) Permalink

the rapping is good enough for kids though. it's fun for kids. like eminem without being all sour and bitter and mean. kinda like sublime was good enough reggae or whatever for kids.

i like when people build something for mass appeal. it's not easy! i have no idea what their earlier stuff sounds like.

scott seward, Friday, 23 September 2016 18:39 (one year ago) Permalink

This is one super-huge rock phenomenon that, so far, I just do not get at all. Maybe I need to stop thinking of them as rock or something?

Hi! I'm twice-coloured! (Sund4r), Friday, 23 September 2016 18:40 (one year ago) Permalink

i mean i get it being good enough for the kids and that's awesome! but i'd also would rather like this music than hate it lol

the really big one "stressed out" is as dour and unmoving as a late period chili peppers song

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Friday, 23 September 2016 18:41 (one year ago) Permalink

um, not that my wife is a kid. i do like that her and cyrus dig the same group.

scott seward, Friday, 23 September 2016 18:42 (one year ago) Permalink

yeah, i think of them more as pop than rock.

scott seward, Friday, 23 September 2016 18:42 (one year ago) Permalink

artists like twenty one pilots:

http://www.mtv.com/artists/twenty-one-pilots/related-artists/?filter=similar

(most of whom i have never heard.)

scott seward, Friday, 23 September 2016 18:43 (one year ago) Permalink

this was the first song i heard by them

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktBMxkLUIwY

ugh so much of this is upsetting. also can't stand "left side brain" lyrics, thanks train!!!!!!!!

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Friday, 23 September 2016 18:44 (one year ago) Permalink

xpost

wow what a spectrum

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Friday, 23 September 2016 18:45 (one year ago) Permalink

Jason Cohen1 month ago
These guys remind me of a rap version of ColdPlay! Awesome :-D

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Friday, 23 September 2016 18:46 (one year ago) Permalink

Heathens is fun enough my kids love it to death, stressed out is bad, ride is worse millennial whooooooop

Spottie, Friday, 23 September 2016 18:46 (one year ago) Permalink

they sound like something that would have been welcome on alternative radio in '98 or '99 to me

call all destroyer, Friday, 23 September 2016 18:47 (one year ago) Permalink

yeah theres some modern 311 vibes there for sure

Spottie, Friday, 23 September 2016 18:48 (one year ago) Permalink

I mostly remember 98-99 as a nadir for alternative radio?

Hi! I'm twice-coloured! (Sund4r), Friday, 23 September 2016 18:48 (one year ago) Permalink

exactly

call all destroyer, Friday, 23 September 2016 18:50 (one year ago) Permalink

oh yeah god "ride" is so fuckin hateful

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Friday, 23 September 2016 18:52 (one year ago) Permalink

this is the one that reminded me of sublime. but 311 works too!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pw-0pbY9JeU

scott seward, Friday, 23 September 2016 18:52 (one year ago) Permalink

ride x-post

scott seward, Friday, 23 September 2016 18:53 (one year ago) Permalink

200 million views. stressed out is almost up to 700 million views.

scott seward, Friday, 23 September 2016 18:53 (one year ago) Permalink

it's v sublime

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Friday, 23 September 2016 18:54 (one year ago) Permalink

oh but i've never heard "heathens" before. this is fine! maybe they just need to calm down and do moody shit?

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Friday, 23 September 2016 18:55 (one year ago) Permalink

sublime is a good comp. i was thinking they could have been like an early opener on family values. crazy town without the nu metal or something.

call all destroyer, Friday, 23 September 2016 18:56 (one year ago) Permalink

the nu-metal was just replaced with edm.

scott seward, Friday, 23 September 2016 18:56 (one year ago) Permalink

this song is still like...compellingly awful

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92XVwY54h5k

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Friday, 23 September 2016 18:57 (one year ago) Permalink

Me and my 11-year-old son both like these dudes

Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, 23 September 2016 18:57 (one year ago) Permalink

lol i think i earnestly like "tear in my heart" now which is my own fault. catch me in this thread in september 2017 screaming "twenty one pilots are the truth"

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Friday, 23 September 2016 19:00 (one year ago) Permalink

post-crabcore

bitcoin bajas (diamonddave85), Friday, 23 September 2016 19:02 (one year ago) Permalink

lmao i would expect nothing less xp

Spottie, Friday, 23 September 2016 19:02 (one year ago) Permalink

SERIOUS earworms that's all i know. cuz i get the pleasure of hearing them so much. their hooks in my head for days.

scott seward, Friday, 23 September 2016 19:05 (one year ago) Permalink

that resigned "yeh" after "wake up you need to make money" kinda gets me

seafaring funnyman Jacques Custos (rip van wanko), Friday, 23 September 2016 19:06 (one year ago) Permalink

searched ilx this morning to see if anyone had mentioned them, nothing.

You must have not been looking in the old "WORST SONGS" threads from like 2013 onwards.

MarkoP, Friday, 23 September 2016 19:15 (one year ago) Permalink

We should all be glad that at least Fake Shark Real Zombie never really became a huge sensation.

MarkoP, Friday, 23 September 2016 19:18 (one year ago) Permalink

feels inevitable in hindsight that a band that's the mid point of 00s mall emo and youtube eminem ukulele covers would make it this big

ufo, Saturday, 24 September 2016 00:47 (one year ago) Permalink

Turns out I accidentally saw these guys live at a festival two years ago because I confused the stage where the artist I actually wanted to be was. I don't find them awful but they make me feel old... I honestly don't understand how these guys became the 'rock' band of 2015/2016, the songs are catchy and all but is that all there is?

✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 24 September 2016 00:54 (one year ago) Permalink

I actually wanted to *see

✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 24 September 2016 00:55 (one year ago) Permalink

i think i have heard "Ride" 1,000 times already. didn't know rock was this big in 2016. KIIS FM plays it like every hour.

"I've been thinking too much"

Bee OK, Saturday, 24 September 2016 02:03 (one year ago) Permalink

this isn't rock tho

billstevejim, Saturday, 24 September 2016 07:01 (one year ago) Permalink

there was a thing on the nyer website about them - http://www.newyorker.com/culture/jia-tolentino/the-slippery-appeal-of-the-biggest-new-band-in-america

just sayin, Saturday, 24 September 2016 07:37 (one year ago) Permalink

that article was great

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Saturday, 24 September 2016 07:47 (one year ago) Permalink

yeah jia tolentino's been doing some really good stuff for them imo

just sayin, Saturday, 24 September 2016 07:50 (one year ago) Permalink

and i've said this before, but its crazy how much stuff they have on the nyer website that's not in the magazine

just sayin, Saturday, 24 September 2016 07:51 (one year ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pmv8aQKO6k0
the sudden reggae break in this one is baffling enough to almost be endearing

ufo, Saturday, 24 September 2016 11:04 (one year ago) Permalink

+1 for the jia tolentino article

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 24 September 2016 11:59 (one year ago) Permalink

Popular with high schoolers, as I learned when a friend's kid said they were his favorite band and had seen twice. I hid under the table rather than share my opinion.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 24 September 2016 12:00 (one year ago) Permalink

*Mario voice*

"This-a band, she-a no so good"

Pull your head on out your hippy haze (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 24 September 2016 13:16 (one year ago) Permalink

Though in ilx terms I find them, and really a lot of stuff now interesting in the respect that kids totally raised in the post internet Pangaea where genres all sort of fell away into technologically produced hybrids ended up being being stuff that the popists hated, and really popular with young ppl

Pull your head on out your hippy haze (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 24 September 2016 13:23 (one year ago) Permalink

Coldplay with tattoos

Cosmic Slop, Saturday, 24 September 2016 16:05 (one year ago) Permalink

the raps on the hits are terrible, just wanky stoned adolescent shit. not that that prevents it from being enjoyed among actual stoned adolescents but yeah.

dyl, Saturday, 24 September 2016 16:20 (one year ago) Permalink

i think literally the only band shirts i've seen on tweens/teens in the past year have been for these guys.

i still see the occasional kid in (judging by the font) a shirt for some metalcore band i've never heard of, but yeah, this is otm for me too.

this band is terrible but yes they would have fit in fine on late 90s alt radio. (with different production choices obv.) they're no len, though.

a basset hound (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Saturday, 24 September 2016 16:40 (one year ago) Permalink

are they the flys then

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Saturday, 24 September 2016 16:44 (one year ago) Permalink

i will demure because my knowledge of current radio is sadly limited to when my boss decides to torture us with the "today's hits" station. (christ on a crutch they still play the hell out of that wiz/puth song.)

a basset hound (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Saturday, 24 September 2016 16:51 (one year ago) Permalink

Coldplay with tattoos

Coldplay sound like a very classicist pop/rock band to me. Like, it's easy to draw a direct line to them from the Beatles. This is some hyper-digital genre mash-up shit, which sounds good on paper, but the results don't do much for me. Pro-Tooled 311 seems closer to the mark to me.

Hi! I'm twice-coloured! (Sund4r), Saturday, 24 September 2016 16:55 (one year ago) Permalink

reiterating what's been said upthread, but i'm a 6th grade teacher and these guys are absolutely huge with my students, when i let them pick music in my classroom this is always the consensus first pick.

intheblanks, Saturday, 24 September 2016 16:58 (one year ago) Permalink

i think literally the only band shirts i've seen on tweens/teens in the past year have been for these guys.

i still see the occasional kid in (judging by the font) a shirt for some metalcore band i've never heard of, but yeah, this is otm for me too.

is it pierce the veil? That's another big one.

intheblanks, Saturday, 24 September 2016 16:58 (one year ago) Permalink

i think the last one was asking alexandria. which is actually a band i've heard of. (but never actually heard.)

a basset hound (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Saturday, 24 September 2016 17:01 (one year ago) Permalink

they are truly awful. Metalcore is the pits

Cosmic Slop, Saturday, 24 September 2016 17:11 (one year ago) Permalink

Metalcore has its good and bad bands, just like every genre except black metal, which is 99% shit. Asking Alexandria are direct descendants of Mötley Crüe and Skid Row.

Don Van Gorp, midwest regional VP, marketing (誤訳侮辱), Saturday, 24 September 2016 17:14 (one year ago) Permalink

pierce the veil are great btw

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Saturday, 24 September 2016 17:15 (one year ago) Permalink

Yeah, they really are. At their best they're almost a metalcore Mars Volta.

Don Van Gorp, midwest regional VP, marketing (誤訳侮辱), Saturday, 24 September 2016 17:30 (one year ago) Permalink

cool, i'll check them out. i've never actually heard them, just seen students at my school with the shirts or drawings in notebooks. I actually have no idea how "big" they are

intheblanks, Saturday, 24 September 2016 18:22 (one year ago) Permalink

that nyer piece was garbage guys come on

maura, Saturday, 24 September 2016 18:37 (one year ago) Permalink

"let me list a bunch of recent rock bands because i don't know how to describe sound but i want to place myself above this"

maura, Saturday, 24 September 2016 18:38 (one year ago) Permalink

i liked that new yorker thing. i thought it did a good job at explaining their appeal/what they are.

scott seward, Saturday, 24 September 2016 18:41 (one year ago) Permalink

lol i thought it was p good snark, it's the nyer's stock in trade. maybe if i liked the band more i'd be more critical of the piece.

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 24 September 2016 18:44 (one year ago) Permalink

i didn't even think it was that snarky.

scott seward, Saturday, 24 September 2016 18:46 (one year ago) Permalink

i just feel like music writing of that sort is useless if you want to know what the act sounds like and not what their fans purportedly think. bad writing. but the new yorker's music writing has been at sea lately so.

maura, Saturday, 24 September 2016 19:46 (one year ago) Permalink

it was trying to explain their popularity though. not review the album. and i thought it succeeded in describing why teens like them. i thought it was written well. and i hate everything.

scott seward, Saturday, 24 September 2016 19:52 (one year ago) Permalink

like, if someone said: what's up with those guys? i would have them read that.

scott seward, Saturday, 24 September 2016 19:52 (one year ago) Permalink

i just dislike that kind of bemusedly removed pop sociology but i guess we can agree to disagree

maura, Saturday, 24 September 2016 19:55 (one year ago) Permalink

It's not just teens though, my 30-something friends who stopped caring about new music like a decade ago all have 'stressed out' or 'ride' in their ipods/spotify/iphones.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 24 September 2016 20:04 (one year ago) Permalink

it's not just bemusement though.

I felt like I was listening to the soundtrack for a horror movie sponsored by Hot Topic, in which the great and terrible horror was just learning to be you.

sure it's snark but it also feels really perceptive to me, it cuts through to something important about the how the band project their identity onstage and how that connects with people

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 24 September 2016 20:38 (one year ago) Permalink

most people writing removed pop sociology wouldn't have bothered going to a concert. a field report! i dig that. i was just re-reading greg tate's review of a bruce springsteen show in new jersey and i could read that kinda stuff all day long.

scott seward, Saturday, 24 September 2016 21:24 (one year ago) Permalink

sfj spent most of his last few years at the new yorker explaining what songs sounded like and it was super boring imo

just sayin, Saturday, 24 September 2016 21:35 (one year ago) Permalink

but i also don't need to read a 20,000 word nu-journalism account of a twenty one pilots show. not that anyone is really doing that. maybe john jeremiah sullivan could do it.

i was trying to read that grover lewis anthology recently and my eyes started glazing over. zzzzzzz......soooooo long. and so dated too in a way. the attitude. the allman brothers should have kicked his butt.

scott seward, Saturday, 24 September 2016 21:52 (one year ago) Permalink

(same thing happened when i tried to read that old nik cohn rock book recently. ugh, get me out of here...)

scott seward, Saturday, 24 September 2016 21:53 (one year ago) Permalink

that graf is boring! also i go to shows all the time :p

maura, Saturday, 24 September 2016 23:05 (one year ago) Permalink

aw c'mon

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 24 September 2016 23:07 (one year ago) Permalink

sorry but yeah i'm not! it's a totally facile observation

maura, Saturday, 24 September 2016 23:10 (one year ago) Permalink

well maybe but imo it's deliciously put.

there are other things to be said that could be more about the music, or just about any music - like there are actually tons of "remember when you were a kid, and having a parent, when you were a kid???" songs in the charts. there have been for years now. which you wouldn't know from that article. "don't you worry child" by swedish house mafia. lukas graham. there are so many more than i can't think of right now because i've spent time actively trying to block them out. (lukas graham slipped through the net)

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 24 September 2016 23:19 (one year ago) Permalink

i just googled "pop songs about being a kid" and this article was on the first page of results. i think we can all agree this is a valuable resource.

http://www.chilldad.com/10-dirty-pop-songs/

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 24 September 2016 23:22 (one year ago) Permalink

yeah and the "'member that" positioning is especially strange given how aggressively pop has skewed younger over the last two decades

maura, Saturday, 24 September 2016 23:36 (one year ago) Permalink

one year passes...

i like this!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOUBW8bkjQ4

princess of hell (BradNelson), Wednesday, 11 July 2018 16:29 (one week ago) Permalink

the other new song is way more "someone's lazy idea of a twenty one pilots song"

princess of hell (BradNelson), Wednesday, 11 July 2018 16:31 (one week ago) Permalink


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