funk is a sub-genre of soul!
― Cosmic Slop, Saturday, 17 September 2016 20:53 (seven years ago) link
you would need to lose half the noms if you dont allow funk!
got some nominations for you
Barbara Pennington - Midnight RideEvelyn Thomas -I Wanna Make It On My OwnRandy Crawford - Miss Randy Crawford
3/10
― soref, Saturday, 17 September 2016 20:53 (seven years ago) link
look at the master list and all the funk that's in there
― Cosmic Slop, Saturday, 17 September 2016 20:57 (seven years ago) link
OK, I asked the mods to update the original list with the P-funk albums and correct a few errors.
Is there a rule on live albums and/or '70s recordings released in later decades?
I added Amazing Grace and the nominations from Cosmic Slop and soref to the list (offline, will post an update every few days).
― ArchCarrier, Saturday, 17 September 2016 21:00 (seven years ago) link
Will definitely vote in this--first poll that's interested me in a while--but I'm sure I'll have the same problem as a few other people: almost all my favourite '70s soul albums are compilations. But I understand why you wouldn't want to include them.
― clemenza, Saturday, 17 September 2016 21:00 (seven years ago) link
Hmm, another side poll?
― ArchCarrier, Saturday, 17 September 2016 21:06 (seven years ago) link
Oh, Sweat Band was released in 1980, so you get an extra nom, Slop.
― ArchCarrier, Saturday, 17 September 2016 21:07 (seven years ago) link
(xpost) Good idea.
― clemenza, Saturday, 17 September 2016 21:08 (seven years ago) link
That RYM list is pretty deep. Every rare/underappreciated album I initially thought of was already accounted for except for these:
Leon Ware - Leon Ware (1972)Dee Dee Warwick - Turning Around (1970)Nolan Porter - Nolan (1972)Paul Kelly - Hooked, Hogtied & Collared (1974)
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Saturday, 17 September 2016 21:12 (seven years ago) link
Is it ever easy to predict the winner of a big genre poll? I would think this one would be, although maybe I'm wrong.
― clemenza, Saturday, 17 September 2016 21:15 (seven years ago) link
Prob either What's Going On or Songs in the Key of Life, but who knows.
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Saturday, 17 September 2016 21:16 (seven years ago) link
There's so many funk albums I want to nominate!
― Cosmic Slop, Saturday, 17 September 2016 21:18 (seven years ago) link
The Brothers Johnson:
Look Out for #1Right on TimeBlam!
― Lee626, Saturday, 17 September 2016 21:19 (seven years ago) link
Bo Diddley – Big Bad Bo (1974)
Checking this out now. I didn't know there was this side to him. It's great stuff.
― jmm, Saturday, 17 September 2016 21:19 (seven years ago) link
JF: I was thinking Riot, which won't vote-split.
― clemenza, Saturday, 17 September 2016 21:20 (seven years ago) link
the omnipresence of that Donnie joe album is starting to scare me... is there backmasking involved or something?
― brimstead, Saturday, 17 September 2016 21:21 (seven years ago) link
if you change the title btw to soul/funk then there will be no arguments :)
― Cosmic Slop, Saturday, 17 September 2016 21:23 (seven years ago) link
I dont know the Donnie and Joe Emerson – Dreamin' Wild (1979) what have i missed?
Rita Coolidge and Charlie Rich on this list seems weird, but eh (I like both of those albums, too).
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Saturday, 17 September 2016 21:24 (seven years ago) link
It's a "long lost" (read: private press album nobody ever heard until a few years ago) that's some pseudo-Hall & Oates shit hipsters love.
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Saturday, 17 September 2016 21:25 (seven years ago) link
What do others think about Elis Regina, Larry Jon Wilson and Stories? I wouldn't call any of them "soul" myself, but maybe I'm missing something.... Fantastic list!
Nominations:Howard Tate Reaction 1970Esther Phillips Burnin' 1970Esther Phillips Confessin' the Blues 1976Allen Toussaint Life, Love and Faith 1972The Dells Like It Is Like It Was 1970Mel & Tim Starting All Over Again 1972The Miracles City of Angels 1975Clarence Reid On the Job 1976Charlie Whitehead Raw Spitt 1970Junior Parker I Tell Stories Sad and True, I Sing the Blues and Play Harmonica Too, It Is Very Funky 1972
― Edd Hurt, Saturday, 17 September 2016 21:32 (seven years ago) link
Rita Coolidge and Charlie Rich on this list seems weirdGood call, I removed them from the list.
― ArchCarrier, Saturday, 17 September 2016 21:32 (seven years ago) link
It's a "long lost" (read: private press album nobody ever heard until a few years ago) that's some pseudo-Hall & Oates shit hipsters love.― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Saturday, 17 September 2016 22:25 (fourteen minutes ago
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Saturday, 17 September 2016 22:25 (fourteen minutes ago
ahhhh, ilxors
― Cosmic Slop, Saturday, 17 September 2016 21:41 (seven years ago) link
Updated nominations up to here.
― ArchCarrier, Saturday, 17 September 2016 21:45 (seven years ago) link
What do others think about Elis Regina, Larry Jon Wilson and Stories? I wouldn't call any of them "soul" myself, but maybe I'm missing something....
If something really sticks out I can always remove it, no problem. On the other hand, if it doesn't feel like soul you can just ignore it when voting starts.
The RYM chart was just an easy way to get this poll started.
― ArchCarrier, Saturday, 17 September 2016 21:49 (seven years ago) link
Discovering Southern Nights last year was a revelation.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 17 September 2016 21:53 (seven years ago) link
yeah that list has just about anything you could want, really. only thing i can think of to add is "mystic syster" by the equals which is, you know, not something i expect to get a hell of a lot of votes.
― a confederacy of lampreys (rushomancy), Saturday, 17 September 2016 21:56 (seven years ago) link
if we're talking about culling the list, i love that kim jung mi album but it's _not_ when i think of when i think "'70s soul". but if anyone else was planning on voting for "ga na da ra ma ba, my loving korean alphabet", you know, pipe up.
― a confederacy of lampreys (rushomancy), Saturday, 17 September 2016 21:59 (seven years ago) link
I have one nom left then but got loads I'd like to nominate but I guess we need some Cameo in here
Cameo - Cardiac Arrest
― Cosmic Slop, Saturday, 17 September 2016 22:02 (seven years ago) link
Hope somebody will nominate James Brown's Sex Machine since I managed to miss it.
― Edd Hurt, Saturday, 17 September 2016 22:02 (seven years ago) link
Could we not have 25 noms or something? you said you could be bribed..... :)
― Cosmic Slop, Saturday, 17 September 2016 22:06 (seven years ago) link
Hold on, I'll PM you my Amazon wishlist.
― ArchCarrier, Saturday, 17 September 2016 22:09 (seven years ago) link
Why don't you post some YouTubes? They might inspire someone else to nominate your stuff!
― ArchCarrier, Saturday, 17 September 2016 22:11 (seven years ago) link
Well I'm pretty sure the Betty Davis albums will get nommed at least
― Cosmic Slop, Saturday, 17 September 2016 22:15 (seven years ago) link
is it really necessary to have nominations when you've already curated a list from which people can choose?
― have you ever even read The Drudge Report? Have you gone on Stormfron (k3vin k.), Saturday, 17 September 2016 22:28 (seven years ago) link
just have people vote for their 25 or however-many favorite from this list (or, if they really want to, another record) and count the votes
― have you ever even read The Drudge Report? Have you gone on Stormfron (k3vin k.), Saturday, 17 September 2016 22:30 (seven years ago) link
nominations are needed so everyone has the same correct spellings of the albums otherwise tabulating is a nightmare
― Cosmic Slop, Saturday, 17 September 2016 22:36 (seven years ago) link
Will follow this thread closely I think. I finally read Turn The Beat Around early this year and the chapter on 70s soul (as a precusor to disco) was maybe my favourite section.
― Tim F, Saturday, 17 September 2016 23:01 (seven years ago) link
it's not a nightmare, it's just ... There are ways to make it not a big deal. But it's more fun to list
― brimstead, Saturday, 17 September 2016 23:19 (seven years ago) link
How hard could it be to just look out for misspellings, it's not like there are hundreds of ballots, argh why do I care
― brimstead, Saturday, 17 September 2016 23:21 (seven years ago) link
*whispers* also the list of albums the voters are going to copy and paste from is right at the top of this thread
― have you ever even read The Drudge Report? Have you gone on Stormfron (k3vin k.), Saturday, 17 September 2016 23:45 (seven years ago) link
why does it bother you?
People have their own faves they want to vote for.
Having nominations allows discussion on albums before voting and might lead to people discovering albums to vote for.
― Cosmic Slop, Sunday, 18 September 2016 00:01 (seven years ago) link
the reason why people need to nominate albums is because a.) this list doesn't contain "off the wall," b.) it does contain "osmium" which is like the most psychedelic and rock-oriented album in the p-funk universe that isn't actually by funkadelic and it's also the ONLY parliament album, c.) rate your music is not an infallible source (you got a buncha jorge ben albums on there and no milton nascimento...so which '70s m.p.b. artists are "soul" and which aren't? etc etc), and d.) come on, now.
― a basset hound (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Sunday, 18 September 2016 00:02 (seven years ago) link
I finally read Turn The Beat Around early this year and the chapter on 70s soul (as a precusor to disco) was maybe my favourite section.
Lol same here
― the coyotes have taken over the town (Drugs A. Money), Sunday, 18 September 2016 00:22 (seven years ago) link
What book is that?
― Cosmic Slop, Sunday, 18 September 2016 00:24 (seven years ago) link
i misunderstood k3vin k's post + my posts were stupid, forgive my shitposting
jorge ben doesn't make sense on here to me, either
― brimstead, Sunday, 18 September 2016 00:47 (seven years ago) link
xp T
xp Turn The Beat Around by Peter Shapiro
Yeah, I'll definitely vote for this.
― Austin, Sunday, 18 September 2016 06:03 (seven years ago) link
Album cover of the day:http://i.imgur.com/tzpcquJ.jpg
― ArchCarrier, Friday, 30 September 2016 19:13 (seven years ago) link
And a few good full albums I found on YouTube the last couple of days:
Marlena Shaw - Who Is This Bitch, Anyway
Atlas - Atlas (also an awesome cover!)
Marie Queenie Lyons - Soul Fever
Yvonne Fair - The Bitch Is Black
Roy C. - Sex And Soul
― ArchCarrier, Friday, 30 September 2016 19:17 (seven years ago) link
2nd Resurrection by the Stairsteps is pitched somewhere between Riot (murky and distant) and Talking Book (silly and pretty) but it might actually be better than both. Criminally underdiscussed.
― simmel, Thursday, 6 October 2016 18:41 (seven years ago) link
I'll be voting for 2nd Resurrection. It's a masterpiece.
― Kitchen Person, Thursday, 6 October 2016 19:47 (seven years ago) link
noms:
Free Life - s/t (1978)Heatwave - Too Hot to Handle (1976)Pleasure - Get to the Feeling (1978)Pleasure - Future Now (1979)Wood, Brass & Steel - s/t (1976)
5/10
― Dominique, Thursday, 6 October 2016 22:08 (seven years ago) link
I see I made a mistake in the date in my first post. The voting thread will open on Monday morning, October 10. So you have the whole weekend to sneak in any last-minute nominations.
― ArchCarrier, Friday, 7 October 2016 06:48 (seven years ago) link
Kool & the Gang - Wild and Peaceful (1973)Kool & the Gang - Spirit of the Boogie (1975)WAR - Galaxy (1977)
8/10
― Dominique, Friday, 7 October 2016 13:48 (seven years ago) link
Bee Gees - Main Course (1975)
9/10
― Dominique, Friday, 7 October 2016 14:46 (seven years ago) link
Someone please campaign for an oddball hidden classic along the lines of 2nd Resurrection or Dr. Buzzard while there's still time. If there are any of course.
― simmel, Saturday, 8 October 2016 19:18 (seven years ago) link
Some of my favourite oddball hidden classics.
Milton Wright – SpacedGreg Perry - Smokin'Lou Ragland – He Says 'Understand Each Other” Brick - Brick The Voices of East Harlem – The Voices of East HarlemAce Spectrum – Inner Spectrum Bloodstone – BloodstoneLeroy Hutson – Love Oh LoveRasputin's Stash - Rasputin's Stash
― Kitchen Person, Saturday, 8 October 2016 21:54 (seven years ago) link
Exactly what I was looking for. Thanks!
― simmel, Saturday, 8 October 2016 22:01 (seven years ago) link
Sure. Also, I'm not sure if it counts as an oddball hidden classic as it is kind of well known, but if you don't know it I'd check out Stevie Wonder Presents Syreeta. I already mentioned it earlier on this thread. It's likely to be my number one.
― Kitchen Person, Saturday, 8 October 2016 22:17 (seven years ago) link
Couldn't see these on the nominations list:
The Jimmy Castor Bunch - It's Just BegunThe Jimmy Castor Bunch featuring The Everything Man - E-Man Groovin'Beautiful Bend - Make That Feeling Come Again!USA-European Connection - Come Into My HeartCaress - CaressFirst Choice - So Let Us Entertain YouPleasure - Accept No SubstitutesPleasure - JoyousFern Kinney - Groove MeDonna Summer - Bad Girls
― Jeff W, Saturday, 8 October 2016 22:52 (seven years ago) link
xxp I always lump Syreeta in with Minnie Riperton as a sort of spiritual soul that's just not for me. But I will relisten to that album before voting for sure. Digging Lou Ragland and Ace Spectrum from that list. Inner Spectrum is moving up the ranks of my hyperfalsetto favorites.
― simmel, Sunday, 9 October 2016 05:20 (seven years ago) link
~~~ Nominations updated ~~~
― ArchCarrier, Sunday, 9 October 2016 07:52 (seven years ago) link
I've given up on trying to listen to everything, because there's just SO MUCH good music here. I'm happy to have found some great albums already because of this thread, and voting hasn't even started!
― ArchCarrier, Sunday, 9 October 2016 07:57 (seven years ago) link
Speaking of voting: I'm thinking of ballots with a minimum of 25 and a maximum of 100 albums.Would it be OK if the top 25 of every ballot was weighted (say, #1 gets 30 points #2 gets 29... all the way to 6 points for #25) and everything below that unweighted, so that all the other votes on a ballot get 5 points?
I'm not sure what the consequences would be for the final results, but it would make counting definitely easier for me. Any thoughts?
― ArchCarrier, Sunday, 9 October 2016 08:08 (seven years ago) link
Fine with that. Ranking after 25 in genre polls usually is sort of random. I like voting only for core favorites so the initial plan was to go just top 10 but I can see now that core favorites in this case really is 25 at minimum.
― simmel, Sunday, 9 October 2016 11:21 (seven years ago) link
On the other hand, larger ballots might mean boring results. Don't know.
― simmel, Sunday, 9 October 2016 16:50 (seven years ago) link
Yeah, larger ballots mean people will put consensus "classic albums" in the lower ranks instead of just listing their personal favourites... And with votes from everyone the consensus albums will rise to the top, and #1 will probably be "What's Going On", which does sound boring (and wrong).
― Tuomas, Monday, 10 October 2016 06:32 (seven years ago) link
Well, that happens with every big poll: the bottom 75% is usually much more interesting than the top 25%. And by having a minimum of 25, the people who only own five classic soul albums won't be able to vote.
I'm going to set up the voting form right now. Nominations close in less than an hour!
― ArchCarrier, Monday, 10 October 2016 06:57 (seven years ago) link
It's going to happen... Here's the
~~~ ILM 1970s SOUL/FUNK/DISCO ALBUMS POLL ~~~ VOTING THREAD
― ArchCarrier, Monday, 10 October 2016 07:52 (seven years ago) link
I feel bad that I didn't get back here to nominate James Brown's Hot Pants. Great album. :(
― lingereffect (Kent Burt), Monday, 10 October 2016 10:18 (seven years ago) link
Three more days to send in your ballot! Voting closes Sunday night.
VOTE HERE
― ArchCarrier, Friday, 14 October 2016 05:54 (seven years ago) link
And we're rolling:
PEOPLE... HOLD ON. It's the ~~~ ILM 1970s SOUL/FUNK/DISCO ALBUMS POLL ~~~ results thread!
― ArchCarrier, Monday, 17 October 2016 11:39 (seven years ago) link
I know there were only a handful of original members there, but I really enjoyed the Valentines Soul Jam concert I saw February 12th with the Stylistics, Dramatics, Harold Melvin's Blue Notes, and Intruders. Oh I got there a bit late and missed Cuba Gooding Sr.
Some great falsetto, harmonies and group choreographed dance moves. Stylistics and Blue Notes were the most impressive.
― curmudgeon, Thursday, 23 February 2017 19:12 (seven years ago) link
TRAX POLL
― Headphone Jack (seandalai), Thursday, 23 February 2017 21:04 (seven years ago) link
After the emo poll is done, OK?
― ArchCarrier, Thursday, 23 February 2017 22:28 (seven years ago) link
sweet :)
― Headphone Jack (seandalai), Thursday, 23 February 2017 22:55 (seven years ago) link
And here it is:
Papa was a POLLING STONE: It's the 1970s SOUL/FUNK/DISCO ~~~ TRACKS POLL
― ArchCarrier, Friday, 17 March 2017 14:56 (seven years ago) link