Classic and/or acclaimed albums that are inexplicably out of print and not available to buy in digital format either

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I wanted to start this thread because today I was shocked to discover this applies to the first two albums by Organized Konfusion! Apparently they've been long out of print in physical format, and it seems even Amazon and Itunes are only selling the third album and the best of compilation as MP3s. (The third albums is usually considered notably worse as the first two, and I agree with that.) That's pretty unusual, since the second album in particular is often mentioned among the best rap records of the '90s in various books and articles.

It seems there are still enough used copies of the two albums floating around that people who don't have them don't need pay ridiculous prices, but it's still pretty weird that they're not available as new copies/MP3s, considering that record label (Hollywood) remains active to date.

Tuomas, Monday, 5 September 2016 13:14 (two years ago) Permalink

Another example is the entire FAX label catalogue, which nets some of the highest prices you can see on Discogs.com for used CDs... Of course in this case it's not really inexplicable, since it's the direct result of Pete Namlook's death and the subsequent folding of the label, and even when it was active the printings were highly limited. (In some cases to just 300 copies.) But it's still disheartening to see used copies of the albums that are missing from my collection being priced 100 euros or more, because fuck if I'll ever pay that much for any used CD.

Tuomas, Monday, 5 September 2016 13:26 (two years ago) Permalink

I think the most extreme example in the FAX catalogue is this one, which, unlike most other classic albums on the label, was never reissued on Ambient World, so used copies are currently going for 300+ euros.

Tuomas, Monday, 5 September 2016 13:29 (two years ago) Permalink

The Insect Trust, Hoboken Saturday Night. Although you can find it on youtube and the first album is on the streaming services.

Under the Zing of Stan (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 5 September 2016 15:47 (two years ago) Permalink

i was sure hoboken had been reissued recently, but turns out that was a over a decade ago now.

no lime tangier, Monday, 5 September 2016 15:58 (two years ago) Permalink

Time flies.

Under the Zing of Stan (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 5 September 2016 16:10 (two years ago) Permalink

all of aaliyah's albums bar her first are out of print and unavailable for digital purchase, i'm guessing b/c blackground records is an irredeemable mess

dyl, Monday, 5 September 2016 16:37 (two years ago) Permalink

https://www.discogs.com/artist/581-Zoviet-France

sleeve, Monday, 5 September 2016 16:41 (two years ago) Permalink

Ornette's Crisis: concert incl. Haden, Cherry, Redman, Denardo--one of D.'s earliest issued performances, if not the first, and its knockabout surety totally fits w overall: in space jungle settings, but no fantasy, converging on-point performances x some of their strongest, zeitgeist-charged material as of 1969 (incl. Haden's "Song For Che"). Effective room ambience, mostly just the right amount of shadowy echo, in whatever room at NYU.
Apparently *never* on CD or download, according to discogs, but the LP's been reissued several times, and whole thing's currently on YouTube (don't sleep)

dow, Monday, 5 September 2016 17:50 (two years ago) Permalink

The Link Wray Rumble, on Polydor, '74: the best of his early 70s albums (that I've heard), in terms of sound quality and arrangements; maybe he had a decent budget this time. Soulful, unpretentious but bold singing, with more focused vocal persona than a lot of guitar legends, also good variety of approaches and material, like "Goodtime Joe", about a wino with no money, might be some kind of subsumed study of the Who, judging by hooky verse-riffs (before getting to nobody-but-Wray evil exhalations of sustain), and "I Got To Ramble" combines primo Van Morrison-type singing with the lyrical side of Allmanesque guitar (it's dedicated to Duane). Other tracks seem to assimilate Sly speculations, for instance, and Bernie Krause's synth applies mirrorshades hairlines sometimes, and the voice-and-acoustic version of Tony Joe's "Backwoods Preacher Man" is a very effective turnaround, and some of it's on YouTube and in the Link stash (with a lot of other remarkable tracks) at archive.org.

dow, Monday, 5 September 2016 18:26 (two years ago) Permalink

there's a nice compilation of the early '70s Link Wray stuff called Guitar Preacher which I think has most of that album. It's on Spotify too

Number None, Monday, 5 September 2016 18:40 (two years ago) Permalink

Buckingham Nicks (pre-Fleetwood Mac)
The Shining OST
Once Upon a Time in Shaolin
Blackground catalog as referenced above, including Aaliyah, Timbaland and Magoo, Toni Braxton, etc

it me, Monday, 5 September 2016 19:12 (two years ago) Permalink

What's the deal with Blackground? I looked at Wikipedia, but it didn't say anything about what sort of problems the label has had.

Tuomas, Tuesday, 6 September 2016 06:34 (two years ago) Permalink

the XTC catalogue is out of print on CD. forget about vinyl. every record is on iTunes...EXCEPT SKYLARKING????????

flappy bird, Tuesday, 6 September 2016 17:28 (two years ago) Permalink

XTC pretty well covered here? https://www.burningshed.com/store/ape/

Tim, Tuesday, 6 September 2016 17:56 (two years ago) Permalink

I've never followed what the deal is there exactly - did XTC get all the rights to their masters from Geffen?

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 6 September 2016 17:57 (two years ago) Permalink

Back from Virgin mostly, I'd assume (but whether they've been bought back or licensed back or lapsed or whatever I've no clue).

Tim, Tuesday, 6 September 2016 18:16 (two years ago) Permalink

afaik they were licensed back, and they definitely don't own their masters

flappy bird, Tuesday, 6 September 2016 18:23 (two years ago) Permalink

from Virgin, but yeah.

Mark G, Tuesday, 6 September 2016 18:28 (two years ago) Permalink

oh right, sorry mixed up the labels

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 6 September 2016 18:31 (two years ago) Permalink

Probably not classic, and not acclaimed at the time or now, but still one of my three favourite groups, The Yummy Fur. Entire catalog out of print, and has been for quite a while.

Camaraderie at Arms Length, Tuesday, 6 September 2016 19:28 (two years ago) Permalink

This Pitchfork Story of Feminist Punk in 33 Songs article reminds me that Kill Rock Stars to put out a complete Huggy Bear collection like they did with Kleenex/LiLiPUT ages ago.

Hideous Lump, Wednesday, 7 September 2016 03:20 (two years ago) Permalink

...Kill Rock Stars to should put out...

Hideous Lump, Wednesday, 7 September 2016 03:20 (two years ago) Permalink

There was talk of there being a Yummy Fur compilation and reissue campaign about 10 years ago, but clearly it was not to be

PaulTMA, Wednesday, 7 September 2016 12:11 (two years ago) Permalink

I have all those Yummy Fur CDs - just looked on Discogs, had no idea some of them were going for $$! Great, fun stuff.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Wednesday, 7 September 2016 13:08 (two years ago) Permalink

someone stole my copy of Male Shadow and I'm still raging about it

PaulTMA, Wednesday, 7 September 2016 14:07 (two years ago) Permalink

There was talk of there being a Yummy Fur compilation and reissue campaign about 10 years ago, but clearly it was not to be

― PaulTMA, Wednesday, September 7, 2016 8:11 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yeah, it was during those couple of years when Franz Ferdinand were huge, the problem there was that Alex Kapranos only played on their final album (Sexy World) which is absolutely the worst thing they ever put out. The best-of compilation was a better idea - I believe the reason given for delays with this was that their labels Guided Missile / Vesuvius and/or the group have lost the masters. Then the buzz died away and now there seems to be absolutely zero interest from anyone who doesn't have the albums already. I just think it's a shocker that something like "The Career Saver" only exists as the b-side of a forgotten 7" single on a forgotten label from nearly 20 years ago, and has never even been on a compilation.

Camaraderie at Arms Length, Wednesday, 7 September 2016 14:08 (two years ago) Permalink

I think Kapranos only joined after the recording of Sexy World (always my favourite), so I'm not sure he's even on anything beyond 'This Is Andrew Sinclair'. Masters or not, they could have at least cloned the CDs and allowed some needledrops - presumably someone gave that idea the thumbs down

PaulTMA, Wednesday, 7 September 2016 16:16 (two years ago) Permalink

re Yummy Fur I thought it was just the vinyl that was going for $$$? I found Male Shadow on CD for £3 recently but the 10" was like £30 I think.

Just noise and screaming and no musical value at all. (Colonel Poo), Wednesday, 7 September 2016 16:26 (two years ago) Permalink

Lot of vintage Kill Rock Stars on their YouTube channel, very handy

dow, Wednesday, 7 September 2016 16:34 (two years ago) Permalink

I thought A Guy Called Gerald's "Black Secret Technology" had fallen to this category, but looks like you can now get it digitally on his Bandcamp site. That's nice, it took me ages to find a physical copy of the 2012 remaster, the pressing for that must've been minuscule.

Tuomas, Thursday, 8 September 2016 10:06 (two years ago) Permalink

His previous album, "28 Gun Bad Boy", fits here though. At the moment, the cheapest used copy I could find online is 140 pounds, and it's not digitally available even on his Bandcamp site. Which is weird, because AFAIK, it was originally released by his own label, so he should have the rights to reissue it... Maybe he's just not proud of the album?

Tuomas, Thursday, 8 September 2016 10:13 (two years ago) Permalink

huh wanted to hear Hysteria today and looks like all the Def Leppard classic era material is not on Spotify or available for purchase on iTunes, Apple Music, Google Music or Amazon MP3

there's a live album, Slang (yay lol) and some "re-recorded" version of a couple hits

Pull your head on out your hippy haze (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 8 September 2016 18:58 (two years ago) Permalink

i listened to a few of those re-recorded def leppard tunes and eeeyowch.

tylerw, Thursday, 8 September 2016 19:01 (two years ago) Permalink

wonder if with 28 Gun Bad Boy it's a sample clearing problem.

brimstead, Thursday, 8 September 2016 19:04 (two years ago) Permalink

iirc, Def Leppard were/are in some kind of dispute with their old label and/or Mutt Lange. Terms for reissues couldn't be agreed on, so Def Leppard decided to re-record everything as faithfully as possible and only make those available digitally.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 8 September 2016 19:06 (two years ago) Permalink

I've never heard 28 Gun Bad Boy, does it have some prominent uncleared samples?

Tuomas, Thursday, 8 September 2016 19:13 (two years ago) Permalink

off the top of my head, roy ayers "everybody loves the sunshine".. also dialogue from Robocop

brimstead, Thursday, 8 September 2016 19:38 (two years ago) Permalink

but i'm just spitballing.

brimstead, Thursday, 8 September 2016 19:41 (two years ago) Permalink

four months pass...

Seems like some of Prince's post-Warner albums have been hit by this, The Gold Experience and Rainbow Children in particular go for crazy prices now. I was actually considering buying the latter (already have the former), but I'm not gonna pay 50 euros for it! Should've snatched it back in the day when you saw it in used CD bins for 5.

Tuomas, Wednesday, 11 January 2017 08:18 (two years ago) Permalink

^^I was gonna bring that up back when this thread started. There's loads of OOP Prince stuff, both later Warners stuff and most of the albums he'd leased out afterwards.

"I must believe that my charm was not in my ass." (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 11 January 2017 09:29 (two years ago) Permalink

all of aaliyah's albums bar her first are out of print and unavailable for digital purchase, i'm guessing b/c blackground records is an irredeemable mess

What's the deal with Blackground? I looked at Wikipedia, but it didn't say anything about what sort of problems the label has had.

http://www.complex.com/music/2016/12/aaliyahs-music-isnt-online-and-her-uncle-barry-hankerson-is-the-reason-why

fact checking cuz, Wednesday, 11 January 2017 10:13 (two years ago) Permalink

There always seems to be a Neil Young album like this; I thought Time Fades Away was OOP but apparently its on iTunes now.

Not exactly albums, but the Beatles' fan club Christmas flexidiscs have been hard to come by since the early '70s when an LP compilation was briefly available. Also, the Let It Be film is out of print and was only ever issued on VHS.

Lee626, Wednesday, 11 January 2017 11:05 (two years ago) Permalink

Wish somebody redo the Clock Dva and Box material with that bunch of players.

Stevolende, Wednesday, 11 January 2017 12:38 (two years ago) Permalink

XP IIRC Apple was preparing Let It Be for DVD release back in the early '00s (probably to tie in w/LIB Naked), but the release was quashed from on high because "No one wants to see a whole film of the Beatles yelling at each other."

There's probably a good list of suppressed films/videos that have that status for similar unflattering reasons (Cracked Actor; Cocksucker Blues; Eat The Document to name just three).

"I must believe that my charm was not in my ass." (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 11 January 2017 19:10 (two years ago) Permalink

Also, the Let It Be film is out of print and was only ever issued on VHS.

and Laserdisc!

Hideous Lump, Thursday, 12 January 2017 04:35 (two years ago) Permalink

Yeah, but find one!

Mark G, Thursday, 12 January 2017 08:06 (two years ago) Permalink

Wish somebody redo the Clock Dva and Box material with that bunch of players.

― Stevolende, Wednesday, January 11, 2017 12:38 PM (two days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

To elucidate on that the Box were teh line up of Clock Dva that recorded the Thirst lp and several other bits and bobs from the time, obnce they'd split from frontman Adi newton.
I don't think that either band is currently well represented. Though I do think that I saw Clock Dva cds from that period of teh band's existence in the early days of Dublin Tower before they had the flood. Think that included some material that had originally been cassette only.

Stevolende, Friday, 13 January 2017 17:15 (two years ago) Permalink

Yeah, but find one!

― Mark G

nah, don't bother; was cropped to hell and back. bootlegs these days tend to come from original film prints.

increasingly bonkers (rushomancy), Friday, 13 January 2017 17:26 (two years ago) Permalink

two years pass...

Apparently this has happened to the Voices from the Lake album, since the original label has folded. Quite sad, it's one of the best albums of this decade.

Tuomas, Wednesday, 13 March 2019 14:35 (two months ago) Permalink

Ornette's Crisis: concert incl. Haden, Cherry, Redman, Denardo--one of D.'s earliest issued performances, if not the first, and its knockabout surety totally fits w overall: in space jungle settings, but no fantasy, converging on-point performances x some of their strongest, zeitgeist-charged material as of 1969 (incl. Haden's "Song For Che"). Effective room ambience, mostly just the right amount of shadowy echo, in whatever room at NYU.
Apparently *never* on CD or download, according to discogs, but the LP's been reissued several times, and whole thing's currently on YouTube (don't sleep)

This was reissued on CD by Real Gone Music a year or two back, paired with another extremely rare one, Ornette At 12.

grawlix (unperson), Wednesday, 13 March 2019 17:14 (two months ago) Permalink

Saccharine Trust Surviving You Always, their only SST record that isn't available to stream (at least the last time I checked) and not avail on cd or lp.

chr1sb3singer, Wednesday, 13 March 2019 17:18 (two months ago) Permalink

yep, you can thank Greg Ginn for that

Emperor Tonetta Ketchup (sleeve), Wednesday, 13 March 2019 17:46 (two months ago) Permalink

There is something weird and particularly personal about keeping that record of all the SST released unavailable, I mean you can still listen to Worldbroken (and you should cuz that record is something) but SYA is considered their classic and it has always seemed (watching from afar) that Ginn was trying to put the screws to them for some reason.

chr1sb3singer, Wednesday, 13 March 2019 18:12 (two months ago) Permalink

Weakling - Dead as Dreams

Gavin, Leeds, Wednesday, 13 March 2019 18:25 (two months ago) Permalink

There is something weird and particularly personal about keeping that record of all the SST released unavailable, I mean you can still listen to Worldbroken (and you should cuz that record is something) but SYA is considered their classic and it has always seemed (watching from afar) that Ginn was trying to put the screws to them for some reason.

― chr1sb3singer

i just kind of assumed greg ginn is an all-around terrible human being, on the grounds that basically every single person who has ever known him says he is

the scientology of mountains (rushomancy), Wednesday, 13 March 2019 22:11 (two months ago) Permalink

Dixie Highway Sign by Robin and Linda Williams

banjoboy, Thursday, 14 March 2019 01:44 (two months ago) Permalink


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