Car Seat Headrest--Teens of Denial

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Is there really no thread on this? What a phenomenal record. Easily one of the best guitar albums in years. It's so good I could plotz.

kornrulez6969, Thursday, 25 August 2016 15:33 (one year ago) Permalink

what a terrible band name

the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Thursday, 25 August 2016 15:38 (one year ago) Permalink

Yeah, it's one of those that's put me off listening to the band.

TARANTINO! (dog latin), Thursday, 25 August 2016 15:43 (one year ago) Permalink

the songs are too long

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Thursday, 25 August 2016 15:47 (one year ago) Permalink

I beg to differ. It's a great band name and excellent rock album and the songs are not too long.

kornrulez6969, Thursday, 25 August 2016 15:49 (one year ago) Permalink

They should have called themselves Teens of Denial instead.

the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Thursday, 25 August 2016 15:52 (one year ago) Permalink

thats bad too tho

adam, Thursday, 25 August 2016 15:53 (one year ago) Permalink

Great album but yes, the songs are too long. The drummer is straight up excellent as well as the bass player (but I noticed he is playing guitar live with the group now). Going to see these guys day after Thanksgiving!

Terrible band name though.

righteousmaelstrom, Thursday, 25 August 2016 15:59 (one year ago) Permalink

i've listened to it a fair amount but never really got ilm-thread-level excited about it. it's good.

ciderpress, Thursday, 25 August 2016 16:02 (one year ago) Permalink

Maybe I'm just starved for alt rock guitar records, but this sounds like one of the best to come out in a long time. The dude knows what he's doing.

kornrulez6969, Thursday, 25 August 2016 16:06 (one year ago) Permalink

i was way more excited about the Hop Along record last year re: indie guitar records

ciderpress, Thursday, 25 August 2016 16:13 (one year ago) Permalink

ditto mitski re: indie guitar records

dc, Thursday, 25 August 2016 16:16 (one year ago) Permalink

I really like this album, it's definitely one of the best indie guitar rock albums in a while (along with Mitski it's been a relatively good year for those). the track lengths are definitely pretty self-indulgent though (there's no reason the intro to Vincent had to be 2 minutes, Cosmic Hero really should be half its length, they jam out the end of songs just a little too long etc.), there's no reason it had to be 70 minutes long

a fair few of his old home-recorded albums are quite good too but this one feels like a real step up

ufo, Thursday, 25 August 2016 16:21 (one year ago) Permalink

but maybe i'll give this one more of a chance since i recall kornrulez liking some random stuff i also like. i.e. the glands. (not to mention korn, obvs.)

dc, Thursday, 25 August 2016 16:22 (one year ago) Permalink

Yes! The Glands rule. Rest in peace Ross Shapiro.

(I only know 2 songs by korn. I picked this screen name because I wanted the most uncool name possible)

kornrulez6969, Thursday, 25 August 2016 16:24 (one year ago) Permalink

ha ha obvs

dc, Thursday, 25 August 2016 16:25 (one year ago) Permalink

There are lots of good riffs and melodies interspersed, but the lyrics try too hard to be clever and the songs are so long that I've had trouble connecting with this record.

you think Lou Bega gave up after Mambo Number One??? (voodoo chili), Thursday, 25 August 2016 16:26 (one year ago) Permalink

Everything I've heard from this has been really lumpy and midpaced and lacking in character.

Matt DC, Thursday, 25 August 2016 16:29 (one year ago) Permalink

Am I hearing the same record as you guys? I'm mildly confused.

kornrulez6969, Thursday, 25 August 2016 17:08 (one year ago) Permalink

I LOVE the band name but found his last record unbearably dull and uninspired. Gonna give this new record a go and report back.

flappy bird, Thursday, 25 August 2016 17:56 (one year ago) Permalink

friend of mine in medical school played bass on and toured for "teens of style" -- i really dug their big single, "something soon". will give this one a listen

have you ever even read The Drudge Report? Have you gone on Stormfron (k3vin k.), Thursday, 25 August 2016 18:54 (one year ago) Permalink

this is definitely a big step up from Teens of Style, the songs really benefit from recording in a studio as a band and it's much more dynamic and better arranged

he'd really outgrown the home recording by Teens of Style, which tried to improve in sound quality over earlier albums but ended up in an ugly in-between

ufo, Friday, 26 August 2016 00:35 (one year ago) Permalink

I LOVE the band name

really?

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Friday, 26 August 2016 00:58 (one year ago) Permalink

yeah, i think it's great. really bored by the record though

flappy bird, Friday, 26 August 2016 02:15 (one year ago) Permalink

the music's pretty good, I just don't find his voice compelling at all

geoffreyess, Friday, 26 August 2016 03:39 (one year ago) Permalink

parquet courts are working in a similar sort of bland indie rock revivalism, but at least they've got some riffs and a handful of sick songs. better artwork and attitude, too. i don't find anything about this Car Seat Headrest record compelling at all.

flappy bird, Friday, 26 August 2016 04:02 (one year ago) Permalink

responsible for the most banal and depressing "What's In My Bag" of all time

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLGVGvO1YeE

Wimmels, Friday, 26 August 2016 10:02 (one year ago) Permalink

Thread needs more car seat headrests, imo.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZTa8Nh0VlE

how's life, Friday, 26 August 2016 12:36 (one year ago) Permalink

xp Yeah I saw that What's in My Bag! Made me wait another two months to actually listen to the record. My girlfriend and I have a joke about everyone saying "I like Twin Peaks but I haven't finished it yet," also the thing about the Kurt Cobain record is so lame.

flappy bird, Friday, 26 August 2016 17:33 (one year ago) Permalink

two months pass...

this kid's brilliant

Treeship, Saturday, 29 October 2016 19:08 (one year ago) Permalink

drunk drivers/killer whales is the best one, i think. "killer whales" are a pretty potent metaphor for entrapment, sort of surprising, maybe a bit on the nose but this is indie rock

Treeship, Saturday, 29 October 2016 19:11 (one year ago) Permalink

Will played with Jandek here in LA a couple months back. Was encouraged to check this out afterwards but am still pretty meh on the songs.

Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 29 October 2016 19:25 (one year ago) Permalink

god, that What's In My Bag *is* super lame. if you like this band and/or his songs, don't watch it, it could ruin him for you.

alpine static, Sunday, 30 October 2016 07:38 (one year ago) Permalink

I thought this was just a joke band based on this one "which black metal band's logo is this?" picture:

http://i.imgur.com/NBF4paF.png

StanM, Sunday, 30 October 2016 07:44 (one year ago) Permalink

one month passes...

i actually like the band name, it (combined with seeing, i think it was Whiney, roaring about it on twitter) definitely contributed to my intrigue. completely banal over-familiar object but you rarely every say "car seat headrest" so it somehow comes out sounding fresh(???)

based on Teens of Denial, they're not a great band yet but there's some promise imo. i love the power-pop punches in the chorus of 'fill in the blank' (you have no *right* to be depreeessed, you haven't tried hard enough to like it), and u gotta admit there is something about the timbre of his voice

flopson, Friday, 2 December 2016 18:51 (one year ago) Permalink

I'm listening with malevolent intent

Dave Plaintive rapper with classical training (imago), Friday, 2 December 2016 18:54 (one year ago) Permalink

Dear god this is so shit and there's 67 minutes left

Dave Plaintive rapper with classical training (imago), Friday, 2 December 2016 18:56 (one year ago) Permalink

it's a fantastic band name, but the guy is a nubbin and his music blows. this thing made me want to open my veins: http://pitchfork.com/news/70175-car-seat-headrest-reviews-kanyes-repulsive-beautiful-life-of-pablo/

It’s also one of the best albums I’ve heard in a long time — and one of the most beautiful. It’s very strange. My younger self would never have tolerated an album this reprehensible, this unrepentantly egotistical, yet I’ve probably listened to it more times this year than anything, aside from David Bowie’s Blackstar. Why? Well, it’s just good.

fuck off

flappy bird, Friday, 2 December 2016 18:57 (one year ago) Permalink

just good music

Dave Plaintive rapper with classical training (imago), Friday, 2 December 2016 18:59 (one year ago) Permalink

he's like 19 years old, right?

flopson, Friday, 2 December 2016 18:59 (one year ago) Permalink

oh here's an eight minute song. we all needed this

Dave Plaintive rapper with classical training (imago), Friday, 2 December 2016 18:59 (one year ago) Permalink

age is just a number man

Dave Plaintive rapper with classical training (imago), Friday, 2 December 2016 19:00 (one year ago) Permalink

i just mean, i'm glad no one was putting 19 year old me's ilx posts on p4k

flopson, Friday, 2 December 2016 19:04 (one year ago) Permalink

oh totally. i posted the most colossal amount of shit when i was nineteen (and thereafter) as you're all aware, but the fittingly hardline response has meant that my idiot quotient is nowadays limited mostly to irascible liveblogs of indie rock. in a similar way i hope car seat headrest guy reads my posts and maybe changes how he makes music, or even gives up entirely

Dave Plaintive rapper with classical training (imago), Friday, 2 December 2016 19:09 (one year ago) Permalink

'destroyed by hippie powers' is ok though i guess

Dave Plaintive rapper with classical training (imago), Friday, 2 December 2016 19:10 (one year ago) Permalink

oh god

Dave Plaintive rapper with classical training (imago), Friday, 2 December 2016 19:10 (one year ago) Permalink

he's 24

flappy bird, Friday, 2 December 2016 19:37 (one year ago) Permalink

i hate this record. once in a while it's pretty decent power pop but the songs are endless

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Friday, 2 December 2016 19:54 (one year ago) Permalink

I'm on the same boat... no sound dynamics at all... some good moments but no fun at all to be had.

Moka, Friday, 2 December 2016 20:18 (one year ago) Permalink

this............isn't bad

Dave Plaintive rapper with classical training (imago), Friday, 2 December 2016 21:38 (one year ago) Permalink

Yeah they are in totally different categories. Watching high school basketball games is fun but it's not the nba

Treeship, Thursday, 8 December 2016 23:20 (one year ago) Permalink

That said the people viciously criticizing car seat headrest are heartless monsters

Treeship, Thursday, 8 December 2016 23:22 (one year ago) Permalink

Tobias Jesso Jr will possibly end up as an industry songwriter - he's written stuff with Sia, Adele and John Legend already

art baengels (monotony), Friday, 9 December 2016 00:44 (one year ago) Permalink

Like the Semisonic dude

blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 9 December 2016 00:49 (one year ago) Permalink

and Desmond Child

Wimmels, Friday, 9 December 2016 00:49 (one year ago) Permalink

Lucy Dacus is sort of an indie-folk PJ Harvey, which I guess is a bit more original than Car Seat's 80s and 90s retro rock, although sometimes he's more catchy than her despite being derivative

curmudgeon, Friday, 9 December 2016 04:43 (one year ago) Permalink

there's no reason the intro to Vincent had to be 2 minutes

but it's the best part of the song :P

niels, Saturday, 10 December 2016 17:36 (one year ago) Permalink

how is it possible no one has mentioned toledo has listened to much modern lovers way too much

F♯ A♯ (∞), Friday, 16 December 2016 19:38 (one year ago) Permalink

One band not mentioned as an influence (possibly because they weren't on Matador) is Archers of Loaf, and his vocals sometimes sound like Bachman in subdued mode, as do some of the more anthemic bits of the better songs. I like a few tracks on this a lot, think he'd be better with a better band but that might be coming, and don't see any reason to dislike him for not being more than he is.

dlp9001, Tuesday, 27 December 2016 02:11 (one year ago) Permalink

This squonk wishes he was half as good as Archers of Loaf

dance cum rituals (Moka), Tuesday, 27 December 2016 05:13 (one year ago) Permalink

half would be generous

blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 27 December 2016 14:30 (one year ago) Permalink

I love AoL, but really don't see the need to run this guy down. He's put out a pretty good throwback indie rock album in 2016. Of all the people to criticize, he seems pretty low on the list. It's a catchy album, decent band, decent recordings, and Butterglory got an awful lot of press back in the day. (And I still like them ok as well). Just seems silly for this band, of all bands, to have a backlash at all.

dlp9001, Tuesday, 27 December 2016 18:32 (one year ago) Permalink

Wait ... what does Butterglory have to do with this? I'm missing something.

alpine static, Tuesday, 27 December 2016 19:48 (one year ago) Permalink

can we run down people whose idea of rock is so narrow that this is the album that determines how good of a year it was for it

a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Tuesday, 27 December 2016 20:42 (one year ago) Permalink

like with a car?

blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 27 December 2016 20:52 (one year ago) Permalink

throw car seat headrests at them

F♯ A♯ (∞), Tuesday, 27 December 2016 21:06 (one year ago) Permalink

one year passes...

i don't think this is necessarily "more of the same" indie nonsense, it's clearly got some sense of ambition, i just think that ambition actively detracts from the songcraft, which is merely ok

― who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Thursday, December 8, 2016 5:11 PM (one year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this is doubly true of the twin fantasy remake that just came out

lowercase (eric), Friday, 16 February 2018 15:38 (six months ago) Permalink

it's so so bloated! the original was long enough at an hour and then he added another 11 minutes onto it

ufo, Friday, 16 February 2018 15:42 (six months ago) Permalink

Only on my first listen but I can't tell if this record is amazing or an overindulgent mess. There are great moments in it and I like its "this-record-will-save-your-teenage-self"'s level of ambition, but aahhhh I just wish he'd write a strong, simple hook - something that so many other bands can do with songs that aren't 12 minutes long. It's a good record and I understand it's appeal, but it's emotional weight doesn't always translate into greatness. Also that "I am a good person" monologue is cringeworthy as hell

josh az (2011nostalgia), Sunday, 18 February 2018 20:25 (six months ago) Permalink

someone should edit his stuff down and put it on Bandcamp like that one dude did with JT's 20/20 Experience

alpine static, Sunday, 18 February 2018 21:22 (six months ago) Permalink

three months pass...

i...quite like this

whyyy

imago, Thursday, 7 June 2018 13:18 (two months ago) Permalink

like, much more than TOD which imo wasn't very good

imago, Thursday, 7 June 2018 13:23 (two months ago) Permalink

super into twin fantasy, "Body's" in particular.

campreverb, Thursday, 7 June 2018 14:40 (two months ago) Permalink

Skimming thru this thread, I'm surprised at the reactions to "ToD"... I thought that album was absolutely terrific -- big, ambitious, funny, anthemic, audacious, self-effacing; great/quotable lyrics ("I felt like a walking piece of shit / In a stupid-looking jacket"; "The effects are so good these days / If there were gears behind those big brown eyes, I wouldn't be able to tell the difference"); hot production, super rockin', "1937 State Park" blasting at full volume; really "going for it," not afraid to be corny or "mainstream"; communicating "big ideas" through crowd-pleasing rock 'n roll in a way that very popular rock artists did in decades past but seems to have fallen out of favor recently (...I'm aware I may be setting myself up with that last one).

The fact that it sounds "like '90s indie rock" seemed incidental to how great it was -- though I admit that I love '90s indie rock, and that very well may have helped!

I also dug the "Twin Fantasy" redo, but have only listened to it a few times....

i’m still stanning (morrisp), Thursday, 7 June 2018 16:50 (two months ago) Permalink

That chorus on '1937 State Park' pulls off the very rare vulnerable/anthemic and blows me away every time.

campreverb, Thursday, 7 June 2018 17:24 (two months ago) Permalink

that's the one song i like off tod, i appreciate the inward digging his stuff aims for but that track besides it feels mostly like inward trudging

lowercase (eric), Thursday, 7 June 2018 17:26 (two months ago) Permalink

is there a new album

flopson, Friday, 8 June 2018 01:36 (two months ago) Permalink

Another lyric I love:

I’ve been waiting all my life
I’ve been waiting for some real good porn
Something with meaning, something fulfilling
I’d like to make my shame count for something


I feel like there’s something (half-)ironic, or subtly tongue-in-cheek, about the pathos on this album — a gentle, straight-faced mocking of his own drama — which elevates the proceedings, and is part of why the lyrics are so great. I guess Lou Barlow presents a rough precedent for this kind of “dry self-awareness about the singer’s own melodrama.”

By contrast, the lyrics of Twin Fantasy are more straight-up emo (Will was actually a teen when he wrote them, no?) — but still very good!

i’m still stanning (morrisp), Saturday, 9 June 2018 06:33 (two months ago) Permalink

(One thing to add is that I’m not usually much of a “lyrics guy” — but Will Headrest’s lyrics are so good, I find myself really aware of & focusing on them.)

i’m still stanning (morrisp), Saturday, 9 June 2018 06:39 (two months ago) Permalink

there's an eye for detail that reminds me a lot of Courtney Barnett actually.
In the 'I did not transcend, I felt like a walking piece of shit in a stupid looking jacket' the jacket lyric so perfectly captures the feeling of alienation.

campreverb, Saturday, 9 June 2018 15:47 (two months ago) Permalink

...and she’s my other current rock fave!!

i’m still stanning (morrisp), Saturday, 9 June 2018 15:53 (two months ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

The "new" one is a great record, IMO... it and the new Parquet Courts have been enough to scratch any "indie rock" itches this year.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 15:06 (one month ago) Permalink

while this is good, what you just wrote is hideously incurious and lazy

imago, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 15:09 (one month ago) Permalink

also fuck parquet courts

imago, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 15:09 (one month ago) Permalink

Yeah, but I don't give a fuck what you think.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 15:10 (one month ago) Permalink

you're such a dull cunt

imago, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 15:11 (one month ago) Permalink

Also, the new Arctic Monkeys album is one of their finest yet - it's been a decent year for this kind of stuff.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 15:12 (one month ago) Permalink

'this kind of stuff' - would you seriously call the CSH album the same 'kind of stuff' as the AM album ffs

imago, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 15:13 (one month ago) Permalink

No, but I'd call you a dull cunt.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 15:15 (one month ago) Permalink

GOAL TURRICAN (Turrican)

Turrican 1 - 1 imago

The Northerner responds just a minute later, in identical fashion - a scrappy equaliser, but they all c(o)unt!

imago, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 15:19 (one month ago) Permalink

Like, keep hinging your entire existence in presenting to the internet how esoteric you think your tastes are in order to draw attention to yourself in some sort of "please love and respect me" exercise and perhaps one day - you can only hope - some poor deluded fucker will ram their tongue straight up your shitpipe.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 15:19 (one month ago) Permalink

Buoyed by the goal, Turrican knocks it around confidently in midfield. The crowd have started to find their voice!

imago, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 15:21 (one month ago) Permalink

^ Imagospeak for "Look at me, internet people! Please tongue my shitpipe. Anybody!"

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 15:24 (one month ago) Permalink

It's starting to get a bit repetitive and momentum has been lost. The crowd starts to drift out, unsatisfied

imago, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 15:29 (one month ago) Permalink

^ Your lasses glittering review of your bedroom technique.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 15:33 (one month ago) Permalink

omg just make out already

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 15:33 (one month ago) Permalink

Those Boys

imago, Wednesday, 27 June 2018 15:34 (one month ago) Permalink

Anyway, while I can't help but wonder what happened in his life that he ended up like this in the first place, I wish LJ well in his quest to convince the entire internet to kiss his arse, I really do.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 15:40 (one month ago) Permalink

(Not holding my breath, though.)

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 15:40 (one month ago) Permalink

I <3 a good Britfight

i’m still stanning (morrisp), Wednesday, 27 June 2018 16:19 (one month ago) Permalink


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