Vektroid, Macintosh Plus, New Dreams Ltd., 情報デスクVIRTUAL, Laserdisc Visions, Fuji Grid TV, PrismCorp Virtual Enterprises, esc 不在, etc...

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I know we've got the dedicated Vaporwave and this woman is responsible for like 75% of the genre. But I think she should have a separate thread anyway.

On a whim I decided to check out some stuff on her Bandcamp and downloaded the album Neo Cali. As far as I can tell there is a lot of original music on it, it has this great sort of Miami Vice feel but with dance beats. Hard to describe but I think I'm addicted to it. I also grabbed the Laserdisc Visions album and it's almost everything I ever wanted out of this genre, so strangely impersonal and gorgeous.

Anyone able to recommend some more stuff? Her discography is insane, even though I'm pretty sure she's only like 25 years old (and she took a couple years off!) - how does she do it???

frogbs, Wednesday, 10 August 2016 12:54 (three years ago) link

one of the key artists of the decade for sure.

Treeship, Wednesday, 10 August 2016 13:14 (three years ago) link

She wrote Floral Shoppe when she was 19-20? Pretty cool prolific savant. However, her sound feels constrained to the genre; I wish she'd branch out more stylistically. For instance, RDJ, another prolific wunderkind, had conquered acid house, ambient music, jungle, noise and glitch and even industrial electronic music styles in a span of 5 years while inventing a few genres on the side.

octobeard, Wednesday, 10 August 2016 15:46 (three years ago) link

yeh floral shoppe is the bomb
don't know a few of the aliases mentioned above, will check the output

nxd, Wednesday, 10 August 2016 15:54 (three years ago) link

polytravelers is a great minimal ambient album and pretty atypical compared to her other stuff. Degraded/timestretched piano samples and stuff, more along the lines of William Basinski or Leland Kirby etc

I really like her album as Sacred Tapestry too.. It's like a half-conscious vaporwave nightmare..

brimstead, Thursday, 11 August 2016 00:03 (three years ago) link

There's a couple new things on her bandcamp site... a comp of unreleased recordings and something else

brimstead, Thursday, 11 August 2016 00:05 (three years ago) link

For instance, RDJ, another prolific wunderkind, had conquered acid house, ambient music, jungle, noise and glitch and even industrial electronic music styles in a span of 5 years while inventing a few genres on the side.

Oh god this is why I don't have ILM in my SNA isn't it

Damn you, Zing Touch

El Tomboto, Thursday, 11 August 2016 00:12 (three years ago) link

Go away

brimstead, Thursday, 11 August 2016 00:41 (three years ago) link

i'd like to see her sound evolve on its own into something completely different but still totally her own. this would be better than "branching out" for its own sake. better to go deep than wide

Treeship, Thursday, 11 August 2016 01:10 (three years ago) link

why is her stuff so elusive and odd and yet so compulsively listenable? because it is

I mean, sure, there are parts of that 17 hour album that are just already cool music slowed down and reverbed out (pretty shameless to just chop n screw Oval, but hey), but still: she has a gift, there's no denying it

the tune was space, Thursday, 11 August 2016 01:52 (three years ago) link

Ty frogbs, totally on board w/ this thread, especially because I've so much to still discover of hers and related music. Will read 'n learn.

Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 11 August 2016 11:13 (three years ago) link

I must have been out to lunch a little too long, but just hearing this stuff for the first time today and really enjoying it.

calstars, Sunday, 14 August 2016 01:37 (three years ago) link

Thinking of pioneering "yacht vapor" which draws inspiration and content from loggins, mcdonald and the pocaros.

calstars, Sunday, 14 August 2016 01:40 (three years ago) link

Track 3 on floral shop is my jam

calstars, Sunday, 14 August 2016 02:46 (three years ago) link

eight months pass...

However, her sound feels constrained to the genre; I wish she'd branch out more stylistically. For instance, RDJ, another prolific wunderkind, had conquered acid house, ambient music, jungle, noise and glitch and even industrial electronic music styles in a span of 5 years while inventing a few genres on the side.

Only if you listen to her more well-known stuff - I think her discography is really diverse once you jump into it. Don't forget she had amassed a fairly large catalogue of drum n' bass, ambient, IDM, and glitch-type stuff before she even turned 19. Some of her recent albums are quite frankly unclassifiable. Even amongst her vaporwave stuff, it's not all samey the way a lot of this stuff tends to be. New Dreams Ltd, 情報デスクVIRTUAL, PrismCorp Virtual Enterprises, Macintosh Plus, and Laserdisc Visions all have a fairly distinct concept about them.

Anyway just popped into this thread to say I really dig the way she's been remixing/re-releasing her back catalogue over the last few years. It's kind of a nightmare for those who try to sort out and collect this stuff but it's pretty neat to see "completed" versions of albums she did years ago; for example the "Isle of Avalon Edition" of the New Dreams Ltd. Initiation Tape, which mixes in some of the esc不在 stuff, or the recent Telnet Complete (highly recommended, btw) which takes the original EP, remixes/re-edits everything, and sandwiches it all between 12 new tracks. Or the cassette version of the Laserdisc Visions album, which I think cuts everything with snippets of the Fuji Grid TV album in the background. Or whatever the hell she did to that Sacred Tapestry album. I can't think of another artist who does stuff like this, especially not someone this prolific. It's like what might've happened if Zappa was around in the age of Bandcamp.

frogbs, Monday, 24 April 2017 21:51 (three years ago) link

appreciate your thoughts and recommendations as always frogbs

calstars, Monday, 24 April 2017 22:55 (three years ago) link

I find it hard to think and express something about her that I'm confident about, but I like her sense of harmony, as in that Tortoise one mentioned on the vaporwave thread and "Saudade" on Telnet

calstars, Thursday, 27 April 2017 00:55 (three years ago) link

She's really good at naming stuff. I don't mean for that to sound like a backhanded compliment, but it's true. Every one of her albums has a kick-ass tracklisting.

Here's a particular track I like. It's from Starcalc, which is sort of hit-or-miss, as though she's finding her feet a little. But this track rules. The way all the elements come together here is pretty incredible.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Pu4TbxkabI

(by the way, a huge chunk of this album is essentially a remix of the "Information Desk" theme from Lego Island, including this track...how cool is that??)

frogbs, Thursday, 27 April 2017 12:58 (three years ago) link

That's a good one. I also dig "Yr Mind" from that album, which is more atmospheric

calstars, Thursday, 27 April 2017 19:02 (three years ago) link

from upthread

>(pretty shameless to just chop n screw Oval, but hey)

shameless or perceptive? I think she knows what's going on

By the way, the rumor that a good number of the samples (on systemisch) were generated from Aphex Twins "Selected Ambient Works II" is correct.
Piece number nine on systemisch is a complete Aphex Twin piece, which was scanned backwards through a CD Haenger. We put a ten second delay on the stereo tracks and then added an effect on top of that.

http://www.meso.net/oval/metzger.html

Milton Parker, Thursday, 27 April 2017 19:20 (three years ago) link

kind of wondering what tune that was referring to. I can't think of anything in her catalogue that sounds like chopped n screwed Oval, though admittedly I've only heard like...40% of her output. she did remix some SAWII tracks in the early days though.

for the record the 情報デスクVIRTUAL album is the shameless one. I love how most of the reviews remarked about how she had found this treasure trove of forgotten infomercial and hold music when it's like...no, this is literally just John Tesh and David Sanborn, almost totally unaltered.

frogbs, Thursday, 27 April 2017 19:27 (three years ago) link

two weeks pass...

http://vektroid.bandcamp.com/album/initiation-tape-isle-of-avalon-edition

Aurora 3D is pretty beautiful

calstars, Friday, 12 May 2017 22:52 (three years ago) link

http://vektroid.bandcamp.com/album/dream-castle

Haven't seen this one discussed here
Original ambient compositions as far as I can tell

calstars, Tuesday, 16 May 2017 00:06 (three years ago) link

yea that was sort of the "lost" Vektroid album for a long time. I think it was supposed to be released on some other vapordude's label but it never happened, so it just floated around on mp3 for a while. I grabbed it from Bandcamp a few months ago, it's nice but not quite as striking as Polytravellers. the sound design on it is really something though, can't quite pinpoint another album that hits that "taped over 1000 times" aesthetic

frogbs, Tuesday, 16 May 2017 13:55 (three years ago) link

I couldn't get into Polytravellers , at least the windows safari and sphinx bits. And not familiar enough with starcalc yet (though it was one of the first of hers I bought) to be able to isolate the polymind tracks.

calstars, Wednesday, 17 May 2017 00:59 (three years ago) link

ah dream castle is awesome :)

nxd, Wednesday, 17 May 2017 10:07 (three years ago) link

There are big gaps in my hearing of her entire output, but Initiation / Avalon seems to be her most consistent enjoyable

calstars, Monday, 29 May 2017 18:01 (three years ago) link

haven't heard the Avalon edition but I believe that one adds in bits from the ESC 不在 albums if I'm not mistaken. btw fun fact about Black Horse, nearly half the tracks sample Chris DeBurgh, including one which samples "The Lady in Red" but cleverly cuts around the "nobody here" bit. considering this was before even Floral Shoppe it's amusing how meta this genre got right off the bat.

frogbs, Thursday, 1 June 2017 20:59 (three years ago) link

ok so I've played Color Ocean Road about ten times in the past week, holy hell is this pushing all the right buttons

frogbs, Monday, 12 June 2017 20:05 (three years ago) link

Never heard that one. Will look it up (and down)

calstars, Monday, 12 June 2017 20:06 (three years ago) link

three months pass...

I think Initiation Tape; Avalon is her best. "Cold Water" is a real stand out for me. Haven't heard the original yet.

calstars, Friday, 29 September 2017 02:32 (two years ago) link

one month passes...

She seems to very proud of / pushing the new one (seed and synthetic earth) pretty hard.
Highlights for me are Hostage Earth and Endless Jump

calstars, Saturday, 11 November 2017 06:54 (two years ago) link

it's a banger alright

she's teasing like 4-5 different albums at once and then just out of nowhere releases something totally different, it's pretty awesome

frogbs, Sunday, 12 November 2017 04:42 (two years ago) link

yeh this album rules
'we need to talk' is my personal fav but 'hostage earth' so good too

nxd, Monday, 13 November 2017 09:56 (two years ago) link

man 'moebius blue' is such a joy
i really wanna listen to it on a bouncy castle

nxd, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 14:49 (two years ago) link

The 7-note quote on that one of “love is all I have to give” throws me off

calstars, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 15:20 (two years ago) link

one month passes...

Currently obsessed with Shader, this album is really doing my head in. It kind of brings together a lot of the disparate threads in her work - samples from old Japanese commercials, OPN-style Juno synth work, a bouncy take on "Sushi Plaza" from Color Ocean Road, and a 13 minute long dark ambient deconstruction of the Mac Plus "420" track. It's great how Vek's stuff is so sample-heavy and usually follows the lead of Lopatin or James Ferraro but at the same time sounds so utterly unique - like in some way this is a counterpoint to OPN's Replica but it's also its own thing, no one else could have made an album quite like this. It's such a great late night slip-into-the-negative-world kinda album.

And then the next thing she puts out are the PrismCorp albums, which I believe are drawn directly from the demo tracks of an old Yamaha. She really is amazing.

frogbs, Thursday, 21 December 2017 14:23 (two years ago) link

^^yes, love shader, it a really eerie album, and i agree it's a great original fusion of her different strands

brimstead, Thursday, 21 December 2017 15:52 (two years ago) link

like in some way this is a counterpoint to OPN's Replica but it's also its own thing, no one else could have made an album quite like this. It's such a great late night slip-into-the-negative-world kinda album.

really well put, i think it's daring and exciting how DEEP it goes into this sort of extreme-Replica dream zone

brimstead, Thursday, 21 December 2017 15:54 (two years ago) link

Hypnagogic for sure
Shader vs Shader Complete - which is better? I have both but have yet to do a deep dive comparison

calstars, Thursday, 21 December 2017 16:06 (two years ago) link

Cosmorama is my OPO on the album

calstars, Thursday, 21 December 2017 16:07 (two years ago) link

nine months pass...

oh man, these look cool. probably gonna have to pick up Shader.

.@Vektroid reissues New Dreams Ltd. and Sacred Tapestry albums on vinyl via @AguirreRecordshttps://t.co/A9fRtOl8Yv pic.twitter.com/CeTGBlMB3d

— Tiny Mix Tapes (@tinymixtapes) October 17, 2018

frogbs, Friday, 19 October 2018 03:26 (one year ago) link

did you get macintosh plus on white vinyl

the late great, Friday, 19 October 2018 03:41 (one year ago) link

floral shoppe w/ 22 x 22 commemorative poster

the late great, Friday, 19 October 2018 03:43 (one year ago) link

vektroid is brilliant

Trϵϵship, Friday, 19 October 2018 03:45 (one year ago) link

Print article on Ramona from a Portland weekly:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Vaporwave/comments/9p0g02/vektroid_article_in_portlands_wweek_paper/?st=JNFNRWG9&sh=d3a162ff

calstars, Friday, 19 October 2018 06:55 (one year ago) link

That's a good interview. About a year ago she announced that she had like six albums in development, I kinda wonder where that's at now. I don't blame her for wanting to branch away from music for a while, she definitely feels like a "multimedia artist" with a pretty clear aesthetic that she's trying to nail down. On the other hand she feels like someone who could drop something insane and revolutionary at any time. In light of some of her recent stuff like Midnight Run and Seed & Synthetic Earth it's kind of amazing that she doesn't actually know how to play anything. But that's kind of what makes her work fascinating, isn't it? It's more curation than composition. Wasn't that part of the appeal behind Macintosh Plus - "anyone could do this" ?

btw I did manage to get one of the Floral Shoppe vinyls - took like six months to arrive but I got it. I'm not particularly fond of the album but it felt like a very cool thing to have.

frogbs, Friday, 19 October 2018 13:48 (one year ago) link

On the other hand she feels like someone who could drop something insane and revolutionary at any time.

Yeah. I personally don't care much for video/3d art and would much prefer new audio material from her, but I can see why she'd want to venture into new terrain. And perhaps while her music is very much appreciated being a curator of music rather than composer - as you put eloquently - it's just not that satisfying to keep on doing? Idk.

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 19 October 2018 13:56 (one year ago) link

oh dear, here's a version of that interview that's more readable

https://www.wweek.com/music/2018/10/18/vaporwave-pioneer-vektroid-can-do-so-much-more-than-music/

i think it's good that she's taking a step back and developing in new directions, she's obviously very talented but it's easy to hit a dead end in that kind of creative work (i would say eno, for instance, who also characterizes himself as not a musician, has hit a creative dead end).

the show tomorrow sounds interesting but i probably am not going to go

dub pilates (rushomancy), Friday, 19 October 2018 14:04 (one year ago) link

im sure i ordered one of the floral shoppe records but have no idea if itll ever come haha

nxd, Friday, 19 October 2018 14:12 (one year ago) link

f'in love "you need a hero", cheers my friend

brimstead, Sunday, 17 March 2019 23:37 (one year ago) link

I like her music. I just found her Twitch thanks to you, calstars... and she's just playing a video game. Not even talking?

maffew12, Sunday, 17 March 2019 23:50 (one year ago) link

Isn't that what twitch is?

brimstead, Sunday, 17 March 2019 23:59 (one year ago) link

haha I'm not sure. Don't most streamers at least talk? Wondering the appeal here. That could be anybody.

maffew12, Monday, 18 March 2019 00:02 (one year ago) link

Well half the appeal for me at least is the music selection , it’s like she djs random Midi sh1t wiith other choice cuts

calstars, Monday, 18 March 2019 00:26 (one year ago) link

oh cool yeah there is music now. When I first checked, it was only game sound effects

maffew12, Monday, 18 March 2019 00:30 (one year ago) link

"idgi, she's literally just playing a bunch of '80s yacht rock songs at half speed and calling it vaporwave" vs. "idgi, she's literally just playing a bunch of '90s PC games without any commentary and calling it a livestream"

lispectah deck (unregistered), Monday, 18 March 2019 00:42 (one year ago) link

hahaha

maffew12, Monday, 18 March 2019 00:44 (one year ago) link

... and now I've made an account to help her out with some Linux distro advice. calstars you really made my evening.

maffew12, Monday, 18 March 2019 00:47 (one year ago) link

Beats watching Netflix for sure

calstars, Monday, 18 March 2019 00:54 (one year ago) link

let's not go crazy

maffew12, Monday, 18 March 2019 00:58 (one year ago) link

one month passes...

Floral Shoppe made PitchforK
https://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/macintosh-plus-floral-shoppe/

calstars, Tuesday, 23 April 2019 01:18 (one year ago) link

“It’s your move” really is an amazing song, slowed down or not

brimstead, Tuesday, 23 April 2019 02:15 (one year ago) link

one month passes...

She’s been talking and been on cam for the last week or so (getting comfortable is how I think she put it) , been going through the k-mart tapes and isolating the good bits

calstars, Tuesday, 4 June 2019 18:59 (one year ago) link

Do you have a link to her twitch?

Uptown VONC (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 4 June 2019 19:04 (one year ago) link

https://m.twitch.tv/waterfallvoyeur/videos

google

brimstead, Tuesday, 4 June 2019 20:00 (one year ago) link

tried googling her name plus twitch, didn't take. thx.

Uptown VONC (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 4 June 2019 20:02 (one year ago) link

no prob 👍

brimstead, Tuesday, 4 June 2019 20:03 (one year ago) link

So this happened

im...cancelling netflix pic.twitter.com/PJmTXe03nK

— kitty (@kittaveli) June 4, 2019

calstars, Thursday, 6 June 2019 14:06 (one year ago) link

omg

Uptown VONC (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 6 June 2019 14:32 (one year ago) link

two months pass...

I'd completely forgotten that she released an album under the moniker "Peace Forever Eternal" 2 years ago, I'm listening now and uh...what the hell

frogbs, Wednesday, 14 August 2019 14:52 (eleven months ago) link

Love the volume adjustments on dis 1:
https://vektroid.bandcamp.com/track/drftrzz

calstars, Saturday, 17 August 2019 23:17 (eleven months ago) link

one month passes...

Seed & Synthetic Earth so damn good, it's like an imaginary JRPG soundtrack combined with QVC disco music. its the album she's been hinting at since the very beginning. unfortunately I think it got buried somewhat because she was releasing so much. I bet if she dropped it right now it would've gotten way more attention.

frogbs, Wednesday, 9 October 2019 14:32 (nine months ago) link

Unfortunately I like her plunderphonics stuff much more than her originals

calstars, Wednesday, 9 October 2019 17:26 (nine months ago) link

two months pass...

Big stuff happening tomorrow.

— Vektroid (@Vektroid) December 19, 2019

frogbs, Friday, 20 December 2019 00:20 (seven months ago) link

Yup yup!

calstars, Friday, 20 December 2019 00:27 (seven months ago) link

I wrote another Macintosh Plus album.

— Vektroid (@Vektroid) December 20, 2019

nxd, Friday, 20 December 2019 21:51 (seven months ago) link

I mean, who the fuck can say, I guess. But I've spent a long long time now trying to figure out how to leave a legacy that's worth more than fucking Floral Shoppe and I've decided the best route is to make the most opposite sounding music possible. So.

— Vektroid (@Vektroid) December 20, 2019

calstars, Friday, 20 December 2019 22:05 (seven months ago) link

hahah yep this does not sound like Floral Shoppe

frogbs, Friday, 20 December 2019 22:16 (seven months ago) link

pic.twitter.com/iyivMLaD2Q

— Vektroid (@Vektroid) December 20, 2019

calstars, Saturday, 21 December 2019 00:09 (seven months ago) link

The era of anonymity in vwave is really at an end, besides vek I can cite hke and internet club and some of the acts at electronicon as other examples who have really come forward this year on social media or in live performances in a way they hadn’t before. Telepath remains a notable exception.

calstars, Saturday, 21 December 2019 00:12 (seven months ago) link

album better be titled Return of the Mac

frogbs, Saturday, 21 December 2019 03:30 (seven months ago) link

What do we think of this New one?

calstars, Saturday, 21 December 2019 17:12 (seven months ago) link

when she was teasing No Earth she made it sound like it was an opus that combined a bunch of elements from her recent works, and that's pretty much what this is. my speculation is that the muted response to Seed & Synthetic Earth made her think twice about putting out something major under the Vektroid label and since she knows that anything released under the "Macintosh Plus" name would get way more engagement I think that this new album might be what No Earth was supposed to be. for what its worth the single's already got about as many ratings on RYM as the last album did. I think it's pretty good but I'll definitely need a few more listens...its by far the most scatterbrained 12 minute single I've heard this year

frogbs, Saturday, 21 December 2019 21:04 (seven months ago) link

guess I was half rright

FULL ALBUM LATER IN 2020. SISTER PROJECT TO NO EARTH. BOTH ALBUMS 2CDS EACH, MAYBE 3CD. DEPENDS HOW HARD I CONSOLIDATE.

frogbs, Wednesday, 1 January 2020 00:08 (seven months ago) link

one month passes...

https://i.imgur.com/61vga00.jpg

ncxkd, Sunday, 23 February 2020 04:26 (five months ago) link

one month passes...

shes doing a livestream working in Abelton, showing off new tracks and such, pretty interesting stuff

I've heard two new tracks, they're very much in the S&SE vein

frogbs, Friday, 17 April 2020 18:10 (three months ago) link

three weeks pass...

Back on stream working on an ambient album ?!

calstars, Friday, 8 May 2020 00:59 (two months ago) link

(It’s not very ambient lol )

calstars, Friday, 8 May 2020 01:08 (two months ago) link

thanks! forgot about the Twitch notification i got earlier. This is sounding interesting right now. Loads of Ableton streams lately. Looking forward to releases

maffew12, Friday, 8 May 2020 01:16 (two months ago) link

https://www.twitch.tv/vektroidlive

maffew12, Friday, 8 May 2020 01:17 (two months ago) link

wow @ [1987] Portable Rock ‎– Dance Volunteer - 9. キュートな事情

Milton Parker, Friday, 8 May 2020 02:31 (two months ago) link

yeah I've hopped in a couple of these and there are definitely some neat things coming up. I kinda hope she doesn't just dump a whole bunch of stuff at once b/c things tend to get ignored that way.

kinda funny how she's openly like "yeah I'm pretty stoned when I make this stuff and you should be when you hear it"

frogbs, Friday, 8 May 2020 15:02 (two months ago) link

She takes volcano hits like other people snack on chips

calstars, Friday, 8 May 2020 15:20 (two months ago) link

Last nights stream was cool, she broke into the car chase in LA while working in ableton

calstars, Sunday, 10 May 2020 12:31 (two months ago) link

i finished the ambient album

— Vektroid (@Vektroid) May 15, 2020

didn't even know one was in the works

kind of excited for the new Mac Plus album. everything she's demoed from it has sounded rad and apparently it's going to be super long. and since she's using the name it'll get a lot of attention. could be a big break I hope

frogbs, Saturday, 16 May 2020 03:11 (two months ago) link

cosign!

nxd, Monday, 18 May 2020 14:48 (two months ago) link

she said the ambient album is not really ambient...and from what she's played on the stream that's truth...

I like her (original) work to some extent these days ok but she's SO GOOD at plunderphonics. I wish she'd go back in that direction but I doubt she will ever again. Like she just went through all the Kmart stuff...I mean there's hours of gold there. Telepath is another one...his screwed and chopped stuff is the best out there imho -- but now he's morphed into being a new age composer. ok...

calstars, Monday, 18 May 2020 19:12 (two months ago) link

I'd be in favor of more hybrid-type stuff like Shader or Color Ocean Road. her straight plunderphonic stuff seems like it hit a wall recently. I cannot really make heads or tails of that Peace Forever Eternal album, there are some good parts but as a whole it's just a mess. I like that she's finding her voice as a composer.

frogbs, Monday, 18 May 2020 20:21 (two months ago) link

four weeks pass...

She’s now using a modified animoji type avatar and has pitch-shifted her voice higher so it sounds like she’s just coming down from a hit of helium. Awesome

https://i.imgur.com/ihFM7qi.jpg

calstars, Monday, 15 June 2020 00:58 (one month ago) link


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