Vektroid, Macintosh Plus, New Dreams Ltd., 情報デスクVIRTUAL, Laserdisc Visions, Fuji Grid TV, PrismCorp Virtual Enterprises, esc 不在, etc...

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I know we've got the dedicated Vaporwave and this woman is responsible for like 75% of the genre. But I think she should have a separate thread anyway.

On a whim I decided to check out some stuff on her Bandcamp and downloaded the album Neo Cali. As far as I can tell there is a lot of original music on it, it has this great sort of Miami Vice feel but with dance beats. Hard to describe but I think I'm addicted to it. I also grabbed the Laserdisc Visions album and it's almost everything I ever wanted out of this genre, so strangely impersonal and gorgeous.

Anyone able to recommend some more stuff? Her discography is insane, even though I'm pretty sure she's only like 25 years old (and she took a couple years off!) - how does she do it???

frogbs, Wednesday, 10 August 2016 12:54 (two years ago) Permalink

one of the key artists of the decade for sure.

Treeship, Wednesday, 10 August 2016 13:14 (two years ago) Permalink

She wrote Floral Shoppe when she was 19-20? Pretty cool prolific savant. However, her sound feels constrained to the genre; I wish she'd branch out more stylistically. For instance, RDJ, another prolific wunderkind, had conquered acid house, ambient music, jungle, noise and glitch and even industrial electronic music styles in a span of 5 years while inventing a few genres on the side.

octobeard, Wednesday, 10 August 2016 15:46 (two years ago) Permalink

yeh floral shoppe is the bomb
don't know a few of the aliases mentioned above, will check the output

nxd, Wednesday, 10 August 2016 15:54 (two years ago) Permalink

polytravelers is a great minimal ambient album and pretty atypical compared to her other stuff. Degraded/timestretched piano samples and stuff, more along the lines of William Basinski or Leland Kirby etc

I really like her album as Sacred Tapestry too.. It's like a half-conscious vaporwave nightmare..

brimstead, Thursday, 11 August 2016 00:03 (two years ago) Permalink

There's a couple new things on her bandcamp site... a comp of unreleased recordings and something else

brimstead, Thursday, 11 August 2016 00:05 (two years ago) Permalink

For instance, RDJ, another prolific wunderkind, had conquered acid house, ambient music, jungle, noise and glitch and even industrial electronic music styles in a span of 5 years while inventing a few genres on the side.

Oh god this is why I don't have ILM in my SNA isn't it

Damn you, Zing Touch

El Tomboto, Thursday, 11 August 2016 00:12 (two years ago) Permalink

Go away

brimstead, Thursday, 11 August 2016 00:41 (two years ago) Permalink

i'd like to see her sound evolve on its own into something completely different but still totally her own. this would be better than "branching out" for its own sake. better to go deep than wide

Treeship, Thursday, 11 August 2016 01:10 (two years ago) Permalink

why is her stuff so elusive and odd and yet so compulsively listenable? because it is

I mean, sure, there are parts of that 17 hour album that are just already cool music slowed down and reverbed out (pretty shameless to just chop n screw Oval, but hey), but still: she has a gift, there's no denying it

the tune was space, Thursday, 11 August 2016 01:52 (two years ago) Permalink

Ty frogbs, totally on board w/ this thread, especially because I've so much to still discover of hers and related music. Will read 'n learn.

Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 11 August 2016 11:13 (two years ago) Permalink

I must have been out to lunch a little too long, but just hearing this stuff for the first time today and really enjoying it.

calstars, Sunday, 14 August 2016 01:37 (two years ago) Permalink

Thinking of pioneering "yacht vapor" which draws inspiration and content from loggins, mcdonald and the pocaros.

calstars, Sunday, 14 August 2016 01:40 (two years ago) Permalink

Track 3 on floral shop is my jam

calstars, Sunday, 14 August 2016 02:46 (two years ago) Permalink

eight months pass...

However, her sound feels constrained to the genre; I wish she'd branch out more stylistically. For instance, RDJ, another prolific wunderkind, had conquered acid house, ambient music, jungle, noise and glitch and even industrial electronic music styles in a span of 5 years while inventing a few genres on the side.

Only if you listen to her more well-known stuff - I think her discography is really diverse once you jump into it. Don't forget she had amassed a fairly large catalogue of drum n' bass, ambient, IDM, and glitch-type stuff before she even turned 19. Some of her recent albums are quite frankly unclassifiable. Even amongst her vaporwave stuff, it's not all samey the way a lot of this stuff tends to be. New Dreams Ltd, 情報デスクVIRTUAL, PrismCorp Virtual Enterprises, Macintosh Plus, and Laserdisc Visions all have a fairly distinct concept about them.

Anyway just popped into this thread to say I really dig the way she's been remixing/re-releasing her back catalogue over the last few years. It's kind of a nightmare for those who try to sort out and collect this stuff but it's pretty neat to see "completed" versions of albums she did years ago; for example the "Isle of Avalon Edition" of the New Dreams Ltd. Initiation Tape, which mixes in some of the esc不在 stuff, or the recent Telnet Complete (highly recommended, btw) which takes the original EP, remixes/re-edits everything, and sandwiches it all between 12 new tracks. Or the cassette version of the Laserdisc Visions album, which I think cuts everything with snippets of the Fuji Grid TV album in the background. Or whatever the hell she did to that Sacred Tapestry album. I can't think of another artist who does stuff like this, especially not someone this prolific. It's like what might've happened if Zappa was around in the age of Bandcamp.

frogbs, Monday, 24 April 2017 21:51 (two years ago) Permalink

appreciate your thoughts and recommendations as always frogbs

calstars, Monday, 24 April 2017 22:55 (two years ago) Permalink

I find it hard to think and express something about her that I'm confident about, but I like her sense of harmony, as in that Tortoise one mentioned on the vaporwave thread and "Saudade" on Telnet

calstars, Thursday, 27 April 2017 00:55 (two years ago) Permalink

She's really good at naming stuff. I don't mean for that to sound like a backhanded compliment, but it's true. Every one of her albums has a kick-ass tracklisting.

Here's a particular track I like. It's from Starcalc, which is sort of hit-or-miss, as though she's finding her feet a little. But this track rules. The way all the elements come together here is pretty incredible.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Pu4TbxkabI

(by the way, a huge chunk of this album is essentially a remix of the "Information Desk" theme from Lego Island, including this track...how cool is that??)

frogbs, Thursday, 27 April 2017 12:58 (two years ago) Permalink

That's a good one. I also dig "Yr Mind" from that album, which is more atmospheric

calstars, Thursday, 27 April 2017 19:02 (two years ago) Permalink

from upthread

>(pretty shameless to just chop n screw Oval, but hey)

shameless or perceptive? I think she knows what's going on

By the way, the rumor that a good number of the samples (on systemisch) were generated from Aphex Twins "Selected Ambient Works II" is correct.
Piece number nine on systemisch is a complete Aphex Twin piece, which was scanned backwards through a CD Haenger. We put a ten second delay on the stereo tracks and then added an effect on top of that.

http://www.meso.net/oval/metzger.html

Milton Parker, Thursday, 27 April 2017 19:20 (two years ago) Permalink

kind of wondering what tune that was referring to. I can't think of anything in her catalogue that sounds like chopped n screwed Oval, though admittedly I've only heard like...40% of her output. she did remix some SAWII tracks in the early days though.

for the record the 情報デスクVIRTUAL album is the shameless one. I love how most of the reviews remarked about how she had found this treasure trove of forgotten infomercial and hold music when it's like...no, this is literally just John Tesh and David Sanborn, almost totally unaltered.

frogbs, Thursday, 27 April 2017 19:27 (two years ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

http://vektroid.bandcamp.com/album/initiation-tape-isle-of-avalon-edition

Aurora 3D is pretty beautiful

calstars, Friday, 12 May 2017 22:52 (two years ago) Permalink

http://vektroid.bandcamp.com/album/dream-castle

Haven't seen this one discussed here
Original ambient compositions as far as I can tell

calstars, Tuesday, 16 May 2017 00:06 (two years ago) Permalink

yea that was sort of the "lost" Vektroid album for a long time. I think it was supposed to be released on some other vapordude's label but it never happened, so it just floated around on mp3 for a while. I grabbed it from Bandcamp a few months ago, it's nice but not quite as striking as Polytravellers. the sound design on it is really something though, can't quite pinpoint another album that hits that "taped over 1000 times" aesthetic

frogbs, Tuesday, 16 May 2017 13:55 (two years ago) Permalink

I couldn't get into Polytravellers , at least the windows safari and sphinx bits. And not familiar enough with starcalc yet (though it was one of the first of hers I bought) to be able to isolate the polymind tracks.

calstars, Wednesday, 17 May 2017 00:59 (two years ago) Permalink

ah dream castle is awesome :)

nxd, Wednesday, 17 May 2017 10:07 (two years ago) Permalink

There are big gaps in my hearing of her entire output, but Initiation / Avalon seems to be her most consistent enjoyable

calstars, Monday, 29 May 2017 18:01 (two years ago) Permalink

haven't heard the Avalon edition but I believe that one adds in bits from the ESC 不在 albums if I'm not mistaken. btw fun fact about Black Horse, nearly half the tracks sample Chris DeBurgh, including one which samples "The Lady in Red" but cleverly cuts around the "nobody here" bit. considering this was before even Floral Shoppe it's amusing how meta this genre got right off the bat.

frogbs, Thursday, 1 June 2017 20:59 (two years ago) Permalink

ok so I've played Color Ocean Road about ten times in the past week, holy hell is this pushing all the right buttons

frogbs, Monday, 12 June 2017 20:05 (two years ago) Permalink

Never heard that one. Will look it up (and down)

calstars, Monday, 12 June 2017 20:06 (two years ago) Permalink

three months pass...

I think Initiation Tape; Avalon is her best. "Cold Water" is a real stand out for me. Haven't heard the original yet.

calstars, Friday, 29 September 2017 02:32 (one year ago) Permalink

one month passes...

She seems to very proud of / pushing the new one (seed and synthetic earth) pretty hard.
Highlights for me are Hostage Earth and Endless Jump

calstars, Saturday, 11 November 2017 06:54 (one year ago) Permalink

it's a banger alright

she's teasing like 4-5 different albums at once and then just out of nowhere releases something totally different, it's pretty awesome

frogbs, Sunday, 12 November 2017 04:42 (one year ago) Permalink

yeh this album rules
'we need to talk' is my personal fav but 'hostage earth' so good too

nxd, Monday, 13 November 2017 09:56 (one year ago) Permalink

man 'moebius blue' is such a joy
i really wanna listen to it on a bouncy castle

nxd, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 14:49 (one year ago) Permalink

The 7-note quote on that one of “love is all I have to give” throws me off

calstars, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 15:20 (one year ago) Permalink

one month passes...

Currently obsessed with Shader, this album is really doing my head in. It kind of brings together a lot of the disparate threads in her work - samples from old Japanese commercials, OPN-style Juno synth work, a bouncy take on "Sushi Plaza" from Color Ocean Road, and a 13 minute long dark ambient deconstruction of the Mac Plus "420" track. It's great how Vek's stuff is so sample-heavy and usually follows the lead of Lopatin or James Ferraro but at the same time sounds so utterly unique - like in some way this is a counterpoint to OPN's Replica but it's also its own thing, no one else could have made an album quite like this. It's such a great late night slip-into-the-negative-world kinda album.

And then the next thing she puts out are the PrismCorp albums, which I believe are drawn directly from the demo tracks of an old Yamaha. She really is amazing.

frogbs, Thursday, 21 December 2017 14:23 (one year ago) Permalink

^^yes, love shader, it a really eerie album, and i agree it's a great original fusion of her different strands

brimstead, Thursday, 21 December 2017 15:52 (one year ago) Permalink

like in some way this is a counterpoint to OPN's Replica but it's also its own thing, no one else could have made an album quite like this. It's such a great late night slip-into-the-negative-world kinda album.

really well put, i think it's daring and exciting how DEEP it goes into this sort of extreme-Replica dream zone

brimstead, Thursday, 21 December 2017 15:54 (one year ago) Permalink

Hypnagogic for sure
Shader vs Shader Complete - which is better? I have both but have yet to do a deep dive comparison

calstars, Thursday, 21 December 2017 16:06 (one year ago) Permalink

Cosmorama is my OPO on the album

calstars, Thursday, 21 December 2017 16:07 (one year ago) Permalink

nine months pass...

oh man, these look cool. probably gonna have to pick up Shader.

.@Vektroid reissues New Dreams Ltd. and Sacred Tapestry albums on vinyl via @AguirreRecordshttps://t.co/A9fRtOl8Yv pic.twitter.com/CeTGBlMB3d

— Tiny Mix Tapes (@tinymixtapes) October 17, 2018

frogbs, Friday, 19 October 2018 03:26 (seven months ago) Permalink

did you get macintosh plus on white vinyl

the late great, Friday, 19 October 2018 03:41 (seven months ago) Permalink

floral shoppe w/ 22 x 22 commemorative poster

the late great, Friday, 19 October 2018 03:43 (seven months ago) Permalink

vektroid is brilliant

Trϵϵship, Friday, 19 October 2018 03:45 (seven months ago) Permalink

Print article on Ramona from a Portland weekly:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Vaporwave/comments/9p0g02/vektroid_article_in_portlands_wweek_paper/?st=JNFNRWG9&sh=d3a162ff

calstars, Friday, 19 October 2018 06:55 (seven months ago) Permalink

That's a good interview. About a year ago she announced that she had like six albums in development, I kinda wonder where that's at now. I don't blame her for wanting to branch away from music for a while, she definitely feels like a "multimedia artist" with a pretty clear aesthetic that she's trying to nail down. On the other hand she feels like someone who could drop something insane and revolutionary at any time. In light of some of her recent stuff like Midnight Run and Seed & Synthetic Earth it's kind of amazing that she doesn't actually know how to play anything. But that's kind of what makes her work fascinating, isn't it? It's more curation than composition. Wasn't that part of the appeal behind Macintosh Plus - "anyone could do this" ?

btw I did manage to get one of the Floral Shoppe vinyls - took like six months to arrive but I got it. I'm not particularly fond of the album but it felt like a very cool thing to have.

frogbs, Friday, 19 October 2018 13:48 (seven months ago) Permalink

On the other hand she feels like someone who could drop something insane and revolutionary at any time.

Yeah. I personally don't care much for video/3d art and would much prefer new audio material from her, but I can see why she'd want to venture into new terrain. And perhaps while her music is very much appreciated being a curator of music rather than composer - as you put eloquently - it's just not that satisfying to keep on doing? Idk.

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 19 October 2018 13:56 (seven months ago) Permalink

oh dear, here's a version of that interview that's more readable

https://www.wweek.com/music/2018/10/18/vaporwave-pioneer-vektroid-can-do-so-much-more-than-music/

i think it's good that she's taking a step back and developing in new directions, she's obviously very talented but it's easy to hit a dead end in that kind of creative work (i would say eno, for instance, who also characterizes himself as not a musician, has hit a creative dead end).

the show tomorrow sounds interesting but i probably am not going to go

dub pilates (rushomancy), Friday, 19 October 2018 14:04 (seven months ago) Permalink

im sure i ordered one of the floral shoppe records but have no idea if itll ever come haha

nxd, Friday, 19 October 2018 14:12 (seven months ago) Permalink

I would love to see her live, just for the vibes. But I doubt she’ll ever “tour”

calstars, Friday, 19 October 2018 16:56 (seven months ago) Permalink

one month passes...

from a FB post. looks like a lot of new stuff is coming...next year

4) Beyond all that,
I just wanted to give a huge thank you to everybody for being so patient while I bring all of those upcoming Vektroid projects up to the level of polish they deserve. That's ultimately the biggest reason you didn't see a new album from me in 2018, and I cannot express how excited I am about the state of this new material as we move into the new year. That means Midnight Run 2, No Earth, the 'Neo Cali sequel', four 'secret' albums, the EP followup to Seed & Synthetic Earth, and a few experimental projects as well. It'll most likely be Midnight Run 2 or the EP that arrives first. Either way, don't count me out too soon y'all. 🙃✌️

still weighing whether or not I wanna dump $40 on the vinyl copy of Shader. I feel like it's a really cool thing to own but that's a lot of money for a record album

frogbs, Monday, 10 December 2018 21:43 (six months ago) Permalink

Looking forward to it. Has anyone seen her twitch stream?

calstars, Monday, 10 December 2018 21:59 (six months ago) Permalink

I did check in once and she was playing this bizarre 3-D platformer where you were a chicken

frogbs, Monday, 10 December 2018 21:59 (six months ago) Permalink

haha good prep for untitled goose game!

and good news to that, ordered a copy of floral shoppe what must have been nearly a year ago and no sign of it haha

nxd, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 10:18 (six months ago) Permalink

someone actually tracked down a bunch of the Sleepline samples, wow

https://www.whosampled.com/album/New-Dreams-Ltd./Sleepline/

this album is such a cool trip. first time I heard it was on a long drive and I honestly thought it was only like 25 minutes (maybe confused it with Eden)...I remember checking and being like, "damn, I'm only on track 7?!?"

frogbs, Thursday, 13 December 2018 15:46 (six months ago) Permalink

My favorite V sample is probably the bridge to “Too Shy” by kajagoogoo, which became “Timecop” on Initiation Tape

calstars, Thursday, 13 December 2018 16:59 (six months ago) Permalink

I caught a bunch of her twitch stream last night. She was playing a bunch of semi obscure PS1 games. she doesn’t narrate, but she did occasionally pause the game to write in the chat to tell watchers who broached business (like “where’s my t shirt”) that the stream was not the place to discuss that stuff.

calstars, Sunday, 16 December 2018 13:54 (six months ago) Permalink

She has a very cool stream layout though. The centerpiece is this endlessly rotating translucent statue of David with a pig in place of a face.

calstars, Sunday, 16 December 2018 13:56 (six months ago) Permalink

four weeks pass...

Is this a new reissue? Might be wrong but seem to remember it was Calstars or Frogbs looking for an affordable vinyl version of Floral Shoppe?

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 15 January 2019 17:22 (five months ago) Permalink

Is this🕸 a new reissue? Might be wrong but seem to remember it was Calstars or Frogbs looking for an affordable vinyl version of Floral Shoppe?


Thanks, wasn’t me. Personally I would only trust her online shop as this looks like a potential copy. Or drop her a line on twtr and ask her.

Btw her twitch streams are really fun, I recommend them !

calstars, Tuesday, 15 January 2019 17:53 (five months ago) Permalink

Olde English Spelling Bee is legit

brimstead, Tuesday, 15 January 2019 19:39 (five months ago) Permalink

That's what I thought but they seem to have some serious issues. Otoh if Norman Records has it in stock, which I assume they do, it should be ok?

Uptown VONC (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 16 January 2019 12:29 (five months ago) Permalink

promising a vaporwave album but it never arriving is v appropriate

closed beta (NotEnough), Wednesday, 16 January 2019 13:41 (five months ago) Permalink

That's what I thought but they seem to have some serious issues🕸. Otoh if Norman Records has it in stock, which I assume they do, it should be ok?


Dang, had no idea. Ordered from them (OESN) years ago without incident

brimstead, Thursday, 17 January 2019 00:26 (five months ago) Permalink

sweet - cheers for this

nxd, Friday, 18 January 2019 10:42 (five months ago) Permalink

one month passes...

What are the chances that I’m rocking Pages on Spotify while I get a notification that Ramona is steaming on twitch?

calstars, Sunday, 17 March 2019 23:33 (three months ago) Permalink

f'in love "you need a hero", cheers my friend

brimstead, Sunday, 17 March 2019 23:37 (three months ago) Permalink

I like her music. I just found her Twitch thanks to you, calstars... and she's just playing a video game. Not even talking?

maffew12, Sunday, 17 March 2019 23:50 (three months ago) Permalink

Isn't that what twitch is?

brimstead, Sunday, 17 March 2019 23:59 (three months ago) Permalink

haha I'm not sure. Don't most streamers at least talk? Wondering the appeal here. That could be anybody.

maffew12, Monday, 18 March 2019 00:02 (three months ago) Permalink

Well half the appeal for me at least is the music selection , it’s like she djs random Midi sh1t wiith other choice cuts

calstars, Monday, 18 March 2019 00:26 (three months ago) Permalink

oh cool yeah there is music now. When I first checked, it was only game sound effects

maffew12, Monday, 18 March 2019 00:30 (three months ago) Permalink

"idgi, she's literally just playing a bunch of '80s yacht rock songs at half speed and calling it vaporwave" vs. "idgi, she's literally just playing a bunch of '90s PC games without any commentary and calling it a livestream"

lispectah deck (unregistered), Monday, 18 March 2019 00:42 (three months ago) Permalink

hahaha

maffew12, Monday, 18 March 2019 00:44 (three months ago) Permalink

... and now I've made an account to help her out with some Linux distro advice. calstars you really made my evening.

maffew12, Monday, 18 March 2019 00:47 (three months ago) Permalink

Beats watching Netflix for sure

calstars, Monday, 18 March 2019 00:54 (three months ago) Permalink

let's not go crazy

maffew12, Monday, 18 March 2019 00:58 (three months ago) Permalink

one month passes...

Floral Shoppe made PitchforK
https://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/macintosh-plus-floral-shoppe/

calstars, Tuesday, 23 April 2019 01:18 (one month ago) Permalink

“It’s your move” really is an amazing song, slowed down or not

brimstead, Tuesday, 23 April 2019 02:15 (one month ago) Permalink

one month passes...

She’s been talking and been on cam for the last week or so (getting comfortable is how I think she put it) , been going through the k-mart tapes and isolating the good bits

calstars, Tuesday, 4 June 2019 18:59 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Do you have a link to her twitch?

Uptown VONC (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 4 June 2019 19:04 (two weeks ago) Permalink

https://m.twitch.tv/waterfallvoyeur/videos

google

brimstead, Tuesday, 4 June 2019 20:00 (two weeks ago) Permalink

tried googling her name plus twitch, didn't take. thx.

Uptown VONC (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 4 June 2019 20:02 (two weeks ago) Permalink

no prob 👍

brimstead, Tuesday, 4 June 2019 20:03 (two weeks ago) Permalink

So this happened

im...cancelling netflix pic.twitter.com/PJmTXe03nK

— kitty (@kittaveli) June 4, 2019

calstars, Thursday, 6 June 2019 14:06 (one week ago) Permalink

omg

Uptown VONC (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 6 June 2019 14:32 (one week ago) Permalink


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