Neutral Milk Hotel: Classic or Dud?

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I think this is the biggest suprise on the ILM Top 100.. so now I want to know just who here is a NMH fan ( a category that I admittedly fall into )and why?

Mitch Lastnamewithheld, Thursday, 17 May 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Classic, both albums, for all the reason stated in the top100 thread.

Yes, they are an E6 band but don't subscribe to the 60s pop aesthic that most (but not all) of the other E6 bands do. Sonically and lyrically they are much more diverse.

Jeff, Thursday, 17 May 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I wonder if it has to do with an old josh blog post that said something to the effect of "If you don't like Neutral Milk Hotel, you can't be my friend (with the possible exception of Jeff Mangum stealing your girlfriend and writing a song about her)"

Mitch Lastnamewithheld, Thursday, 17 May 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I went well past my word count on this one in the 10-6 thread, but, yes, classic. I hope that with whatever Mangum does next, he doesn't end up stared down by his success and admiration and weighed down by expectation.

And I still think "Pinkerton" is a bigger shock, and Weezer just has a higher profile fan base.

scott p., Thursday, 17 May 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Classic, both albums, objectively for all the reasons listed in the top 100 (particularly Scot's, which were marvelously stated and thank you) and personally because even now I go through phases where I can't listen to anything else, no matter how hard I try, and some of their songs still make my heart move into my throat and give me butterflies in my stomach.

Oh and I want Josh to be my friend.

Jenny, Thursday, 17 May 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Sorry, I meant Scott, with two t's.

Jenny, Thursday, 17 May 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

The E6 scene is total shit, NMH are the only band I can tolerate. The first NMH album is a piece of crap, except for "Song Against Sex", which is one of the best songs anyone's ever done, ever, anyone. The second album is great, and may well be the 9th best piece of music ever, though I didn't vote for it. "Everything Is", the a-side to an early 7", is probably their second best song.

Why am I only posting about retarded music today?

Otis Wheeler, Thursday, 17 May 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

They are classic...I can't really describe why I like them, I just do, I find them more interesting and listenable than alot of bands are. They are good live as well. It doesn't matter if they release another album or not. As for them making the top 10...GOOD! Lists shouldn't be predictable!!!!

james e l, Thursday, 17 May 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

otis, don't make me follow that question to its logical conclusion.

fred solinger, Thursday, 17 May 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I didn't vote, but big classic from me. I haven't listened to them in a while, but during a certain period those two records were crucial for me. The voice & words are just so naked. Mangum's obsession with bodiliy fluids, etc. seems tied to some half-remembered collective memory. Like that "Two Headed Boy" song, that image of a tiny child with two heads floating in a jar of formaldahyde, tapping on the jar--it's primal and hits the same place as Lynch's Eraserhead, a dream space that's hard to articulate (which is why I'm not doing a good job of it!) Anyway, even if I can't explain it, I understand why it was voted so highly.

Mark, Friday, 18 May 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

The way you describe the lyrical content, Mark, you make NMH sound like the Tool for people afraid to rock out without apologizing for it. ;-)

Speaking of which, _Lateralus_ = wonderfulness.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 18 May 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I always described _Aeroplane_ to curious friends as "like listening to a history book." It's a trip I love to take.

Classic for the line "I'm tasting Naomi's perfume. It tastes like shit."

Keiko, Friday, 18 May 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

CLASSIC!!! CLASSIC!!! Their 2 albums are fantastic! In The Aeroplane Over The Sea is the best album ever for me! It captures images and feelings that I can't found elsewhere. Go listen to it you don't know what you're missing!

Luís Sousa, Friday, 18 May 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

in the aeroplane(to continue the general trend) is completely amazing and wonderful. it is the voice, the ache seems so real and the lyrics shy away from crap whiny sentiments like say bright eyes or (insert your favourite emo band here) and more towards bizarre imagery and non-specific oddity. they aren't the only good thing on e6, of montreal's kevin barnes is just as clever and the last of montreal record is fantastically off-kilter and charming and pop.

the new ladybug transistor record is beautiful, strange thing that all of their side projects are absolutely horrid but because gary olson is around on lt records they are great, but then he was a member of the mad scene and maybe some of hamish kilgour's genius rubbed off on him. how pleasing to see the clientele mention the chills as their favourite band, i imagine he was a big fan of the moles as well.

keith, Friday, 18 May 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I really, *really* begin to wonder if I'm hearing the same band here. I'm more or less with Otis on E6's general worthlessness, though the band I spare from the axe is Elf Power. First to die will be Robert Schneider and all of Olivia Tremor Control. After that I'll just hunt them one by one and leave their skulls out as a warning.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 18 May 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I've only heard On Avery Island once and In The Aeroplane... twice, so I've been staying away from this thread because I'm underinformed but....well....there's a *reason* I've heard them so little and it's not that I don't have copies. It's that I thought they - ITAOTS in particular - were ghastly rubbish - and not just in an oh, this isn't very interesting way, in a "fucking hell this is absolutely hateful" way. I'm now going to have to dig up my tape and play it again so I can work out why. Damn you, ILM.

Tom, Saturday, 19 May 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

utter utter classic. no question, noo question whatsoever. i can't understand the mentality of someone who wouldn't fall to their peasant knees and bow down in servitude towards the towering work of boundless romanticism and palpable pain of 'In The Aeroplane, Over The Sea'.

Haven't ever made it all the way through 'On Avery Island', but, yes, 'song about sex' is utter greatness. search the charred usk of napster for mangum's take of Spector's 'i love how you love me', too, or any NMH boots you can find. wonderful love band.

stevie, Saturday, 19 May 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

What a crappy band name.

Patrick, Saturday, 19 May 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Tom, In the Aeroplane... is about as intentionally hateful as a record gets. It's much more confrontational than any other E6 shit (confrontational is not the right word, what I mean is it's not so slight and ignorable). I'd concentrate on the pretty song (track 3) or the fast one (track 6) if I were you. It's a very happy album, to me.

Otis Wheeler, Saturday, 19 May 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Okay, I'm calling time -- 'boundless romanticism' of _In An Aeroplane_ my ass. So clearly we're listening to different records, and the question is, do I have the real album or do you? ;-)

Ultimately, Neutral Milk Hotel remind me of a Dukes of Stratosphear or _On the Sunday of Life_-era Porcupine Tree that makes a critical mistake -- it takes itself seriously.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 19 May 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Some people like them, some people don't. Oh well. I'm not sure I get why some people are so against them. But then if you've only heard the "in the aeroplane" once and really hated it, then it must be a very memorable record to inspire such strong emotion. Which therefore makes it a classic. One of those records you either love or hate, no middle ground.

james e l, Saturday, 19 May 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

i can't stand when people say 'one of those records you love or hate' makes a good album. maybe it's just an AWFUL ALBUM but some idiots like it for some ass- backwards reason like being so deprived that lame folky strumming and boring would-be 'shocking' lyrics actually make a good album, which in that case i advise you to seek out this great new artist named leonard cohen who does the same thing only is 'classic rock' and therefore not as cool as 'indie rock'. thanks!

p.s. : they're by far the worst band in elephant 6. much love.

ethan, Saturday, 19 May 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Hurrah! Ethan and I will join forces and destroy the world!

More to the point -- you've actually got it wrong, James, I didn't hate it with a deep and abiding passion, I more found it pointless. Consider: I *loathe* Rage Against the Machine and always will. Still, I understand why a lot of people really, *really* like them, even if I never will go down that primrose path. I find Neutral Milk Hotel a general nonstarter, vaguely pleasant at best but no more. Hearing them praised to the skies as some sort of revelation, that's what really suprises and riles me, because I just can't see or hear that at all. Substitute in the word "Weezer" for "Neutral Milk Hotel" and you've got two reactions covered.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 19 May 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Ah well, I was just trying not to sit on the fence for a change. Have a good day!

james e l, Sunday, 20 May 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

first time i played 'aeroplane' i thought it was just pleasant, but the more listens i gave it, the deeper i got sucked into the whole central lyrical conceit - that Mangum wrote the album as a love paean to Anne Frank, and as a poetic musing on her story. some of the lyricism on this record is, to m e, just absolutely stunning, so beautiful - cf Two Headed Boy part 2, 'holland, 1945', 'oh comely'. i'm pretty immune to most of the E6 stuff, but NMH come from a totally different angle. I can't think of a record that touches me as deeply as a lot of 'ITAOTS'.

stevie, Sunday, 20 May 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I’m not too sure that the entire album is a paean to Anne Frank, just the one song – "Holland, 1945" – and I’d guess that its more about Mangum’s experience reading The Diary of Anne Frank than anything else.

I also can’t see how the lyrics are hateful, and I don’t think they exist to shock; I think they’re unironic, honest, loving – to the point where that skewed sincerity could be off-putting (and is, obviously). It is a "love it or hate it" album – you connect with it or you don’t, and that, to me, is more time than not a positive. I can see why people would have a strong connection to this record (and many of the other high-ranking selections in the ILM 100 from the Holy Bible to 69LS to Man-Machine) regardless of whether I enjoy them or not.

If I may, about the lyrics: Mangum uses a number of words repeatedly, seemingly in a oblique way (among them: spine, mouth, sweet, cheek, sink, tongue, teeth, face, smile.) Lyrically, the album traces a personal history of pain, loss, and disappointment from an unhappy family life to attempts at comfort through sexual awakening, religious epiphany and a belief in the invincibility of youth to the experience of reading the Diary of Anne Frank and Mangum’s connection to her hope despite inevitable death to the plight of a "Two-Headed Boy" who longs for some sensual, human connection despite his being birthed to a life of almost inevitable loneliness. Throughout, these seemingly unrelated words above are peppered amidst alternating stream-of-consciousness lyrics and very lucid observations about the pain of both Mangum and his characters.

Then, at the end, the final song is about the suicide of a friend, and all of those words are used in context, it’s the moment where Mangum isn’t transferring that fresh pain to memories or moments of hurt that he has had the opportunity to reconcile. And when he pleads, "Push the pieces in place /Make your smile sweet to see /Don't you take this away / I'm still wanting my face on your cheek" it’s almost as if he is pushing all of those scattered lyrical pieces from the previous songs together, allowing himself the chance to grieve for what is causing his hurt, and then it’s too much and he retreats back into character and the album closes with him comforting the two-headed boy as he worries that he’ll never feel true human contact and love, warning him that when and if he does not to lament that it’s ultimately fleeting.

Again, apologies for the length of this.

scott p., Monday, 21 May 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Clarification re. "hateful" - meant that I hated it (as Ned testifies this is not a binary love/hate reaction). Haven't heard it enough to get any kind of lyrical content - voice/arrangements repelled me quite enough.

Tom, Monday, 21 May 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Tom: actually it was Otis' post that made me argue that the record isn't hateful. Disliking this, or any other record, I wouldn't argue with someone about in order to try to change opinion. Sorry to come across like that.

I've officially even bored myself on this topic.

scott p., Monday, 21 May 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

The debut is in my mind an utter piece of dung. But that's if you compare it to ITAOTS. I wouldn't call myself a fan of NMH. I would call myself obsessed with ITAOTS. One of the few records I cried when I first heard it. The only other music that did this is the song Thirteen by Big Star.

Stevie Nixed, Monday, 21 May 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Jeff Magnum: The Dylan of indie-pop? (Put another way: if say, Toploader, were writing the lyrics, would you still be listening? I am aware that this implies a complete disregard for the actual music behind Bob Dylan's songs - definitely a bad thing- but we all know that Dylan is synonymous primarily with lyrical content.)

Mitch Lastnamewithheld, Monday, 21 May 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Did they get their name from a random band name generator offa the internet?

, Monday, 21 May 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Wrongly synonymous.

Josh, Monday, 21 May 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Dylan is patchy, lyrically, even on the famous stuff. But this is a question for another thread I think....

Tom, Monday, 21 May 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Did they get their name from a random band name generator offa the internet?
No, they listened to the white album backwards while tripping on mushrooms. Oh no that was some other E.Sux band.

Stevie Nixed, Tuesday, 22 May 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

one month passes...
Well, I own and am listening to '...Aeroplane...' as I write this and...I honestly don't see (hear) it. With so so so very much praise heaped upon this album (in particular). Track two sounds like The Flaming Lips, circa 'Clouds Taste Metallic' (only not quite is effective). The rest of the album is in the singer-songwriter art-folk vein. The lead vocals, which are most commonly referred to as "passionate" by many, are rather annoying (to be sure - in that Oasis sort of open-mouthed/out-of-tune way). "Eccentric musical accompaniment" (?) I also often hear about this group and album. So what, I say. Have these people never heard Tom Waits (Island years) with the bowed saw (ooo ohhh ahhh), etc. Also, a track like "Two-Headed Boy" (which is a solid song, but) sounds like some Radiohead demo of some sort (back when they actually used guitars on their albums, remember those days). All of which is to say : while it's all solid enough and worth a listen (so on and so forth)...it's hardly (and I really do mean hardly) anything to blow ones mind over (so to speak) - which is how it seems many have done from reading such lavish praise about '...Aeroplane...' across the internet and in print, etc. I mean, come on...is the state of music in THAT poor a shape? Maybe so, but still. That's no reason to blow people out of proper proportion. I say, if someone is so very enamored by this stuff (along with The Olivia Tremor Control and The Ladybug Transistor, etc)...LORDY, I can't wait to hear/read their lavish praise when they finally hear (or re-listen or actually understand) such beginnings as Brian Wilson (circa 1965-71) or The Beatles or early Pink Floyd or The Zombies ('Odessey & Oracle') or Soft Machine (first three) or...the list goes on and on for the originals doing it better (if not much better) the first time around. And, quite honesty, after hearing such bands...I often have to chase them down with those just mentioned forefathers in order to get that "Classic Coke" taste back into my ears.

"Tenk You Veddy Much"

michael g. breece

michael g. breece, Sunday, 1 July 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I assure you it's quite possible to have heard these other things, liking some, not liking others ("understanding" though), while simultaneously thinking that NMH are good.

Josh, Sunday, 1 July 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

this is something to do with the music tapes, right?

gareth, Sunday, 1 July 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

anyone seen them live. amazing. jermey barnes is one of the most amazing drummers ever. need proof listen to a bablicnon album. and hearing jeff sing live is like having your head smashed into thousands of pieces while your body feels every fiber stand up on end. people saw jesus at his live shows. the first album is lyrically and musically similar to in the aeroplane a big difference is the subtraction of jeremy barnes as drummmer. he is awesome on in the aeroplane. still nothing compares to jeffs voice. not whiny just about 50 lungs is all. lyrically bizarre (track 10 on aeroplane is not like many other tracks on any album ive heard...and track 2 doesnt sound like clouds taste metallic lips...where the hell did that guy get that idea...what song???) matt

matt, Saturday, 7 July 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

seven months pass...
felt like reviving this for no reason. carry on.

Melissa W, Thursday, 7 February 2002 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

If I had to guess, Melissa, I'd say you don't like NMH. Am I right?

Mark, Thursday, 7 February 2002 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Not really fan, don't particularly like many of the songs (though there are a couple of nice ones) or the arrangements, don't especially subscribe to the notion that Jeff Mangum is a mad genius. And yet, there is something attractive about the music. I do like the way he sings (though it is often suspiciously close to Andy Partridge's yelp), but there's some other kind of phenomenon going on that I can't quite put my finger on.

dleone, Thursday, 7 February 2002 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Don't know them. Their stupid name turns me off so much that I'll probably never know them.

alex in mainhattan, Thursday, 7 February 2002 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Wrong. I like them. But I don't love them. There's something so simultaneously appealing and appalling about them that they mystify me.

Melissa W, Thursday, 7 February 2002 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Also, I think my intent with reviving this thread was to draw John Darnielle out and get his opinion.

Melissa W, Thursday, 7 February 2002 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

And you shall have it. Or not. Jeff & I became friends on one of the worst nights of my life in 1993 so I'm ill qualified to judge. That said, though:

1) I think Jeff's a tremendous performer & has a way with a certain kind of melody -- though I think he'd do well to explore some minor keys, occasional seventh-chords, etc

2) I think he's a talented lyricist with a real gift for the rhythms of words within a line

3) I think since he's chosen to make the sort of music that attracts not just fans but people who develop a real emotional attachment to & need for his stuff, he owes them more new material than he seems willing to deliver; I have strong feelings about this as I feel an artist's most important responsibility is to his listeners, and that if you can't write at least five songs a year of you-at-your-best, then you're not trying hard enough

4) "Two-Headed Boy" is a great great great indie rock song, just a great song period; I think if Jeff believed that discipline were a virtue, which he doesn't, he'd be routinely writing some of the great songs of the age

5) Jeff's a prince of a human being, and I don't believe in separating the artist from his output but rather that the one is a reflection of the other: therefore,

CLASSIC

John Darnielle, Thursday, 7 February 2002 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

I don't believe in separating the artist from his output but rather that the one is a reflection of the other

This probably should be another thread (I think it is already, actually!) -- I don't believe in this myself. Mr. M not being the subject under discussion here, I should note! I haven't ever met the man, so no point in my judging him on this point. But I've meet some friendly, fine folks who make music that Annoys and Outrages Me Deeply and I've encountered some standoffish idjits who Brought the Rock or whatever.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 7 February 2002 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

I think NMH is a very good to great band. Admittedly, this is based on a small output so far, and it could very well be that they'll never top "Aeroplane over the Sea". Certainly, most of the credit should go to Mangum, although I think Robert Schneider's contributions to the success of the album are also considerable. His production is almost telepathically well-suited to Mangum's material. When I think of Mangum's strengths as a performer/songwriter, the other figure I most often think of is none other than Bob Dylan. Both are rough-edged, unconventional, yet oddly compelling singers. Both tend to prefer song structures that (from a music theory perspective) are quite simple, perhaps even trite. Both are unusually gifted lyricists, with a keen ear for matching phrase to melody. The fact that this comparison holds up as well as it does is reason in itself to claim that Mangum is a noteworthy artist.

Nate-o, Thursday, 7 February 2002 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

nmh are still really, really bad.

ethan, Thursday, 7 February 2002 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

one year passes...
Hello! Let's argue about this band some more! I still love 'em. Aeroplane was my favorite record from like ninth grade through mid-twelfth. I still pull it out at least every month and listen to it.

Lately I've been listening to live stuff, the acoustic set from Aquarius, to be exact. Lots of good unreleased stuff--"My Dream Girl Don't Exist" ; "Oh, Sister" ; "Rubby Bulbs". The demos are decent as well; some more than others. The tape collage stuff is kind of blah, and the noisy jokey stuff ("Chocolate Coffin"?!?! wtf?!?!) is pretty bad. But then you get grebt unreleased tracks like "Circle of Friends," "Wishful Eyes" and "Wood Guitar."

Right now I'm looking for other live stuff (the show with "Ferris Wheel on Fire" ; is that the one from the Cat's Cradle?) and the "Invent Yrself A Shortcake" demo, which I had aeons ago but somehow lost. slsk doesn't work in my dorm, so I can't get things that way--alas.

Ian Johnson (orion), Sunday, 1 February 2004 21:15 (sixteen years ago) link

I bought ...Airplane... after many, many promptings and references to it by people and things I respect, and I was nonplussed in a major, major way. However, I dug it out the other day and put it on and enjoyed it immensely, so much so that I've stuck it on iTunes in anticipation of the iPod arriving. So soon maybe I'll form a proper opinion (assuming I give it time amongst the other 2,900 songs ready to go!)

Llahtuos Kcin (Nick Southall), Sunday, 1 February 2004 21:54 (sixteen years ago) link

i wonder if they'll be another album...

rock 'em sock 'em (Treeship), Monday, 29 April 2013 22:11 (seven years ago) link

picturing a sleazy executive from merge, chomping on a cigar and encouraging them to "go electric," saying it'd be "like sufjan."

rock 'em sock 'em (Treeship), Monday, 29 April 2013 22:14 (seven years ago) link

Tom Scharpling is already on the hook to direct that very video.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 29 April 2013 22:25 (seven years ago) link

Not much of a "tour." Too bad no Cali dates...

― schwantz, Monday, 29 April 2013 22:07 (Yesterday) Permalink

It's sort of blowing my mind that they're bothering to call this a tour, and that the headlines are going with it.

mox twelve, Tuesday, 30 April 2013 02:54 (seven years ago) link

It's sort of blowing my mind that you guys didn't notice the part that says

Only a handful have been announced so far, but apparently there is "more to come,"

bish don't kmt (some dude), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 03:03 (seven years ago) link

Yeah, my bad. Crossing my fingers...

schwantz, Tuesday, 30 April 2013 03:27 (seven years ago) link

are these tickets going to be really expensive?

rock 'em sock 'em (Treeship), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 03:36 (seven years ago) link

probably not if you buy them at face value. i think my mangum solos were 30 bucks apiece or so

'scuse me while i make the sky cum (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 03:45 (seven years ago) link

pretty stoked for this, was listening to the new a hawk and a hacksaw last week and thinking how unlikely it was i'd get to see that band lineup again, when barnes moved out of town that's when it started to be apparent that this 'break after a year of touring' might turn into something more. nmh plus elf power, 1998 all over again, gonna be fun to see mangum pop up to sing in 'the arrow flies close' again.

balls, Tuesday, 30 April 2013 03:46 (seven years ago) link

Enormous honking dud.

they all are afflicted with a sickness of existence (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 05:18 (seven years ago) link

If there's one thing I've learned from the oughts, it's that breaking up / losing your mind / retiring forever at some point is the best thing one can do for one's career.

Jimmywine Dyspeptic, Tuesday, 30 April 2013 07:48 (seven years ago) link

I saw the last ever NMH gig. There were maybe 50 people there. I imagine more people will want to see them this time round.

If you tolerate Bis, then Kenickie will be next (ithappens), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 09:50 (seven years ago) link

Was that the Camden Underground show? Where they improvised that song in tribute to the sun at the end? One of the best shows I've ever seen.

media conglomerates are pedaling the same product (stevie), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 10:15 (seven years ago) link

That was indeed the Underworld. Brilliant gig. I'd loved In the Aeroplane so much I was convinced everyone else in the world must feel the same, so I was genuinely shocked at how sparsely attended it was. I don't remember the improv, just being bowled over by the whole thing - so ramshackle yet hurtling forward without doubt.

If you tolerate Bis, then Kenickie will be next (ithappens), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 11:06 (seven years ago) link

The ramshackle thing was key - I remember the drummer would tumble into these epic drum rolls, and not be able to roll back into the songs, so he'd just stop playing, listen along for a couple of bars and then jump back in. And they were just so joyous, laughing, drunk, a wonderful mess. I couldn't get the Melody Maker to cover them back in the day, but The Times let me mention them in my roundup of the year, and I wrote something about how they played like a Salvation Army Band after their first taste of the demon booze.

media conglomerates are pedaling the same product (stevie), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 11:23 (seven years ago) link

The Maker rejected them because an office wag said they sounded like "the panpipe band off the Fast Show".

media conglomerates are pedaling the same product (stevie), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 11:25 (seven years ago) link

Got Mark B to write about them for me a couple of years ago. I always wanted to get Simon Schama to do something on them - did you know he's a fan?

If you tolerate Bis, then Kenickie will be next (ithappens), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 11:28 (seven years ago) link

Ha! Simon Schama?? Well, the album is steeped in history, I guess...

media conglomerates are pedaling the same product (stevie), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 11:32 (seven years ago) link

Get Bieber to write about them.

they all are afflicted with a sickness of existence (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 11:41 (seven years ago) link

my gf listens to 'aeroplane' at least once a week but wasn't too excited by the idea of seeing dude solo. we'd both go see the full band though.

ITAOTS was very ~important~ to me but at the ATP JM curated I was pretty cynical about seeing him play for a variety of reasons, and then when he actually played I was a blubbering hysterical wreck from the first note till the last. Dunno how he did it it was just a bloke with a guitar playing some songs I don't have particularly intense feelings for any more ffs.

the kind of man who best draws girls' eyeballs (Merdeyeux), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 11:51 (seven years ago) link

stalled out on missiontix tryna get a ticket rn...

i also enjoy in line skateing (spazzmatazz), Friday, 10 May 2013 16:05 (seven years ago) link

nvm no one i know got tickets

i also enjoy in line skateing (spazzmatazz), Friday, 10 May 2013 16:27 (seven years ago) link

lol

i also enjoy in line skateing (spazzmatazz), Friday, 10 May 2013 16:31 (seven years ago) link

there are still tickets in columbia mo. for now, at least.

mike a, Friday, 10 May 2013 17:18 (seven years ago) link

oops. sold out too. fortunately i got one.

mike a, Friday, 10 May 2013 17:21 (seven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exRvC0jYOzE

乒乓, Monday, 13 May 2013 12:00 (seven years ago) link

seems like it would be hard to play the ukulele wearing fur gloves. sometimes i feel like my fingers are already too big. kudos to that guy.

Treeship, Monday, 13 May 2013 12:06 (seven years ago) link

two months pass...

Tickets for the January 2014 D.C. show sold out too quick for me. I tried but couldn't get through. Stubhub already has some-- not sure I want to pay $80 a ticket

curmudgeon, Friday, 2 August 2013 14:40 (seven years ago) link

five months pass...

Just saw them in Jersey City. Thankful there was no gigantic singalong. Such an odd band to become so big.

kornrulez6969, Wednesday, 15 January 2014 05:04 (seven years ago) link

Hey, me too! I was behind the bar loading drinks for the bartenders. Got to watch the show in full afterwards too! Yeah the audience was not as sappy as I'd imagined they'd be.

Evan, Wednesday, 15 January 2014 05:16 (seven years ago) link

i remember a feeling of dread when i checked that indiepop list in the late 90s , that band was "happening" there. i bounced as they say.

Sébastien, Wednesday, 15 January 2014 05:19 (seven years ago) link

If there's one thing I've learned from the oughts, it's that breaking up / losing your mind / retiring forever at some point is the best thing one can do for one's career.

Don't forget dying, that's still a classic move

L'Haim, to life (St3ve Go1db3rg), Wednesday, 15 January 2014 15:18 (seven years ago) link

Friend tweeted from that show "Yes, everyone is old."

eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 15 January 2014 16:01 (seven years ago) link

three weeks pass...

saw them over the weekend and it was pretty magical. a surprising number of young kids there, who apparently waited out in the cold all day to get up front (which, it turned out, was totally unnecessary since all the olds were happy to hang out in the tiered seating). i was really impressed at how tight they were, the level of musicianship on that stage is super high. i'll bet they're a way better band than they were in the '90s.

JM was rocking a giant grey beard and kept his hat over his eyes the whole time but sounded spot-on.

festival culture (Jordan), Monday, 10 February 2014 17:20 (six years ago) link

"I was really impressed at how tight they were, the level of musicianship on that stage is super high."

Yes! Much more commanding and professional than I was expecting, and I've seen them all perform in other projects over the years.

Evan, Monday, 10 February 2014 17:28 (six years ago) link

the drummer and the multi-instrumentalist (jeremy & julian iirc) are particularly great.

festival culture (Jordan), Monday, 10 February 2014 17:30 (six years ago) link

Recent DC show sold out fast, but they're coming back to a big shed this summer.

curmudgeon, Monday, 10 February 2014 17:32 (six years ago) link

three months pass...

Saw them last night - echoing the comments above, couldn't believe how well they played. I was pretty dubious about seeing a band that I'd cared so much about in 2000, but it was still amazing.

toby, Thursday, 22 May 2014 09:46 (six years ago) link

Neutral Milk Hotel - In The Aeroplane Over The Sea
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AH3CRVVBL9o
I cried all day long after I saw this music video for the first time.
didn't care for any other songs on this album, haven't heard any of their others.

my playlists cataloging the best songs of each decade http://postmusicindustry.blogspot.com

TabForaCause.com, Thursday, 22 May 2014 10:13 (six years ago) link

we laughed, we cried, we spammed

ςὖτ ιτ Οὖτ (some dude), Thursday, 22 May 2014 10:23 (six years ago) link

five months pass...

i was really impressed at how tight they were

well, if you only write, like, 22 songs over the course of a quarter century, I assume you get those songs down pretty good at some point

Jimmywine Dyspeptic, Saturday, 25 October 2014 23:56 (six years ago) link

Who wouldn't get off on being revered like a Christ figure? Dude does not need to write another song in his life. ITAOTS is perfect and only gets better.

Pentenema Karten, Thursday, 30 October 2014 18:22 (six years ago) link

huh I could've sworn its stayed p much exactly the same since it was released

Οὖτις, Thursday, 30 October 2014 18:24 (six years ago) link

its so strange that he doesn't write songs anymore. I figured some new stuff would emerge after the tours he did, but he's still playing all old stuff isnt he?

prince moth mothy moth moth (cajunsunday), Thursday, 30 October 2014 18:30 (six years ago) link

that well is drty

Οὖτις, Thursday, 30 October 2014 18:40 (six years ago) link

also dry

Οὖτις, Thursday, 30 October 2014 18:40 (six years ago) link

I figured some new stuff would emerge after the tours he did

i could see that making it even harder to write new songs.

festival culture (Jordan), Thursday, 30 October 2014 18:49 (six years ago) link

six years pass...

For a Milk Hotel to be Neutral, at a time like this, is unconscionable

— David Spector (@spectordeforce) January 10, 2021

nickn, Monday, 11 January 2021 18:27 (two weeks ago) link

A funny tweet thread.

nickn, Monday, 11 January 2021 18:28 (two weeks ago) link


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