paramore - after laughter - recording and anticipation

we need a new thread for this.

https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13754096_10150726125349963_1477631795425101347_n.jpg?oh=25017e3bf8fd5cce52e76f065dc467ff&oe=582E5C1E

any dates for this?

it's expected to come out early next year

justin mendal-jonsen is producing again. zac farro on drums

❤️❤️❤️

meldal-johnsen* lol

:D

bummed about farro tbh, rubin on drums was so A++

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CsdhY8nWcAARfZc.jpg

https://www.instagram.com/p/BKZMPmqAQc1/

(done with recording in Nashville)

Hope those are the only instruments they used.

Hayley Williams on Vox and Electric Nipper

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Csfi2qiWYAAzgFV.jpg

Well, I can't identify every instrument in this pile, but at the very least those must have been some well-amplified congos.

those are all just big hat boxes imo

question for paramore expert: what i can expect of this album based purely off the hair colour

She was blonde for parts of the "Brand New Eyes" era, so..

https://twitter.com/yelyahwilliams/status/774056755370131457

hayley from ParamoreVerified account
‏@yelyahwilliams
@katieee03 this is just my "off time" hair lol... Keeping a blank slate for now!

Can't believe I actually went and looked into that tbh. I'm sure she'll come up with something interesting when it comes time to actually promote the album.

https://twitter.com/paramore/status/801463457451278336

Finished with the L.A. portions of the album?

https://twitter.com/yelyahwilliams/status/824692432604397569

@jeffgliponeo

are you guys 90% done with 5more? say something.

@yelyahwilliams

91%

http://i.imgur.com/wkzEVmA.jpg

Is this going to be insanely ott/ambitious

Coz they can't pull out of the trajectory now

zac farro officially back in the band

https://www.instagram.com/p/BQBYXlIjkKo/

that seems like a big deal

i guess ilan rubin might be a better drummer technically than farro but farro's work has a pretty specific personality that i missed on the s/t initially. his fills on "ignorance" are wild imo

also idk what happened but his playing generally leveled-up on brand new eyes in every way imo, all of those drum tracks are furious

Drumming on "ignorance" is insane good.

yeah, his drumming helps make that record, along with that big overblown production that for some reason I hated on every other '00s rock record except that one

They realized a two person band would look a little underwhelming on the cover.

lol

aren't they a couple though, that opens up absurdly cutesy/nauseating/lovely possibilities

?

The two dudes are so cute.

hayley is married to chad gilbert from new found glory. she dated josh farro back in the day and the breakup went horribly and that's what brand new eyes is about and it's why the farro brothers left the band

xpost

:/

I don't think they'd cover up the end of a romantic relationship by saying really mean things about how Hayley ran and controlled the band (and also how unchristian she was) so I doubt that's why they left the band.

I don't think they'd cover up the end of a romantic relationship by saying really mean things about how Hayley ran and controlled the band (and also how unchristian she was)

oh yeah i'm realllly abbreviating history there but idk i think a huge reason they left is that literally every lyric on brand new eyes is kinda like "fuck u josh"

also from what i remember about it at the time the farro bros "we're leaving the band" letter was super like... terrible bad faith shit

tbh maybe my idea of why they left was baseless speculation at the time and i've just carried that in my head for so long that i thought it was true so nm

I didn't follow the personal drama b/c I'm too old and indifferent but the fact they made their best album without those dudes has gotta burn a little. Paramore was good precisely because it was the kind of record they probably couldn't have made with two devout Warped Tour loyalists in the band

Reminds me--on a much, much larger scale--of what happened with Q and Not U back in the day. They were a good band, then they dumped their bassist and made a big show of how they'd dumped their bassist and it really seemed to energize them and open the door to all sorts of new possibilities. This was like that but on more of a Fleetwood Mac scale

xp I think the lyrics point to that intimate conflict and also more generally about the tension in the band, sometimes specifically so ("I can't believe we almost hung it up", and then some of them did, but the album pretends they can move on as long as the last jabs are hers (re 'fuck u josh' and maybe 'fuck you zac and, jeremy, and i'm not so great either (but taylor seems like he's always been the nice guy))

Echoing the love for Farro's BNE drums and hope there's some aggression on the new album to make use of them

xp I think the lyrics point to that intimate conflict and also more generally about the tension in the band, sometimes specifically so ("I can't believe we almost hung it up", and then some of them did, but the album pretends they can move on as long as the last jabs are hers (re 'fuck u josh' and maybe 'fuck you zac and, jeremy, and i'm not so great either (but taylor seems like he's always been the nice guy))

yeah this is a more accurate portrait of what's going on in that record

The way she prods at and questions her faith in the band and Faith in general on BNE in a really aggressive way, like some hurt T Rex, over these machine gun drums and pop punk emo makes it one of my favorite _pop_ albums in general, so full of drama.

Yeah it's funny how the ostensibly very positive lyrics on "Looking Up" - at least when appearing on the same album as "Ignorance" and "Playing God" and "Feeling Sorry" - can come off as really patronising and dismissive.

i don't think i realized before how indebted "turn it off" is to jimmy eat world's "work"

Music video shoot:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C7BklLwWcAACzaF.jpg:large

New half-hour Hayley Williams interview:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BzBkZHSDfj_ocW0yZjdsa0x6dTg/view

aaron weiss from mewithoutyou is on this record

xp: Just got done listening to that interview. No new album news in it.

otm

1) More emphasis back on the guitar, and 2) Zac should go as Animal as he wants with drum takes

sounds good to me

Yeah I love After Laughter but I'm ready for more Paramore ROCK.

please tell me this is when they make their Failure record

So, about half a year ago, Hayley mentioned in an interview

“We’ve thought about [the next Paramore album]. Taylor’s mentioned things like: ‘Oh, God – I miss guitars. We’ve found ourselves listening to a lot of older music that we grew up being inspired by. T and I liked stuff that was a bit more ratty sounding: The Rapture, Yeah Yeah Yeahs. All three of us loved Queens Of The Stone Age’s ‘Songs For The Deaf.’”

But yes, I hope for more Failure influence as well.

time has proven every song on the second half of after laughter the greatest song of all time

you don't have to tell me
if you ever think of me
i know you see me dancing wildly in the fog of your memory
you don't have to tell me
i can still believe

Um, what about the first half?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lvs2JJuZwJ0

just posting a dope underrated paramore jam

^

huge stage
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoNOexnZpyM

we’ve missed you. we’re playing When We Were Young Fest in Vegas on Oct 22nd.

register for pre-sale now at https://t.co/y4F18MAQsO

📸: @elkemusek pic.twitter.com/KHLR07Qq0k

— paramore (@paramore) January 18, 2022

I'm looking forward to the day we'll have to start a new thread.

I am NOT feeling that Taylor hair

that festival's lineup is fucking crazy, like someone cherry-picked the best years of warped tour

I'm sorry your man looks like a spaniel now, Alfred.

Warped Tour Nostalgia=Next Big Thing!

nice to see weird al's son getting out there and making a legacy of his own

*accordion lick*
*slide whistle*
WHOOOOOA i never meant to brag
but i got him where i want him now *HONK*

hayley in orange, let's gooo

xp lol

1) More emphasis back on the guitar

Any word yet on who will be producing? I think the Justin Meldal-Johnsen partnership has been super beneficial and I'd hate for them to go back in the direction of the Rob Cavallo's of the world.

no confirmation, i bet it's jmj tho

there are many studios and producers in california but i assume he's who they'd travel there for

Good good. I'm all for more guitars in line with the s/t.

I went back to their "You Ain't Woman Enough" cover recently, which is a fun Hayley karaoke belter. Have they done any other covers?

The last two Paramore albums and the solo Williams joint are among my favorite produced albums of all time. They sound *great*, super cool.

Have they done any other covers?

― Indexed, Wednesday, January 19, 2022 7:51 AM (thirty-four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

yes! i'm a big fan of their failure cover

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDqVVH5Ppyo

The covered Passionfruit by Drake and Everywhere by Fleetwood Mac a lot live during the After Laughter tours

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqoj_3r9oqg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3HsSjS6n-k

I'm not going to that whole festival, but a double-headline Paramore/MCR tour would be pretty much the highlight of any year for me.

Love that "Everywhere" cover -- a perfect fit with the After Laughter vibe.

The last two Paramore albums and the solo Williams joint are among my favorite produced albums of all time. They sound *great*, super cool.

― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, January 19, 2022 8:57 AM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

Agreed. Jon Caramanica once called the s/t "a mess", and I was personally offended.

pretty sure they would play "everywhere" right after "forgiveness" which is indeed perfect

https://i.redd.it/99o38wd53cr81.jpg

New pic of Hayley and Taylor hanging out with the Linda Lindas (half of the band's dad is Carlos de la Garza, who has done mixing/engineering on all the recent Paramore/Williams projects).

Hayley dueted on an acoustic Misery Business with Billie Eilish at Coachella

hayley williams wore toxicity & KO in her hair at coachella with billie eilish so I wore toxicity & KO in my hair at coachella pic.twitter.com/INmn4ZnMBv

— Good Dye Young 🌈 (@gooddyeyoung) April 24, 2022

and Billie's Happily Ever After

Hayley also came back to sing ‘Happier than Ever’ with @billieeilish, last song of the setlist. pic.twitter.com/AcPby2S6Nk

— PARAMORE ITALIA (@italiaparamore) April 24, 2022

Thought the "Misery Business" performance was cool til I watched the "Happier Than Ever" vid

hayley williams singing happier than ever with billie elish at #Coachella pic.twitter.com/0aMabFq6P9

— ★ yelyah content ★ (@YELYAHCONTENT) April 24, 2022

i thought she wasn't doing "Misery Business" anymore but i guess she'll dust it off for the right person? (not judging her for this)

Yeah, it's interesting because they officially retired it in 2018, haven't done anything as a band since then, and Hayley made a point about it in 2020 when Spotify included MizBiz on some women in rock playlist. So it must be a case of the right person asking her. And they did sound fucking good together!

There's also ALL. THE. ATTENTION. the song has received in the past few years, with Willow Smith, Olivia Rodrigo, and Machine Gun Kelly all giving nods to Old Paramore.

I think I will save my disappointment for if Paramore The Band plays it live again.

is there a second Weird Al biopic Taylor is gunning for?

https://i.redd.it/4wia1iitjrv81.jpg

I'm thinking Marty Friedman.

(if he grows it long enough)

They didn't officially retire it. She said they won't play it for a while. That they needed a break from it. So in fact they suggested it will be played again. And it probably should. Yeah it's mean in a not very modern way but it's also written by a teenager and true to that perspective. A song that good won't stay down.

Wouldn't be the worst thing in the world if they re-wrote the lyrics. During the Eilish performance and the After Laughter tours, Hayley would change it up by just covering her mouth for the word "whore", but left the rest of the lyrics intact. I think there's room for interpretations of a "misery business" that could be interesting, where they could hang different ideas on the basic framework.

They could change it to "bore", or "chore"... alotta options.

In other news, despite it's modest chart performance, "Hard Times" has become quite the CVS Jam.

hayley's got a radio show called "everything is emo," first episode here: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p0c3hp39

great set

Hard times.

touring this fall, registered for the “verified fan presale” lfggggg

this means a new album, right

seriously tho can anyone explain to me how this Ticketmaster Verified Fan bs keeps tickets from scalpers, do they think scalpers don’t know how to fill out a form or

Really digging their new profile banner, although I can't tell what the hell it's supposed to be. Definitely signals a break from the neon times of After Laughter.

xpost I think it helps prevent bots from just gobbling up as much as possible. It's a bit like 2-step verification.

So, about half a year ago, Hayley mentioned in an interview

“We’ve thought about [the next Paramore album]. Taylor’s mentioned things like: ‘Oh, God – I miss guitars. We’ve found ourselves listening to a lot of older music that we grew up being inspired by. T and I liked stuff that was a bit more ratty sounding: The Rapture, Yeah Yeah Yeahs. All three of us loved Queens Of The Stone Age’s ‘Songs For The Deaf.’”
But yes, I hope for more Failure influence as well.

― peace, man, Wednesday, January 12, 2022 6:35 AM (six months ago) bookmarkflaglink

In her podcast today, Hayley mentioned that Bloc Party was in the mix of influences as well. I know Bloc Party at all, and I didn't pay enough attention to the songs of theirs that she played, so guess I'll have to go back and dig into that.

We started working on new material as a band over the last year and a half - you know, the three of us, Zac, Taylor and I - and I just want to say it, I don't even feel like it gives away very much...Bloc Party, from day one, was the number one reference because, it was like, there was such an urgency to their sound that was different from the fast punk or the pop punk or the loud wall-of-sound emo bands that were happening in the early 2000s.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p0cp486b

wow wtf the paramore version of silent alarm would detonate my brain

!!!

!!!

― ufo, Friday, July 29, 2022

^^^ would pay to hear Paramore cover them too.

the stated influences make me think the album's going to sound like "fast in my car"