big thief: masterpiece

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Yeah the album is the perfect middle ground between Land of Talk and Marissa Nadler. There was no way I wasn't going to love it

― Evan R, Wednesday, June 1, 2016 1:42 PM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

great debut album, a sort of gorgeous and dynamic hybrid of indie rock/folk/alt-country, genuinely heavier than it seems. i for some reason associate it with the hop along record from last year (which was also saddle creek)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTlM_a8swSw

https://bigthief.bandcamp.com/

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Wednesday, 1 June 2016 20:59 (two years ago) Permalink

Couple of my early favs:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTlM_a8swSw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hz3ly6nH3Ms

The record is an interesting corollary to that Pinegrove record, too

Evan R, Wednesday, 1 June 2016 21:18 (two years ago) Permalink

Oops, I doubled up on "Real Love." Meant to post "Interstate," because it's got that Wowee Zowee, meandering, fucked-up pop thing going for it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Xn01XzRleY

Evan R, Wednesday, 1 June 2016 21:22 (two years ago) Permalink

four weeks pass...

The melodic bit at the beginning of "Interstate" reminds me of The Amps' "I Am Decided" (this is good).

The love here compelled me to download my promo copy for a recent cross country bus trip, was glad I did.

geoffreyess, Thursday, 30 June 2016 15:00 (two years ago) Permalink

four months pass...

aoty

flopson, Tuesday, 15 November 2016 05:01 (one year ago) Permalink

'Paul' is my jam on this. and the title track.

I find this, from the p4k review, so true: "the songs sound cherry-picked over a lifetime of writing" ...it's hard to believe some young people just whipped up this collection of songs in a few months

flopson, Tuesday, 15 November 2016 05:11 (one year ago) Permalink

two months pass...

i asked my friend who is part of this scene (played bass for Cardinal on tour) for some riyl big thief when i was in withdrawal after listening to this album too much, and he told me to check out ratboys. been listening to this album A O I D from 2015, it's very good and they have a new one coming out this year

https://ratboys.bandcamp.com/track/tixis

flopson, Thursday, 2 February 2017 18:23 (one year ago) Permalink

oooh

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Thursday, 2 February 2017 18:28 (one year ago) Permalink

:)

these are all the bands he told me to check out, i've only gotten around to Land of Talk and ratboys so far

ratboys
lake
happy you
fraternal twin
land of talk
long beard
fog lake
alex g
florist
told slant

flopson, Thursday, 2 February 2017 18:32 (one year ago) Permalink

i know a lot of ppl who love told slant but the singing is intolerable to me

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Thursday, 2 February 2017 18:33 (one year ago) Permalink

ratboys are fucking great though, thank u

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Thursday, 2 February 2017 18:33 (one year ago) Permalink

Major Giant Drag vibes from Ratboy

Land of Talk is all time for me. Some Are Lakes is a classic begging for rediscovery. They were supposed to be working on a new album but it seems like they went silent again. Hopefully it won't be another four years until they release something.

Evan R, Thursday, 2 February 2017 21:04 (one year ago) Permalink

cloak and cipher was the one that hooked me, but yeah they are So Amazing

flopson, Thursday, 2 February 2017 21:20 (one year ago) Permalink

lizzie from land of talk is definitely getting a new LP ready

sean gramophone, Thursday, 2 February 2017 21:47 (one year ago) Permalink

i didn't know there was a thread for this! great record, feels like it could have been made anytime in the past 25 years (in a good way).

call all destroyer, Friday, 3 February 2017 02:02 (one year ago) Permalink

two months pass...

new album june 9

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejzzO51e4xI

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Wednesday, 5 April 2017 15:35 (one year ago) Permalink

very nice

flopson, Wednesday, 5 April 2017 15:57 (one year ago) Permalink

Saw them in January and they played mostly new stuff, all sounded great. Favorite song from the show, though, and quickly becoming one of my favorite Big Thief songs, seems to be an older one that they might not get around to recording, called "Shoulders." This 2015 video is pretty good quality: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pb_LZFim9ks

Handsome Bookor, Wednesday, 5 April 2017 22:46 (one year ago) Permalink

Also that new song has really grown on me since yesterday. Been on repeat all day.

Handsome Bookor, Thursday, 6 April 2017 17:33 (one year ago) Permalink

two months pass...

less accessible and generally quieter than masterpiece, may prove to be a richer record over time, "mary" is fucking incredible

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Tuesday, 6 June 2017 21:43 (one year ago) Permalink

listened the other day not paying 100% attention and it seemed not as good as masterpiece so i got scared and turned it off

flopson, Tuesday, 6 June 2017 21:45 (one year ago) Permalink

well it really opens up in its second half

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Tuesday, 6 June 2017 21:48 (one year ago) Permalink

after Masterpiece I trust this one to reward whatever time investment it requires

Evan R, Tuesday, 6 June 2017 22:07 (one year ago) Permalink

"haley" is sooooooooooooooooo good

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Wednesday, 7 June 2017 16:46 (one year ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...

i might have to dedicate a thread to it but the ratboys record is amazing http://www.ratboysband.com/

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Wednesday, 28 June 2017 21:23 (one year ago) Permalink

do it! make the ratboys thread! :)

as it happens i saw Big Thief live last night. at one of my least favourite venues and it was quite crowded so i was all the way at the back by the bar and couldn't see much. but it sounded lovely, her voice was just as good as on record. and she made a nice speech about gratefulness and fame and staying grounded at the end that was very sweet and honest. i still maintain songs on the new album just don't have the Hooks that made Masterpiece and you could tell the crowd would go while whenever they played one of the hits (Paul, Real Love, Masterpiece). Mythological creatures sounded amazing though

flopson, Wednesday, 28 June 2017 21:33 (one year ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

So it turns out this band is incredible.

Treeship, Monday, 17 July 2017 12:47 (one year ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...

spent ~5 hours of a 7 hour flight listening to capacity on repeat in a sleep deprived fugue, during which time it moved from previous rating of 'good' to current rating of 'my favourite album'

Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 8 August 2017 18:07 (one year ago) Permalink

one month passes...

ya so turns out this album is an immense grower

flopson, Saturday, 30 September 2017 09:50 (one year ago) Permalink

when she sings 'iris of the bo-oo-ody' on Coma >>>>>

flopson, Thursday, 5 October 2017 18:47 (one year ago) Permalink

agreed

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Thursday, 5 October 2017 19:05 (one year ago) Permalink

I keep randomly hearing this band and thinking they are good, so this is a good reminder to maybe listen to one of the records on the way home -- which should i start with?

IF (Terrorist) Yes, Explain (man alive), Thursday, 5 October 2017 19:08 (one year ago) Permalink

either one imo. masterpiece may be more immediate

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Thursday, 5 October 2017 19:14 (one year ago) Permalink

i would recommend starting with masterpiece. agree it is more immediate and i don't think i would necessarily recommend starting with capacity and going backwards, if i thought someone might get to both. there is a significant progression between them.

Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 5 October 2017 19:31 (one year ago) Permalink

thirded

flopson, Thursday, 5 October 2017 21:15 (one year ago) Permalink

i 180'd on capacity (from 'eh guess big thief just had one great album in them' to 'this album is sustaining my life') so hard that i'm now paranoid that there are dozens of other classic albums out there i should've given another chance

flopson, Thursday, 5 October 2017 23:26 (one year ago) Permalink

This is what I've been telling you about chief Keef's mixtape catalog

Anyway would I like these band

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Friday, 6 October 2017 00:06 (one year ago) Permalink

i don't know of anything you like that is remotely like this tbh

flopson, Friday, 6 October 2017 00:14 (one year ago) Permalink

'paul' or the title track off the first album is prob the best litmus test

flopson, Friday, 6 October 2017 00:18 (one year ago) Permalink

I already love this band now

IF (Terrorist) Yes, Explain (man alive), Friday, 6 October 2017 04:10 (one year ago) Permalink

:)

flopson, Friday, 6 October 2017 04:48 (one year ago) Permalink

I listened to the first album and was like "this is def not for me" and then listened to the second one & came away really impressed! I think it depends on if you're coming at it from an angle within or without the indie pop genre, I'm a much bigger fan of how they stretch out creatively on the new one than the more trad sounding compositions of the first

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Friday, 6 October 2017 05:20 (one year ago) Permalink

Sort of like how basic rap fans think finally rich is Keef's best album when back from the dead 2 is >>>>

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Friday, 6 October 2017 05:21 (one year ago) Permalink

lol

flopson, Friday, 6 October 2017 06:07 (one year ago) Permalink

yeah I can't say I find the second one any harder to get into than the first one, both work really well for me. I'm also coming at this as not generally a fan of indie pop or straightforward rock.

IF (Terrorist) Yes, Explain (man alive), Friday, 6 October 2017 14:54 (one year ago) Permalink

Pretty Things is an amazing song, approaching that Joni Mitchell thing of being so confessional and tender and raw that it almost hurts to listen.

IF (Terrorist) Yes, Explain (man alive), Friday, 6 October 2017 14:55 (one year ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJzOylaAfJw

saw them live recently and she started with a couple new songs solo acoustic and the encore was also solo acoustic, including pretty things. she's just insanely talented.

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 6 October 2017 15:42 (one year ago) Permalink

the flow between songs on the second record is better imo. masterpiece kinda feels like a collection of discrete songs whereas the songs on capacity talk to each other more

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Friday, 6 October 2017 15:43 (one year ago) Permalink

This version of masterpiece is better than the record imo:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0E5vMkDfOI

IF (Terrorist) Yes, Explain (man alive), Sunday, 8 October 2017 03:12 (one year ago) Permalink

i love that performance

flopson, Sunday, 8 October 2017 03:49 (one year ago) Permalink

we were just two moonshiners on the cusp of a breath

flopson, Sunday, 8 October 2017 03:53 (one year ago) Permalink

"There's only so much letting go you can ask someone to do"

IF (Terrorist) Yes, Explain (man alive), Sunday, 8 October 2017 04:49 (one year ago) Permalink

"haley" is sooooooooooooooooo good

― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Wednesday, June 7, 2017 11:46 AM (four months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this is my fav other than Pretty Things

IF (Terrorist) Yes, Explain (man alive), Tuesday, 10 October 2017 17:32 (one year ago) Permalink

FWIW Spotify has a few pre-Big Thief EPs of her and Buck Meek, they're just under her name, and believe it or not, they are also really good.

IF (Terrorist) Yes, Explain (man alive), Tuesday, 10 October 2017 17:33 (one year ago) Permalink

Just gave the new one a once through listen thanks to man alive's recommendation on the masculinity thread. This is pretty much exactly what I need right now. Will be spending some time in this record, I can tell.

how's life, Friday, 13 October 2017 11:52 (one year ago) Permalink

Nice! It has a lot to explore imo, I keep shifting which song I'm into, now it's Black Diamonds.

IF (Terrorist) Yes, Explain (man alive), Friday, 13 October 2017 13:03 (one year ago) Permalink

"Mythological Beauty" being set in Nisswa, MN def packs a punch to me, there's a certain beauty and squalor that's unique to Northern MN

Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 13 October 2017 15:04 (one year ago) Permalink

Haley is a gorgeous song!

Does it sound like the opening from Minnie Ripperton’s Les Fleurs to anyone else? I’m not technical, can anyone who actually identify notes confirm it’s the same chords?

✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 17 October 2017 22:06 (one year ago) Permalink

not the same chords but I definitely see the sonic resemblence

IF (Terrorist) Yes, Explain (man alive), Tuesday, 17 October 2017 22:07 (one year ago) Permalink

Yes again I’m not a musician so not very technical. Haley sounds to me like it starts in G and Les Fleurs in E? They do have the same sort of feel.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 17 October 2017 22:14 (one year ago) Permalink

It's not just the key difference, Haley starts with an ascending pattern and Le Fleurs starts with a descending pattern.

IF (Terrorist) Yes, Explain (man alive), Tuesday, 17 October 2017 22:15 (one year ago) Permalink

Haley also reminds me a lot of Jim O'Rourke's melodic stuff, can't put my finger on what in particular.

IF (Terrorist) Yes, Explain (man alive), Tuesday, 17 October 2017 22:18 (one year ago) Permalink

Oh I see! I can hear it now that you mention it!

Then if they’re different chords in a different order... Can you explain better than me why am I hearing the same sort of vibe in these two? Is it the drums? The production?

✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 17 October 2017 22:19 (one year ago) Permalink

Maybe Life Goes Off? xp

IF (Terrorist) Yes, Explain (man alive), Tuesday, 17 October 2017 22:20 (one year ago) Permalink

Then if they’re different chords in a different order... Can you explain better than me why am I hearing the same sort of vibe in these two? Is it the drums? The production?

― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, October 17, 2017 5:19 PM (five seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I don't know if I can explain it well, but I think the drum groove is definitely noticeably similar except much faster on Haley, and there's a fingerpicked acoustic guitar arpeggiating chords on both, and the ascending base note over the g chord on Haley probably feels similar to the descending bass note over the E chord on Les Fleurs.

IF (Terrorist) Yes, Explain (man alive), Tuesday, 17 October 2017 22:21 (one year ago) Permalink

Yes I think that’s it. Lovely song either way!

✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 18 October 2017 00:57 (one year ago) Permalink

I keep thinking that it's Adrianne in the new iPhone 8+ commercial--it can't be her, right?

bodak horseman (voodoo chili), Friday, 20 October 2017 01:34 (eleven months ago) Permalink

definitely not

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 20 October 2017 01:57 (eleven months ago) Permalink

haley is the best song i've heard all year and maybe my whole life

Flogging Mommy (diamonddave85), Friday, 20 October 2017 02:05 (eleven months ago) Permalink

This is my favorite song so far from the pre-Big Thief EPs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5HI9O4TBL8

IF (Terrorist) Yes, Explain (man alive), Friday, 20 October 2017 18:44 (eleven months ago) Permalink

(a live performance of it I mean)

IF (Terrorist) Yes, Explain (man alive), Friday, 20 October 2017 18:45 (eleven months ago) Permalink

First song in this set, :O

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QckxTQQ9XBo

IF (Terrorist) Yes, Explain (man alive), Thursday, 2 November 2017 02:15 (eleven months ago) Permalink

A lot of material I don't recognize, new album in the works already?

IF (Terrorist) Yes, Explain (man alive), Thursday, 2 November 2017 02:26 (eleven months ago) Permalink

Folks on this thread will appreciate this article: https://www.npr.org/2017/11/09/560267308/the-lore-of-big-thief

Also plz don't miss Adrianne's 2014 solo record: https://adriannelenker.bandcamp.com/. "Gone" is my go-to but the whole thing is fantastic.

cowtownboo, Saturday, 11 November 2017 07:30 (eleven months ago) Permalink

The solo record and the two with Buck Meek are all really nice.

That article is really nice too, although I'm constantly disappointed by the lack of basic musical knowledge of "music writers" who write stuff like this:

On songs like "Black Diamonds," the closing track off Capacity, Krivchenia's drums are breathing things, and he plays more to specific notes and chords than to a constant beat.

Like, that's not true at all, he plays a very steady beat. It's called accents and fills.

IF (Terrorist) Yes, Explain (man alive), Sunday, 12 November 2017 15:26 (eleven months ago) Permalink

I mean I know what the writer is sort of trying to get at, the way the drums follow the guitar and vocals at certain moments, but it's a really inaccurate description.

IF (Terrorist) Yes, Explain (man alive), Sunday, 12 November 2017 15:27 (eleven months ago) Permalink

three months pass...

Saw her tonight in brooklyn. Almost all new songs. Amazing. Really excited for the solo record.

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Wednesday, 7 March 2018 05:08 (seven months ago) Permalink

im jealous

NBA YoungBoy named Rocky Raccoon (m bison), Wednesday, 7 March 2018 05:13 (seven months ago) Permalink

I’m reaching a stage in my life where I only want to hear new songs in a concert, or at least songs I haven’t played heavily. When she did Paul and everyone went “WOO!” it kind of took me out of it.

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Wednesday, 7 March 2018 13:45 (seven months ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

I'm assuming these are from her teenage "my dad was trying to make me into a rockstar" days

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Friday, 23 March 2018 16:59 (six months ago) Permalink

intro looks promising https://vimeo.com/2512754

niels, Saturday, 24 March 2018 07:42 (six months ago) Permalink

Lol wow

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Saturday, 24 March 2018 15:58 (six months ago) Permalink

one month passes...

https://m.youtube.com/watchv=VZvYnXP5Y2s

Stream of a limited edition cassette they're selling at shows

just sayin, Tuesday, 1 May 2018 20:25 (five months ago) Permalink

one month passes...

i don't think i even realized last year how special capacity is

flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 00:19 (three months ago) Permalink

Lenker solo is my most anticipated record right now.

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 01:08 (three months ago) Permalink

the recent Joe Meek record is really nice

Simon H., Tuesday, 19 June 2018 01:12 (three months ago) Permalink

capacity truly is special, 'haley' is one of the best songs of the decade

paul mccartney & whinge (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 19 June 2018 02:46 (three months ago) Permalink

*Buck Meek, I should say, lol

Simon H., Tuesday, 19 June 2018 17:27 (three months ago) Permalink

one month passes...

i am so into this new song they played at pitchfork: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YhTyNnr42A

diamonddave85​​ (diamonddave85), Sunday, 22 July 2018 21:13 (two months ago) Permalink

Any rumors about when the solo record might drop?

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Monday, 23 July 2018 00:46 (two months ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0J_3pFuF29Q

october 5

princess of hell (BradNelson), Tuesday, 7 August 2018 15:32 (two months ago) Permalink

one month passes...

Like but don’t love the two new tracks. Looking forward to the record as I loved a lot of the new stuff I heard live.

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Monday, 17 September 2018 01:49 (one month ago) Permalink

My main feeling on them so far is that they did a little too much with the production. Seeing her live was so revelatory, and it kind of made me yearn for an album of just her and a guitar and a lot of space. But also the songs I like the best that I think are supposed to be on the new record haven't been released yet.

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Tuesday, 18 September 2018 21:22 (one month ago) Permalink

i like their production a lot. haven't heard the new stuff though

Scritti Vanilli - The Word Girl You Know It's True (dog latin), Wednesday, 19 September 2018 08:53 (four weeks ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...

Adrianne Lenker (Big Thief) -- abysskiss

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Saturday, 13 October 2018 14:12 (five days ago) Permalink

annoys me when all of an artist’s work merged into the thread for a single album

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Saturday, 13 October 2018 14:13 (five days ago) Permalink


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