Autechre: Elseq

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Go nuts:

Elseq 1
1. feed1 (11:37)
2. c16 deep tread (12:31)
3. 13×0 step (8:57)
4. pendulu hv moda (12:15)
5. curvcaten

Elseq 2
1. elyc6 0nset 27:09
2. chimer 1-5-1 5:03
3. c7b2 (13.22)

Elseq 3
1. eastre (22:15)
2. TBM2 (6:44)
3. mesh cinereaL (24:28)

Elseq 4
1. acdwn2 (11:52)
2. foldfree casual (9:49)
3. latentcall (14:31)
4. artov chain (4:04)
5. 7th slip (6:36)

Elseq 5
1. pendulu casual (9:01)
2. spTh (8:21)
3. spaces how V (9:57)
4. freulaeux (11:06)
5. oneum (11:01)

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 19 May 2016 16:59 (three years ago) link

LAME ENCODED

scott seward, Thursday, 19 May 2016 17:12 (three years ago) link

20 minutes into elyc6 0nset: that familiar "I'm not sure I'm enjoying this - but am I supposed to?" feeling during a first autechre listen :-/

StanM, Thursday, 19 May 2016 17:14 (three years ago) link

each track has separate art as well - all black circles and square patterns

StanM, Thursday, 19 May 2016 17:22 (three years ago) link

https://autechre.bleepstores.com/

koogs, Thursday, 19 May 2016 17:28 (three years ago) link

= Ned's "Go nuts" link up there, yes

StanM, Thursday, 19 May 2016 17:29 (three years ago) link

(very dark blue, not underlined, just looked like text...)

koogs, Thursday, 19 May 2016 17:35 (three years ago) link

eastre is like a totally different thing alltogether after the first hour and a half

StanM, Thursday, 19 May 2016 17:49 (three years ago) link

http://exclaim.ca/music/article/autechre_announce_five-disc_elseq_lp

Double CD and four LP ? 4+ hours?

StanM, Thursday, 19 May 2016 17:59 (three years ago) link

will it have been confirmed if this is amazing or not

And the cry rang out all o'er the town / Good Heavens! Tay is down (imago), Thursday, 19 May 2016 18:04 (three years ago) link

This is a fake release, I can't find the 12 in this.

Jenny Ondioleeene (Leee), Thursday, 19 May 2016 18:08 (three years ago) link

idk and wouldnt presume to decide yet but from interviews it seems that they work mostly independently and probably each track is heavily the work of one or the other; the first few tracks seem quite heterogeneous xp

c16 deep tread is tiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.

afriendlypioneer, Thursday, 19 May 2016 18:11 (three years ago) link

will it ever have been revealed which of lennon and mccartney wrote each song

And the cry rang out all o'er the town / Good Heavens! Tay is down (imago), Thursday, 19 May 2016 18:14 (three years ago) link

fold? latent? are they referencing their earlier work?

StanM, Thursday, 19 May 2016 18:18 (three years ago) link

they are more canny than to say.....to extend the analogy, they might all be written by george harrison, the fictional songwriter credited when they didn't want to parse authorship xp

we must be grateful for sound alone

And the cry rang out all o'er the town / Good Heavens! Tay is down (imago), Thursday, 19 May 2016 18:24 (three years ago) link

probably some connection between this release and the 'death' of george harrison at the end of last year

This site suggests a physical release is on the cards:

http://exclaim.ca/music/article/autechre_announce_five-disc_elseq_lp

Although how this would be reconfigured to fit on 2CDs / 4LPs is anyone's guess ... Quaristice style edits? Analord style 'best-of'?

Steve Reich In The Afternoon (Against The 80s), Thursday, 19 May 2016 18:28 (three years ago) link

The site might just be wrong, of course ...

Steve Reich In The Afternoon (Against The 80s), Thursday, 19 May 2016 18:29 (three years ago) link

while my freulaeux gently c7b2

And the cry rang out all o'er the town / Good Heavens! Tay is down (imago), Thursday, 19 May 2016 18:29 (three years ago) link

elyc6 0nset is going to be 27 minutes and 9 seconds of XD for you
reminds of francois bayle

Running times of the five volumes:

52:19
45:34
53:27
46:52
49:26

That's 247:38 total. You need a minimum of four CDs to hold that.

Don Van Gorp, midwest regional VP, marketing (誤訳侮辱), Thursday, 19 May 2016 18:56 (three years ago) link

xpost yeah maybe. sort of 'Grande Polyphonie' era Bayle hiding under the beats during the first half. I sure do love Bayle. no one ever posts to the Bayle thread.

really dislike the idea of buying a physical edition of this two to five disc album again later, but I was too impatient to wait.

Milton Parker, Thursday, 19 May 2016 18:57 (three years ago) link

the other two tracks of elseq 2 are also excellent, agitated and glitchy

first impression: they do feel like 5 distinct collections, probably should have split them up instead of just queueing all in one go

StanM, Thursday, 19 May 2016 19:03 (three years ago) link

lol someone .5 star'd this within 30 minutes of it appearing on RYM

frogbs, Thursday, 19 May 2016 19:05 (three years ago) link

That's 247:38 total. You need a minimum of four CDs to hold that.

Ha whoa I was totally distracted by the high price point and missed how CRAZY LONG this album is. Really glad this isn't the 'repackaged live stuff' I was fearing

Brakhage, Thursday, 19 May 2016 19:07 (three years ago) link

did a quick skim of all of it and it's exactly what I'm in the mood for this year

last year I broke down and bought the rest of the roland kayn CDs I didn't have, so all 29 of them have been in random shuffle -- another pioneer of an algorithmic approach to music, where the point is an unknowable flood of so much of it that you stop thinking of it in terms of 'pieces' or 'albums' or even physical media, you stop consciously thinking of it in terms of putting on a specific album. you just engage with it as sound without that record-geek side of your consciousness stepping in to track or map which one's your favorite or which album it is or which stage of his career it is you're dealing with and instead it is all continuum. which is pretty much where you want to be; I don't want to know which disc I'm listening to.

roland kayn isn't on spotify or apple music of course, and those discs were expensive, so there's still a good deal of record geekery going on in getting myself to that space. but as everyone else I know is basically cozying up to the stream, generative music pieces from the 70s-90s is exactly what is helping me deal with living in a world that's making that transition

Milton Parker, Thursday, 19 May 2016 19:10 (three years ago) link

they were doing something like that with quaristice versions

yeah I still think of Quaristice (Versions) as the quote-unquote "real" album. might have another go with those Quadrange EPs - dunno if I can stomach that 58 minute track again though

frogbs, Thursday, 19 May 2016 19:19 (three years ago) link

Current status

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mdvu5ubs2J1qznncz.jpg

Brakhage, Thursday, 19 May 2016 19:30 (three years ago) link

yeah i forget which of the quaristice versions/ep/etc tracks are which, just the generative idea
eastre (22:15) = this feels like it might have been generated from 'altichyre'

Oh well I guess that's where I'll be starting then. When I get a chance.

I've had Eno, ugh (ledge), Thursday, 19 May 2016 20:11 (three years ago) link

arright then. let us know what happens

braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Thursday, 19 May 2016 20:14 (three years ago) link

Sure thing kid, if I make it out alive.

I've had Eno, ugh (ledge), Thursday, 19 May 2016 20:52 (three years ago) link

Fuck it, I'm gonna splurge on this and then make it the soundtrack for my flight to Detroit

Crazy Eddie & Jesus the Kid (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 19 May 2016 20:53 (three years ago) link

ashley must hear this

home organ, Friday, 20 May 2016 02:48 (three years ago) link

c16 deep tread is tiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.

0 / 0 (lukas), Friday, 20 May 2016 04:02 (three years ago) link

5 albums. Okay what am I, a machine??

TARANTINO! (dog latin), Friday, 20 May 2016 08:06 (three years ago) link

Has it really been 4 years since Exai? Needless to say I'm still just scratching the surface of that one.

TARANTINO! (dog latin), Friday, 20 May 2016 08:09 (three years ago) link

Only 3 yrs since Exai

Steve Reich In The Afternoon (Against The 80s), Friday, 20 May 2016 09:20 (three years ago) link

And I'm still finding new stuff in it!

Steve Reich In The Afternoon (Against The 80s), Friday, 20 May 2016 09:21 (three years ago) link

I'm still finding new tracks in it.

TARANTINO! (dog latin), Friday, 20 May 2016 09:49 (three years ago) link

Listened to 3 last night. mesh cinereaL sounds like this:

http://www.pocmtobs.com/-%20New%20Folder/Nasa/Dscn0034a.jpg

Also has two quality lol moments, I was grinning when it finished. I yearn for more! I did have a freaky scary dream afterwards but hopefully that wasn't related.

I've had Eno, ugh (ledge), Friday, 20 May 2016 12:07 (three years ago) link

To gear myself up to this, I've been revisting Quaristice and Oversteps, one of the most underrated eras of Autechre for some reason.

TARANTINO! (dog latin), Friday, 20 May 2016 12:54 (three years ago) link

Where can I hear whole versions of these tracks? They're cutting off at the 1 minute mark.

TARANTINO! (dog latin), Friday, 20 May 2016 12:57 (three years ago) link

Generally involves purchase.

MatthewK, Friday, 20 May 2016 12:59 (three years ago) link

can it wait till a while after physical versions arrive

Simon H., Tuesday, 10 July 2018 00:49 (one year ago) link

Find it pointless to even consider ranking NTS 1-4, but "all end" is beyond compare when I need that kind of thing. Each has at least 2 uniquely brilliant tracks. I haven't yet listened to the whole thing in a block but I am looking forward to it.

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Tuesday, 10 July 2018 00:56 (one year ago) link

voilvoic is kind of my secret favorite on this whole thing.

macropuente (map), Tuesday, 10 July 2018 00:57 (one year ago) link

i tried listening to a pared down version of this but i ended up missing every track i left off.

macropuente (map), Tuesday, 10 July 2018 00:57 (one year ago) link

even t1a1 which eventually finds its zone.

my favorite ambient-ish track might just be "carefree counter dronal" - bright and beautiful.

still transported to different planets by "13 ctrl" "four of seven" and "column thirteen"

macropuente (map), Tuesday, 10 July 2018 01:02 (one year ago) link

and the madness of "north spiral".

I love the LOL Autechre of calling the first track "t1a1".

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Tuesday, 10 July 2018 01:59 (one year ago) link

Seeing as there are so many tracks how would you all feel about a mini ballot poll for the NTS Sessions? I'm not necessarily volunteering but I think it might be fun.

Say, top 8 tracks ranked or unranked, and a sessions 1-4 ranked side poll. Wouldn't need a big production results thread or anything.

Not before the boxes are out there anyway.

*Not quite sure how the points are supposed to be weighted but haven't given it much thought.

Absolute Unit Delta Plus (Noel Emits), Tuesday, 17 July 2018 10:43 (one year ago) link

a mini ballot poll

A shimriPOLL casual, if you will.

Absolute Unit Delta Plus (Noel Emits), Tuesday, 17 July 2018 11:47 (one year ago) link

I like this idea

Paul Ponzi, Tuesday, 17 July 2018 13:44 (one year ago) link

four months pass...

pendulu hv moda is so magnificent

she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Tuesday, 20 November 2018 15:57 (one year ago) link

so much of what they do is so dark that when they decide to go sunny it's like a vitamin d overdose

macropuente (map), Tuesday, 20 November 2018 17:29 (one year ago) link

It's certainly magnificent, maybe my favourite of all their recent releases. And I guess it is quite sunny, yeah, until the grey clouds roll in and the alien mutant thunder rumbles low over the hills.

Toss another shrimpl air on the bbqbbq (ledge), Wednesday, 21 November 2018 09:36 (one year ago) link

Returning to this release my first thought these days is how poorly mastered it is. Compared to NTS (excellent return to form mastering wise), Exai and especially Oversteps, this is overly compressed, narrow sounding and in your face. Shame, since this is some their best work.

octobeard, Thursday, 22 November 2018 00:51 (one year ago) link

otm

macropuente (map), Thursday, 22 November 2018 00:59 (one year ago) link

Definitely one of their harsher sounding collections.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Thursday, 22 November 2018 01:37 (one year ago) link

Not sure of the authenticity of this but seems to be 400+(!) 1-2 minute pieces with accompanying slit-screen animations.

http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL5ow3ZyXAhopA4NUdSIuAfTCvWTemihut

Pyschocandles, Thursday, 22 November 2018 02:46 (one year ago) link

^^ ugh my bad. didn't see the other thread.

Pyschocandles, Thursday, 22 November 2018 02:58 (one year ago) link

My God I never even considered the possibility of needing to shell out for Ae remasters some day

Uhura Mazda (lukas), Thursday, 22 November 2018 04:01 (one year ago) link

It's kind of nuts that they need to be mastered (but I recall Frank Arkwright's name on many of their best releases). I'd imagined it might be possible to run the files through some kind of mastering algorithm as a final step, but on reflection that would mean it was possible for any digitally recorded music, and there are clearly people who are very good at mastering.

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Thursday, 22 November 2018 04:31 (one year ago) link

I've thought the same about elseq. The harshness and compression might be baked in, but perhaps not.

Noel Summerville did NTS and I marvel at how nice it sounds. Creamy smooth 'texture' but plenty of detail and impact.

Wegmüller Fruit Corner (Noel Emits), Thursday, 22 November 2018 08:20 (one year ago) link

What crosses my mind in terms of practicalities is that there's obvs a significant cost to getting that much material mastered. NTS was put out by Warp so presumably they will have paid mastering and production costs upfront but elseq was essentially self-released Maybe they could put a few quid back and get it redone. Wishful thinking.

Wegmüller Fruit Corner (Noel Emits), Thursday, 22 November 2018 08:28 (one year ago) link

Noel Summerville has mastered all their main releases since Draft 7.30, apparently, with the possible exception of elseq.

Wegmüller Fruit Corner (Noel Emits), Thursday, 22 November 2018 08:42 (one year ago) link

Further confirmation that I don't have 'golden ears'. Exai is the only one that's consistently given me audio fatigue.

Toss another shrimpl air on the bbqbbq (ledge), Thursday, 22 November 2018 08:52 (one year ago) link

Exai is quite dense and mid-rangey, perhaps. But that's more just a function of the music itself.

Wegmüller Fruit Corner (Noel Emits), Thursday, 22 November 2018 10:09 (one year ago) link

audio aural fatigue, of course. Listening to elseq 5 now, maybe it's just the power of suggestion but it does sound slightly harsh and thin. You fuckers!

Toss another shrimpl air on the bbqbbq (ledge), Thursday, 22 November 2018 10:17 (one year ago) link

I'm listening to this now for the first time in a while and am liking the harshness.

silverfish, Thursday, 22 November 2018 17:02 (one year ago) link

eastre (which I'm listening to right now) wouldn't be as good with NTS-style mastering I think. Having all these tiny bits exposed are what make this track, if this track was on NTS it would probably be more hidden beneath the main up and down melody

silverfish, Thursday, 22 November 2018 17:11 (one year ago) link

pendulu hv moda definitely reminds me of Eidetic Casein from Confield in that it's based off a fun and perhaps even catchy melody that gets garbled to the point of no return. but I think it's a better track b/c it demonstrates just how far they've progressed. maybe it's b/c this is the only way my dumb millennial brain works but to me they've sort of paralleled the evolution of video games, during the same time frame too - early stuff like Amber & Tri Rep like the SNES, tangible, limited but very artfully done...Confield/Draft/Untilted being the forays into 3-D worlds that were closed off...now this & the NTS records being like these huge open-world games where everything seems possible. each era being classic in its own way, but man - there's such a vastness to their recent work that's hard to explain. like...that gurgling pinball bass thump never quite goes away in this track does it? it's always lurking somewhere.

frogbs, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 20:32 (one year ago) link

one month passes...

here's a track that I don't see people talking about much here: "foldfree casual". there's such a heartbreaking melody in there. it's as gorgeous as anything on Oversteps if you ask me. I don't think there's a bad track on here. Besides "TBM2" I guess, which strikes me as something that probably wouldn't have gone on any of their other albums. The 4 hours just breeze by ~~~~~~~~~~~~~

frogbs, Thursday, 17 January 2019 22:18 (ten months ago) link

It's very much in the style of Drane2 (a good thing).

large bananas pregnant (ledge), Friday, 18 January 2019 14:01 (ten months ago) link

Elseq 5 is 'lost in the vast underground caverns, afraid of the monsters' par excellence.

large bananas pregnant (ledge), Friday, 18 January 2019 14:25 (ten months ago) link

ten months pass...

"feed1" is the best thing that's ever happened to me

american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 21 November 2019 16:08 (two weeks ago) link

I love how Autechre's music has slipped free of easy reference points, from instrumentation to titles.

Though, that plus release velocity makes finding a tune you half-remember quite a task.

(pendulu hv moda, this time)

lukas, Tuesday, 3 December 2019 06:26 (one week ago) link

if you just play them all the time then you don't have to remember anything

j., Tuesday, 3 December 2019 06:26 (one week ago) link

c16 deep tread and eastre are the alpha and the omega here for me

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 07:20 (one week ago) link

Has their been a trend piece on big-name electronic musicians from the 90s (Autechre, Aphex Twin, Underworld) turning to a strategy of releasing massive amounts of material? Underworld's Drift seemed a little more structured than Aphex Twin's big Soundcloud drop, though maybe if you graphed Autechre's release history over time there would be a pattern.

with hidden noise, Tuesday, 3 December 2019 07:54 (one week ago) link

everyone releases massive amounts of material now

j., Tuesday, 3 December 2019 08:15 (one week ago) link

of course since Oversteps their releases have roughly gone 1, 2, 4, 8 hours in duration - awaiting the next with interest

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 08:24 (one week ago) link

In a time when the internet can quash any initial mystique about a piece of pop culture in just a few clicks, Autechre's music still feels enigmatic and mysterious to me.

YOU CALL THIS JOURNALSIM? (dog latin), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 09:30 (one week ago) link

don't forget the 28 hours of live performances.

koogs, Tuesday, 3 December 2019 10:08 (one week ago) link

and those weird colour-noise videos

YOU CALL THIS JOURNALSIM? (dog latin), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 10:18 (one week ago) link

indeed, they are restless spirits

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 11:15 (one week ago) link

you could also maybe add FSOL's endless stream of archival releases & Moby's very long ambient albums, though this along with the Aphex dump all seem like very different things than what Autechre & Underworld are doing. both those groups have always produced a ton of music & I think the 'trend' is just to go, "what if we didn't have to cut this to an hour?". to me there isn't a huge difference in what Ae is doing now and say, the Tri Rep/Garbage/Anvil Vapre period, or say LP5/EP7, just that those releases were edited to fit the CD and these aren't. which in turn affects the sort of things they choose to pursue. in Underworld's case, they've always had endless B-sides and non-album tracks for people to obsess over, most of which just never got released

frogbs, Tuesday, 3 December 2019 15:36 (one week ago) link

to me this definitely feels like artists not having the constraint of physical media as the main distribution method anymore and adjusting accordingly + having a solid enough fan base so that they can release really long and possibly difficult material and know that enough people are willing to put in the required time to listen to that material

silverfish, Tuesday, 3 December 2019 15:44 (one week ago) link

Also more releases probably = more streaming revenue, right?

lukas, Tuesday, 3 December 2019 16:08 (one week ago) link

Well, since streaming revenue is per track listened rather than time listened, then autechre are possibly making bad business decisions.

silverfish, Tuesday, 3 December 2019 17:22 (one week ago) link

of course since Oversteps their releases have roughly gone 1, 2, 4, 8 hours in duration - awaiting the next with interest

Two more and they'll be up there with Terre Thaemlitz's Soulnessless (16GB microSD card, 32 hours). I never bought that, but I did get that Farmers Manual DVD-ROM back in the day. About 93 hours of material on that. Of which I think I've heard about 2%. Still, time off over Xmas, eh?

Michael Jones, Tuesday, 3 December 2019 17:51 (one week ago) link

if you just play them all the time then you don't have to remember anything

― j., Tuesday, December 3, 2019 1:26 AM (eleven hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

this is pretty much my philosophy

Paul Ponzi, Tuesday, 3 December 2019 18:25 (one week ago) link

fretting about remembering track titles is for boomers

éminence rose et jaune (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 18:29 (one week ago) link

to me this definitely feels like artists not having the constraint of physical media as the main distribution method anymore and adjusting accordingly + having a solid enough fan base so that they can release really long and possibly difficult material and know that enough people are willing to put in the required time to listen to that material

― silverfish, Tuesday, December 3, 2019 10:44 AM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

tbf this level of loyalty currently applies to about .02% of all living / working artists

Paul Ponzi, Tuesday, 3 December 2019 18:29 (one week ago) link


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