King Gizzard & the Lizard Wizard - Nonagon Infinity

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Fuck this is good

nostormo, Wednesday, 4 May 2016 22:03 (six years ago) link

gonna guess no

some men just want to watch the world Bern (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 4 May 2016 22:06 (six years ago) link

it iz it izz

contenderizer, Wednesday, 4 May 2016 22:20 (six years ago) link

https://vimeo.com/157973501

Guess again
Xpost

nostormo, Wednesday, 4 May 2016 22:21 (six years ago) link

I liked Papier Mache Dream Balloon (or w/e it was called) well enough

Stoner Gabbneb & the Cocoon of Cluelessness (Drugs A. Money), Wednesday, 4 May 2016 23:52 (six years ago) link

normally don't trust much from this city, but they're mostly good.

Justin Townes' URL (haitch), Thursday, 5 May 2016 00:51 (six years ago) link

It might be good. I don't regret looking at this thread.

dlp9001, Thursday, 5 May 2016 02:17 (six years ago) link

four weeks pass...

Paper Mache Dream Balloon sounds like 90s Of Montreal, and I love it. Don't understand the drastic change in sound. They want to sound tougher I guess.

nicky lo-fi, Friday, 3 June 2016 23:36 (six years ago) link

Wasn't PMDB the stylistic diversion?

New one is maybe my 2nd favorite album of the year after Black Star.

Immediate Follower (NA), Saturday, 4 June 2016 00:18 (six years ago) link

Spotify really wants me to listen to this

rockpalast '82 (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 4 June 2016 00:24 (six years ago) link

You should, it rules.

Immediate Follower (NA), Saturday, 4 June 2016 00:29 (six years ago) link

one month passes...

Turned up in Pitchfork's overlooked music list about a week ago:

http://pitchfork.com/features/lists-and-guides/9910-overlooked-albums-2016/

Mercury 422 830 398, Tuesday, 12 July 2016 15:32 (six years ago) link

Wasn't PMDB the stylistic diversion?

yes. nonagon infinity just doubles down on the fidgety, high-energy, garage punk that's their primary through-line so far. one of my 2016 favorites, and i'm surprised it hasn't caught on with fans of tongue-in-cheek prog oddity.

oculus lump (contenderizer), Tuesday, 12 July 2016 17:23 (six years ago) link

yeah this is great. never listened to any of their other albums

global tetrahedron, Monday, 25 July 2016 15:15 (six years ago) link

finally listening to this, great! they really got psychedelic ants in their pants

Steve Gunn Mann-Dude (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 25 July 2016 18:24 (six years ago) link

based on this i feel like they'd be really fun live

global tetrahedron, Monday, 25 July 2016 18:44 (six years ago) link

yeah def seem "high energy"

Steve Gunn Mann-Dude (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 25 July 2016 18:46 (six years ago) link

global have you heard General Baby (local band), has a bit of this vibe but more lo-fi zappa

Steve Gunn Mann-Dude (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 25 July 2016 18:46 (six years ago) link

(it's from that whole larry wish & his guys house show axis that i don't really fully understand)

Steve Gunn Mann-Dude (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 25 July 2016 18:47 (six years ago) link

never heard of em!

global tetrahedron, Monday, 25 July 2016 19:10 (six years ago) link

General Baby don't even have a web presence, really

global tetrahedron, Monday, 25 July 2016 19:11 (six years ago) link

oops i guess they used to be fortified five that's why it's hard to find

https://fortifiedfive.bandcamp.com/album/a-brief-demonstration-on-baby-talkin

Steve Gunn Mann-Dude (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 25 July 2016 21:13 (six years ago) link

one year passes...

Ilx doesn't love the gizzards and that's a fact.the last album is very good though.

nostormo, Tuesday, 21 November 2017 17:28 (five years ago) link

most recent one (polygondwanaland) is super-proggy and totally rules. these aussie freaks own 2017 imho

reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 21 November 2017 17:39 (five years ago) link

this is one of the best bands going rn

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Tuesday, 21 November 2017 17:42 (five years ago) link

I like them

sleeve, Tuesday, 21 November 2017 17:44 (five years ago) link

especially their microtonal/weird tuning stuff, a lot of stuff on that Banana record sounds great.

not so keen on the new one with narration, it seems extraneous

sleeve, Tuesday, 21 November 2017 17:44 (five years ago) link

Yeah i meant polygondwa above as their best record of the year. I wish they werent as repetitive melody wise though. Like back in the Fill Your Lungs days..

nostormo, Tuesday, 21 November 2017 17:46 (five years ago) link

they seem like they're excellent live too- the main guy definitely borrows some john dwyer moves tho

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGHgpVU3UuU

global tetrahedron, Tuesday, 21 November 2017 17:48 (five years ago) link

https://youtu.be/_Eg3OUQPayk

Gold

nostormo, Tuesday, 21 November 2017 19:25 (five years ago) link

one month passes...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDnOJkrRv3g

reggie (qualmsley), Saturday, 30 December 2017 19:54 (five years ago) link

Who can report on the new one ?

calstars, Saturday, 30 December 2017 20:06 (five years ago) link

bit of a psychedelic soul vibe. mellower stuff, a la paper mache dream balloon and sketches of brunswick east

reggie (qualmsley), Saturday, 30 December 2017 20:16 (five years ago) link

Sounds like mediocre b-sides for all previous 4, except for one surprising and great doom metal/Uncle Acid style song (Great Chain Of Being)

nostormo, Saturday, 30 December 2017 22:40 (five years ago) link

"muddy water" sounds like a victory lap

reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 3 January 2018 17:45 (five years ago) link

"barefoot desert" is dope. 1 year, 64 songs. damn!

reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 5 January 2018 21:36 (five years ago) link

two weeks pass...

destroying all that will keep us heading for a meta-thesis

\m/

reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 23:28 (five years ago) link

four months pass...

chill band

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENCswmcSALI

Slippage (Ross), Monday, 11 June 2018 07:18 (four years ago) link

I only need to see nardwuar once every 5 years or so but that is good servietting

Hunt3r, Monday, 11 June 2018 14:18 (four years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Friend last night: "have you heard ... they're called like ... Daniel Strudel and the Noodle Doodle?"

mick signals, Tuesday, 3 July 2018 14:36 (four years ago) link

Omg actual lol

Hunt3r, Tuesday, 3 July 2018 14:38 (four years ago) link

eight months pass...

ILM don't care about Gizzard and you may be right at this point.Used to be great though.

nostormo, Friday, 29 March 2019 19:24 (three years ago) link

four months pass...

ok i listened to the latest i was erm not expecting straight 86 speed metally thrash. Its not terrible i guess.

It made me think of HNIA’s different smart-ass visitation to metalfrom 2016, which was like, sunshine prog-metal(?). HNIA’s album was actually much more interesting imo.

Hunt3r, Friday, 23 August 2019 23:47 (three years ago) link

lot of young aussie bro's really really like these dudes (and possibly drugs??)

Tokyo Ghetto Stüssy (King Boy Pato), Friday, 23 August 2019 23:54 (three years ago) link

because i'm slightly interested in what they're on about, repeated listens haven't been bad, also the guit style is more thrash than beedleybeedleybeedlebeedely. i guess ecoconscious thrash shit is closer fit for olds who are more garage or postpunk maybe. 'i have gone insane-o i lust for volcano pee with molten lava give me my nirvana' and 'auto-cremate! self-immolate!'

Hunt3r, Saturday, 24 August 2019 13:28 (three years ago) link

Taking my son to see them in a few weeks, he's a big fan. Trying to get caught up on their endless catalog. They seem like great musicians, very creative and intense, but the sheer repetition of their approach wears me down.

Which ones should I listen to if I want to hear them mix it up more? So far I've liked Flying Microtonal Banana the most, but I've barely scratched the surface.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Monday, 26 August 2019 13:52 (three years ago) link

nonagon infinity is the most accessible to early olds imo, it's relentless and stirring.

i love the first one that was my intro, which is very psych- can't remember the name, it has Head On/Pill?

I'm in Your Mindfuzz is pretty strong imo.

I was meh on Fishing For Fishies which is working that sound conceit so hard, or maybe not the sound I wanted. The recent is really fun, but it's way chewing gummy to me. Still the more I listen, there more I am charmed by it.

I can't remember Polygondwanaland, so...

Hunt3r, Monday, 26 August 2019 20:57 (three years ago) link

I was half-hoping the new one would be even more thrashy, which is kind of a funny thing — they're constantly churning out so many records in so many different veins that you wind up with a fairly loose attachment to any of them sounding particularly Gizzardy. Or maybe it's just the nature of thrash that once you blend a little of it into what you're doing, it starts feeling like you might as well thrash all the way; it's kind of an extremist genre!

At some point they should release a detailed guide to their working methods, like a productivity self-help book for rock musicians. At this point I'm just curious how they divide up their time.

ንፁህ አበበ (nabisco), Monday, 26 August 2019 22:17 (three years ago) link

Minimize chord progressions, tempo changes, syncopation, and vocal melodies seems to be part of it, at least for the straightforward rock LPs.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Tuesday, 27 August 2019 02:54 (three years ago) link

gonna guess no

― some men just want to watch the world Bern (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, May 4, 2016 5:06 PM (three years ago)

this is definitive

j., Tuesday, 27 August 2019 03:00 (three years ago) link

listening to these guys for the first time, love it - "dripping tap" is the shit

ꙮ (map), Saturday, 24 December 2022 00:09 (one month ago) link

kraut section reminds me of super roots 7 but sub in prog rock tunefulness for tape speed experiments

ꙮ (map), Saturday, 24 December 2022 00:12 (one month ago) link

Signature move indeed

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Saturday, 24 December 2022 04:20 (one month ago) link

It would be interesting to see what everyone's top 5 KGLW albums are, so many to pick from at this point

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Saturday, 24 December 2022 04:42 (one month ago) link

two weeks pass...

I see they're touring. I'm only a casual fan - I know their discography is ridiculous but I've scarcely listened to 1/4 of it - but I'm sure it would be a great show. £40 a ticket though, is that normal these days? Sold out anyway.

ledge, Wednesday, 11 January 2023 12:08 (three weeks ago) link

lol that's sort of my thinking. I've only heard one or two songs from them, but they've released 100 albums and have earned a grassroots level of legit appreciation, so advantage King Gizzard, I will totally see them. (fwiw, was just visiting family in Australia, and neither my brother in law - nor *his* hipper brother in law - had heard of them.)

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 11 January 2023 12:51 (three weeks ago) link

I went to the Red Rocks show in November 2022 as "only a casual fan" and left a fully converted Gizzhead after 30 songs and a three-hour marathon set.

One of the best live shows I saw all year.

I can't tell if he's trolling or not (ilxor), Thursday, 12 January 2023 06:05 (three weeks ago) link

XP: If they get a giddy mention in a state government press announcement they can't be toooo obscure domestically!

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Thursday, 12 January 2023 09:49 (three weeks ago) link

they've played some pretty big venues here in aus but it's a cult following thing where unless you're an active music fan you probably wouldn't know who they are

ufo, Thursday, 12 January 2023 11:39 (three weeks ago) link

got a ticket, in the circle, ah well. nevertheless.

ledge, Monday, 16 January 2023 11:44 (three weeks ago) link

having listened to two of the most recent of their five 2022 albums i'm feeling good about my decision (to buy the ticket, would still prefer to be in the stalls).

ledge, Monday, 16 January 2023 16:55 (three weeks ago) link

I'm a pretty big fan of these guys, but didn't expect they'd have a lot of ilm love. I'm really disappointed that they've given up releasing their music on CD and have just fully embraced the multi-pressing, varied color LP thing for every single release, but the 2022 material was pretty good. I'd rank 'em:

Ice, Death, Lungs, Mushrooms and Lava (seriously great record that I recommend to the curious, one of their best albums ever imho)
Omnium Gatherum
Laminated Denim
Made in Timeland
Changes

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 17 January 2023 16:30 (three weeks ago) link

Dumb question about bands like this and lots of other similarly prolific acts. Can they really remember and tell apart all the hundreds of weird songs they've released? I always wondered that about guided by voices; so many songs, so many weird non-sequitor titles, how many could Robert Pollard name? I suppose jazz guys are equally if not more prolific - like, how many albums or songs has Bill Frisell recorded? I bet even he has no idea - but jazz is often about quickly moving forward onto the next thing, not a lot of retrospective stuff. Does a band like this operate similarly? Are there songs fans expect them to play, or do they expect every set to be a semi-improvised psychedelic explosion, with a few nods here and there to current stuff or fan fave stuff?

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 17 January 2023 16:57 (three weeks ago) link

I've never seen them live, but heard a few live recordings and it seems to be all over the place - some shows are just a grab-bag from all over, they have a number of fan favorites that show up a lot, other focus more on specific modes/genres (the microtonal thing they've done on a few albums, or the heavier rock stuff paired with the material from the thrash record, etc.).

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 17 January 2023 17:00 (three weeks ago) link

KGLW definitely play specific songs in their live shows including at least a few fan favorites, I don't think the live material is particularly improvised. They obviously have a lot of space for improvised solos, but it all seems fairly planned out in advance.

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Tuesday, 17 January 2023 17:13 (three weeks ago) link

Can they really remember and tell apart all the hundreds of weird songs they've released?

Stu is insanely sharp, and seems to have a handle on everything Gizzard has done (though he admits he doesn't own all their stuff on vinyl). It helps, I think, that a lot of their stuff is conceptual, in sound if not text: each of the three albums they put out at the end of last year follows its own strict concept, and I interviewed him about them and he had a real clear understanding about each one, how the songs work within that concept, and what they were doing. He's deep into world-building and has an insanely driven work-ethic - he's not just throwing stuff at the wall to see what sticks, everything seems, on some level, to be an intellectual exercise, and he understands what he's doing and what the music is doing. With Pollard, I feel there's a mercenary vibe that's developed in later years (maybe less so than circa GBV's initial split and the avalanche of releases that followed), where he seems to be focused on making PRODUCT, and knowing that there's a faithful audience there that will purchase all his output, even box sets sourced from fan-circulate bootlegs. For Stu, he seems genuinely intellectually engaged with each project Gizz do - there's an infectious sense of joy, and one shared among the other bandmates. It's a bit of a utopian thing, if you can dig it.

his cartoon heart expands, then he relaxes by smoking crack (stevie), Tuesday, 17 January 2023 17:18 (three weeks ago) link

Are there songs fans expect them to play, or do they expect every set to be a semi-improvised psychedelic explosion, with a few nods here and there to current stuff or fan fave stuff?

At the Red Rocks show in November 2022, they played 30 distinct songs from their 23 albums. Many had improvisational bits added and/or were extended live versions, but the improvisation was tied to existing studio cuts. A few songs were transitioned into each other seamlessly (unlike on the studio albums). The two prior Red Rocks shows in October had another 55 to 60 unique songs with no overlap between the three setlists — close to 90 songs across three shows and nine hours.

I spoke with a superfan who said that altogether, King Gizzard played about 130 different songs on last year's tour.

This summer's run of three Red Rocks shows in June 2023 is promised to be similar. Three shows with no overlap between the setlists for fans who want to attend all three (... and you can guess how many shows I have tickets for).

I can't tell if he's trolling or not (ilxor), Tuesday, 17 January 2023 17:48 (three weeks ago) link

I'm really disappointed that they've given up releasing their music on CD

My wallet is torn about this. I have a complete set of King Gizzard studio albums on CD — it was finally easier to keep up last year!

I can't tell if he's trolling or not (ilxor), Tuesday, 17 January 2023 17:50 (three weeks ago) link

I'm just not into the variant chasing thing and their vinyl is really expensive (although I did finally cave and buy Ice, Death) so I was happy to keep rolling with the CDs. The abandonment was surprising since they'd even gone back a year or two ago to specifically release stuff that wasn't previously on CD, like Quarters.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 17 January 2023 17:54 (three weeks ago) link

Hopefully, they'll come back around with CD pressings of the recent albums. I'll certainly pick up copies if they do.

I can't tell if he's trolling or not (ilxor), Tuesday, 17 January 2023 18:28 (three weeks ago) link

Ice, Death, Lungs, Mushrooms and Lava (seriously great record that I recommend to the curious, one of their best albums ever imho)
Omnium Gatherum
Laminated Denim
Made in Timeland
Changes

― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, January 17, 2023 11:30 AM (five hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

interesting, Changes is my fav of their 2022 albums! feels like the most fusiony steely dan-ish of them. Omnium Gatherum prob would've been #1 without the rapping.

some dude, Tuesday, 17 January 2023 21:35 (three weeks ago) link

I need to give Changes more of a chance I think, it honestly might have been KG exhaustion by the time I got to it when I was powering through the three October albums. Yeah, the rapping was awful and I'm so glad Changes wasn't the "rap" album that some fans were theorizing on based on the cover art.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 17 January 2023 21:37 (three weeks ago) link

yeah otm i love all their sounds so far but the dad rap

ꙮ (map), Tuesday, 17 January 2023 21:40 (three weeks ago) link

Omnium Gatherum prob would've been #1 without the rapping.

There was almost a whole rap album. Omnium's my favourite of the bunch, and 'The Dripping Tap' is probably my favourite track of 2022 and maybe the best thing they've ever done? 'Gaia''s also their best full-on metal number yet. But all those records are great.

his cartoon heart expands, then he relaxes by smoking crack (stevie), Tuesday, 17 January 2023 22:32 (three weeks ago) link

So there was some basis to those rumors/theories... er, uh, not looking forward to that one.

"The Dripping Tap" alone is what prompted OG to be my #2 for the year.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 17 January 2023 22:33 (three weeks ago) link

Hahaha, I don't think it'll ever see the light of day tbh. Joey said "We were very aware how problematic it was, six white idiot psych-rock guys, making hip-hop…”

his cartoon heart expands, then he relaxes by smoking crack (stevie), Tuesday, 17 January 2023 22:35 (three weeks ago) link

Ice, Death, Lungs, Mushrooms and Lava (seriously great record that I recommend to the curious, one of their best albums ever imho)

listened to this earlier, never heard this band before but it reminded me so much of Gong that i ended up throwing on the Dashiell Hedayat record.

The field divisions are fastened with felicitations. (Deflatormouse), Tuesday, 17 January 2023 22:40 (three weeks ago) link

They definitely are like an Antipodean Gong. Same playfil attitude allied to thrilling muso chops and willingness to go balls-out without a safety net.

his cartoon heart expands, then he relaxes by smoking crack (stevie), Tuesday, 17 January 2023 22:47 (three weeks ago) link

not quite sold on this band but i'm onboard with the recurring falsetto wooooh's that enochroot didn't like, it's never quite expected and made me laugh a bunch of times.

yeah, broadly Gong-like in attitude and approach but there are also more direct similarities, at least on that one record.

The field divisions are fastened with felicitations. (Deflatormouse), Tuesday, 17 January 2023 22:56 (three weeks ago) link

Can they really remember and tell apart all the hundreds of weird songs they've released? I always wondered that about guided by voices; so many songs, so many weird non-sequitor titles, how many could Robert Pollard name?

well a key difference is they have a ton of stylistic variety compared to guided by voices who pretty much just have one sound so it's probably easier for them

ufo, Tuesday, 17 January 2023 22:59 (three weeks ago) link

God this band is good live. Yet I never have any desire to listen to their recorded output. Bummed I didn't catch tickets for their upcoming Brisbane show. If you ever get a chance to see the Giz, do not pass it up, even if you hate them.

hrep (H.P), Wednesday, 18 January 2023 04:53 (two weeks ago) link

Yeah I'd love to see them, but the tickets disappear almost instantly around here, since they (understandably) don't tour a ton over here, meaning their shows are "events".

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 18 January 2023 16:03 (two weeks ago) link

Diving more into Omnium. These guys rule. I even like the rap tracks. So much wit and spirit. I wasn’t sure about em but I’m getting increasing returns.

ꙮ (map), Saturday, 28 January 2023 22:20 (one week ago) link

The most impressive thing about the giz is that with their ridiculous output, they’re never boring.

hrep (H.P), Sunday, 29 January 2023 00:05 (one week ago) link

yeah totally! i mean there are honestly some sections here and there when i am a little ??? but the imagination and engagement is just consistently there & they always bring a smile to my face within a few seconds. some impressive songwriting too that feels very intuitive. as far as the metal goes, it's not like they're technical masters or anything, but the real draw through all their styles for me is the philosophy, outlook and spirit behind it. like "gaia" as a subject, that's hippie shit, but they kind of go off the deep end a little bit, i.e. it's hippie stuff that gets it right and drops the self-importance and is more often than not an arresting song, like the byrds' "5d" or something.

ꙮ (map), Sunday, 29 January 2023 00:14 (one week ago) link

it's perfect stoner music for the times and makes me have some faith in people since they're apparently kinda huge now among a certain type? i also just love that they deliver a concentrated version of the feeling of being younger and having a bunch of music freaks for friends and just like eating it all whole.

ꙮ (map), Sunday, 29 January 2023 00:16 (one week ago) link

i'm also enjoying that they're not afraid of some things that might come across as kinda cheesy, it's all in the service of their whole vibe. also when they bring out eclectic instruments, even when they're obviously not masters of the instrument or anything, the imagination delivers and, like you said h p, it's never boring.

ꙮ (map), Sunday, 29 January 2023 00:20 (one week ago) link

otm to everything. They really capture some of the best parts of Australian youth culture: wide optimism towards everything, the willingness to have "FUN" at the expense of status. Re: the hippie stuff, I think it's because Giz is so broad in their style that whichever style they pick loses the corniness as it is more of an exercise of "let's pull out all the fun/good from this particular style" and less of a "lets take conceptual metal albums or hippie gaia musing as some narrow road to the truth" that can inadvertently come out of bands where such a style is a sole focus.

hrep (H.P), Sunday, 29 January 2023 00:45 (one week ago) link

and yeah, they are huge over here. It's a surprise to meet anyone under 30 who doesn't at least know of the giz. And I mean anyone, yuppies, beachies, do-nothing'ies, churchies, skate'ies, gamer....'ies, etc. etc. And even if the band is not for said people, there's still a sense of respect given (work-ethic and diversity, we suck at it so we respect it when we see it).

hrep (H.P), Sunday, 29 January 2023 00:48 (one week ago) link

oh that's interesting to hear about their audience in australia.

ꙮ (map), Sunday, 29 January 2023 00:50 (one week ago) link

i see them doing all of these big venues here in the states in the summer, red rocks and all that - with multi-day engagements, matinee shows, that kind of thing. it seems to me that they're the perfect "college music fan" band of the 2020s, i think of the crowd i was with in the early 2000s that were into flaming lips and jam bands and indie rock and jazz and stuff.

ꙮ (map), Sunday, 29 January 2023 00:55 (one week ago) link

everyone otm and I need to listen to them more, they are very big with the kids at the college station I DJ at

sleeve, Sunday, 29 January 2023 01:16 (one week ago) link

I’m getting increasing returns.

This is absolutely them, for me. The more I listen, the more I love it. The more of it there is, the more I admire them. It helps that my 8yo is currently OBSESSED and plays them non-stop at the moment.

Re: Gaia, I think that's their best "metal" song yet. I think it was Rat's Nest that made me realise how genius this band was - that they could play such a breadth of music, but also demonstrate such a depth of understanding, or at very least sincere enthusiasm, in all that music at the same time. They played thrash so well, so enjoyably. But Gaia is something else - the way the riffs ride over the switching grooves, the sliding sections of it, the sheer heaviness and darkness of it.

Their embrace of climate politics is 100% sincere, by the way. I don't doubt Stu believes Gaia theory and is probably on the planet's side tbh.

his cartoon heart expands, then he relaxes by smoking crack (stevie), Monday, 30 January 2023 13:51 (one week ago) link

yep I agree with map, idk if this band is gonna be my thing (I like what I've heard though) but either way it's super cool they're as big as they are. They really do seem to be having fun with what they're doing and I love how they seem to just let anyone who wants to press their records. For a band as strange as they are sometimes they seem to be fairly well known. I've heard them brought up in conversation a lot lately and my local shop has a bunch of posters for them up.

frogbs, Monday, 30 January 2023 14:47 (one week ago) link

Their embrace of climate politics is 100% sincere, by the way. I don't doubt Stu believes Gaia theory and is probably on the planet's side tbh.

oh absolutely, you can hear it! i didn't mean to sound dismissive of it by calling it hippie shit - that is really nice to hear atm and i think it's part of what makes them so appealing. "gaia" also dives into a kind of cosmology that i also basically agree with. there is an embrace of death in a lot of their lyrics / subjects that feels like the opposite of nihilism to me.

ꙮ (map), Monday, 30 January 2023 15:19 (one week ago) link

my other fav on omnium right now is "evilest man." the subject matter of "conservative media" is like .. proceed with caution for me, lol, not something i necessarily want to hear a song about, you know? but i'm all in when it gets to this section:

I wonder if he knows this song
Probably read before it was done
He probably hacked my phone
I'll change the locks when I get home

and after the last line it just blasts off into one of their psych guitar explosions - like it's such a gratifying affirmation of interior personal space in the face of some hall of mirrors nightmare land.

ꙮ (map), Monday, 30 January 2023 17:25 (one week ago) link

i got ice, death..., laminated denim and changes based on jon via chi's list. he is otm about ice, death..., what a great album, just deep psychedelic rock goodness that goes further into their earth-based cosmology. that first track is so unbelievably euphoric. laminated denim burns bright too, two 15 min tracks with some ashra / can shenanigans going on. haven't connected as strongly to changes yet but think it's likely i will.

ꙮ (map), Sunday, 5 February 2023 21:15 (two days ago) link

pastiche distillation music

CerebralCaustic, Sunday, 5 February 2023 21:33 (two days ago) link

With Pollard, I feel there's a mercenary vibe that's developed in later years (maybe less so than circa GBV's initial split and the avalanche of releases that followed), where he seems to be focused on making PRODUCT, and knowing that there's a faithful audience there that will purchase all his output, even box sets sourced from fan-circulate bootlegs. For Stu, he seems genuinely intellectually engaged with each project Gizz do - there's an infectious sense of joy, and one shared among the other bandmates. It's a bit of a utopian thing, if you can dig it.

― his cartoon heart expands, then he relaxes by smoking crack (stevie), Tuesday, January 17, 2023 11:18 AM

If they did a collabo with Guided By Voices, I really hope they call it "Doug Gillard and the Lillard Willard"

Front-loaded albums are musical gerrymandering (Prefecture), Sunday, 5 February 2023 21:40 (two days ago) link

hahahahahaha!

his cartoon heart expands, then he relaxes by smoking crack (stevie), Sunday, 5 February 2023 22:48 (two days ago) link


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