or score a love prayer
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 25 March 2020 19:45 (four years ago) link
what's the matter with peace love and understanding
― lukas, Wednesday, 25 March 2020 19:46 (four years ago) link
sayin
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 25 March 2020 19:47 (four years ago) link
https://kaitlynaureliasmith.bandcamp.com/album/the-mosaic-of-transformation
Enjoying the new album
― mirostones, Friday, 15 May 2020 13:03 (four years ago) link
It's a bit more chill and vocal focus. Feels like a return to the direction she took on Euclid.
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Friday, 15 May 2020 14:37 (four years ago) link
I am very into this, so dreamy
― coptic feels (seandalai), Saturday, 16 May 2020 00:32 (three years ago) link
So, apparently she’s an anti-vaxxer too? Bummed to find out that facet. I don’t mind the crystal vibe zone aspect of her personality, but this puts her work in a whole new, unfortunately, less charitable view for me.
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 20 May 2020 22:36 (three years ago) link
lj warned us back in 2017.
― pomenitul, Wednesday, 20 May 2020 22:43 (three years ago) link
Ah fuck, really? Where did she air these views?
― Position Position, Wednesday, 20 May 2020 23:00 (three years ago) link
Kaitlyn Aurelia Smith did an AMA yesterday and didn't answer a question about her apparently being an anti-vaxxer. This all sucks, obviously, but something I didn't expect is that I'd now begin to view her musical endeavors as some sort of grift. pic.twitter.com/0GqQ3Bbnl2— Joshua Minsoo Kim (@misterminsoo) May 20, 2020
― pomenitul, Wednesday, 20 May 2020 23:01 (three years ago) link
the new age movement has always involved a lot of grift, didn't help that the skeptical community turned out to be raging jackasses
― avellano medio inglés (f. hazel), Wednesday, 20 May 2020 23:10 (three years ago) link
Zappa to thread.
― pomenitul, Wednesday, 20 May 2020 23:12 (three years ago) link
She makes vaguely new age music? Its going to come with the territory
― anvil, Wednesday, 20 May 2020 23:13 (three years ago) link
Wholly unsurprising, but yeah I think it's ok to enjoy the music that comes out of being a crystal-brain yogahead
― change display name (Jordan), Wednesday, 20 May 2020 23:20 (three years ago) link
"I'd now begin to view her musical endeavours as some sort of a grift"
Hassling an established micro-celebrity about a viewpoint that they've expressed via a single Instagram story is full-tilt narcissistic abuse. I read that AMA yesterday and I hope that everybody's next favourite band is a cliff and they all dive right in
Not saying anti-vaxxers aren't the worst, they are, but ffs when is this shit gonna abate
― it’s been one week since you pissed on me (flamboyant goon tie included), Wednesday, 20 May 2020 23:21 (three years ago) link
I agree - and good for her getting paid for selling music to that app she isn’t complicit in some terrible sin bc she wants to make a living from her music
― Mordy, Wednesday, 20 May 2020 23:25 (three years ago) link
thirded
― brimstead, Wednesday, 20 May 2020 23:28 (three years ago) link
I think it's ok to enjoy the music that comes out of being a crystal-brain yogahead
Of course it is! And, if you think about it, accusations of grift don't make sense. It would be more suspicious if she wasn't an anti-vaxxer
― anvil, Wednesday, 20 May 2020 23:29 (three years ago) link
FWIW being a “crystal brain yogahead” is totally fine and also a far cry from pushing dangerous anti-science bullshit. The AMA dodge doesn’t bother me, it’s the straight up anti-vaxx propaganda she posted on IG that rubs me the wrong way. Conflating being into yoga and crystals with being dangerously anti-science is also fucking stupid.
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 20 May 2020 23:31 (three years ago) link
For the record, I’m not co-signing the “grifter” accusation, that’s weird to single her out for getting paid through teaming up with an app. She’s hardly the first musician to do so.
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 20 May 2020 23:34 (three years ago) link
Thats also fine!
People are going to have different levels about what they cancel artists over. This one is hardly a surprise though
― anvil, Wednesday, 20 May 2020 23:35 (three years ago) link
The grifter argument is probably more about expectation that an artist be a certain sort of person and when it turns out they might not be quite that, the gap between expectation and reality can't be resolved for some
― anvil, Wednesday, 20 May 2020 23:38 (three years ago) link
Who are the people who what they really responded to in her music was responsible medical advice and promises to never sell out
― Mordy, Wednesday, 20 May 2020 23:40 (three years ago) link
The people upset in the AMA?!
― anvil, Wednesday, 20 May 2020 23:42 (three years ago) link
i mean obviously not but somehow learning that she isn't those things is still spoiling the joy i guess
― Mordy, Wednesday, 20 May 2020 23:46 (three years ago) link
Exactly. I mean I was pretty much in love with her (as much as an adult can fawn over an artist these days) until the anti-vaxx news. I still love her music, but my feelings for her the person have been shattered.
People are disappointed that KAS is anti-science, which is a valid criticism of ANYONE these days, let alone your favorite Buchla jamming artist. It's like finding out Neil Gaiman and Beck were Scientologists.
― octobeard, Thursday, 21 May 2020 00:26 (three years ago) link
Regardless of whether we "love" her music or not, she has revolutionized the use of modular synth in popular music, developed an entirely unique songwriting style, literally doesn't drink and is as straight as they come, and the only thing that is getting cancelled in 2020 is toxic fandom and patterns of abusive control. Go harass a real celebrity if you want to pretend to be an activist
― it’s been one week since you pissed on me (flamboyant goon tie included), Thursday, 21 May 2020 00:43 (three years ago) link
(That last statement isn't directed at anyone here obv I'm just super-pissed that I log into an AMA and top post is people dragging KAS over a fucking Instagram story reblogging somebody else's dumb belief.)
― it’s been one week since you pissed on me (flamboyant goon tie included), Thursday, 21 May 2020 00:46 (three years ago) link
anti-anti-vaxxers are almost worse than anti-vaxxers imo
my feelings for her the person have been shattered.
also come on dude this is truly pathetic, are you like a grown man? get a life
― crystal-brained yogahead (map), Thursday, 21 May 2020 00:55 (three years ago) link
She's one of the few artists I kinda fell for in a dopey fanboy over the last few years. Nothing wrong with that, other than some embarrassment when confessing here haha. I just vibed with her sound and persona, creating an emotional connection. I was one of those "overpraise" comments in one of those Whiney polls for the Ears album.
― octobeard, Thursday, 21 May 2020 01:00 (three years ago) link
Go harass a real celebrity if you want to pretend to be an activist
It was an AMA, the third A being "anything", and clarifying someone's beliefs that they publicly expressed via social media (even if it was a lazy reblogging of some BS) is a totally valid fan question to ask an artist in a public forum! That's not harassment. She's publicly evangelizing beliefs that cause people harm. It gives her an opportunity to further clarify her already public views
― octobeard, Thursday, 21 May 2020 01:02 (three years ago) link
Looking at the thread, most of the comments are merely disappointed. A feeling I share.
― octobeard, Thursday, 21 May 2020 01:04 (three years ago) link
Nah.
Anyway, I have no strong feelings about her stuff one way or another but insofar as some of my favourite music of all time was made by bona fide murderers, I don't think being a gullible neo-hippie or whatever is sufficient grounds for socioprofessional erasure.
― pomenitul, Thursday, 21 May 2020 01:10 (three years ago) link
"Oh my feelings are so hurt my illusions of this person are shattered I feel grifted" I literally wish to grift your sorry ass across a gravel road. The woman owns a Buchla and is from the Pacific NW at least make this about agency and class, "the Music Easel suggests wealth", be at least a little more artful with your toxicity. I don't feel outraged so much as insulted
― it’s been one week since you pissed on me (flamboyant goon tie included), Thursday, 21 May 2020 01:11 (three years ago) link
Might also be hitting a personal nerve id guess
― Mordy, Thursday, 21 May 2020 01:15 (three years ago) link
Hard disagree here, I'm a resolute anti-anti-vaxxer, I'm just wondering when people are going to shake their heads and be like "oh wow hassling this person signed to Western Vinyl over a random IG story reblog did not increase my personal wealth or social capital, and the sweet tang of abuse is so fleeting, maybe I should attempt to improve the world in some other way"
― it’s been one week since you pissed on me (flamboyant goon tie included), Thursday, 21 May 2020 01:16 (three years ago) link
i keep reading that tweet and thinking i no longer know the meaning of the word "grift"
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 21 May 2020 01:17 (three years ago) link
agree with cfcf who said in the twitter thread that new age stuff is inherently a grift and it's quite disappointing she's an anti-vaxxer but i don't know why anyone cares that she got paid to premiere her album on some new age grift app
― ufo, Thursday, 21 May 2020 01:19 (three years ago) link
fgti if your point is that both sides should stop fucking posting, i heartily agree
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 21 May 2020 01:20 (three years ago) link
...I mean it's a good album.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 21 May 2020 01:22 (three years ago) link
It is. Her best since Ears imho.
― octobeard, Thursday, 21 May 2020 01:23 (three years ago) link
i mean if you think about it music is kind of a grift, it's just some assholes playing bullshit
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 21 May 2020 01:30 (three years ago) link
Same goes for me, frankly! I don't know why this touched a nerve, I barely know the woman.
― it’s been one week since you pissed on me (flamboyant goon tie included), Thursday, 21 May 2020 01:35 (three years ago) link
if your point is that both sides should stop fucking posting, i heartily agree
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― avellano medio inglés (f. hazel), Thursday, 21 May 2020 02:42 (three years ago) link
This news doesn't surprise me at all, and I wouldn't be surprised if there are plenty of anti-vaxers in the music biz. Music weirdos gonna believe some oddball stuff sometimes. It sucks, but it's pretty predictable.
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Thursday, 21 May 2020 02:45 (three years ago) link
<i>I'm just wondering when people are going to shake their heads and be like "oh wow hassling this person signed to Western Vinyl over a random IG story reblog did not increase my personal wealth or social capital, and the sweet tang of abuse is so fleeting, maybe I should attempt to improve the world in some other way"
― it’s been one week since you pissed on me (flamboyant goon tie included), Wednesday, May 20, 2020 6:16 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink</i>
^^^^^^^^
― winters (josh), Thursday, 21 May 2020 03:25 (three years ago) link
I'm just wondering when people are going to shake their heads and be like "oh wow hassling this person signed to Western Vinyl over a random IG story reblog did not increase my personal wealth or social capital, and the sweet tang of abuse is so fleeting, maybe I should attempt to improve the world in some other way"
― it’s been one week since you pissed on me (flamboyant goon tie included), Wednesday, May 20, 2020 6:16 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
― winters (josh), Wednesday, May 20, 2020 8:25 PM (0 seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink
― winters (josh), Thursday, 21 May 2020 03:26 (three years ago) link
(hope the silliness of my stoned formatting capabilities can offer a break from this particular conversation tbqh)
― winters (josh), Thursday, 21 May 2020 03:30 (three years ago) link
if only people had any control over what IG stories they reblogged
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 21 May 2020 03:39 (three years ago) link
this is killing me
i mean if you think about it music is kind of a grift, it's just some assholes playing bullshit― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Wednesday, May 20, 2020 9:30 PM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Wednesday, May 20, 2020 9:30 PM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
― The Mandymoorian (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 21 May 2020 03:53 (three years ago) link