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timellison, Wednesday, 9 March 2016 05:10 (five years ago) link

rip

mookieproof, Wednesday, 9 March 2016 05:11 (five years ago) link

Not processing. RIP.

Jesperson, I think we're lost (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 9 March 2016 05:15 (five years ago) link

Boo to this.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 9 March 2016 05:24 (five years ago) link

RIP

Gerry & The Pacemakers wouldn't have been the same without that production. Oh, and The Action...and The Beatles.

Now I Know How Joan of Arcadia Felt (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 9 March 2016 05:26 (five years ago) link

jesus, 2016 has been a bad year. RIP.

Bee OK, Wednesday, 9 March 2016 05:27 (five years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIfBNk5UQsY

timellison, Wednesday, 9 March 2016 05:30 (five years ago) link

He basically made Strawberry Fields Forever. RIP https://youtu.be/8UQK-UcRezE

Pentenema Karten, Wednesday, 9 March 2016 05:31 (five years ago) link

Don't forget all those America albums with titles starting with "h."

Jesperson, I think we're lost (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 9 March 2016 05:38 (five years ago) link

His piece "Theme One" was given this rousing version by Van der Graaf Generator. RIP.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGHat7IeNaA

schlep and back trio (anagram), Wednesday, 9 March 2016 06:01 (five years ago) link

Perhaps it's time to play the second side of Yellow Submarine.

Jesperson, I think we're lost (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 9 March 2016 06:07 (five years ago) link

90 years is quite something, but man I am very sad nonetheless

His professorial collaboration with "the boys" is so inspiring. They could have easily been churned through the meatgrinder on another label & someone else's watch, but cool George with his deep wells of musical knowledge & humor & innovation was exactly what they needed

Especially (but not limited to) all that he did for Paul in particular. It's hard to think of Paul as the musician he is without George's tutelage & collaboration

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 9 March 2016 06:25 (five years ago) link

Probably said this before: I don't think there's anyone I'd rather see interviewed than George Martin talking about some problem he solved on a Beatles track. In a very quiet, dignified way, he just radiated joy and a sense of pride in what he accomplished with them.

clemenza, Wednesday, 9 March 2016 06:27 (five years ago) link

Despite the band members insisting otherwise, George Martin was always the Real Fifth Beatle for me. He had so many great little ideas that worked their way onto the records, a way of taking ideas fed to him and turning them into the actual notes played on an ever-widening palette of instruments, sometimes by himself

Aside from the Beatles, the two Jeff Beck jazz-fusion albums from the mid-'70s Blow by Blow and Wired are my favorite Martin productions.

Lee626, Wednesday, 9 March 2016 06:56 (five years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjwnWU6OsaI

piscesx, Wednesday, 9 March 2016 07:34 (five years ago) link

90 years is quite something, but man I am very sad nonetheless

His professorial collaboration with "the boys" is so inspiring. They could have easily been churned through the meatgrinder on another label & someone else's watch, but cool George with his deep wells of musical knowledge & humor & innovation was exactly what they needed

Especially (but not limited to) all that he did for Paul in particular. It's hard to think of Paul as the musician he is without George's tutelage & collaboration

― Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, March 9, 2016 1:25 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yes otm good post

marcos, Wednesday, 9 March 2016 07:46 (five years ago) link

http://www.overgrownpath.com/2011/01/george-martin-finest-album-ive-ever.html

Paul McCandless - heh, not too confusing.. Is there a d/l link on that page? They are always well hidden..

Mark G, Wednesday, 9 March 2016 08:02 (five years ago) link

I don't think there's anyone I'd rather see interviewed than George Martin talking about some problem he solved on a Beatles track

paul talking about george here:

"if you're stuck, if you say to him, 'eh, excuse me, what are we going to do?,' he'll take the problem. he won't kind of just go 'ohhhhawwwgggh.' he knows that's his job: 'well, how's about this?' work it out some way."

fact checking cuz, Wednesday, 9 March 2016 08:54 (five years ago) link

Done with affection, I think...

(Big Train, BBC sketch show, 1998)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIA_NVFnXZ8

Michael Jones, Wednesday, 9 March 2016 10:43 (five years ago) link

... thank you, I was trying to remember which programme this was from!

A Fifth Beatle Dies (Tom D.), Wednesday, 9 March 2016 10:51 (five years ago) link

Kevin Eldon is a big Beatles fan apparently so it probably was meant to be affectionate

nate woolls, Wednesday, 9 March 2016 10:54 (five years ago) link

I had a sense late last year that he'd go this year.

Watch the first couple minutes:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZDWgQHRE78

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 9 March 2016 11:44 (five years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uB4n6rAvHU8

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 9 March 2016 13:58 (five years ago) link

RIP
what a great producer

I just read the monster pt 1 of the Beatles bio by Mark Lewisham and really found the parts about Martin (and Brian Epstein) to be the most interesting

robbie ca$hflo (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 9 March 2016 14:30 (five years ago) link

I'm reading it too and before going to bed last night and checking the political thread I got to the scene in which Martin hears the audition tape.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 9 March 2016 14:36 (five years ago) link

I love that book so much.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 9 March 2016 14:36 (five years ago) link

Finished Placemats book, guess maybe I should finally read this.

Jesperson, I think we're lost (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 9 March 2016 14:49 (five years ago) link

it's so good

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 9 March 2016 15:06 (five years ago) link

They could have easily been churned through the meatgrinder on another label & someone else's watch
yeah i think this is so true -- martin obviously believed in the beatles' talent, as opposed to just believing in the "phenomenon" ... lesser producers would've just wanted to stick with the formula.

tylerw, Wednesday, 9 March 2016 15:43 (five years ago) link

One of the major puzzle pieces that fell into place for me reading the Lewisohn book was learning that one of Martin's heroes was Meade Lux Lewis. I always wondered how a conservatory-trained musician, who professed to knowing little about rock 'n' roll, was able to play such credibly driving piano on "Long Tall Sally" -- he likely heard the connection between Little Richard and Lewis.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 9 March 2016 16:16 (five years ago) link

... lesser producers would've just wanted to stick with the formula.

That's what's so crucial -- he never said "no" or "that can't be done." Sitar? Sure. A song consisting mostly of tape loops? Why not?

After they recorded the two versions of "Strawberry Fields," John wanted to use both. George said, "How?" John said, "I dunno, but I bet you'll figure it out."

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 9 March 2016 16:23 (five years ago) link

The crux of the Lewisohn book to me was how much of the Beatles story was incredible timing/luck. From getting the Hamburg gig to hooking up with Martin (shepherd, steward and skilled technician). So many things had to go right for the Beatles to even happen, and that's taking into account that the book stops more or less with the release of the first album. I'm looking forward to Lewisohn getting beyond capturing the band as is to enabling the band's vision.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 9 March 2016 16:25 (five years ago) link

The crux of the Lewisohn book to me was how much of the Beatles story was incredible timing/luck.

Ian McDonald doesn't hold back in Revolution In The Head on their timing/luck finding Martin:

Left to his own devices, [Epstein] would have been at a loss to develop the group's creativity. Doing that would require someone highly qualified yet unhampered by the hidebound UK studio scene of 1962. By a coincidence so unlikely as to be positively mind-boggling, The Beatles were about to encounter such a man.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 9 March 2016 16:41 (five years ago) link

this was mentioned as an early George Martin production in the Beatles book, Nadia Cattouse - "Long Time Boy", love this song...people should post their fav non-Beatles Martin stuff would be interested

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUBg4nR3Rss

robbie ca$hflo (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 9 March 2016 18:11 (five years ago) link

did he and George ever reconcile?

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 9 March 2016 18:13 (five years ago) link

RIP.

Thanks for your Beatles-related work, AIR Studios and your work with Ultravox.

// 166,000 W A N K E R S // LOVE (Turrican), Wednesday, 9 March 2016 18:20 (five years ago) link

who else has bought this one for a buck hoping it'll be some amazing hidden gem?
http://www.superseventies.com/oaaa/oaaa_americanflyer.jpg

tylerw, Wednesday, 9 March 2016 18:22 (five years ago) link

This is cool...George Martin meets Brian Wilson, and remixes "God Only Knows":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnVyCuc9_P8

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 9 March 2016 18:23 (five years ago) link

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I haven't heard it, but I have heard No Place Left To Run by UFO, which is shit!

// 166,000 W A N K E R S // LOVE (Turrican), Wednesday, 9 March 2016 18:30 (five years ago) link

i love some of these Sellers records, esp the Olivier "Hard Day's Night"

http://www.avclub.com/article/back-day-george-martin-made-some-wild-records-pete-233455

we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 9 March 2016 18:34 (five years ago) link

that "A Hard Day's Night" parody I checked out of the library on some Goon Show comp or other a loooong time ago and I wept from laughter

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 9 March 2016 18:39 (five years ago) link

RIP

bored at work (snoball), Wednesday, 9 March 2016 18:48 (five years ago) link

AHDN even funnier if you've seen Lord Larry's Richard III at least twice

we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 9 March 2016 19:57 (five years ago) link

Yeah, I used to own the American Flyer album. Can't remember a single thing about itzzzzzzz.....

This Seatrain record (first Martin production post-Beatles iirc) was one of the first 45s I ever owned.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=War3BgTQ68Q

Retro novelty punk (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 9 March 2016 20:04 (five years ago) link

american flyer was sold back by me but quick

i love this, god forgive me
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQ6UI_8h-YY

salthigh, Wednesday, 9 March 2016 20:29 (five years ago) link

Perhaps it's time to play the second side of Yellow Submarine.

― Jesperson, I think we're lost (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, March 9, 2016 1:07 AM (14 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yes! i loved those as a kid. all the orchestral stuff he did w the Beatles is still some of my favorite stuff ever.

RIP producer genius

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 9 March 2016 20:39 (five years ago) link

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'Reap The Wild Wind' is fabulous and you have nothing to be embarrassed about.

// 166,000 W A N K E R S // LOVE (Turrican), Wednesday, 9 March 2016 20:42 (five years ago) link

I mentioned it in my own quick obit.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 9 March 2016 20:47 (five years ago) link

great track

Οὖτις, Friday, 11 March 2016 22:54 (five years ago) link

Yeah, Martin had nothing to do with "Revolution 9," and the avant-garde wasn't really his bag -- Paul McCartney liked to play Albert Ayler records around Martin because Martin found them annoying. I'd be surprised if 9 was on Martin's White Album sequence.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 11 March 2016 22:55 (five years ago) link

For that matter, Martin said he "tolerated" Harrison's fascination with Indian music, and wasn't too keen on "Within You Without You" (despite doing an amazing orchestration, and in getting Western-conservatory-trained musicians to play relatively microtonally).

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 11 March 2016 22:58 (five years ago) link

yeah didn't Martin argue to keep 9 off the album? would assume he would leave it off.

Οὖτις, Friday, 11 March 2016 22:59 (five years ago) link

I don't care for WYWY but the way the strings whirl around the Indian charts is amazing.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 11 March 2016 23:00 (five years ago) link

I don't think he particularly liked George's songs except "Something" so I suspect "Long Long Long" and "Piggies" ("I was always raster beastly to George," he said once) would've gotten the ax.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 11 March 2016 23:00 (five years ago) link

Oh god, I completely agree about the orchestration on 'Within You Without You', it's one of the reasons I like that track so much, as well as the tabla fills and the way it slips into 5/4 in the middle section. I don't think it's a particularly great song at its core, but there's plenty of great musical moments happening in the arrangement.

// 166,000 W A N K E R S // LOVE (Turrican), Friday, 11 March 2016 23:24 (five years ago) link

I've often wondered what Martin thought of 'It's All Too Much', because apparently The Beatles started that one without him and he only came in towards the end of that one to oversee overdubs etc. I suspect he didn't rate it much... the final mix on that is fucking bizarre, to say the least!

// 166,000 W A N K E R S // LOVE (Turrican), Friday, 11 March 2016 23:30 (five years ago) link

he would toss out "Savoy Truffle" no doubt. but losing "Long Long Long" would be a big loss. i think it's one of the best songs the Beatles ever recorded.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 11 March 2016 23:40 (five years ago) link

My favourite part of 'Long Long Long' is the spooky ending.

// 166,000 W A N K E R S // LOVE (Turrican), Friday, 11 March 2016 23:47 (five years ago) link

Didn't Martin actually go on record once saying he absolutely loathed 'Only A Northern Song'?

// 166,000 W A N K E R S // LOVE (Turrican), Saturday, 12 March 2016 20:02 (five years ago) link

That's one where I don't know if I'm crazy about the Songtrack mix. Original mono mix seems to be the one on the official Yellow Submarine album now, but the bass is so low.

timellison, Saturday, 12 March 2016 20:33 (five years ago) link

Was there ever really a final mix on that one? The way I heard it, they did the mono at some point during the Pepper sessions, quickly discarded it, and then just as quickly pulled off the shelf and did a stereo mix for YS a year or so later.

Now I Know How Joan of Arcadia Felt (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 12 March 2016 21:11 (five years ago) link

I think there was only fake stereo. There's a bizarre tidbit on the Wikipedia page about the mono version of the album:

"For the monaural version of the album, originally available only in the UK, the engineers combined the two channels from this duophonic mix, rather than using the April 1967 mono mix."

I'd imagine this sounds horrible.

timellison, Saturday, 12 March 2016 21:28 (five years ago) link

'Only A Northern Song' is one of those where I like the production of the track more than the song itself. I like the idea behind the song, but melodically it always sounded a bit too close to 'If I Needed Someone' for me, which was always one of my Rubber Soul highlights.

// 166,000 W A N K E R S // LOVE (Turrican), Saturday, 12 March 2016 21:31 (five years ago) link

George apparently wasn't too enthusiastic about Pepper until he came up with WYWY.

It's kind of sad watching the Anthology...Paul is bursting with pride about Sgt. Pepper; Martin is obviously raving about it; then John goes, "It wasn't a 'concept;' any of those songs could've gone on any album;" Ringo said, "That's where I learned to play chess" (because of how bored he was); and George said his heart was still in India.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 12 March 2016 21:37 (five years ago) link

The Beatles quitting playing live to solely focus on studio work had its good sides and bad sides, really. On one hand, it enabled them to make Sgt. Pepper's, but on the other hand I think it kinda destroyed the power that The Beatles had as a "live" unit. I just listened to some selections from The Beatles and Let It Be followed by Help!, and the performances on Help! easily sounded like they had more excitement to them.

// 166,000 W A N K E R S // LOVE (Turrican), Saturday, 12 March 2016 21:45 (five years ago) link

That's true, but on Help! they were also rushed; they had x number of weeks (or days) to finish an LP, so they couldn't plod through it and/or take tentative stabs at various approaches too much.

And by Let It Be they didn't have anything left to prove, and they all pretty much despised each other (or, more accurately, they all despised Paul).

Stopping playing live definitely messed up their group dynamic, but it had gotten pointless: for a band that had prided themselves on their shit-hot live shows, playing inaudibly to an audience that cheered wildly at everything, regardless of quality, must've been really frustrating. I do wonder what would've happened if they'd started using a monitor system and/or moved up to Marshalls or something, though.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 12 March 2016 22:00 (five years ago) link

There's a richness of beauty to some of the post-touring years music that doesn't exist if they stay in rock band mode.

timellison, Saturday, 12 March 2016 22:01 (five years ago) link

(Ha, I'm kind of contradicting my usual line there, which is that they remained more of a musical ensemble than people sometimes seem to suggest in the later years.)

timellison, Saturday, 12 March 2016 22:02 (five years ago) link

Yeah, and it's telling that the post-touring moments the Beatles rave the most about are those where they're really challenged as a unit ("Happiness Is A Warm Gun") or playing together like in the old days ("Yer Blues," the 3-guitar thing at the end of Abbey Road).

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 12 March 2016 22:18 (five years ago) link

Stopping playing live definitely messed up their group dynamic, but it had gotten pointless: for a band that had prided themselves on their shit-hot live shows, playing inaudibly to an audience that cheered wildly at everything, regardless of quality, must've been really frustrating. I do wonder what would've happened if they'd started using a monitor system and/or moved up to Marshalls or something, though.

― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, March 12, 2016 4:00 PM (18 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

They also quit just as the industry started to come up grips with the sound systems needed for bigger crowds and venues, and the hippie crowds that would have come out in say a theoretical show in like 68 would have behaved way different than a Beatlemania teenybop crowd so I feel like a lot of their purported problems with playing live would have evaporated

robbie ca$hflo (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 12 March 2016 22:22 (five years ago) link

Oh, don't get me wrong, I fully understand the reasons why they quit touring, and I agree that they achieved some great things in the studio that they couldn't have possibly put together unless they'd had the time and focus to do so. I also agree that they never really stopped working as an ensemble, The Beatles in particular features a lot of ensemble playing, but the excitement and adrenaline rush that characterised, say, 'It Won't Be Long' and 'Any Time At All' begins to appear far less frequently, aside from the odd track like 'Helter Skelter' and 'Birthday' ... but I suspect even these would have benefitted far more from being performed by a band that had just come off the road, rather than by a band that hadn't actually played in front of an audience for a couple of years. While being in the studio helped some of their tracks gain a richness they wouldn't normally have had, I think their performances suffered a little from not having an audience to vibe off.

// 166,000 W A N K E R S // LOVE (Turrican), Saturday, 12 March 2016 22:24 (five years ago) link

They also quit just as the industry started to come up grips with the sound systems needed for bigger crowds and venues

They actually played one show with a powerful sound system, and with stage monitors -- the first ever, supposedly -- in Atlanta in '65. The band raved about it, and Epstein offered the local soundman a job doing the Beatles' live sound (which he turned down):

http://www.cbs46.com/story/24667227/beatles-atlanta-65-the-most-memorable-show-of-the-tour

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 12 March 2016 22:37 (five years ago) link

To be fair, though, it wasn't just sound issues that caused 'em to quit touring. By the time they got off the road in 1966, they'd been through enough threats to their safety that I'm guessing that this was the main reason, above all, that they stopped. McCartney seemed to be able to brush it off after a while, Lennon had no issues with performing live as a solo artist but thought the idea of performing with The Beatles again was "daft", and Harrison was undoubtedly the most burned out by it all.

// 166,000 W A N K E R S // LOVE (Turrican), Saturday, 12 March 2016 22:46 (five years ago) link

the excitement and adrenaline rush that characterised, say, 'It Won't Be Long' and 'Any Time At All' begins to appear far less frequently

a lot of this is probably chemical. a lot of those early Beatles songs were written when they were popping speed pills. for a couple of years they had some insane schedules so maybe they kept that up to handle the work load.

While being in the studio helped some of their tracks gain a richness they wouldn't normally have had, I think their performances suffered a little from not having an audience to vibe off.

which, funny enough, is one of the reasons they quit playing live in the first place. they couldn't vibe off the audience bc it was just a wall of screaming. they couldn't even hear themselves!

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 12 March 2016 22:52 (five years ago) link

Yeah, in '66 they played shitty in Japan, got manhandled and robbed in the Philippines, then had to deal with death threats from the Klan in the US. In that context, "I can't really hear myself" is a minor concern. Also, they'd already finished Revolver when they went on tour; going from their most positive studio experience to their most negative live experiences made the choice pretty clear.

xp

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 12 March 2016 22:58 (five years ago) link

x-post:

Yeah, as I said, I'm aware of that I completely understand why they stopped touring, I just think there's an excitement in their work when they were a touring band which started to disappear when they weren't... I think McCartney, in a way, recognised this, which I suspect was one of the reasons he wanted The Beatles to tour again towards the end, but I think Lennon and Harrison were so soured by the experiences of touring in '66 that it put them off entirely.

I think that was the thing about the Get Back project, actually... most of the band didn't actually want to go back!

// 166,000 W A N K E R S // LOVE (Turrican), Saturday, 12 March 2016 23:22 (five years ago) link

*and

// 166,000 W A N K E R S // LOVE (Turrican), Saturday, 12 March 2016 23:23 (five years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXF66qZgSR8

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 13 March 2016 05:46 (five years ago) link

"Blue Jay Way" production is amazing, MMT has always been a magical sounding record to me. This is futuristic music? It is electronic sounding, almost like dark hip hop. Also that ambient mellotron intro which is featured at the end of "Flying" and fades into the BJW organ drone. So killer.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 13 March 2016 05:50 (five years ago) link

Maybe it is proto industrial? The intro feels a little like Throbbing Gristle.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 13 March 2016 05:50 (five years ago) link

When I first started seriously investigating the Beatles discography, I often found myself surprised by how Harrison managed to craft so many pop songs based on Indian classical music and/or drones. 'Blue Jay Way' is a fantastic example of this approach, and I too love the production on it... it's possibly the darkest•sounding psychedelic track the band ever did.

// 166,000 W A N K E R S // LOVE (Turrican), Sunday, 13 March 2016 11:43 (five years ago) link

Also, I'm not much into the US configurations of Beatles albums, but expanding Magical Mystery Tour into a full-length LP with assorted 1967 singles and B-sides on side two was a stroke of genius, IMO. I'm glad they kept it that way when the 1987 reissues happened!

// 166,000 W A N K E R S // LOVE (Turrican), Sunday, 13 March 2016 21:49 (five years ago) link

I've always thought that the Yellow Submarine/MMT/Lady Madonna sessions should have been released as one album. Would have been a nice cohesive mix bridging Pepper and the White album.

1. Magical Mystery Tour
2. Baby You're a Rich Man
3. It's Only a Northern Song
4. Flying
5. Fool on the Hill
6. Blue Jay Way
7. Your Mother Should Know
8. I Am the Walrus

9. Hello Goodbye
10. Hey Bulldog
11. The Inner Light
12. All Together Now
13. Lady Madonna
14. Across the Universe
15. It's All Too Much
16. All You Need is Love

Darin, Sunday, 13 March 2016 23:07 (five years ago) link

The version of 'Across The Universe' on Let It Be is superior to the "wildlife" on Past Masters, but I don't think they ever did a decent recording of it. I think Lennon had a point when he criticised the way that song was treated.

// 166,000 W A N K E R S // LOVE (Turrican), Sunday, 13 March 2016 23:18 (five years ago) link

For me, "Lady Madonna" is like the first definitively post-psychedelic period record, so it doesn't feel like it fits the on MMT or the Yellow Sub soundtrack. All the Yellow Sub songs are '66 or '67 recordings except for "Hey Bulldog," which kind of feels like it could go either way for me - on one of the psychedelic records or on the White Album. "Lady Madonna" feels like a White Album song to me.

timellison, Sunday, 13 March 2016 23:30 (five years ago) link

Yeah, 'Lady Madonna' feels as though it would fit in snugly on The Beatles, without a doubt!

// 166,000 W A N K E R S // LOVE (Turrican), Sunday, 13 March 2016 23:33 (five years ago) link

I've hesitated to jump into all the speculation/Beatles fun stuff in this thread (generally of high quality) just cause, y'know, RIP thread and all. But I'm only human, so: yeah, leave off Lady Madonna/The Inner Light and you actually have a pretty reasonable record there, and closer to a 'period' running time anyway. Heck, leave out All You Need Is Love as a standalone single, and finish with It's All Too Much... very good record IMO.

van damme death warrant (Doctor Casino), Monday, 14 March 2016 00:05 (five years ago) link

"Hey Bulldog" could easily have bumped "Glass Onion" and made its way onto the Beatles too. I always thought "Hey Bulldog deserved better than b-side treatment.

DavidLeeRoth, Monday, 14 March 2016 12:37 (five years ago) link

Yeah, but it was the first time Yoko had seen John at work in the studio with the Beatles, and he got somewhat embarrassed at doing something as silly as that.

Mark G, Monday, 14 March 2016 16:23 (five years ago) link

I hate to be that guy, but Hey Bulldog was recorded three months before Yoko and John became a couple. She definitely wasn't attending Beatle sessions until the white album.

Darin, Monday, 14 March 2016 17:55 (five years ago) link

'Hey Bulldog' is definitely one of my favourites and I agree that it deserved better than just been snuck away on Yellow Submarine. It would have made an excellent single.

// 166,000 W A N K E R S // LOVE (Turrican), Monday, 14 March 2016 18:08 (five years ago) link

five years pass...

Anyone else watched Under the Volcano yet? It looks at George Martin's studio built on a remote Caribbean island in 1979 and is ultimately destroyed by a volcano. Lots of anecdotes provided by The Police, Elton John, Earth, Wind and Fire, Paul McCartney and Duran Duran. Fascinating if you can get past the colonialism.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWf7_eXZ-bo

bookmarkflaglink (Darin), Friday, 3 September 2021 16:45 (two weeks ago) link

this always seemed like the New Jerseyof recording studios to me, wasnt brothers in arms recorded there?

brimstead, Saturday, 4 September 2021 00:13 (two weeks ago) link

gets a shout-out in the trailer! with a costanza-esque "and it didn't take me very long, either" aside.

I Am Fribbulus (Xax) (Doctor Casino), Saturday, 4 September 2021 00:56 (two weeks ago) link

Been watching this this am – have been interrupted a bunch of times and still have a bit to go but it’s definitely enjoyable.

Naive Teen Idol, Monday, 6 September 2021 15:56 (one week ago) link

Agreed. I stopped at the part where Nick Rhodes observes how tropical tranquility + Nick Rhodes are chalk and cheese.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 6 September 2021 18:08 (one week ago) link

Indeed that also describes the color of his skin.

All in all, I really enjoyed it. For all the colonialism stuff, Martin didn’t exactly abandon the island after he closed the studio. According to Wikipedia, it appears he did quite a bit of fundraising in the heads that followed.

Relatedly, I was a bit surprised there was no mention of Chris Blackwell’s Compass Point Studios which Alex Sadkin ran until he died in a car wreck in the late 80’s. Looking at their webpage, it says:

“But in 2010, several unfortunate local incidents occurred at or near to Compass Point Studios,
and both Blackwell and Manning determined that it was unwise to continue operations in The Bahamas.”

Does anyone know what those “unfortunate local incidents” were?

Naive Teen Idol, Thursday, 9 September 2021 05:00 (one week ago) link


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