Homosexuality and Hip-Hop : The Gay Rapper Thread

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it's a good thing that this was pointed out before j0rd made an effusive blog post

dayo, Monday, 30 January 2012 12:34 (twelve years ago) link

Ima Read is fucking incredible, esp. the B. Ames/MikeQ Remix.

But the b-side, "Hey Ladies" is also really great.

Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Monday, 30 January 2012 15:32 (twelve years ago) link

Yes, their famous gay subtext video is "Haru Haru" where the plot is about G-Dragon's girlfriend leaving him for TOP (with a K-drama twist at the end), but the video is shot so it looks like the argument is really between the two rappers. Also they've done a number of fanservice-y Kdrama parody videos where one of the members crossdresses and makes out with TOP (always cast in the lead romantic role). Well, of course 'fanservice' and 'humorous crossdressing' are pretty well known concepts in the Asian idol music world, but some of this stuff is above and beyond the call the duty, you might say. It's a source of artistic inspiration, at any rate - so much more satisfying to listen to a single about a relationship gone wrong when you get both perspectives (see also their latest, 'Tonight').

I didn't know that about eyeliner, though! That explains some things. Still think there are some gender issues in this group, though they are frequently eclipsed by the manic depression issues. But it would take too long to get into it.

hurricane weather (forapper), Monday, 30 January 2012 20:39 (twelve years ago) link

yeah - I had no idea about the subtext between top and gd, but notions of masculinity in east asia are assuredly not the same as those in the west, and from a western point of view, those notions might be interpreted as being 'feminine' or having 'feminine characteristics'

dayo, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 00:18 (twelve years ago) link

katz mention in nme

http://www.nme.com/reviews/various-artists/12669

fauxmarc, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 15:59 (twelve years ago) link

so i just had "read" explained to me and now appreciate that song 1000x more

i love pinfold cricket (gbx), Sunday, 12 February 2012 00:36 (twelve years ago) link

^^essential viewing

⚓ (gr8080), Sunday, 12 February 2012 10:44 (twelve years ago) link

http://citypaper.com/music/now-i-8217-m-here-1.1271727

Anyone have thoughts? I'm checking out the new mixtape now. Soderberg likes him, at least.

Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 20:07 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah, I posted about him earlier. <3 that dude.

lag∞n affiliated (The Reverend), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 20:22 (twelve years ago) link

He's p entertaining on twitter, too.

lag∞n affiliated (The Reverend), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 20:22 (twelve years ago) link

yeah i need to check out the new music. it speaks to my lack of gaydar though that the first time i had a conversation w/ dude like 5 years ago (when he asked me to write a press bio) i had no idea about his orientation and really didn't at all until the rumors started circulating.

CANDY aka JUNK (some dude), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 20:24 (twelve years ago) link

Sorry for missing that, Rev!

I need to do a better job at listening to EVERYTHING...

Also, I was spinning the So So Rev mix and remembered that OMG Michelle are amazing. Did they ever put out anything besides those two Kingdom-produced tracks?

Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 20:46 (twelve years ago) link

Not that I know of, but I only know "You Don't Know Michelle", what's the other one?

lag∞n affiliated (The Reverend), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 20:55 (twelve years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ba00hW4xUJU

lag∞n affiliated (The Reverend), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 21:00 (twelve years ago) link

It's called 'Got Me Open' - it's on their myspace. Found it on Tumblr too, and ripped it from there thanks to Firefox extensions. Check yr gmail.

Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 21:00 (twelve years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5K8rcsez9I

cool, thx xp

lag∞n affiliated (The Reverend), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 21:01 (twelve years ago) link

Or well, check yr gmail in like... 5ish minutes.

Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 21:02 (twelve years ago) link

Was wandering through the archives of www.patentleatherdaddy.com - blog curated by Kingdom, Fatima al-Qadiri, couple of other people - and stumbled on this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzWYVV-GaFg

He choreographed Single Ladies and Freakum Dress, also, I think?

Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Friday, 17 February 2012 16:17 (twelve years ago) link

yeah

fauxmarc, Friday, 17 February 2012 16:29 (twelve years ago) link

https://twitter.com/jessicasuarez/status/170945957867958272

dave cool, Saturday, 18 February 2012 19:11 (twelve years ago) link

haha

also watch any interview w/ rocky and he says "no homo" like 20 times

illuminati girl (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 18 February 2012 19:48 (twelve years ago) link

that big freedia performance is awesome

haha this was pretty terrible tbh

plee help i am lookin for (crüt), Sunday, 19 February 2012 10:53 (twelve years ago) link

maybe I shouldn't talk shit about sissy bounce on the homosexuality and hip-hop thread tho

plee help i am lookin for (crüt), Sunday, 19 February 2012 10:53 (twelve years ago) link

omg the full text of that asap rocky thing

The Reverend, Sunday, 19 February 2012 20:37 (twelve years ago) link

http://vimeo.com/37148523

The Reverend, Wednesday, 22 February 2012 06:50 (twelve years ago) link

never really got into blanco, had seen her around parties in persona and it's a turn off for me (tired of homo events inherently having to revolve around drag) so i haven't really paid much attention to the rap, dig that clip a lot though. mostly just because i love/hate that she managed to reference dren from splice and the doom generation in one take.

fauxmarc, Wednesday, 22 February 2012 19:42 (twelve years ago) link

yeah, i totally share your wariness about drag as cultural cornerstone (but not as an artform), but i don't see what that has to do with her music. i had, for a while been under the impression she was fulltime trans, but i guess not.

in other news (and i'm not going to link to that garbage), apparently at least one half of yo majesty really hates jews.

marissa explains it all (The Reverend), Monday, 27 February 2012 21:34 (twelve years ago) link

lol i've been following max and rizzla on this but don't care to jump in

fauxmarc, Monday, 27 February 2012 21:49 (twelve years ago) link

this song is OLD AS DUST (was on my best of 2008 list iirc lol) but they just made a video for it for some reason:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYOlYKkvRII

also, MISS PRADA >>>>>>>> :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHqUGfQpmcs

Peace (peaceful) (The Brainwasher), Monday, 5 March 2012 06:49 (twelve years ago) link

katz in the guardian
http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/shortcuts/2012/mar/07/rap-urban

sort of lame article "with fashion and music closer than ever" but anyway

fauxmarc, Thursday, 8 March 2012 01:33 (twelve years ago) link

Finally listening to the Ddm Winter and the Tinman's Heart mixtape and 'Fake Girls' interpolates MakeUp by Vanity 6 and it's <3 <3 <3

Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Sunday, 11 March 2012 18:31 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah, that's def my favorite song on the tape

The Reverend, Sunday, 11 March 2012 22:26 (twelve years ago) link

http://soundcloud.com/le1f/mindbody

The Reverend, Monday, 19 March 2012 04:07 (twelve years ago) link

Hmmm, looks like Dark York is finally coming out in April.

The Reverend, Monday, 19 March 2012 04:31 (twelve years ago) link

i don't know who Dark York is but that certainly doesn't sound like the name of a straight rapper

some dude, Monday, 19 March 2012 17:29 (twelve years ago) link

Dark York is Le1f's album.

The Reverend, Monday, 19 March 2012 17:55 (twelve years ago) link

just making a dad joke about the phrase "coming out" bruh

some dude, Monday, 19 March 2012 18:06 (twelve years ago) link

oh, right :)

The Reverend, Monday, 19 March 2012 18:59 (twelve years ago) link

Maino On Rappers: "Some of These Guys Got to be Gay"

some dude, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 12:45 (twelve years ago) link

I <3 Maino

hurricane weather (forapper), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 22:09 (twelve years ago) link

Big article on Mykki, House of Ladosha, Le1f, Zebra Katz, Cakes da Killa, etc. in Pitchfork today: http://pitchfork.com/features/articles/8793-we-invented-swag/

Guffawed at the A$AP Rocky's comment about Ghe20 Goth1k. Ridiculous!

handy ban (lou), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 14:37 (twelve years ago) link

Someone should do an anthology of the yearly "this crop of underground gay rappers defy stereotypes" article that always seems to have a completely different crop of underground gay rappers

cum on feel the cone (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 14:41 (twelve years ago) link

good article; lol he got scurrrrred at gg

fauxmarc, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 17:33 (twelve years ago) link

that was a good read!

i find a lot of these guys' music really interesting but only zebra katz has translated that into an undeniably great song so far.

lex pretend, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 20:05 (twelve years ago) link

have you checked out house of ladosha at all? think my favorites ("hold up wait" and "tuna fish") are only on their myspace page: http://www.myspace.com/houseofladosha/music/songs?filter=featured

handy ban (lou), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 20:28 (twelve years ago) link

yeah i love their BMF refix but the others i heard were again...good ideas not great songs

lex pretend, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 20:32 (twelve years ago) link

that was a good read!

i find a lot of these guys' music really interesting but only zebra katz has translated that into an undeniably great song so far.

― lex pretend, Wednesday, March 21, 2012 1:05 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i agree with this

The Reverend, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 21:04 (twelve years ago) link

did we talk about the new diplo track/video with Nicky Da B?

♆ (gr8080), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 23:02 (twelve years ago) link


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