You dumdums haven't polled the delight cast recording of Hamilton yet; let me help

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What the heck, guys? It's the best album...it's all I've been listening to since October.

Poll Results

OptionVotes
13. "Wait For It" 4
11. "Satisfied" 2
7. "Cabinet Battle #2" 2
15. "Burn" 2
5. "The Schuyler Sisters" 1
3. "Take A Break" 1
18. "Guns and Ships" 1
2. "Aaron Burr, Sir" 1
8. "Washington On Your Side" 1
3. "My Shot" 1
20. "Yorktown (The World Turned Upside Down)" 1
11. "The Adams Administration" 0
10. "I Know Him" 0
9. "One Last Time" 0
6. "Schuyler Defeated" 0
12. "We Know" 0
13. "Hurricane" 0
22. "The World Was Wide Enough" 0
21. "Best of Wives and Best of Women" 0
20. "Your Obedient Servant" 0
19. "Election of 1800" 0
18. "It's Quiet Uptown" 0
17. "Stay Alive (Reprise)" 0
16. "Blow Us All Away" 0
23. "Who Lives, Who Dies, Who Tells Your Story" 0
14. "The Reynolds Pamphlet" 0
5. "The Room Where It Happens" 0
4. "Say No To This" 0
6. "Farmer Refuted" 0
7. "You'll Be Back" 0
8. "Right Hand Man" 0
9. "A Winter's Ball" 0
10. "Helpless" 0
1. "Alexander Hamilton" 0
12. "The Story of Tonight (Reprise)" 0
14. "Stay Alive" 0
15. "Ten Duel Commandments" 0
16. "Meet Me Inside" 0
17. "That Would Be Enough" 0
19. "History Has Its Eyes On You" 0
21. "What Comes Next" 0
22. "Dear Theodosia" 0
23. "Non-Stop" 0
1. "What'd I Miss" 0
2. "Cabinet Battle #1" 0
4. "The Story Of Tonight" 0


no one in particular (Abbott), Sunday, 28 February 2016 21:25 (five years ago) link

Lol Abbs p sure this thread is just going to be you and me

horseshoe, Sunday, 28 February 2016 21:50 (five years ago) link

I can't pick one though

horseshoe, Sunday, 28 February 2016 21:51 (five years ago) link

I voted for this in the ballot poll this year. Would prob say the boring answer: Wait for it.

Frederik B, Sunday, 28 February 2016 21:52 (five years ago) link

Hamilton vs. Pippin, a poll I'm eagerly awaiting.

dlp9001, Sunday, 28 February 2016 21:52 (five years ago) link

I know this is a big deal and everyone loves it and I'll see it here next year and I'm sure it's good, but I heard someone playing this and could have sworn ... it sounded like a Simpsons parody of musicals?

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 28 February 2016 21:59 (five years ago) link

Some parts of it does. I think the thing with the chorus always mentioning years is from The Simpsons?

'Seventeen seventy six. New York City.'
'Seventeen. Se-se-seventeen eighty-nine.'

There's a specific parody that did this, right?

Frederik B, Sunday, 28 February 2016 22:05 (five years ago) link

AT THE MOMENT, I would say it is one of the songs listed below. But I already feel bad about leaving off "Yorktown," "The Reynolds Pamphlet," and "One Last Time"

"My Shot"
"Satisfied"
"Wait For It"
"Guns and Ships"
"Non-Stop"
"Washington On Your Side"
"It's Quiet Uptown"

horseshoe, Monday, 29 February 2016 12:49 (five years ago) link

"Who Lives Who Dies" reduced me to a puddle the other night, though it's probably not the most compelling as a standalone. Tough to argue with "Wait For It."

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Monday, 29 February 2016 19:21 (five years ago) link

I'm sure this would be cool to see, and I like Daveed Diggs from clipping, but I heard a couple songs from this and was like...it still sounds like a musical.

sam jax sax jam (Jordan), Monday, 29 February 2016 21:33 (five years ago) link

it is a musical

horseshoe, Tuesday, 1 March 2016 00:48 (five years ago) link

yeah that's kinda the point

Hey (Extended Mix), Tuesday, 1 March 2016 01:18 (five years ago) link

Hi!!! i love this soundtrack so much all i want to do is a) talk abt it or b) listen to it

My faves:

Helpless/Satisfied
Room Where It Happened
Guns & Ships
You'll Be Back
Burn
It's Quiet Uptown (;_; ;_;)

gaaaahhh all of it tbh

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 4 March 2016 00:47 (five years ago) link

Questlove said their recording process was unusual for cast recordings, apparently it is common for them to be banged out in 1 take & are sort of an afterthought, multiple takes & attention to mixing etc is not normally a thing apparently

i thought that was interesting

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 4 March 2016 00:50 (five years ago) link

Helpless & Satsfied slay me so much tho

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 4 March 2016 00:54 (five years ago) link

"We rendezvous with Rochambeau" ftw.

A nationally known air show announcer/personality (tipsy mothra), Sunday, 13 March 2016 16:26 (five years ago) link

yeah they usually do them I think the Tuesday after opening night (perhaps the Monday), on a night where the show is dark

Neanderthal, Sunday, 13 March 2016 16:47 (five years ago) link

Wait For It is really something

I forget about it but goddamn I love the buildup

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 13 March 2016 23:11 (five years ago) link

I really love the "Who're you/Who're you/Who is this kid/What's he gon do" bit right before My Shot

I lol everytime Lafayette says "You are ze worst, Burr"

and when Burr says about campaigning "Honestly it's kinda draining" hee

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 13 March 2016 23:16 (five years ago) link

in terms of small moments, nothing matches the testiness in Miranda's voice at

he looked at me like I was stupid--I'm not stupid?

i identify with that moment so hard

horseshoe, Monday, 14 March 2016 16:36 (five years ago) link

I do think there's an Act II quality dip from "Schuyler Defeated" to "Reynolds Pamphlet," too much exposition and not enough great songs, plus the stuff w/ the mistress is a drag

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Monday, 14 March 2016 17:20 (five years ago) link

ooh those clipped "im not yr son" & "CALL ME SON ONE MORE TIME" i love

livestream performance from the whitehouse today at 5:30est :D

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 14 March 2016 18:08 (five years ago) link

At this point I can't even pick my favorite song. A lot of them have had their time at the top for me. Right now I'm digging "Washington on Your Side" because Daveed Diggs gets to really go off and it features my favorite couplet: "Let's show these Federalists who they're up against/ Southern Motherfuckin' Democratic-Republicans!"

Blowout Coombes (President Keyes), Monday, 14 March 2016 20:10 (five years ago) link

I do think there's an Act II quality dip from "Schuyler Defeated" to "Reynolds Pamphlet,"

Disagree. Some of my favorite parts in that span. The quality dip is from "We Know" to "Stay Alive (Reprise)" imo

Blowout Coombes (President Keyes), Monday, 14 March 2016 20:16 (five years ago) link

Well, we have some overlap at least. Act I is basically wall-to-wall greatness tho.

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Monday, 14 March 2016 20:30 (five years ago) link

and c'mon, "Burn" does not belong in an accused quality dip section

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Monday, 14 March 2016 20:31 (five years ago) link

I know this is a big deal and everyone loves it and I'll see it here next year and I'm sure it's good, but I heard someone playing this and could have sworn ... it sounded like a Simpsons parody of musicals?

― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, February 28, 2016 4:59 PM (2 weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Pro-tip: all broadway musicals sound like Simpsons parodies of musicals. Just saved you $500.

on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Monday, 14 March 2016 20:32 (five years ago) link

I've begun to really like the stretch Schuyler Defeated->Cabinet Battle II->Washington On Your Side->One Last Time. But after that there's a dip. I don't really like Burn and (sorry) It's Quiet Uptown either.

Frederik B, Monday, 14 March 2016 20:32 (five years ago) link

There are a few structural problems. Like how Angelica gets this show stopping number then dips out of the play for the most part (probably if LMM wasn't sticking closely to actual events Hamilton's affair would have been with her.) And pushing the clash between Hamilton and Adams into a Burr summary.

Blowout Coombes (President Keyes), Monday, 14 March 2016 20:47 (five years ago) link

omg u guys are crazy, Burn is so good

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 14 March 2016 21:21 (five years ago) link

livestream ending up being just the first 2 songs "Hamilton"& "My shot" but it was still v thrilling to see them irl, and in the white house with the obamas bobbing their heads in time in the front row :)

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 14 March 2016 23:07 (five years ago) link

My current fave is "Say No To This" though my all-time is "Satisfied"

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Monday, 14 March 2016 23:12 (five years ago) link

just posted for the laffs as i have avoided everything to do with this show so far

America is a place where the poor, through “sheer force of will”, can rise to prominence, and Hamilton has diversity in it. That means you can feel good about seeing it: no guilt for seeing dead white men in a positive light required. It contains hip-hop, an edgy, up-and-coming genre with only 37 years of mainstream exposure. It only costs $1,200 a ticket if you can stand bad seats.

Kings George I and II of England were barely able to speak English and spent more time dealing with their own failsons than ruling the Empire — but they gave patronage to Handel. Ludwig II of Bavaria was believed to be insane and went into debt to compulsively build castles — but he gave patronage to Wagner. Obama deported more immigrants than any other president and expanded the drone program in order to kill almost 3,500 people — but he gave patronage to a nerdcore musical.

https://medium.com/@lowenaffchen/you-should-be-terrified-that-people-who-enjoy-hamilton-run-our-country-a67f4ad11f2b#.9xod1g8jk

we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Friday, 18 March 2016 18:07 (five years ago) link

God forbid anyone enjoy anything jfc

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 18 March 2016 18:23 (five years ago) link

written equivalent of the phrase "WELL ACTUALLY..."

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 18 March 2016 18:24 (five years ago) link

well i did vomit at your fannish mention of the Obamas nodding so

we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Friday, 18 March 2016 18:25 (five years ago) link

Hamilton was the literally the original big bank capitalist. He would definitely be pro free trade agreements today.

Since the live stream I've been obsessed with My Shot. The last verse is probably the most impressive lyric in the musical, just the way it goes: where I come from some get half as many' for example. And the way it develops from introspection into pure energy with 'I'm past patiently waiting / I'm passionately smashing every expectation'

Frederik B, Friday, 18 March 2016 18:26 (five years ago) link

xpost you vomit when anyone says their name in a sentence, let's be real

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 18 March 2016 18:32 (five years ago) link

hamilton was a pro-manufacturing pro-tariff protectionist, arguing that he would favor free trade today is about as silly as trying to decide how he would vote in this poll

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Friday, 18 March 2016 18:36 (five years ago) link

he would vote for Hurricane imo

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 18 March 2016 18:45 (five years ago) link

Morbs has beliefs, ILX has none

Blowout Coombes (President Keyes), Friday, 18 March 2016 18:52 (five years ago) link

if we stand for nothing what will we fall for?

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 18 March 2016 18:58 (five years ago) link

Manti Te'Os hot g/f

Neanderthal, Friday, 18 March 2016 19:24 (five years ago) link

the Hamilton OF THIS MUSICAL would vote for "Room Where It Happens" bcz it's all about watching Burr squirm

no one in particular (Abbott), Friday, 18 March 2016 23:48 (five years ago) link

say what you want about the oval office performance; i for one thought it was a nice oment to have the Obamas REQUEST omseone come in and sing "Lock up your daughters and horses, of course/It’s hard to have intercourse over four sets of corsets…" in front of some hardscrabble teens
a moment for libertine history

no one in particular (Abbott), Friday, 18 March 2016 23:52 (five years ago) link

I can't believe how hard all of you are sleeping on "Take a Break."

kate78, Saturday, 19 March 2016 05:28 (five years ago) link

it makes me want to go on vacation so bad

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 19 March 2016 05:50 (five years ago) link

i voted for Satisfied in the end

the "i know my sister like i know my own mind" refrain gets me right in the feels, the song is a v succinct sketch of an oldest/middle sister dynamic, while also underlining the power of intellectual attraction ... and i like how it works structurally w/r/t helpless

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 19 March 2016 05:57 (five years ago) link

the only thing I remember is DD singing "Sally be a dear and hand me the letter" and a woman (dancing, as is everyone else in the scene) giving him a letter.

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 20:27 (one year ago) link

1776 had some catchy tunes.

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 20:30 (one year ago) link

It does. I wanna be in it

I hear that sometimes Satan wants to defund police (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 20:41 (one year ago) link

it's about as accurate as The Greatest Showman, which doesn't get anywhere near the same flack (well, no slaves, but PT Barnum was a bit of a prick).

1. Disagree; greatest showman took way more liberties

2. No there were no slaves in TGS but there should have been one - "He began his career as a showman in 1835 when he was 25 with the purchase and exhibition of a blind and almost completely paralyzed slave woman named Joice Heth, whom an acquaintance was trumpeting around Philadelphia as George Washington's former nurse and 161 years old. Slavery was already outlawed in New York, but he exploited a loophole which allowed him to lease her for a year for $1,000, borrowing $500 to complete the sale. Heth died in February 1836, at no more than 80 years old. Barnum had worked her for 10 to 12 hours a day, and he hosted a live autopsy of her body in a New York saloon where spectators paid 50 cents to see the dead woman cut up, as he revealed that she was likely half her purported age."

3. So, more than a prick

zombeekeeper (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 20:51 (one year ago) link

to be honest I want to cancel TGS more because I HATE THE FUCKING SONGS

I hear that sometimes Satan wants to defund police (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 22:03 (one year ago) link

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Do-Hum-Me

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 22:32 (one year ago) link

Do-Hum-Me was the eighteen-year-old daughter of Nan-Nouce-Push-Ee-Toe, a chief of the Sac and Fox Nation* who traveled east in 1843 from their native lands in Iowa to participate in treaty negotiations with the federal government. The occasion resulted in her meeting and marrying Cow-Hick-Kee, a young warrior, who also participated in the sessions.

The delegation later visited New York City, where the presence of Native Americans was met with great excitement and quickly attracted the attention of showman P. T. Barnum. His American Museum was located in lower Manhattan at the corner of Broadway and Ann Street across from St. Paul’s Chapel. Recognizing the potential for increased ticket sales, Barnum persuaded fifteen members of the delegation, including Do-Hum-Me and Cow-Hick-Kee, to perform daily war dances and wedding ceremonies for museum goers. Tragically, Do-Hum-Me, known to New Yorkers as the “Indian Princess,” died five weeks after her wedding date. Without immunity to the diseases brought to America by immigrant Europeans, she succumbed to the fate that ultimately befell millions of indigenous people. Do-Hum-Me died inside Barnum’s Museum. Barnum was to record that her grieving father and young husband cooked food and ritually placed it on the roof of the museum so that Do-Hum-Me’s spirit would not go hungry as long as her Native American brethren remained at the site.


just a guy displaying people as oddities and charging people to watch them grieve.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 22:35 (one year ago) link

yeah PT was appalling, woulda been good to stop that film beyond its sonic crime

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 22:49 (one year ago) link

this soundtrack has been stuck in my head for a week

make it stop

please make it stop

unashamed and trash (Unctious), Monday, 13 July 2020 12:56 (one year ago) link

anGELicAAAAAA, eLIIIzaaAAa

(and peggy)

unashamed and trash (Unctious), Monday, 13 July 2020 13:00 (one year ago) link

Lol my 5 yo has been playing the soundtrack non-stop and yelling, “LADIES!” And “This kid is insane man!”

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Monday, 13 July 2020 13:03 (one year ago) link

this still has a few jams but none of them involve rapping

k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Monday, 13 July 2020 13:21 (one year ago) link

I am listening to this whole thing again and damn, this is a work of art

shout-out to his family (DJP), Friday, 17 July 2020 14:32 (one year ago) link

I love the hip hop references, like the Mobb Deep "I'm only 19 but my mind is older" line

Lady Antibody (Neanderthal), Friday, 17 July 2020 15:11 (one year ago) link

How much money do I have to pay Renee Elise Goldsberry, Phillipa Soo, and Jasmine Cephus-Jones to sing "LOOK AROUND, LOOK AROUND" for me for about 45 minutes?

shout-out to his family (DJP), Friday, 17 July 2020 15:40 (one year ago) link

LMM totally missed the opportunity to have Burr say to Hamilton, "Damn Homie, back in the cabinet you was the man homie. What happened to you?"

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Friday, 17 July 2020 17:17 (one year ago) link

Okay I know this is probably played out by now but it's screamingly funny

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZzDP-vQXao

I have not made it past "The Schuyler Sisters"

shout-out to his family (DJP), Friday, 17 July 2020 18:34 (one year ago) link

Animal as King George is inspired

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Friday, 17 July 2020 18:54 (one year ago) link

The entire casting is incredible

Camilla as Angelica is the funniest fucking thing I've encountered this year

shout-out to his family (DJP), Friday, 17 July 2020 18:55 (one year ago) link

eight months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gGwhSE0nvo

wasdnuos (abanana), Thursday, 1 April 2021 04:31 (nine months ago) link

eight months pass...

My kid just got into Hamilton, as kids will apparently do (it's my first exposure to it). "Helpless" is a jam, I'll say that!

katebishopfan616 (morrisp), Tuesday, 21 December 2021 00:26 (four weeks ago) link

:D yay!

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 21 December 2021 00:55 (four weeks ago) link

two weeks pass...

Easy to make fun of him, but dude is so talented. Hamilton is ace, songs from Moana are strong, and clearly the great songs from Encanto are connecting as pop music in a way since no Disney stuff since ... the '90s?

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 10 January 2022 02:11 (one week ago) link

Don’t forget Vivo, which my daughter has watched / listened to the soundtrack 1,000 times

i woke up alarmed (morrisp), Monday, 10 January 2022 03:13 (one week ago) link

I'm not sure I've seen it, but now that I think of it I think I've heard one of my kids singing one of the songs. "Turn Up the Tempo?" Is that one of them?

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 10 January 2022 13:27 (one week ago) link

My kids are super into Encanto at present; we just had a boisterous breakfast singalong of "Surface Pressure"

nonsensei (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 10 January 2022 13:58 (one week ago) link

absolutely hate the encanto songs, this guy is such a fucking dweeb, the one the swole sister sings makes me writhe with secondhand dork agony.

adam, Monday, 10 January 2022 14:01 (one week ago) link

I think his dweebiness is a positive attribute.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 10 January 2022 14:10 (one week ago) link

and clearly the great songs from Encanto are connecting as pop music in a way since no Disney stuff since ... the '90s?

Hmmm maybe we have differing definitions of Pop but "Let It Go" was massive no?

Daniel_Rf, Monday, 10 January 2022 14:15 (one week ago) link

the swole sister song is good not bad SITO

mark s, Monday, 10 January 2022 14:39 (one week ago) link

According to the wiki, "Let It Go" (for sure cultural touchstone) was indeed a hit, "the first song from a Disney animated musical to reach the top ten of the Billboard Hot 100 since 1995." "Encanto" soundtrack hit number one yesterday, but I guess the "Frozen II" soundtrack did, too, in 2019. Interesting stat stuff here:

https://www.billboard.com/music/chart-beat/encanto-soundtrack-number-one-billboard-200-chart-1235016951/

Including:

Encanto is just the sixth animated film soundtrack to hit No. 1 since the Billboard 200 began regularly publishing on a weekly basis in 1956. Encanto follows Frozen II (one week at No. 1, 2019), Frozen (13 weeks, 2014), Jack Johnson’s Curious George (one, 2006), Pocahontas (one, 1995) and The Lion King (10, 1994-95). (All but Curious George are Disney films.)

But I guess “We Don’t Talk About Bruno” also just topped the top 200 and Spotify.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 10 January 2022 14:44 (one week ago) link

Interestingly, "Dos Oruguitas,” the Spanish-language song from "Encanto," was reportedly the one submitted to the Oscars. If "Encanto" stays strong, I wonder if that will finally get him his EGOT. I mean, "Dos Oruguitas" is really pretty for sure. I just learned that there have been two previous non-English songs to win Best Original Song (and four previous non-English nominations).

Should say I don't usually care about this chart and awards stuff, but I like Lin Manuel.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 10 January 2022 14:50 (one week ago) link

I liked Hamilton well enough, but the more I see of this guy's work since, the less I like him. He definitely seems like a nice guy and I don't begrudge him his success, but seeing In the Heights just revealed how narrow his palette really is. The same song structures, flow and construction over and over again, with different lyrics. I haven't seen Encanto yet, but I definitely prefer the work of Kristen Anderson-Lopez and Robert Lopez (Coco, Frozen) if we are talking contemporary songwriters for animated films.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 10 January 2022 14:59 (one week ago) link

That’s funny, I said the same thing to my wife (“He’s no Kristen Anderson-Lopez…”)

I’m not a big musical theater guy, but I don’t see what there is to hate on about this guy? (granted, I don’t know much about him; though my son read me bits of a LMM biography he took out from the library)

i woke up alarmed (morrisp), Monday, 10 January 2022 15:36 (one week ago) link

Yeah, to be clear, I don't hate him either, he seems to be a genuinely nice guy even if he's a big ol' theater dork. I've just got a big sense of diminishing returns with the more of his stuff I see.

I effectively file him in the same category as Dave Grohl - I wish he'd stop popping up in every damn thing, but he comes across as so damn likable that I can't hate him.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 10 January 2022 15:39 (one week ago) link

I don't know, I kind of get more traditional musical theater vibes from them, by way of Evanescence. Lin, he does seem operate pretty consistently, but I think his stuff is more diverse than people sometimes give it credit for. He's much better than Grohl, who's not even remotely clever about his middle of the roadness.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 10 January 2022 15:43 (one week ago) link

Like, I am not a musical theater guy at all and a lot of the stuff drives me nuts, but Lin's stuff doesn't bother me. Which might explain why it bothers some other people, lol.

I get the feeling with him, because he is so successful and so high profile that people have been trying to instigate a backlash for years - like the folks who consider Hamilton overrated and not nearly as groundbreaking as it was - but as of yet it's just not taking.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 10 January 2022 15:45 (one week ago) link

There is a backlash, mostly from dirtbag left, but it’s a lame and hilarious backlash

Chappies banging dustbin lids together (President Keyes), Monday, 10 January 2022 16:17 (one week ago) link

Hmm, thinking about it a bit, I wonder if LMM's additional abilities as an actor/performer/director/writer (as in the script) give him a leg up that makes up for any (real or perceived) lack of versatility? Whereas Kristen Anderson-Lopez and Robert Lopez's perhaps more conventional Broadway inclinations given them their own set of advantages when it comes to their more limited focus? For example, I could totally see both LMM coming up with successful songs for "Coco" or Kristen Anderson-Lopez and Robert Lopez doing "Moana" or "Encanto." But I don't know if LMM can be Broadway broad and *big* enough for something like "Frozen," and likewise if I was at ground zero for something like "Wicked" I would have called Kristen Anderson-Lopez and Robert Lopez before LNN. But they might ever come up with something personal and idiosyncratic like "Hamilton."

Anyway, I guess LMM and Kristen Anderson-Lopez and Robert Lopez teamed up for some Netflix Schoolhouse Rock sort of thing?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tBPgDBDKnE

It's not that good.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 10 January 2022 16:22 (one week ago) link

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/10/arts/music/encanto-soundtrack-billboard-chart.html

The soundtrack to “Encanto,” the new Disney animated film, has reached No. 1 on the Billboard chart, displacing Adele’s “30” after a six-week run at the top.

The “Encanto” album, with songs by Lin-Manuel Miranda that draw on salsa and hip-hop and are performed on traditional Colombian instruments, came out in November — initially landing at No. 197 — and has had a steady climb to the top. After the film’s streaming release on Disney+ on Christmas Eve, the soundtrack entered Billboard’s Top 10.

One of its numbers, “We Don’t Talk About Bruno,” is currently the most-streamed song on Spotify, beating out a slew of new tracks by the Weeknd. (The Weeknd’s surprise album, “Dawn FM,” released on Friday with just a few days’ notice, is expected to open with huge numbers on next week’s chart.)

The “Encanto” soundtrack, which also features pieces from the film’s score by Germaine Franco, had the equivalent of 72,000 sales in the United States last week, according to MRC Data, Billboard’s tracking arm. That total includes 88 million streams and 11,000 copies sold as a complete package. “Encanto” is the first soundtrack to reach No. 1 on Billboard’s chart since “Frozen 2” in late 2019.

Ooof, 72k in sales is all it takes ...

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 10 January 2022 17:01 (one week ago) link

The consensus in this household seems to be that Encanto isn't a great movie (I haven't sat and watched it, just seen bits in the background) – but that Bruno song is pretty undeniable. I also like the big song the main character sings as she walks around doing magic or whatever ("something something open the dooooooor...")

i woke up alarmed (morrisp), Monday, 10 January 2022 17:17 (one week ago) link

I thought "Encanto" was better the second time. Definitely one of the prettier ones in recent memory, and does a few things to counter Disney cliches. For example, no dead parents, no epic quest, no princess, single location (more or less), um, first lead character with glasses? Doesn't quite stick the landing (imo, for reasons I won't spoil), but it has a nice emotional payoff nonetheless.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 10 January 2022 17:40 (one week ago) link

Cool / good to know (the criticism voiced here was that it's too short or moves too quick, you don't really get to know or care about the characters?)

i woke up alarmed (morrisp), Monday, 10 January 2022 17:50 (one week ago) link

Yeah Encanto's a very enjoyable film.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 10 January 2022 18:09 (one week ago) link

xpost I can see that, at least the first time around. There are 11 or so major characters, but only about 4 get their own songs, and of those the relationship between each other and with Mirabel probably could have been developed a bit more to enhance the payoff at the end. (The rest of the 11 are fun but tend to fly by pretty fast.) Second time around I felt there was more than enough meat to convey the movie's message, though, and perhaps not knowing some characters as well as others may be part of it.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 10 January 2022 18:37 (one week ago) link

no dead parents

dead abuelo though.

peace, man, Monday, 10 January 2022 23:56 (one week ago) link

It happens.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 11 January 2022 03:30 (one week ago) link

MOANA IS GREAT

horseshoe, Tuesday, 11 January 2022 12:58 (one week ago) link

xp: grandpas usually keel over from heart disease or cancer or something, not getting cut down by a death squad. It's still traumatic, although maybe not the same as Nemo's mom getting eaten. Still think it fits into the trope, although more of a generational trauma thing.

peace, man, Tuesday, 11 January 2022 13:20 (one week ago) link

Maybe. But he died many decades before Mirabel was born, so it's not really her (the protagonist's) trauma. Moana, she's got her mom and dad, but grandma dies on her watch and follows her around as a force ghost.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 11 January 2022 13:35 (one week ago) link


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