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starkiller based god (Treeship), Sunday, 10 January 2016 03:36 (three years ago) link

come chill with lonnie liston smith instead, it's better for you

big Mahats (mattresslessness), Sunday, 10 January 2016 03:52 (three years ago) link

ahh yes...excellent.

sunlick databait extremer, Sunday, 10 January 2016 13:05 (three years ago) link

there was a thread where ppl were clowning lj for liking this stuff right

carly rae jetson (thomp), Sunday, 10 January 2016 14:45 (three years ago) link

I like Dialectics.

welltris (crüt), Sunday, 10 January 2016 15:21 (three years ago) link

crüt gyte

sounding like a silly Iain Banks on a track (imago), Sunday, 10 January 2016 15:22 (three years ago) link

I like Ressentiment a lot. It sounds like really claustrophobic black metal, music for the crypt rather than the wilderness under a funeral moon

starkiller based god (Treeship), Sunday, 10 January 2016 15:47 (three years ago) link

The only problem I have with Ship of Theseus is that when I go back to his older bm stuff it sounds so monotonous and grey to me, I always struggled with them tbh. Kind of like I always felt that I SHOULD enjoy BaN, who bore me silly.

ultros ultros-ghali, Sunday, 10 January 2016 16:03 (three years ago) link

I like Ressentiment a lot. It sounds like really all claustrophobic black metal, music for the crypt rather than the wilderness under a funeral moon

― starkiller based god (Treeship), Sunday, 10 January 2016 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

fixed

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 10 January 2016 17:41 (three years ago) link

What about the microtones

starkiller based god (Treeship), Sunday, 10 January 2016 17:54 (three years ago) link

I raised this on some other thread.

why are we talking about this shit again?

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 10 January 2016 18:09 (three years ago) link

Bc the mods approved this new thread for publication

starkiller based god (Treeship), Sunday, 10 January 2016 18:15 (three years ago) link

Suggest ban all mods

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 10 January 2016 18:17 (three years ago) link

so much hate, so much insecurity

sounding like a silly Iain Banks on a track (imago), Sunday, 10 January 2016 18:18 (three years ago) link

That's a good opening line for a bm song

starkiller based god (Treeship), Sunday, 10 January 2016 18:34 (three years ago) link

or board desc

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 10 January 2016 19:03 (three years ago) link

This darts match was shit

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 10 January 2016 19:33 (three years ago) link

^ If you don't the above belongs in this thread think again

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 10 January 2016 19:33 (three years ago) link

Pain And Wrath Are The Slingers

sounding like a silly Iain Banks on a track (imago), Sunday, 10 January 2016 19:39 (three years ago) link

The only problem I have with Ship of Theseus is that when I go back to his older bm stuff it sounds so monotonous and grey to me, I always struggled with them tbh. Kind of like I always felt that I SHOULD enjoy BaN, who bore me silly.

― ultros ultros-ghali, Sunday, January 10, 2016 11:03 AM (3 hours ago)

I get this actually, and Ship is def my favorite thing he's done, but I still gotta give it up for Discontinuities which has two of my favorite metal songs ever (Romanticism, Supreme Fictions) and is ultimately is the album that helped me start to get over my bias against metal that wasn't stoner or space

spiritual hat gaz (Drugs A. Money), Sunday, 10 January 2016 19:40 (three years ago) link

Ultros, have you heard 777: Cosmosophy? Opening track especially. Sounds like no other BaN I've heard; is awesome

sounding like a silly Iain Banks on a track (imago), Sunday, 10 January 2016 23:05 (three years ago) link

& Discontinuities was like being thrown into an ice bath for me too, yeah

sounding like a silly Iain Banks on a track (imago), Sunday, 10 January 2016 23:07 (three years ago) link

that must've been painful

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 10 January 2016 23:10 (three years ago) link

jute gyte is the sauna, it is the ice bath

sounding like a silly Iain Banks on a track (imago), Sunday, 10 January 2016 23:12 (three years ago) link

gotta sell it somehow

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 10 January 2016 23:22 (three years ago) link

yeah this dude that gives his music away for free on bandcamp gotta get that brand up

stupid children forever (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Monday, 11 January 2016 05:19 (three years ago) link

STREET TEAMIN

stupid children forever (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Monday, 11 January 2016 05:23 (three years ago) link

I listened to the first half of Cosmophony last night, I appreciate what the guy does and I'd never call it bad but somehow everything he comes up with fails to make me feel anything. I've been trying for years but nothing ever clicks with me.

Regarding JG I'm not saying his older stuff doesn't have their moments but the last time I tried to listen to Vast Chains it felt more like a chore than anything. Maybe I just wasn't in the right mood.

ultros ultros-ghali, Monday, 11 January 2016 15:08 (three years ago) link

Fair enough.

Vast Chains is amazing, especially that closing track, but it's the greyest and most forbidding of his microtonal records and should only be listened to when in the mood, yes

I suppose I haven't called Ship of Theseus my favourite metal album of all time in this thread yet, but that it is.

sounding like a silly Iain Banks on a track (imago), Monday, 11 January 2016 15:22 (three years ago) link

Vast Chains is the one I've enjoyed the most, actually. I don't know that he's done anything that would make even my top 50 of all time but Vast Chains is so fucking audacious.

stupid children forever (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Monday, 11 January 2016 19:32 (three years ago) link

one month passes...

is there such thing as an instrumental (metal) Jute Gyte album? Vast Chains sound promising, but his vocal style is my least favorite vocal style & doesn't leave much room for enjoyment even when I can appreciate the backing tracks.

small doug yule carnival club (unregistered), Thursday, 18 February 2016 20:54 (three years ago) link

it's a complete one-off and not so much metal but the title track of 'discontinuities' is a microtonal guitar instrumental and you might enjoy it

odysseus (imago), Thursday, 18 February 2016 21:32 (three years ago) link

Not to my knowledge, sorry. imo Ship of Theseus is musically a bit more engaging (more RIFFS) so it might detract from the vocals a bit more. fwiw I'm not the hugest fan of his voice either but I'm not picky when it comes to screams/growls etc

space prophet wogan (ultros ultros-ghali), Thursday, 18 February 2016 21:34 (three years ago) link

I listened to "Discontinuities" a minute ago but it didn't do much for me. it just sounds like he left the tape recorder running as he messed around with microtones as an exercise — it's kind of anonymous and there just isn't anything interesting going on compositionally or stylistically compared to (what little I've heard of) his metal stuff. but maybe I'd change my mind if I heard it within the context of the album. I'll give Ship of Theseus a try, but I have almost no patience for metal growling unless it's buried very deep in the mix.

small doug yule carnival club (unregistered), Thursday, 18 February 2016 22:24 (three years ago) link

There are longer stretches without vocals on Ship of Theseus iirc, and I think his composition did grow more sophisticated (to the point where I don't need the vocals much of the time), but, yeah, extreme metal vocals are part of the package, generally.

Hi! I'm twice-coloured! (Sund4r), Thursday, 18 February 2016 22:27 (three years ago) link

Listening to Vast Chains now and wondering why I was ever down on it

space prophet wogan (ultros ultros-ghali), Wednesday, 2 March 2016 19:42 (three years ago) link

two months pass...

new album Perdurance out on the 6th of June, which is almost Satan Day 6/6/16

And the cry rang out all o'er the town / Good Heavens! Tay is down (imago), Wednesday, 25 May 2016 11:35 (three years ago) link

idk if can be bothered to listen to the four tracks of this that will be added to my EOY votes before elseq1-5 assuming GFOTY doesn't release anything this year

nakhchivan, Saturday, 4 June 2016 01:12 (three years ago) link

based on the first 3 minutes i think you'd like this more than prev works but much obliged as ever

i need to sleep soon but god here we are again

And the cry rang out all o'er the town / Good Heavens! Tay is down (imago), Saturday, 4 June 2016 01:15 (three years ago) link

i mean...damn

And the cry rang out all o'er the town / Good Heavens! Tay is down (imago), Saturday, 4 June 2016 01:19 (three years ago) link

i was all set to snark, but this is great. big leap upward from the "reflective paintings" series in terms of listenability & sonic variety. while still sounding microtonally diseased & horrid, of course.

the world over the crotch. (contenderizer), Saturday, 4 June 2016 03:29 (three years ago) link

Haha "At the Limit of Fertile Land" is phenomenal!

the mood and the melanies (Drugs A. Money), Saturday, 4 June 2016 04:18 (three years ago) link

Laughter is fitting. This is mad...

His best work yet? Has the most 'groove' of any Jute Gyte album.

Hi! I'm twice-coloured! (Sund4r), Saturday, 4 June 2016 15:32 (three years ago) link

I'll wait until I order it

Cosmic Slop, Saturday, 4 June 2016 19:39 (three years ago) link

I'll order it, but first I'll listen to it.

It's obviously amazing and I haven't come close to getting my head around it yet. The opening track alone is a monster of a whole new order. Nobody comes close to this guy at the moment.

And the cry rang out all o'er the town / Good Heavens! Tay is down (imago), Saturday, 4 June 2016 20:13 (three years ago) link

ok this is another level up then

And the cry rang out all o'er the town / Good Heavens! Tay is down (imago), Saturday, 4 June 2016 20:54 (three years ago) link

im going to listen to this once the weather gets shite again

Neptune Bingo (Michael B), Saturday, 4 June 2016 20:57 (three years ago) link

just listened again. "i am in athens and pericles is young" is a hell of a closer.

the world over the crotch. (contenderizer), Saturday, 4 June 2016 22:09 (three years ago) link

Been listening to Ghost Sickness and it's great. Also, which is as odd as how kinda groovy Young Eagle turned out to be, it's mostly just very straightforwardly pretty.

albvivertine, Friday, 8 September 2017 06:54 (one year ago) link

yeah that one is mostly just pretty, sad electro with an excellent cover. dude has range

imago, Friday, 8 September 2017 06:59 (one year ago) link

He does. Eagerly awaiting his "straightforwardly pretty" black metal album now

albvivertine, Friday, 8 September 2017 07:29 (one year ago) link

'isolation' has a very straightforwardly pretty opening track!

imago, Friday, 8 September 2017 07:31 (one year ago) link

seven months pass...

happy new four-hour Jute Gyte ambient album day!

https://jutegyte.bandcamp.com/

Simon H., Tuesday, 1 May 2018 13:54 (one year ago) link

EVERYONE's copying Autechre now haha

imago, Tuesday, 1 May 2018 14:00 (one year ago) link

not that keen on his electronic stuff but out of four hours theres surely something good nestled away in there. fucking hell, this guy is insanely prolific

well bissogled trotters (Michael B), Tuesday, 1 May 2018 14:38 (one year ago) link

Temple of Roon

twp lol

well bissogled trotters (Michael B), Tuesday, 1 May 2018 14:43 (one year ago) link

it does say it was created 2002-2018 - this is clearly an ongoing project that's finally ready (like most of his stuff)

so far it isn't quite as gloriously fucked as Dialectics but it is pleasantly unsettling

imago, Tuesday, 1 May 2018 14:43 (one year ago) link

I've never been into his electronic albums before but I'm actually really digging this five tracks in.

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Tuesday, 1 May 2018 16:35 (one year ago) link

It's fucking amazing is what it is, this. I've never heard a single ambient Jute Gyte track before in my life, didn't know he did this!

Between Autechre's NTS sessions and this: I do not for the life of me know why we deserve such beauty.

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 1 May 2018 22:45 (one year ago) link

I made it to I think the second track before I heard some growling. Are my ears deceiving me? Because I know the dude's background, but I'm really not in the mood for growling these days.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 1 May 2018 22:50 (one year ago) link

I'm hearing little to no growling? Plunged in at the 5th track, 'The cave is empty', and that was me sorted. I did not know this man could deal in mournful bliss as well.

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 1 May 2018 22:57 (one year ago) link

Do you mean "growling" as in extreme metal vocals? Because I don't remember any on the whole album but tbf there were times when I had it on the background while doing other things?

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Tuesday, 1 May 2018 23:25 (one year ago) link

Maybe it was just generally distressed vocals? I'm thinking of the start of "Another Pioneer," sort of Ligeti meets throat singing.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 2 May 2018 01:55 (one year ago) link

I hear layered chopped up and processed voices there but not growling.

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Wednesday, 2 May 2018 02:09 (one year ago) link

OK, moaning, then.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 2 May 2018 02:49 (one year ago) link

for me JG is often kinda like -- idk -- some of those doorstop authors you might have in your library who you know you'll probably enjoy when you get to 'em, but at the same time they're kind of a slog & eat up all yr time so you get to 'em less than you might. I have two albums, have listened to 'em some, but I very seldom say "you know what'd hit the spot right now is some Jute Gyte" - it's like doing critical theory, I enjoy the ride very occasionally. But fuck if this ambient one doesn't sound fantastic

"the cave is empty"

reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 3 May 2018 16:29 (one year ago) link

five months pass...

Oviri now has a vinyl option on Bandcamp.

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Monday, 8 October 2018 14:51 (ten months ago) link

eight months pass...

'birefringence' out july 1st. gird yourselves

imago, Monday, 17 June 2019 13:57 (two months ago) link

Hammershøi represent.

pomenitul, Monday, 17 June 2019 14:01 (two months ago) link

would love to attend an exhibition of the paintings he uses for covers

imago, Monday, 17 June 2019 14:05 (two months ago) link

I'd watch that, imagine if he'd get those all in one museum!

Stoked for the new album. Reading the wiki on 'birefringence' gave me a blank stare for about five minutes straight, I trust the album to make more sense.

Uptown VONC (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 17 June 2019 14:09 (two months ago) link

would it make more sense if i told you birefringence or double refraction is a key concept in pynchon's 'against the day', which i basically made jute gyte read lol

imago, Monday, 17 June 2019 14:10 (two months ago) link

So you're the culprit/philanthropist.

pomenitul, Monday, 17 June 2019 14:11 (two months ago) link

we all need a little more dual-reality in our lives tbh

imago, Monday, 17 June 2019 14:13 (two months ago) link

More of an infinite fractal reality man myself but yeah.

pomenitul, Monday, 17 June 2019 14:14 (two months ago) link

ahaha... see, a Jute Gyte I can handle (unlike many). An Imago-infected Jute Gyte though? Sign me up!

Uptown VONC (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 17 June 2019 14:16 (two months ago) link

announcing an album in advance....he's going corporate on us

Simon H., Monday, 17 June 2019 16:25 (two months ago) link

fifth track of this is some kind of insane slowcore electro trap lullaby

imago, Monday, 1 July 2019 10:09 (one month ago) link

Is this not on bandcamp?

Uptown VONC (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 1 July 2019 12:30 (one month ago) link

spotify, bandcamp will be up any minute now

can't get over The Foam That Flows From The Mouths Of Wild Boars, it's as tt said 'basically a Katie Dey song' but there's Low and whatnot in there too

imago, Monday, 1 July 2019 12:36 (one month ago) link

here https://jutegyte.bandcamp.com/album/birefringence

imago, Monday, 1 July 2019 13:19 (one month ago) link

Thanks!

Uptown VONC (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 1 July 2019 14:29 (one month ago) link

The central portion of "Dissected Grace" is drawn from William Blake's Europe: A Prophecy. This album is additionally indebted to Morag Josephine Grant's Serial Music, Serial Aesthetics; Thomas Pynchon's Against the Day; Carlo Michelstaedter's Persuasion & Rhetoric; Keiji Nishitani's The Self-Overcoming of Nihilism; Walter Benjamin; György Lukács; James Tenney; Robinson Jeffers."

Walter Benjamin!

Thus Spoke Darraghustra (Oor Neechy), Monday, 1 July 2019 14:41 (one month ago) link

The Brian Ferneyhough of metal.

pomenitul, Monday, 1 July 2019 14:49 (one month ago) link

it isn't quite metal or anything else but the 'insane slowcore electro trap lullaby' that is The Foam That Flows From The Mouths Of Wild Boars is more or less the most stunning thing I've heard in a very long time, and I want everyone on ILM to hear it

imago, Wednesday, 3 July 2019 23:10 (one month ago) link

Wasn't sure about the first track but the rest sounded very good.

All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Wednesday, 3 July 2019 23:41 (one month ago) link

the song imago speaks of goes absolutely nowhere

Thus Spoke Darraghustra (Oor Neechy), Thursday, 4 July 2019 00:52 (one month ago) link

or have i got the songs mixed up? the last song is the one i speak of

Thus Spoke Darraghustra (Oor Neechy), Thursday, 4 July 2019 01:21 (one month ago) link

5th track. closer is an ambient classical piece

imago, Thursday, 4 July 2019 05:34 (one month ago) link

My problem with what little I've heard of his music is that it's usually less interesting than that of his avant-garde and classical touchstones, although the cultivated art brut vibe does add something different (and very American) to the equation, bringing to mind someone like Harry Partch. I mentioned Ferneyhough earlier (because he wrote an opera on Walter Benjamin, Shadowtime, and 'Angelus Novus' is a fairly transparent allusion to the 'Theses on the Philosophy of History') and I always wonder why LJ never reps for that kind of notated maximalist stuff.

Anyway, I'm halfway through Birefringence right now and so far it's won me over, including that first track.

pomenitul, Thursday, 4 July 2019 08:35 (one month ago) link

simple answer: ferneyhough et al rarely recorded a definitive version of their works and released it as an object of art. my idiot consumer brain still can't deal with the notion of notated music. too many interpretations, too much responsibility on the performers. this is my failing obviously

i *can* however deal with live recordings (or live performances i attend) of previously-released material, so maybe the mere existence of a definitive version with a release date and a length is enough to validate subsequent reworkings. i also like it when artists cover other artists' songs

what am i on about, sorry

imago, Thursday, 4 July 2019 10:15 (one month ago) link

The good news is there are plenty of composer-supervised, even composer-approved recordings of 20th and 21st century works, although in Ferneyhough's case it raises inextricable paradoxes insofar as his music is all about the tension between reading, listening and playing.

I'd also like to point out that your take (which I share to some degree, as I'm still very much attached to the figure of the auteur – or autrice – regardless of art form) is distinctly un-Benjamin-esque: the aura thus no longer clings to a given performance, having shifted towards the endlessly reproducible recording itself.

pomenitul, Thursday, 4 July 2019 10:38 (one month ago) link

The Brian Ferneyhough of metal.

― pomenitul, Monday, 1 July 2019 bookmarkflaglink

Please don't lol

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 4 July 2019 10:53 (one month ago) link

On account of the Benjamin reference. So I was half-joking.

pomenitul, Thursday, 4 July 2019 10:55 (one month ago) link

Are you still keeping up with new 'new' music?

pomenitul, Thursday, 4 July 2019 10:55 (one month ago) link

Not really, no, a bit sad about it but there's little to no time to invest in it. But I do want to make it to some concerts.

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 4 July 2019 10:58 (one month ago) link

That's too bad. I've all but given up on film for similar reasons so I don't blame you.

pomenitul, Thursday, 4 July 2019 11:01 (one month ago) link


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