― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 31 October 2002 18:43 (twenty-one years ago) link
― JasonD, Thursday, 31 October 2002 18:52 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 31 October 2002 18:54 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 31 October 2002 18:58 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Dave M. (rotten03), Thursday, 31 October 2002 19:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Kris (aqueduct), Thursday, 31 October 2002 19:04 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Thursday, 31 October 2002 19:14 (twenty-one years ago) link
― s magnet, Thursday, 31 October 2002 19:21 (twenty-one years ago) link
Hip-hop incorporating rock:DJ Z-Trip, "Rockstar" (and "Rockstar II")BDP, "Dope Beat" (AC/DC!)RUN-D.M.C., "Rock Box" (and Chris Rock's "Champagne" by extension, heh)Beastie Boys, "Looking Down the Barrel Of A Gun"Public Enemy feat. Anthrax, "Bring the Noise"
Rock incorporating hip-hop:The Clash, "The Magnificent Seven" (even if said rapping is pretty cheesy - but it beats "Rapture")Beck, "Loser"The Beta Band, "Won"Gorillaz, "Clint Eastwood" (which is probably "rock" in a very loose sense anyways, being produced by Dan the Automator and sounding more like reggae than anything)Blondie, "Rapture" (which works better as a disco song anyways)
― Nate Patrin (Nate Patrin), Thursday, 31 October 2002 19:29 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Thursday, 31 October 2002 19:34 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Mitch Lastnamewithheld (mitchlnw), Thursday, 31 October 2002 19:43 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 31 October 2002 19:48 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 31 October 2002 19:52 (twenty-one years ago) link
But there are black performers who can't rap (ahem, Puffy?), but they are still considered rappers. Just because you are bad at something doesn't mean that you can't be classified as doing it (God that's an awful sentence). I mean, Greg Ostertag's a terrible basketball player, but he is a professional basketball player nonetheless.
And why the fuck hasn't anyone mentioned Linkin Park? I mean, they have a designated screamer and a designated rapper. How much more rap-rock can you get?
― Yancey (ystrickler), Thursday, 31 October 2002 20:04 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Thursday, 31 October 2002 20:11 (twenty-one years ago) link
― arch Ibog (arch Ibog), Thursday, 31 October 2002 21:05 (twenty-one years ago) link
Well it could be, but I'm talking about rock bands incorporating hip-hop, technically (and vice-versa, ask "why isn't 'Dope Beat' rock?").
― Nate Patrin (Nate Patrin), Thursday, 31 October 2002 21:36 (twenty-one years ago) link
definitely none of this NU-metal shit in recent memory. i feel like it lacks any of the real power it should have to be worthy.
m.
― msp, Thursday, 31 October 2002 21:37 (twenty-one years ago) link
Can't we just call the whole rap/rock fusion thing a bad idea, and forget all about it?
― Siegbran (eofor), Thursday, 31 October 2002 21:58 (twenty-one years ago) link
how does Campag Velocet's 'To Lose La Trek' fit in? terrible 'rapping' but strangely brilliant at the same time - i feel no shame in loving it - its probably not 'rock' enough tho - only jangly Clashy guitars in more of a skunk-rock style
― blueski, Thursday, 31 October 2002 22:05 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Mike Appelstein (mike a), Thursday, 31 October 2002 22:57 (twenty-one years ago) link
Otherwise my fave is the Kutmaster Kurt remix of Linkin Park's "In The End".
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Friday, 1 November 2002 00:23 (twenty-one years ago) link
There's probably someone else on there too, but I forget.
― James, Friday, 1 November 2002 04:14 (twenty-one years ago) link
2) Mike Ladd - 5000 Miles
3) RatM - Take the Power Back
4) Saul Williams - 1987 or Om Nia Merican
5) RatM - that one really hip-hop sounding one off Evil Empire
― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 1 November 2002 07:23 (twenty-one years ago) link
$$ x-ecutioners f linkin park - its goin down
$$ korn - freak on a leash
$$ ratm - i like all their songs
$$ swizz beatz f metallica and ja rule - the FUCKING RAP METAL APOCALYPSE!!
― ep, Friday, 1 November 2002 08:45 (twenty-one years ago) link
― ep, Friday, 1 November 2002 09:02 (twenty-one years ago) link
i remember the helmet/house of pain collab on the flip to this being pretty ace too...
sxxxx
― stevie (stevie), Friday, 1 November 2002 11:35 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 1 November 2002 15:20 (twenty-one years ago) link
Anyway, as for rap/rock songs...
Mr. Bungle "Squeeze Me Macaroni"Candiria "Without Water", "Voices from the Lexicon"Green Theory "Emotions", "Smear", "Loopy"G-Love and Special Sauce "My Baby's Got Sauce", "Time For Livin'", etcFun Lovin' Criminals - every song they ever did311 - I prefer the Grassroots album, but just about anythingRed Hot Chili Peppers - anything pre-CalifornicationRage Against the Machine - every frickin' song they ever didInfectious Grooves/Suicidal Tendencies - same as RATM24-7 Spyz - dittoBlack Jack Johnson Project - all of 'em except the Hendrix cover
...not to mention the experimental stuff done by folks like Buckethead, Extrakd, DJ Shadow, etc.
...also not to mentiona the hip-hop BANDS with live instrumentation, such as...
SpearheadThe Roots (who I saw cover a Nirvana song recently)Black Eyed PeasPublic Enemy (that's right, they play with a full band these days)Cypress Hill
So much for proving rap/rock doesn't exist, retard. :D
― Nickalicious, Friday, 1 November 2002 19:15 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 1 November 2002 20:02 (twenty-one years ago) link
That band (Black Jack Johnson Band) is straight-up amazing. Not just because it is made up of Mos Def (Blackstar), Bernie Worrell (ex-PFunk and Talking Heads keyboardist), Dr. Know (ex-Bad Brains guitarist), Doug Wimbish (ex-Living Colour bassist), and Will Calhoun (ex-Living Colour drummer)...but they've got a great chemistry between 'em, and write amazing songs.
I'm kinda mad, though, cause they STILL haven't released their album yet. I'll have to make do for now with the videotape I've got of the time they played on Reverb on HBO.
― Nickalicious, Friday, 1 November 2002 20:10 (twenty-one years ago) link
Doesn't necessarily make it all good, though. ;-) Then again keep in mind I come from the point of view that if the members of RATM had never met in the first place, the world would be a much better place to live in.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 1 November 2002 23:57 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Jordan (Jordan), Saturday, 2 November 2002 00:19 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Saturday, 2 November 2002 02:35 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Evan, Saturday, 2 November 2002 05:17 (twenty-one years ago) link
― bnw (bnw), Saturday, 2 November 2002 08:29 (twenty-one years ago) link
― M Matos (M Matos), Saturday, 2 November 2002 09:52 (twenty-one years ago) link
― M Matos (M Matos), Saturday, 2 November 2002 09:53 (twenty-one years ago) link
Haven't heard it, therefore cannot say.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 2 November 2002 14:25 (twenty-one years ago) link
"The Clash, "The Magnificent Seven" (even if said rapping is pretty cheesy - but it beats "Rapture")": Nate u r bonkahs
― mark s (mark s), Saturday, 2 November 2002 14:38 (twenty-one years ago) link
Time Zone - World Destruction
Faith No More - Epic
Faith No More - We Care A Lot
Beastie Boys - Sabotage
RUN-DMC -Aerosmith - Walk This Way
That is all.
― JM, Saturday, 2 November 2002 16:28 (twenty-one years ago) link
"Up the Junction" eats those songs for breakfast and pisses them all on top of the old Frank Sinatra albums that my grandma listens to.
All together now: "1-2 1-2, BOOM she-she BOOM she-she BOOM she BOOM. I beg for some forgiveness / But beggin's not my business. / And so it's my assumption / I'm really up the junction." Awwwwwww yeah... A stone classic no less.
― Evan, Saturday, 2 November 2002 19:08 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Saturday, 2 November 2002 23:33 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Saturday, 2 November 2002 23:35 (twenty-one years ago) link
Edan.
― Moka, Thursday, 6 August 2009 21:50 (fifteen years ago) link
The Roots - Seed 2.0
Does it count?
― Moka, Thursday, 6 August 2009 21:55 (fifteen years ago) link