Suede -- Night Thoughts

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Might as well start a new thread for this. Played a couple of shows already with the film screening, and here's the next single, "Like Kids":

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 1 December 2015 17:06 (four years ago) link

hey great, new music by The London Suede

welltris (crüt), Tuesday, 1 December 2015 17:10 (four years ago) link

I enjoyed that, although it's definitely a less immediate single than the selections taken from Bloodsports, and they seem to have re-used the 'We Are The Pigs' outro idea. Video reminds me of a cross between something that Pulp woulda done in the mid-'90s mixed with mid-'90s Ariston adverts.

Turrican, Tuesday, 1 December 2015 19:02 (four years ago) link

"the smell of chemicals"...

feel like olden days Brett would've specified exactly which chemicals

kinder, Tuesday, 1 December 2015 19:21 (four years ago) link

Nah, olden days Brett would have just used the word "petrol" or "gasoline" instead.

Turrican, Tuesday, 1 December 2015 19:28 (four years ago) link

Night Soil

hunangarage, Tuesday, 1 December 2015 19:30 (four years ago) link

glad they are back, looking forward to hearing this album.

Bee OK, Wednesday, 2 December 2015 02:18 (four years ago) link

Like a lot of their recent stuff, this new song is initially disappointing - just another generic Suede song - but after a few listens very light and likeable.

Eyeball Kicks, Monday, 7 December 2015 16:14 (four years ago) link

Can't help but think of Night Farts

PaulTMA, Monday, 7 December 2015 16:46 (four years ago) link

I'm not familiar enough with single covers etc but dude in the back gives me a real Dog Man Star vibe, is the video supposed to be a trip through old album covers?

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Monday, 7 December 2015 16:57 (four years ago) link

I thought Bloodsports was great but I'm not keen on the songs they've put out from this album at all. Like Kids is really throwaway.

Kitchen Person, Monday, 7 December 2015 22:12 (four years ago) link

two months pass...

OK, I can't hear that one song that goes 'the clatter of her pretty feet' without thinking of Tobias Funke talking about the clatter of his wife's breasts

kinder, Thursday, 18 February 2016 22:46 (four years ago) link

three months pass...

How the hell did they still have a song like I Don't Know How To Reach You left in them? I think they might have just won Britpop, twenty years late

And the cry rang out all o'er the town / Good Heavens! Tay is down (imago), Wednesday, 25 May 2016 18:29 (four years ago) link

Yeah, one of my big highlights of the record, that.

Turrican, Wednesday, 25 May 2016 18:56 (four years ago) link

Been a quiet but strong highlight of the year for me, this.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 25 May 2016 18:57 (four years ago) link

Absolutely! It's been one I've definitely been revisiting a hell of a lot since it came out.

Turrican, Wednesday, 25 May 2016 19:01 (four years ago) link

Yeah, very good album

And the cry rang out all o'er the town / Good Heavens! Tay is down (imago), Wednesday, 25 May 2016 19:12 (four years ago) link

I'd put in nearly on par with the first two right now.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 25 May 2016 20:50 (four years ago) link

if not quite Sci-Fi Lullabies Disc 1

And the cry rang out all o'er the town / Good Heavens! Tay is down (imago), Wednesday, 25 May 2016 20:53 (four years ago) link

Ha, I was just about to say that! For me, the first disc of Sci-Fi Lullabies takes some beating!

Turrican, Wednesday, 25 May 2016 20:54 (four years ago) link

Oh, yeah, forgot that one, but I was thinking of proper albums. But yeah, sure, I'd put it on par with the first three and both (I like both) discs of Sci-Fi.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 25 May 2016 21:32 (four years ago) link

I REALLY like how this record just sounds like Suede. Not Suede in 2016, but like it could have come from their heyday. So many reformed or long-running bands just sound off for some reason, but this is spot on - like not a day has past (not necessarily true for their last album).

Spencer Chow, Wednesday, 25 May 2016 21:35 (four years ago) link

Bloodsports is a good record too, IMO, but I definitely think Night Thoughts is the superior record!

Turrican, Wednesday, 25 May 2016 21:40 (four years ago) link

I like Bloodsports a lot, too, but I'd put it just below the other three (or 4 or 5, however you want count them). Way above the other ones, though, or at least a little above Coming Up (which I haven't listened to for a while).

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 25 May 2016 21:43 (four years ago) link

this was not on Spotify the last time i checked so i have yet to hear it. i think i need to rectify that.

Bee OK, Thursday, 26 May 2016 01:35 (four years ago) link

#26 on current acclaimed albums 2016 list - impressive!

niels, Thursday, 26 May 2016 10:20 (four years ago) link

this is on Spotify. in the US this is listed under The London Suede.

Bee OK, Friday, 27 May 2016 00:40 (four years ago) link

Hey, live stream from Primavera, started about twenty five minutes back

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 2 June 2016 22:26 (four years ago) link

Too late :(

Jim Reeves in the Temple (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 2 June 2016 22:55 (four years ago) link

managed to catch their last song (the beautiful ones obv)

brett's quite the showman for all his 48 y/o man prancing around in an open shirt antics, found myself saying to my gf 'he has a dignity that damon albarn lacks'

Not to mention that Suede have been putting out better music than Blur have been recently! I'm amazed at just how well Suede managed to get their shit together since re-forming - they seem to be enjoying themselves a lot and all of them seem to be in love with being in a band together again and you can really hear it in the music. The Blur album suffered because, if you read between the lines, Damon wasn't really that arsed.

Turrican, Thursday, 2 June 2016 23:23 (four years ago) link

Bloodsports and Night Thoughts have both got me looking forward to what they do next. I'd love it if they carried on in the direction of Night Thoughts and went further down that route.

Strange how things have panned out for the major bands of that era. Suede are making records I thought they didn't have in 'em, Radiohead are still making great records 20 years in. On the other hand, Blur and SFA, who you'd assume would be as creative as ever all these years later, are long past their prime. Manic Street Preachers have settled into nostalgic album-themed tours, Supergrass still potentially had a couple of decent records left in 'em, I don't need to hear a note of anything Noel or Liam Gallagher has done since 1996, and Pulp really really should make another record. If there's a band that I think could come back with something great, it's them.

Turrican, Thursday, 2 June 2016 23:44 (four years ago) link

The Verve should just re-group without Ashcroft, team up with John Leckie, and make an instrumental space-rock LP of the type they used to make before their singers ego ballooned to ridiculously huge proportions.

Turrican, Thursday, 2 June 2016 23:49 (four years ago) link

it's weird. suede crashed and burned maybe worse than blur ever did but the way they came back is...i don't understand how they've done it. it's to the extent where i'm wondering if they weren't always fundamentally the better band

I think that Suede's first three LP's and Sci-Fi Lullabies have aged far better than a lot of what Blur did in their prime. It's tempting to think of what could have been if Brett hadn't got big time into hard drugs, which I think was ultimately the real downfall of the band and had a knock-on effect on everything - the music, the vibe of the band etc.

Turrican, Friday, 3 June 2016 20:10 (four years ago) link

one month passes...

'geese' should not rhyme with 'chase' and I'm still not sure if Brett pulls it off

imago, Friday, 15 July 2016 18:48 (four years ago) link

three months pass...

I Don't Know How To Reach You has sort of been my doomed-world anthem these last few days. It feels like a recently-deceased British culture revived as a timeless lament for a fatally fragmented discourse. And, as above, it's just about the best Britpop song conceivable

imago, Friday, 11 November 2016 12:03 (three years ago) link

five months pass...

Over a year on, and this album is still fucking great.

The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Wednesday, 26 April 2017 21:58 (three years ago) link

I like this fine but I could never get into it the same way I did with Bloodsports.

kitchen person, Wednesday, 26 April 2017 22:12 (three years ago) link

Like the album just fine, but after sitting through two performances featuring that dreadful film, it's hard to shake off the 'sub-Jarman directs Eastenders' mental image

PaulTMA, Thursday, 27 April 2017 10:40 (three years ago) link

I enjoyed it upon release (surprisingly since I never cared about Bloodsport) but somehow, it's associated with dark, gloomy moments so I haven't felt like listening to it since then.
I remember there are very good (if not brilliant) tracks and the whole thing works well.
Nowhere near their first two albums (+ SCFI#1) though.
I might give it another try.

I'm also surprised I didn't participate in this thread initially !

AlXTC from Paris, Thursday, 27 April 2017 10:56 (three years ago) link

No "proper" studio album they've ever made touches the first disc of Sci-Fi Lullabies!

The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Thursday, 27 April 2017 17:20 (three years ago) link

as recently established,the debut does

imago, Thursday, 27 April 2017 18:13 (three years ago) link

Not even the debut does, IMO.

The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Thursday, 27 April 2017 18:26 (three years ago) link


well, at the risk of repeating myself once too often, track 5 of this album has imo a claim to be their best song and everyone needs to go back and hear it a few times until they agree

imago, Thursday, 27 April 2017 18:30 (three years ago) link

Loved Bloodsports but kicking off with Editors/'Real Life'-era Simple Minds stinker 'Barriers' makes it a 9 track album for me

PaulTMA, Friday, 28 April 2017 13:14 (three years ago) link

Nah, 'Barriers' is great, as is all of Bloodsports ... I would have had zero complaints if they'd put Bloodsports or Night Thoughts out in the late '90s. I'm really glad they reformed.

The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Friday, 28 April 2017 13:31 (three years ago) link

five months pass...

Fuck, this album is still so good.

more Allegro-like (Turrican), Saturday, 14 October 2017 22:38 (two years ago) link

Agreed. In America, it is (as always? ) like being in on a secret.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 14 October 2017 23:00 (two years ago) link

one year passes...

Bloodsports and Night Thoughts have both got me looking forward to what they do next. I'd love it if they carried on in the direction of Night Thoughts and went further down that route.

― Turrican, Thursday, June 2, 2016 11:44 PM (three years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Ha, looks like I got my wish!

Although, I'm revisiting Night Thoughts after mostly reaching for The Blue Hour whenever I feel like listening to Suede, and I have to say that I still think this is the best of the three records they've released since they got back together, and I love the other two a lot. As far as reforming and putting out new music that's up there with their very best material goes, this band have really shown everyone how it's done.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Tuesday, 11 June 2019 16:03 (one year ago) link

I think The Blue Hour is the better record, slightly, but I Don't Know How To Reach You is still their best post-reformation song. Really heartening how good they've gotten again

imago, Tuesday, 11 June 2019 16:14 (one year ago) link

Brett's been saying during press for The Blue Hour that he thinks that that record will be the most far out the reformed Suede will go, which suggests that a Bloodsports type of record will be next. I won't have a problem with that if the songs are good, though!

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Tuesday, 11 June 2019 16:19 (one year ago) link

four months pass...

For some reason I'm in a Suede mood atm (maybe the autumn) and I've been revisiting/rediscovering some of their stuff.
As posted above, I liked this one initially but hadn't really dug deeper until now and... I reaaally like it !
It's very consistent, rich, catchy, with more depth than almost anything they've done post BB.
Actually, I think it's their best post BB album (which may not say much since I never really loved Coming Up, although I recongnize it's efficient and catchy, HM is a trainwreck, ANM is nice, never got into Bloodsports).
I've also listened to the Blue Hour (no thread for that one ?) which is also good and has a nice atmosphere but lacks in the songs department.

AlXTC from Paris, Thursday, 7 November 2019 10:45 (eight months ago) link

since you're in the mood, did you check out the alternate takes/mixes from head music being released? here's a good one:

corrs unplugged, Thursday, 7 November 2019 10:49 (eight months ago) link

I love this album.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 7 November 2019 12:51 (eight months ago) link

Ah thanks but as I mentioned on the other Suede thread, I have tried again but HM is really not my thing !

AlXTC from Paris, Thursday, 7 November 2019 14:10 (eight months ago) link

I thought that was New Morning you didn't like? nobody does :P

The "Can't Get Enough" mix from 1998 sounds more like a Coming Up track to me

corrs unplugged, Thursday, 7 November 2019 14:17 (eight months ago) link

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