Battle of the LA Session Musos: the Wrecking Crew vs. the LA Mafia

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Both groups are kind of amorphous (and I'm not even certain there's an agreed upon nomenclature for the latter) but I assume everyone knows what I'm referring to here: Hal Blaine, Tommy Tedesco, Carol Kaye, Earl Palmer, Steve Douglas etc. vs. Danny Kortchmar, Jeff Porcaro, Rick Derringer, Larry Carlton, Sneaky Pete Kleinow etc.

60s vs. 70s basically, although interestingly there is a little overlap with a few people (Jim Keltner springs to mind, Leon Russell too maybe?)

Poll Results

OptionVotes
The Wrecking Crew 12
The LA Mafia 6


Οὖτις, Thursday, 17 September 2015 16:36 (six years ago) link

the latter group seems less well-defined as a "group", even though these are guys that played together and consistently backed related artists - Steely Dan, the Eagles, Linda Ronstadt etc.

Οὖτις, Thursday, 17 September 2015 16:41 (six years ago) link

wait am I wrong about the Eagles there? did they not use session guys at all?

Οὖτις, Thursday, 17 September 2015 16:43 (six years ago) link

since i watched all 27 hours of that Eagles documentary you'd think I could answer that but I can't

Ma$e-en-scène (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 17 September 2015 16:46 (six years ago) link

The Mellow Mafia, surely?

how's life, Thursday, 17 September 2015 16:50 (six years ago) link

It annoyed me a little that the Wrecking Crew documentary kind of made it sound like the decline of the Wrecking Crew was the end of the studio musician era, failing to mention that anyone else came along after them.

on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Thursday, 17 September 2015 16:52 (six years ago) link

yeah i mean and past the LA Mafia it's not like huge 80s pop stars like Madonna or Tina Turner or Michael Jackson didn't use studio pros

Ma$e-en-scène (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 17 September 2015 16:57 (six years ago) link

I think the Eagles were considered session musicians themselves for providing backing vocals/guitars on on Zevon's albums, for example.

how's life, Thursday, 17 September 2015 16:58 (six years ago) link

I think the doc was too soft and tribute-y to admit that an aging Hal Blaine wasn't the guy to play the heavier and/or funkier grooves of the 1970s

on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Thursday, 17 September 2015 16:59 (six years ago) link

struggling to think of anything the Mellow Mafia (much better name there, yes duh - and actually coined by Kortchmar it appears?) did that is as iconic as Be My Baby or God Only Knows but surely there's something

Οὖτις, Thursday, 17 September 2015 17:03 (six years ago) link

shit really wanna restart this with the Mellow Mafia in the title now

Οὖτις, Thursday, 17 September 2015 17:04 (six years ago) link

Were all of those guys really considered part of the "Mellow Mafia" though? I thought that was a narrower group.

on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Thursday, 17 September 2015 17:07 (six years ago) link

i'm going with the david axelrod choice of course.

mark e, Thursday, 17 September 2015 17:08 (six years ago) link

Jeff Porcaro did the Rosanna beat, but that's such a fucking terrible song and the beat owes like 75% to the Purdie Shuffle anyway.

on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Thursday, 17 September 2015 17:09 (six years ago) link

I can edit the title but not the poll options.

And yeah, I think the MM proper was dudes like Kortchmar and Sklar and them, but there's some sort of overlap with the band-swapping between Fleetwood Mac, The Everlys, Jackson Browne, Zevon...

how's life, Thursday, 17 September 2015 17:09 (six years ago) link

were the L.A. Express guys considered part of the Mellow Mafia?

Ma$e-en-scène (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 17 September 2015 17:11 (six years ago) link

Zevon totally used the Mellow Mafia. Was he ever backed by the Eagles? Maybe you're thinking of Randy Newman? Anyway, what was that great Zevon deathbed quote re: foregoing a funeral? "I just don’t want to have to spend my last days wondering whether Henley will show up.”

as iconic as Be My Baby or God Only Knows but surely there's something

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTQbiNvZqaY

Just kidding. Mellow Mafia was much hackier, less personality, but that was partly the era. Wrecking Crew seemed to have more creative leeway. Wasn't "Tequila" by the Champs just them goofing off?

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 17 September 2015 17:12 (six years ago) link

I didn't think there was a lot of overlap there between LA Express and the Mellow Mafia - apart from maybe Larry Carlton? And maybe Joe Sample, idk about his track record

Οὖτις, Thursday, 17 September 2015 17:13 (six years ago) link

Huh: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Section_(band)

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 17 September 2015 17:13 (six years ago) link

mellow mafia was basically just Danny Kortchmar, Craig Doerge, Leland Sklar, and Russ Kunkel, right? that's what wiki tells me, with a little bit of david lindley and waddy wachtel sprinkled in there.

tylerw, Thursday, 17 September 2015 17:14 (six years ago) link

xp!

tylerw, Thursday, 17 September 2015 17:14 (six years ago) link

Zevon absolutely had Don and Glenn and Joe Walsh on some of his records.

how's life, Thursday, 17 September 2015 17:14 (six years ago) link

Singing, though, right? I'll have to look it up ...

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 17 September 2015 17:15 (six years ago) link

Ha, iTunes just shot me a Zevon album on shuffle!

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 17 September 2015 17:15 (six years ago) link

Yeah, Don and Glenn and sometimes Joe all over those albums, but mostly as guests, not forming the core (session) band of the usual suspects.

Steve Lukather and Larry Carlton ... they were top session cats but not Mellow Mafia, no?

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 17 September 2015 17:18 (six years ago) link

struggling to think of anything the Mellow Mafia (much better name there, yes duh - and actually coined by Kortchmar it appears?) did that is as iconic as Be My Baby or God Only Knows but surely there's something

I wanna say "Running On Empty," maybe?

I might like you better if we Yelped together (Phil D.), Thursday, 17 September 2015 17:19 (six years ago) link

but mostly as guests,

Yeah, that's what I mean. They're obviously "guest stars!"

how's life, Thursday, 17 September 2015 17:22 (six years ago) link

Yeah, I thought you meant as session guys, a la backing Ronstadt.

xpost Hmm. Waddy co-wrote both "Edge of Seventeen" and "Werewolves of London" ...

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 17 September 2015 17:24 (six years ago) link

one of the differences - which maybe makes this more difficult than I anticipated - seems to be that the LA Mafia guys didn't play as often as a full unit. Instead, they were often brought in as ringers or on certain tracks to augment/back up bands/artists that already functioned as instrumentalists. So instead of a situation with the Wrecking Crew where they literally played everything on a given track, except for the vocals, with the LA Mafia they might get used more piecemeal (I suppose there are exceptions to this like Linda Ronstadt and idk Carly Simon or something)

Οὖτις, Thursday, 17 September 2015 17:26 (six years ago) link

when i think of wrecking crew i think of a lot of early 60s dance songs and pop shite which isnt that good. when i think of la mafia i think of am gold which is more my speed but also became terrible. i pick the latter bcuz of lee sklar's beard.

chaki (kurt schwitterz), Thursday, 17 September 2015 17:28 (six years ago) link

It annoyed me a little that the Wrecking Crew documentary kind of made it sound like the decline of the Wrecking Crew was the end of the studio musician era, failing to mention that anyone else came along after them.

― on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Thursday, September 17, 2015 12:52 PM (33 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I forget who it was, it might've been Blaine, but one of the Wrecking Crew musicians did say something in the doc like, "Well, we replaced the older guys, and then we got replaced by younger guys."

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 17 September 2015 17:28 (six years ago) link

that doc was shitty as fuck

chaki (kurt schwitterz), Thursday, 17 September 2015 17:29 (six years ago) link

yeah I couldn't finish it, I knew most of that shit already anyway

Οὖτις, Thursday, 17 September 2015 17:40 (six years ago) link

yeah, i watched half of it the other day and thought it was awful as well. but in general i'm not a fan of feel-good documentaries.

1996 ball boy (Karl Malone), Thursday, 17 September 2015 17:44 (six years ago) link

Rubble Kings was p feelgood, you guys should watch that

Οὖτις, Thursday, 17 September 2015 17:46 (six years ago) link

I would have liked a doc on Carol Kaye alone, because she is a character.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q15LqTowvhA

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 17 September 2015 17:50 (six years ago) link

carol is apparently very against the doc and its makers. she basically says the "wrecking crew" didn't really exist and they all hated each other. but she seems like a kook too, so who knows.

tylerw, Thursday, 17 September 2015 17:53 (six years ago) link

She's made so many nutball claims over the years it's hard to keep them straight -- the most famous one being that she, and not James Jamerson, played on all the classic Motown hits.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 17 September 2015 18:00 (six years ago) link

yeah like steve gadd saying he played on the beatles early stuff ... maybe you do so many sessions you end up just thinking you played on all of them.

tylerw, Thursday, 17 September 2015 18:03 (six years ago) link

carol is against EVERYTHING. she even lashed out against the woman that played her in love & mercy lol. i suggest following her on fb she lets out some amazing insane rants. here's her thoughts on the doc:

https://facebook.com/permalink.php?id=168440386566810&story_fbid=281253788618802

chaki (kurt schwitterz), Thursday, 17 September 2015 18:04 (six years ago) link

that doc was shitty as fuck

― chaki (kurt schwitterz), Thursday, September 17, 2015 12:29 PM (37 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah I couldn't finish it, I knew most of that shit already anyway

― Οὖτις, Thursday, September 17, 2015 12:40 PM (26 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah, i watched half of it the other day and thought it was awful as well. but in general i'm not a fan of feel-good documentaries.

― 1996 ball boy (Karl Malone), Thursday, September 17, 2015 12:44 PM (22 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yeah, I was pretty let down by it. It was so hodgepodge and thoughtless, and I generally hate that common style of music docs now where it's just a bunch of fast-cut hyperbolic quotes with little structure.

on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Thursday, 17 September 2015 18:08 (six years ago) link

yeah like steve gadd saying he played on the beatles early stuff

Ha, yeah, that was Bernard Purdie. He actually did overdub some tracks onto Hamburg-era recordings for a quickie Tony Sheridan/Beatles release on Atlantic, which he seems to have conflated with playing on all the early singles.

Their resumes are already so amazing that padding them with made-up stuff is kind of baffling.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 17 September 2015 18:08 (six years ago) link

whoah @ carol rants

Οὖτις, Thursday, 17 September 2015 18:09 (six years ago) link

Steve Gadd thinks he played on all of the Purdie stuff.

on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Thursday, 17 September 2015 18:09 (six years ago) link

Hal Blaine's self-promotion with his stupid "wrecking crew" monicker

Invite her to ilxor, imo.

how's life, Thursday, 17 September 2015 18:10 (six years ago) link

my eyebrows did go up at the scene w Blaine, Kaye and some of the others where they were talking about how she was just "one of the guys" in the same breath as saying "if there were sexual harrassment suits back then she would be millionaire"

Οὖτις, Thursday, 17 September 2015 18:11 (six years ago) link

xxp lol haha, yeah got those mixed up. but yr right, it's crazy to be the actual drummer who played on like a million clssics and still be like: "fuck you, i'm the drummer for the beatles!"

tylerw, Thursday, 17 September 2015 18:12 (six years ago) link

"Ringo doesn't even know what a fucking aeolian cadence even is!"

Οὖτις, Thursday, 17 September 2015 18:15 (six years ago) link

my eyebrows did go up at the scene w Blaine, Kaye and some of the others where they were talking about how she was just "one of the guys" in the same breath as saying "if there were sexual harrassment suits back then she would be millionaire"

― Οὖτις, Thursday, September 17, 2015 1:11 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Similarly the weird tension btw Plas Johnson and I think Tedesco on getting credit for the work, that was almost a storyline that could have gone somewhere

on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Thursday, 17 September 2015 18:17 (six years ago) link

He has completely slandered me, changing his story why I "don't like his film" with all his showings, and lying about a supposedly funny but demeaning incident in the film about me, which NEVER took place, as well as using US to raise money and saying it takes "millions" to license recordings (not true - where is the money going while he burns it in expensive-taste spendings on limousines, and parties etc.? the non-profit status doesn't mean Denny is not getting the money at all) and soon the other musicians found out like I did, and are angry also - they all know now it's a scam too, that we were ALL USED as a backdrop for Tommy and Hal Blaine....imo, this is a continuation of the lowlife and limited jealousy viewpoints of Tommy Tedesco and also of Hal Blaine who Denny calls his "dad" (he said he never really knew his dad Tommy) -- this is the Hal Blaine-Tommy Tedesco story not about us at all and is totally skewered.

those carol kaye rants are insane! did she watch the same movie i did? she was all over it! and it wasn't slanderous toward her at all. and i didn't notice any leaning toward hal blaine. i guess i only watched about 3/5th of it, maybe the last section was all about blaine or something? wtf

1996 ball boy (Karl Malone), Thursday, 17 September 2015 18:28 (six years ago) link

summary : avoid the revisionism and just enjoy the grooves.

mark e, Thursday, 17 September 2015 18:54 (six years ago) link

Yeah, I didn't initially notice that the review resulted in 17 pages of discussion.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 17 September 2015 18:55 (six years ago) link

a little bit of david lindley and waddy wachtel sprinkled in there.

― tylerw, Thursday, September 17, 2015 12:14 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I wish there was a solo album called A Soupçon of Watchell so I could post it in the i got my own album to do thread

Ma$e-en-scène (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 17 September 2015 19:03 (six years ago) link

lol seems like he should have a solo album just called WAD. think of the cover art potential.

tylerw, Thursday, 17 September 2015 19:10 (six years ago) link

i like carol's solo album fwiw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pk2qea3ReY

chaki (kurt schwitterz), Thursday, 17 September 2015 19:17 (six years ago) link

Waddy Watchell - Shootin' My Wad (cover is him holding a Strat like a rifle)

Ma$e-en-scène (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 17 September 2015 19:18 (six years ago) link

James Taylor's discography seems really dominated by these guys

Οὖτις, Thursday, 17 September 2015 19:23 (six years ago) link

Waddy Watchell - Shootin' My Wad (cover is him holding a Strat like a rifle)
it is a crime that this album doesn't exist

tylerw, Thursday, 17 September 2015 19:29 (six years ago) link

I could watch this all day:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOWdp1sOxvA

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 17 September 2015 19:40 (six years ago) link

Given his past legal issues, it might be ill-advised.

xp

how's life, Thursday, 17 September 2015 19:41 (six years ago) link

If we're going by discographies, Wrecking Crew gets the nod easy - a session band is only as good as the music it's given, or the producer/arranger that directs it. Still, I'd certainly choose the mellow mafia's a-team if I were making my own record - the latter actually honed their chops on rock and funk and soul. Most of the Wrecking Crew guys honed their chops on big-band jazz, and the difference in feel is pretty stark - you can hear why so many of them were confined to Carpenters records and TV show themes after James Brown transformed the sound of the rhythm section forever.

Futuristic Bow Wow (thewufs), Thursday, 17 September 2015 19:41 (six years ago) link

Interesting that Glen Campbell is the only hotshot among them that made it out of the studio and as a solo acti.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 17 September 2015 19:47 (six years ago) link

Nilsson?

Οὖτις, Thursday, 17 September 2015 19:51 (six years ago) link

dunno if he counts really

Οὖτις, Thursday, 17 September 2015 19:51 (six years ago) link

leon russelll for sure

tylerw, Thursday, 17 September 2015 19:53 (six years ago) link

yeah that was gonna be my other one but I wasn't sure how huge of a star he really was (not glenn campbell level I would think?)

Οὖτις, Thursday, 17 September 2015 20:00 (six years ago) link

Dr. John is sometimes mentioned as a member of the Wrecking Crew, too, but I'm not sure what sessions he actually played on. He doesn't play on any Beach Boys stuff that I'm aware of, for instance.

Futuristic Bow Wow (thewufs), Thursday, 17 September 2015 20:05 (six years ago) link

are you thinking of Leon Russell?

Ma$e-en-scène (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 17 September 2015 20:07 (six years ago) link

i get those two hoodoo voodoo beardo weirdos confused sometimes

Ma$e-en-scène (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 17 September 2015 20:07 (six years ago) link

Dr. John def did LA session work with the Wrecking Crew

Οὖτις, Thursday, 17 September 2015 20:08 (six years ago) link

he talks about it in "Under a Hoodoo Moon" although iirc details were scant on particular songs/sessions - primarily R&B stuff I would imagine

Οὖτις, Thursday, 17 September 2015 20:09 (six years ago) link

feels like i have a better handle on the ~sound~ of the LA Mafia as opposed to the Wrecking Crew. I would guess that the Wrecking Crew were on a greater quantity of classic records though. Or at least had the better good/crap ratio.

brimstead, Thursday, 17 September 2015 20:10 (six years ago) link

Songfacts: I want to ask you about your time as a session musician. You played on some incredible recordings. Are there any that stand out in your mind as favorite experiences?

Dr. John: I remember Aretha [Franklin], some of her sessions. And doing some of Dolly Parton's sessions and doing some different people that was always interesting to do. And some of the sessions with Ray Charles, with different people that I like, anyway. But I always liked doing stuff with Marvin Gaye and Joe Tex, but I didn't do any records with them. I worked on the road with them, and it was a lot of fun.

Songfacts: Were there some sessions where you felt like you were at the wrong place at the wrong time, like, 'What am I doing here?'

Dr. John: That was tons of sessions. That wasn't some. When I got to California, Phil Spector had a real reputation for doing his 'walls with sound.' I just looked at it like, 'Walls with sound?' It's just padding the payroll.

Songfacts: Were you on some of those Phil Spector recordings?

Dr. John: Yeah. Lots of them. I used to be with this band, they call them a name and I didn't even know they did [Mac might be referring to "The Wrecking Crew," which Carol Kaye tells us they were never known as]. I was in another planet then.

Οὖτις, Thursday, 17 September 2015 20:11 (six years ago) link

dr john is on some sonny & cher records, think that's kinda the backstory to how gris gris got made.
lol at "walls with sound"

tylerw, Thursday, 17 September 2015 20:12 (six years ago) link

feels like i have a better handle on the ~sound~ of the LA Mafia as opposed to the Wrecking Crew. I would guess that the Wrecking Crew were on a greater quantity of classic records though. Or at least had the better good/crap ratio.

― brimstead, Thursday, September 17, 2015 4:10 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yeah, the Wrecking Crew didn't have a particularly distinctive/identifiable sound (though a handful of its musicians did, at times), which was the point.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 17 September 2015 20:13 (six years ago) link

Recommended. Had it a few months and listening to it right now

banned on ixlor (Jon not Jon), Friday, 18 September 2015 16:35 (six years ago) link

think that's kinda the backstory to how gris gris got made.

right - wasn't Gris Gris recorded in LA? I want to say it was done during downtime between those sonny and cher sessions but I don't have his bio to hand

Οὖτις, Friday, 18 September 2015 16:37 (six years ago) link

xpost Nothing from Nesmith's "The Wichita Train Whistle Sings"?

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 18 September 2015 16:58 (six years ago) link

xp - yeah, from the liners:
In fact Gris-Gris was recorded surreptitiously, but not in some New Orleans house of sin. It was laid down in the famed Gold Star Studios in Los Angeles, where Phil Spector had cut many of his classics. It might have never come to pass at all had Dr. John and his co-conspirators not managed to wrangle some free studio time that had been originally earmarked for Sonny & Cher sessions.

tylerw, Friday, 18 September 2015 17:05 (six years ago) link

kinda explains the nusto reverb on that record

Οὖτις, Friday, 18 September 2015 17:08 (six years ago) link

nutso even

Οὖτις, Friday, 18 September 2015 17:08 (six years ago) link

yeah! makes sense, but it's gotta be one of the weirdest records to ever be recorded there.

tylerw, Friday, 18 September 2015 17:09 (six years ago) link

It's worth noting that, just like Dr. John, the most prominent players on that record were New Orleans natives who'd relocated to L.A. for studio work.

Futuristic Bow Wow (thewufs), Friday, 18 September 2015 21:24 (six years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Thursday, 24 September 2015 00:01 (five years ago) link

me in high school / early 20s would have voted Wrecking Crew easy but somewhere in my mid-twenties I really developed a taste for that slick LA sound...something about how these dudes sound like they really wanna showboat but always (usually) rein it in just enough

tremendous crime wave and killing wave (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Thursday, 24 September 2015 02:52 (five years ago) link

which crew will win?????

Οὖτις, Thursday, 24 September 2015 23:13 (five years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Friday, 25 September 2015 00:01 (five years ago) link

xp I think that's the mark of a quality session pro; the ability to find that balance. I said before that the sound of the wrecking crew was hard to identify.. Thinking about it, I don't think I could necessarily distinguish the mafia from their 70s sessioneer peers (although I suspect they wrote the book w/r/t that sound).

I had another totally brilliant thing to say but I lost it

brimstead, Friday, 25 September 2015 00:27 (five years ago) link

three years pass...

don't think I'd ever seen this before - in-studio footage of Lee Hazlewood recording with the Wrecking Crew including James Burton and Hal Blaine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDW2K4zxkXw

Οὖτις, Monday, 5 August 2019 16:05 (two years ago) link

two years pass...

mellow mafia was basically just Danny Kortchmar, Craig Doerge, Leland Sklar, and Russ Kunkel, right? that's what wiki tells me, with a little bit of david lindley and waddy wachtel sprinkled in there.

Wait, a couple of these guys were in This is Spinal Tap?

Gwar ina Babyon (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 5 September 2021 03:11 (one week ago) link

Not sure about the others, but Russ Kunkel played on “(Listen To The) Flower People” and was the drummer in that scene.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 5 September 2021 12:09 (one week ago) link

Where do Graydon, hey, and dacosta fit in ?

calstars, Sunday, 5 September 2021 12:51 (one week ago) link

Not sure about the others, but Russ Kunkel played on “(Listen To The) Flower People” and was the drummer in that scene.

Thanks! And I see that Danny Kortchmar played their original bass player, Ronnie Pudding, and can be seen in the video for “Gimme Some Money.” Thanks that’s all for that bunch.

Gwar ina Babyon (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 5 September 2021 14:50 (one week ago) link

There's a great scene in the Hired Gun doc where Graydon and one of the Toto guys breaks down Graydon's guitar solo for Steely Dan's "Peg". My big takeaway was that one of the guys (the Toto guy, I think) copped to being so anally repressive that they couldn't take a shit without first removing all their clothes.

henry s, Sunday, 5 September 2021 14:52 (one week ago) link

That was Graydon, iirc, with Lukather. And I think the story was about them whipping up a hit for ... George Benson? Which is super funny, having Lukather, one of the most talented guitarists, playing piano for Graydon, one of the most talented guitarists, writing a song for Benson, one of the most talented guitarists.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 5 September 2021 15:14 (one week ago) link

Kortchmar & Co. AKA The Section:
https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/the-section-knights-of-soft-rock-233728/
Fave thing I remember from this: Carole King's junkie caveman hubbie (def post-Goffin) punching out DK,
who had just come off stage and gotten too much applause or sump'n.

Also-- much more recently, they had their own record & tour:
https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/immediate-family-session-veterans-cruel-twist-1012555/

dow, Wednesday, 8 September 2021 16:40 (one week ago) link

Oh yeah, and they got back with Carole and James---I wrote this preview when they played Columbus OH, in 2010:
Carole King & James Taylor
Carole King & James Taylor performed at L.A.'s formidably hip
Troubadour club in 1969, when veteran songwriter King as was new to
the spotlight as Taylor. They returned in 2007 with the Section, the
backing band that helped define 70s soft rock. This warmly adept
concert, documented on
Live At The Troubadour, inspired Tayor & King's
current tour with the Section and Cleveland's Arnold McCuller, whose
voice has accompanied Taylor's for thirty years.
05/30 @ The Schottenstein Center, 555 Arena Dr.
7:30 p.m.

dow, Wednesday, 8 September 2021 16:51 (one week ago) link

Trying to remember the name of the unreleased project some of these guys did with Billy Cowsill.

What Does Blecch Mean to Me? (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 8 September 2021 17:29 (one week ago) link


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