reggie don't take this the wrong way but it seems like all of your posts consist of you name-dropping completely random bands with no further explanation.
― rushomancy, Friday, 27 November 2015 12:51 (eight years ago) link
i hear affinities among the names being dropped. in disagreement with tuesday's (false binary) complaint "either it is instrumental, or it has really bad vocals" i pointed out that a lot of prog is being made by europeans whose english isn't native, like the danish band Mew and the italian band Ainur. names -- yorke, timony, o'rourke -- were dropped as counterexamples of native english speakers who have recorded excellent prog and whose vocals don't suck. i brought up Baroness, Ghost, and Goat as examples of bands who like Baron are making a kind of proggy neo-classic rock; Diagonal's name was dropped because two of the Baron guys used to be in Diagonal (a more trad prog band). i mentioned the Cardiacs (spazz prog) and Dälek (prog hop) sort of to affectionately mess with louis (sorry louis), because i've noticed he likes both. i mentioned Battles because i appreciated xelab's suggestion to listen to Ahleuchatistas (as i had fastnbulbous's suggestion to check out Baron) and the song "power with" on their latest album sounds exactly like Battles, for the first few minutes at least. moving along, mention was made of Steamhammer because i hear an affinity between how extreme they were for their time and how extreme Orthrelm is for ours, same as i do between Magma and Opeth, in a way that qualifies dominique's smart attempt to come to terms with 1.0 / 1.5 / 2.0 / 2.5 / 3.0. i suppose GOBLIN would have made for a better affinity with Opeth, since there's a song called "Goblin" on the recent Opeth album in direct homage, but dominique brought up Magma so i went with that. i also hear an affinity between Peter Hammill and Sufjan Stevens as extremely ambitious prog / orch pop dudes from different decades, so that's why they came up. Comus, Family, Barclay James Harvest, the Strawbs, Spires That in the Sunset Rise, Akron/Family, and Circulus are all bands that in some way shape or form play an acid prog folk that can be celebrated for how out it is (or derided for its ren faire overtones, depending on the ear of the listener). i hope that this guide to my recent posts helps! again i think it's interesting how resistant people are to discussing prog and how the stigmas associated it with foster suspicion. compare for instance the discussion in the tompkins square thread, where no one would ever complain that everyone sounds like john fahey and robbie basho. it's almost impossible to imagine a similar congeniality here. i'll even blame myself, take the fall for wanting the discussion to stay as wide-ranging and inclusive (rather than exclusive) of reference as possible, if that means there can be more posts like fastnbulbous's, xelab's, dominique's, and 誤訳侮辱's that mention bands i've never heard that i would like to check out, rather than the endless loop of the past however many decades of how horrible or at least dated all prog* is
*except the prog "i" like
― reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 27 November 2015 13:52 (eight years ago) link
I'm totally glad you liked that Ahleuchatistas album reggie, the math rock tag will probably put a lot of people off but no doubt they are a fearsome band.
― xelab, Friday, 27 November 2015 21:17 (eight years ago) link
late shout out to Robert Adam Gilmour for linking the José Luis Fernández Ledesma tracks earlier. I checked out the Nirgal Vallis album because I've read about it in passing and it's really great, very much on the prettier side of the genre, almost as if there's a big Popol Vuh influence in there somewhere. I definitely recommend it.
According to Discogs the first half of the album is actually from 1985. Shame nobody was paying attention.
― frogbs, Monday, 30 November 2015 22:47 (eight years ago) link
anyway my take on the whole 1.0/2.0/3.0 thing is that it has to do with the era and not necessarily the type of music. like I would consider a band like Wobbler to be "Prog 3.0" even though they probably only use instruments made before 1973. though Dominique's breakdown is very interesting. I would argue that stuff like Max Tundra or Dan Deacon fits in the "3.0" tier, I mean Max Tundra at least is clearly aware of all those 2.0 bands and in some sense emulates them a little.
for me 1.5 would be stuff like Starcastle, Kansas, or even Rush, 2.0 is Neo, 3.0 is everything 90's and beyond. really reductive but hey. maybe you could argue there's a 4.0 going on with bands like Battles. I have no idea.
― frogbs, Monday, 30 November 2015 22:52 (eight years ago) link
Cool. I had sorta forgotten about Ledesma after putting him on my shopping list.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, 1 December 2015 00:46 (eight years ago) link
I had thought the romantic cover art to Deluge Grander - August In The Urals was ill fitting but actually there is a lot of lushness coming through on further listens. Love the watery flowing piano.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 27 December 2015 13:22 (eight years ago) link
I just started listening to Haken - generally I stay away from things tagged "progressive metal" but I hear a lot of Mr Bungle in these guys, they're all over the place. In a pretty cool way that is.
― frogbs, Thursday, 17 March 2016 13:28 (eight years ago) link
http://teamrock.com/news/2016-03-17/jon-anderson-roine-stolt-join-forces-on-invention-of-knowledge
― reggie (qualmsley), Saturday, 19 March 2016 20:30 (eight years ago) link
new EXPLOSIONS IN THE SKY might interest groovers & shakers, as well as the new TIME IS A MOUNTAIN ~
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kPxhwjOMNE
― reggie (qualmsley), Sunday, 20 March 2016 12:40 (eight years ago) link
Time is a Mountain was suggested to me by Spotify, but aren't they more jazz than prog? Great great stuff
― robbie ca$hflo (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 20 March 2016 12:56 (eight years ago) link
i'd say they play a pretty jazzy prog, somewhere between THE SOFT MACHINE and KING CRIMSON. i'm a big fan of dude's wiggly keybs. with all its sci fi sound effects and spacy meanderings, "sepian" also kinda sounds like one of the improvs from one of the ecent VAN DER GRAAF GENERATOR albums
― reggie (qualmsley), Sunday, 20 March 2016 13:01 (eight years ago) link
Yeah I spose it's such a fine line, I guess the review of it I found after hearing it was on a jazz site so I kinda filed it there in my head
― robbie ca$hflo (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 20 March 2016 13:36 (eight years ago) link
a fusion, as it were
― reggie (qualmsley), Sunday, 20 March 2016 14:04 (eight years ago) link
this drummer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=238&v=htZLjRqOu5I
― reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 6 April 2016 17:02 (eight years ago) link
anybody heard this new italian group "the winstons" (no relation to "amen brother")? trio making new music in the style of robert wyatt era soft machine. good!
― diana krallice (rushomancy), Monday, 11 April 2016 16:46 (eight years ago) link
i will check em out
my own city's Hardcore Crayons are like a good post 90s underground rock type of prog
https://hardcorecrayons.bandcamp.com/
― rockpalast '82 (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 11 April 2016 18:59 (eight years ago) link
some relative newbies working the masters
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPdoWp-PHFU
― reggie (qualmsley), Monday, 11 April 2016 23:44 (eight years ago) link
Hardcore Crayons are pretty good. I bought their CD.
I think these dudes from Louisville are pretty cool.
https://ohlm.bandcamp.com/
― earlnash, Tuesday, 12 April 2016 01:32 (eight years ago) link
I don't know if this is the right thread, but the latest Three Trapped Tigers album is fantastic. It's on Superball so might be appropriate. They're an IDM-influenced mathrock three piece but it's basically prog.
The title track:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMr5ZWPBEhM&ab_channel=superballmusictv
― ultros ultros-ghali, Tuesday, 12 April 2016 21:10 (eight years ago) link
when i saw them live with liturgy they were a bit dull but it might work much better on record
― And the cry rang out all o'er the town / Good Heavens! Tay is down (imago), Tuesday, 12 April 2016 21:12 (eight years ago) link
jerry!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkVyzD-IBPs
― reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 13 April 2016 04:18 (eight years ago) link
Okay, that cover of Terrapin Station is excellent. Hoping this might inspire Daniel Rossen to further explore his prog tendencies.
― doug watson, Wednesday, 13 April 2016 17:55 (eight years ago) link
it at least coincides with progressive tendencies, rallying for bernie the other day
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZQP4xG6Txc
― reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 21 April 2016 16:12 (eight years ago) link
rufus is bringing it ~
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccP6mI1GMS4
― reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 22 April 2016 18:21 (eight years ago) link
might hit too close to home for too many ~
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNBfo4IIoG0
― reggie (qualmsley), Sunday, 24 April 2016 20:24 (eight years ago) link
it is too bad that no new good prog rock has been recorded since punk made it obsolete (cost ineffective) ~
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g05yCAF-qgc
― reggie (qualmsley), Sunday, 24 April 2016 20:53 (eight years ago) link
I don't know if this is really prog v.3.0 since it's a follow on to their last album from 1978 but Argentinian legends Bubu released an EP not long ago from out of nowhere:
https://bubuprog.bandcamp.com/releases
― ultros ultros-ghali, Tuesday, 3 May 2016 22:05 (eight years ago) link
saying that it's a completely different lineup of musicians with the same composer. In any case it's really good.
― ultros ultros-ghali, Tuesday, 3 May 2016 22:16 (eight years ago) link
Anyone listen to German band Dark Suns? Their upcoming album Everchild (June 3) seems very promising, continuing their turn from prog metal to psych prog with some jazzy bits along the lines of perhaps Motorpsycho.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLWbQHa4UZ4
― Fastnbulbous, Thursday, 5 May 2016 13:22 (seven years ago) link
Listening to Haken - this is unexpectedly nice and weird. I really like their whole early computers aesthetic too.
― It certainly is punk of the Church of England to think that way (tangenttangent), Monday, 16 May 2016 11:23 (seven years ago) link
Aaah the massive track in the middle is amazing!
― It certainly is punk of the Church of England to think that way (tangenttangent), Monday, 16 May 2016 11:47 (seven years ago) link
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 27 December 2015 13:22 (5 months ago)
Love the first two tracks of this. The first is a monster and the second has these really lovely idyllic ethereal parts. I actually think just these first two would have made a better album than the 5 that stand. The remaining three all have good stuff in them but they get decreasingly interesting. The third is really quite good most of the time though.
How about their other albums?
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Thursday, 16 June 2016 23:13 (seven years ago) link
I think it's kind of set up that way - I don't have an issue with the last two tracks ("The Solitude of Miranda" is especially good) but they do feel like bonus tracks in a way.
The Form of the Good is pretty great though it's maybe tougher to get into. It's entirely instrumental (outside of some faint backing vocals) and really dense at times. "The Tree Factory" is pretty cool, kinda Zeuhl-ish, though it goes through a number of cool movements (one definitely sounds Zappa-inspired). The key track is the 20-minute "Aggrandizement" which is totally insane - not like any prog epic I've ever heard, it's just one steadily rising instrumental part that keeps piling on and on and on. It's the sort of thing you have to listen to at ear-bleeding volume.
― frogbs, Friday, 17 June 2016 15:02 (seven years ago) link
The last two tracks really dampened my enthusiasm for the album.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 17 June 2016 16:42 (seven years ago) link
The Mercury Tree are pretty good - new album is kind of lovely. They're like a weirded-out occasionally-microtonal Yank take on Thumpermonkey. Discovered by snooping on ultros' RYM profile, which I'm sure is acceptable behaviour
― imago, Thursday, 18 August 2016 17:13 (seven years ago) link
Hey stay out of my stuff, you
Glad you liked it anyway, I probably should have brought it up here but I forget these things. Here it is if anyone else is interested:
https://themercurytree.bandcamp.com/album/permutations
― ultros ultros-ghali, Thursday, 18 August 2016 18:54 (seven years ago) link
The Quietus and ultros' rym page are p much the only two music sites I read in 2016 (apart from the obvious, of course)
― Drugs A. Money, Saturday, 20 August 2016 00:20 (seven years ago) link
new Deluge Grander is up and running. headfirst I go!
― imago, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 13:10 (six years ago) link
Cool.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 13:11 (six years ago) link
I'm going to listen to this only cuz one of them pm'd me and I said I would... the samples seemed decent enough.
Also this may be of interest, it's modern chamber music that's barely prog but it kind of sounds like Univers Zero and it's on AltRock Productions. And it's really quite good.
https://altrockproductions.bandcamp.com/album/night-en-face
― ultros ultros-ghali, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 14:51 (six years ago) link
it's...........ok. like, there are good moments. i'll definitely listen to it again. really though (and i know frogbs will come in and yell at me for thinking this) the whole Deluge Grander project existed to make the first track on their first album, and everything since hasn't quite matched that half-hour slab of brilliance
will listen to this though thanks!
― imago, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 15:01 (six years ago) link
me and my 50 socks all FP'd you for this, see you in a month asshole
― frogbs, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 15:56 (six years ago) link
i guess 'aggrandizement' is quite good as well. they should just release albums with two 20+ minute tracks on them
― imago, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 16:00 (six years ago) link
seriously though I can understand that. I think DG's music has gotten more difficult on each album, like it's kind of steered from a fairly recognizable Zeuhl-prog hybrid to something more resembling classical music. that 20-minute track on Form of the Good still sounds like nothing I've heard, it's like he took the massive instrumental finale of a traditional suite and made that the epic. pretty cool. Heliotains completely passed me by the first couple times I listened to it - could not remember a single thing about it until I really sat down and concentrated, after which I realized it's as brilliant as the others, just harder to grasp. I've only heard some samples from the new one (it's not on Bandcamp yet) but it feels like it's kind of the same.
― frogbs, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 16:06 (six years ago) link
Been listening to the Birds And Buildings debut, it's good but it really does just sound like Deluge Grander, I know it only has two members from DG but I think maybe they'd be better off just keeping the DG name and changing the members when they want to be the "other band".
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 30 March 2018 18:47 (six years ago) link
Cheer-Accident/Polvo vibes + Bob Drake cameo
https://starperiodstar.bandcamp.com/album/daylight-spending-time
― obnoxious pun (ultros ultros-ghali), Thursday, 26 April 2018 16:43 (six years ago) link
cool!
cheer-accident themselves have a new one soon, featuring a couple of former gorilla museum employees (among others)
― imago, Thursday, 26 April 2018 17:02 (six years ago) link
this sounds p cool though!
― imago, Thursday, 26 April 2018 17:04 (six years ago) link
whoa the Star Period Star is really good
― imago, Thursday, 26 April 2018 17:26 (six years ago) link