Apple Music vs Spotify

let me know what you think in a few months

no way I'm going over till they up the match limit to 100k songs tho.

I'm digging Apple Music so far. Wish it had a standalone desktop client like Spotify's though.

isnt that what iTunes is tho?

itunes sucks

isnt that what iTunes is tho?

It's Apple Music + a million other things (podcasts, ios apps, a file library, etc.). The user experience is much worse than using the Apple Music app itself.

True

Apple Music on an iPhone is a seamless joy to use. But iTunes takes soooooooo long to load on my computer, it's a headache. Spotify was slow, too, though, so it's an easy decision. Sticking with Apple Music as the free trial ends.

my spotify playlists will still exist if I cut back from paid to unpaid, right?

yes

Apple Music on an iPhone is a seamless joy to use.

are we using the same apple music because mine literally steps out of my phone and punches me in the face

AA, you should start an "Apple Music Is Out To Get Me" blog

Somehow this pile of dog feces has gotten worse with 9.0. I have to *continually* check show "only offline music" whenever I make a change to my library. And then there are the times when it just stops responding. And then there are the times when I try download an album that is on pre-order with available singles and just...nothing happens...

Ya'll using windows? Aside from an occasional hiccup streaming tracks it's been pretty stable for while now for me on mac.
I don't think anyone can save incomplete/unreleased albums, just the individual singles as they're released.

so happy to ditch this piece of shit

i'd pay like $2 a month for the "For You" though, maybe

Just tried to cancel Spotify and got a 500 Internal Server Error. Conspiracy.

Worked the second time. See you never, Spotify.

apple music's cancel function worked flawlessly for me

Anyone know when Apple is upping itunes Match to 100,000 songs? Still 25,000 according to this page: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204146

article on cnet:

Why I ditched Apple Music for Spotify
http://www.cnet.com/news/apple-music-vs-spotify/

We need glenn macintosh to come on this thread to defend Apple Music.

Yeah. Bring it on, alternate-universe me.

her 'short playlists' complaint is a personal taste issue. if you want longer playlists, download more playlists ffs.

her problem with being introduced to her favourite artists is otm though. it's like the service really wants us to know it's a bit average at curation.

community, eh, it's coming. nobody just erects a community that works on day one. they'll get there. feels like a weak criticism tbh.

Does Apple music have artist curated playlists like Spotify? It's the best thing

Like Chelsea Wolfe will have a playlist "what I've been listening to this month" or something

pretty sure that's what the artist-curated radio shows on Beats 1 are supposed to be - each of those radio shows' tracklistings (like St Vincent's, or Drake's) is in effect its own playlist, with "add" buttons next to each song

apple music is slanted towards apple hardware though? if so, for community purposes (ilm playlists) spotify seems a better choice?

oh for sure! you can't even share playlists with others on apple music afaik

saying "don't worry, the community aspects will come" is pretty weak imo - this ain't rehearsal

by that i mean it's not just a matter of going off and ~doing~ a community. it makes sense to get a feel for how people will use a service before trying to cultivate something like that, especially if you're apple and your previous attempts have been sort of hilarious.

iovine (?) indicated in a recent interview that they're going to build the social-type features over time rather than driving headlong into it.

and tbf if they're going to get one thing right it should be the playing music part

I've gone for Spotify in the end. I'd happily pay a few quid a month for the 'For You' playlists, but everything else is a mess. Another big factor is the ongoing non-appearance of the Android app. Is that any closer to reality?

I'm amazed they're even bothering with an Android app. Surely the whole point is to drive sales of iPhones?

itunes store on android without apple music doesn't make any sense if you're betting that the future of music is streaming.

I'm keeping both for the moment - the extravagance of it!

Don't purchase much recorded music any more- do go to shows and occasionally buy CDs directly from the artist, so I am keeping both as well for now.

lol Luna.

I'm skinto this year so needed to make that break - even a tenner a month is going to BURN. My loyalty is to Spotify, so that's where the cash is going. For now.

Possibly a deal breaker for Apple Music - if you cancel or let your paid membership lapse, then " If you lapse on your membership, you have a limited time before you would lose access to your music." This is unlike spotify where if you stop paying, you still have your playlists etc.

Extortion! Fuck apple music!

Just got a clarification that it's 90 days after cancellation.

"If you stop paying for this storage space, we will throw your stuff out and give the space to someone else" is not extortion

This isn't really about the storage space, this is about building up playlists, saving playlists, sharing playlists etc that all goes away if you don't pay. I think they should maintain the playlists but have the unavailable songs greyed out - would encourage people to resubscribe and they wouldn't lose any work they've put into it.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/moneybox/2015/10/20/apple_music_has_6_5_million_subscribers_does_that_make_it_a_failure.html

Google is about to announce ad free Youtube "Red" which will include Google Play Music.

'redtube' is already a thing i'm p sure

http://thenextweb.com/google/2015/10/21/heres-why-youtube-red-named-its-product-that/

tl;dr they know about redtube and they're like eh

“As we talked to users and fans in our studies, the term ‘red’ is often associated with YouTube. It has a lot of meaning in terms of love and the red carpet.”

this guy's salary is probably more than my house

so it's not an homage to taylor swift?

lol xp