Any reason why ILM is so quiet these days?

if only we could find some reason why ILM is so quiet these days

well done evan

me/turri beef is not really much of a beef imo. lex was talking upthread about kicking back against received wisdom and turri is a on certain subjects a received wisdom player piano and i like to yell about it. we probably would agree and hug about which genesis records are good, or something

a cardboard box with an angry face drawn on it is still a cardboard box

― wins, Tuesday, February 7, 2017 6:50 PM (three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Calling oneself "wins" doesn't make one a winner either.

I mean it's true, I can't keep track of who hates me let alone who hates other people

buddy I haven't even gotten around to listening to the 1975, now you want me to read a thread about em?

that's kind of what I've been talking about. a newcomer wanders in, the most popular thread is a beef ouroboros. they wander into a thread for their favorite artist; it's dead. they think "hmm, I guess I use Spotify," more beef. or they think "I wonder if I can read some music writing," then discover that the most populated thread is dedicated to shitting on writers, sometimes with obvious reason but sometimes for reasons that lie deep in the depths of music writer drama. and then there is much handwringing about why the newcomer didn't stick around.

― a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Tuesday, February 7, 2017 6:50 PM (six minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

the only one of these that's a new thing for the current era of ilx is #2 (I'm sure there were Soulseek beefs back in the day).

so weird when people come in my store and they know me from here and they never post!!! they are always nice though.

YSI Justice vs Simian beefs RIP.

lol I read part of the 1975 thread and the offending behavior is literally chiming in "this band sucks" combined with the classic i know more about this band and their origins and what they're going for so i can tell you objectively they suck routine I pulled when I genuinely didn't understand other human beings as a kid

this is not rational, normal human behavior but wow it's classic messageboard stuff

on the other hand one of my fave things about lex (hi lex!) is his ability to complain about music without making it personal about the people who do like that music

lex is a force for good.

man, people used to be HOUNDED out of this place. it was brutal. it really is not like that now.

I feel like that's a subtle dog thread jab. Typical dickhole dad child bias

once the dickholes turned into dads things softened up around here

http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/the-smartiest-persons/images/5/53/Bob-saget-o.gif/revision/latest?cb=20140911212440

i know this post reads ridiculously, but its funny to read through this thread for posts that are clearly intended to be about me LOL

http://beefzilla.com/00%20Crave%20tastic%20Black%20900%20x%20200.jpg

theres an old ilx spirit of challenging conventional wisdom that the Nice Dads crew have kind of given up over the years, in response to a stronger-than-ever critical consensus reinforced by the appearance of popular consensus through social media that has in many ways had a strangling power on what had been "poptimist" discourse. not that my own proclivities could be reduced to poptimism, but it was preferable to the imagined wisdom of crowds based on a silo'd social media experience for sure

i told my kid today that i wanted to kill myself and kill everyone else around me. all because he was playing annoying youtubers on his phone trying to find out if tweetypie or whoever is an alt-nazi. i'm trying to quit smoking. he understood. i apologized. also, i was playing youtubes of ilx's fave albums of 2016 on the t.v. and the phone noise was bugging me. then i left the house. and ilx is soothing me. the walk in the snow with the other kid helped too.

talk about a dick dad!

xp I think I get what you're going for but I'm going to request you send that in for editing

the preferences for historical context and information over critical opinion is a false choice, reams of information, data, and 'authority' are attempts at disguising ideology cmon guys

xp I think I get what you're going for but I'm going to request you send that in for editing

― mh 😏, Tuesday, February 7, 2017 1:16 PM (fifteen seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

guys, i have a day job. i don't have time to respond to this mean criticism

at a university or in Chuck Todd's green room, sure. Not on a message board.

i don't know what that means. i need a translator.

x-poop

I have listened to every artist your new "favorite" has been compared to, and also listened to all the bands he has cited as influencing his sound. Therefore, I am most qualified to say.. he sucks. Bad. He's worse than all of his influences, sounds nothing like them, and also is the worst.

also he's subjectively bad

are you still talking about deej

sorry I'm still giggling at this posting style and will be rolling it around in my head for a while

nah I'm riffing off posts in a thread I skimmed

I think I get what you're going for but I'm going to request you send that in for editing

stop leeching off this poster's content

http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/villains/images/a/ac/Taz_2.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20110617212711

Shut Up I'm Still Talking About Deej

omg

lets have a thread where we passive aggressively talk about posters we dont like but sort of make it about, you know, the funny effects of the passage of time

j/k deej I love you

deej is a valuable and likable member of the ILM community

on the other hand one of my fave things about lex (hi lex!) is his ability to complain about music without making it personal about the people who do like that music

Complaining about their kids is a different story tho...

yeah I'm not going to step to him on issues of pets, kids, or sandwiches

I've posted my fair share of stuff that has no insight but I think there is a difference between replies which are "I don't agree and you should rethink because of Reasons XY&Z" and "hahaha fuck off."

Also if light conversation type "I like this it is good" posts lead to a reply from one of the greater critical thinkers around here who can illuminate a piece of music and enhance its pleasures etc I don't see how that is a bad thing in itself.

also I think that the mentality of "let's be mean/tough/whatever because life is like that" which I've noticed in a few threads (such as the missing Fred B) one is grim, other people's shitty attitudes and behaviours shouldn't be an excuse for your own.

i think a lot of times who is being "shitty" has a lot more to do with who is afforded the benefit of the doubt, who is reflecting the egos of the people liable to be agreed with—who is reflecting a consensus view—than it is anything to do w/ a posting style

you're talking about drawing young posters, i started the peep thread its like 80 posts of 40 year olds telling me he sucks for posts & posts & that i have shit taste etc. then when someone asks who's mean on ilx ppl are more likely to point to me than them lol

lol deej my default is to question what you post (I lurk the rap threads) because your default stance is to plop your take on the table as if its a given and then any contrary opinion is a challenger or diss

so of course people immediately start dissing. your actual writing about music is good, it's the post presentation that's funny

I think because ilxors just appear as letters on a screen it's easier to forget which ones told me to fuck off in the past.

I've only been told to fuck off (literally "fuck off") once that I can recall and I remember who why and when because it was such a surprise (like a slashed tire surprise not a good one). I find it alternately a relief that no one can see me and a burden because if you can't see ppl it's easier to tell them cavalierly to fuck off.

Also D-40 otm about benefit of the doubt.

Also if light conversation type "I like this it is good" posts lead to a reply from one of the greater critical thinkers around here who can illuminate a piece of music and enhance its pleasures etc I don't see how that is a bad thing in itself.

i was gonna say something to this effect, they can't all be tim and ned writing essays to each other about garbage

I feel like that's a subtle dog thread jab. Typical dickhole dad child bias

― Evan, Tuesday, February 7, 2017 1:10 PM (fifty-three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

what's the dog thread? i'm a dad you have to tell me

i'm probably a dickhole sometimes i guess

deej is fun to argue with but also he's like insanely plugged into rap shit that's bubbling under even underground acclaim, like sub 5000 YT hit stuff it's impressive

it's probably been a while since someone crafted a post in a word document or whatever. some of them were so long and no typos! maybe contenderizer. is he still around? he was like the last stand for going long.

― scott seward

i write any post of mine longer than three words in wordpad. but my spelling and grammar keep getting worse so i should probably switch to word!

Lex said he got jumped by dads in the dog thread a few weeks ago. I don't know what the dog thread is, but my theory id he was confusing it with the time he said he hates children and everybody piled on him. However, Skot made a remark about 'hounding' that Evan interpreted as a dog thread remark.

Xp

Yeah the taking sides children or animals who would win in a fight to the death thread revive from a few months back

dickhole dogs vs dickhole dads

I've only been told to fuck off (literally "fuck off") once that I can recall and I remember who why and when because it was such a surprise (like a slashed tire surprise not a good one).

I remember lashing out at you over some comment you made about Taylor Swift fans, maybe 7 years ago? I hope this isn't the one you're remembering. If so, I'm sorry. I mean, either way...

Ha, no
I don't think you told me to fuck off but if you did, I forgot. I probably deserved it if I was slagging Taylor Swift fans. That's rude.

I don't think I could take any response to LL as seriously hostile. There are people you can't be hostile to, even if it looks hostile.

i've been called a cunt twice, which is actually pretty lol

is it bad if I can only giggle at that