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Top 3 album in the UK. i don't think anyone saw that coming. they sound like Madder Rose to my ears. nice though. is this the bigest indie band of the last few years not to have their own thread?

anyway this one's my fave

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9E-RQgDJcrY

piscesx, Saturday, 4 July 2015 19:36 (three years ago) Permalink

There was talk about starting a dedicated thread in the Rolling 2015 Favorites thread, but it never happened I guess.

I've already made the point a dozen times that I thought the 7" version of "Bros" was one of my favorite indie rock guitar heavy songs of the last few years, and now I'm mad at the band not for re-recording it (it's their song, they can do whatever they want with it even though the new version sucks), but for removing all traces of the superior earlier version from steaming platforms and digital retailers. Eff you, Wolf Alice!

I still haven't listened to the album. Outside of the original "Bros" and "Moaning Lisa Smile," I think they're a band that's pretty long on sounding good but pretty short on writing good songs.

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 4 July 2015 19:42 (three years ago) Permalink

Listening now to the album: hmm, okay, some of these songs are really nice. "Freazy" in particular.

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 4 July 2015 20:14 (three years ago) Permalink

drummer is fantastic though

Dr X O'Skeleton, Saturday, 4 July 2015 21:48 (three years ago) Permalink

Lately whenever I encounter someone particularly annoying I hear "you're a dodgy fucker as well!" kick around my brain

the naive cockney chorus (Simon H.), Saturday, 4 July 2015 22:28 (three years ago) Permalink

this record is great

insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Sunday, 5 July 2015 02:32 (three years ago) Permalink

this record is fantastic, highlight of the year for me

ciderpress, Sunday, 5 July 2015 03:14 (three years ago) Permalink

Yep.

Better than I expected, better than I hoped.

Mark G, Sunday, 5 July 2015 12:09 (three years ago) Permalink

Bits of this sounded really lumpen and uninspired in the way you expect from basically 100% of hyped Brit rock bands these days but then a song would just suddenly explode into a joyous pop moment. Jury's out but if they could put together an entire album as good as those best bits they'd be incredible.

Matt DC, Sunday, 5 July 2015 12:41 (three years ago) Permalink

if they could put together an entire album as good as those best bits they'd be incredible.

Exactly how I feel, although we might have different ideas about the best bits.

I'm not surprised this charted so high (in the UK). I had been looking forward to this, but I am mostly disappointed. Too much of the material drags excessively (including "Your Loves Whore"). My favorites remain "Giant Peach" and "Moaning Lisa Smile." Maybe "Fluffy." "Turn to Dust" is nice, but I'm on the fence about it. "You're a Germ" is fine, though it seems a bit demo-ish. "Bros" is pretty good, but the earlier version was better, even if I can't remember exactly what it sounded like. I need to listen to this some more, but that's the thing: I'm finding it a bit of a slog.

_Rudipherous_, Sunday, 5 July 2015 19:56 (three years ago) Permalink

There are some good, possibly superior, live/studio live versions of some of these songs on youtube:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_MTHwAp-_Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IorLPeOuEuI

_Rudipherous_, Sunday, 5 July 2015 20:19 (three years ago) Permalink

"Freazy" was the one that stood out for me.

Mark G, Sunday, 5 July 2015 22:56 (three years ago) Permalink

lol if anything "giant peach" and "moaning lisa smile" drag the most imo

insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Monday, 6 July 2015 04:11 (three years ago) Permalink

Hate Giant Peach, love Moaning Lisa Smile. ¯\(ツ)/¯

Johnny Fever, Monday, 6 July 2015 04:52 (three years ago) Permalink

You're all wrong.

_Rudipherous_, Monday, 6 July 2015 12:21 (three years ago) Permalink

"your loves whore" is actually probably my favorite song on here, other than the last minute of "swallowtail"

insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Monday, 6 July 2015 12:52 (three years ago) Permalink

Listening to it now, and the thing that strikes me is how it feels like it's barely there, until it shifts gears. around 3:30. A lot of this is down to Roswell's vocal delivery.

_Rudipherous_, Monday, 6 July 2015 13:18 (three years ago) Permalink

I guess the vocals are meant to sound intimately conversational?

_Rudipherous_, Monday, 6 July 2015 13:20 (three years ago) Permalink

that giant peach song rules

kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 6 July 2015 13:53 (three years ago) Permalink

Peachy is riffs galore, and I like how it gets all Sonic Youth at around 3:05 (singles version, not the one I linked to above). I also can't help hearing echoes of the Psychedelic Furs' "India" at around 1:15, but that's probably just a personal problem. I hear as much of the 80s in it as the 90s.

_Rudipherous_, Monday, 6 July 2015 14:13 (three years ago) Permalink

I would have preferred if they hadn't made Roswell's vocals on that song sound like the Go-Go's or whatever they are going for there, not that I hate that sound, but her natural vocal sound suits the song better.

_Rudipherous_, Monday, 6 July 2015 14:15 (three years ago) Permalink

I'm listening to the album and it's pretty funny how this is almost structured to divide ILX, but honestly I think it's better for having the pop side and the more trad US underground rock style

kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 6 July 2015 15:05 (three years ago) Permalink

I don't think of myself as very rock oriented at all, but I like Wolf Alice better in rocking mode. (Almost everything else I've liked this year has been dance pop, indie pop, hipster pop shit, etc.)

_Rudipherous_, Monday, 6 July 2015 15:11 (three years ago) Permalink

You could have a point in general though. If more of ILX pays any attention to this band, that might become clearer.

_Rudipherous_, Monday, 6 July 2015 15:11 (three years ago) Permalink

So wait there are THREE versions of "Bros?"

Wimmels, Tuesday, 7 July 2015 18:56 (three years ago) Permalink

Oh I guess one of these is a remix of some sort. Not sure where this came from but I have it in my iTunes for some reason. Anyone know where this is from? It's pretty nice...

Wimmels, Tuesday, 7 July 2015 18:59 (three years ago) Permalink

The album cover reminds me of one of those old occult/mediumistic photos.

_Rudipherous_, Wednesday, 8 July 2015 15:58 (three years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

hadn't twigged the similarity btw this and Moaning Lisa's Smile.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93jsY-YdZ1s

piscesx, Tuesday, 11 August 2015 18:14 (three years ago) Permalink

this was better than I expected it to be; it's a weird record to be so big. No real poppy hooks; also it's not really a standout for the sort of music it is either, but it's pleasant

akm, Wednesday, 12 August 2015 14:04 (three years ago) Permalink

I listened to this a few days ago after seeing how popular they had become and skimming this thread and I didn't expect it to sound the way it did. It reminds me a lot of Belly at their most introspective.

boxedjoy, Wednesday, 12 August 2015 21:32 (three years ago) Permalink

four months pass...

This is really growing on me.

kornrulez6969, Thursday, 17 December 2015 16:43 (two years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

Fuck I wish I'd listened to this before I submitted my eoy ballot.

how's life, Monday, 18 January 2016 13:28 (two years ago) Permalink

four weeks pass...

#BRITBREAKWOLFALICE

Mark G, Monday, 15 February 2016 09:34 (two years ago) Permalink

http://www.brits.co.uk/british-breakthrough-vote-guide

Mark G, Monday, 15 February 2016 09:35 (two years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

i dig this song!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6vEE3Plk48

scott seward, Saturday, 9 April 2016 01:23 (two years ago) Permalink

i seriously might go buy this album. i love riff rockin' with cool women singers. it must be the veruca salt fan in me.

scott seward, Saturday, 9 April 2016 01:25 (two years ago) Permalink

best video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkghyKKQDss

scott seward, Saturday, 9 April 2016 01:33 (two years ago) Permalink

love this too:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KhC2qNLGd4

scott seward, Saturday, 9 April 2016 01:43 (two years ago) Permalink

this is a great record scott! I hope you like it

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Saturday, 9 April 2016 02:40 (two years ago) Permalink

Some of the live versions of "Giant Peach" are better than the album version, over all. This one for instance:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6-wbuON8Qk

(Although the climax is maybe best in the studio version.)

_Rudipherous_, Saturday, 9 April 2016 03:53 (two years ago) Permalink

*overall*

(I am really tired.)

_Rudipherous_, Saturday, 9 April 2016 03:57 (two years ago) Permalink

i ordered the CD online. i got the U.S. version which is slightly different than the U.K. version? Just like in the old days.

scott seward, Saturday, 9 April 2016 04:00 (two years ago) Permalink

This is my favorite rock album in awhile.

kornrulez6969, Saturday, 9 April 2016 16:15 (two years ago) Permalink

i had no idea. until the other day.

scott seward, Saturday, 9 April 2016 16:15 (two years ago) Permalink

Really pissed off that I missed out on them last year. They're touring America now, but the only tour stop local to me is at a festival that I can't afford tickets to.

how's life, Saturday, 9 April 2016 17:28 (two years ago) Permalink

They're opening for the 1975 who are apparently playing arenas. How the hell is that happening? Same thing with Alt J, who sold out Madison Square Garden.

kornrulez6969, Saturday, 9 April 2016 22:05 (two years ago) Permalink

they have a sizeable and enthusiastic fanbase

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Saturday, 9 April 2016 22:25 (two years ago) Permalink

i mean i too was surprised but they were selling out everything beneath arenas

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Saturday, 9 April 2016 22:27 (two years ago) Permalink

i even love their cover of wicked game.

scott seward, Sunday, 10 April 2016 14:01 (two years ago) Permalink

sounds so cool. they make it the guitar anthem it was meant to be.

scott seward, Sunday, 10 April 2016 14:02 (two years ago) Permalink

better than the album version IMO, this is the one that reminds me of Throwing Muses the most i think

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6eohMq7ACI

piscesx, Friday, 1 December 2017 22:28 (one year ago) Permalink

even this is pretty decent

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3jl6srja_8

piscesx, Friday, 1 December 2017 22:29 (one year ago) Permalink

That's a great version of Planet Hunter.

(yt made me click through and there's an extremely uncomfortable interview with Ellie on there, dang)

Le Bateau Ivre, Friday, 1 December 2017 22:47 (one year ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LwfFGk52VQs

Meant this one. She's very thoughtful and seems to fight her way through what seems more like a therapy session than an interview. Journalist is weird.

Le Bateau Ivre, Friday, 1 December 2017 22:54 (one year ago) Permalink

i think i've seen every live version of giant peach that's on youtube

dynamicinterface, Saturday, 2 December 2017 01:07 (one year ago) Permalink

Interviews from naybob radio stations asking 'why's the album called that?' type questions to hungover sunburned indie bands in cabins backstage at Europoean festivals seem to litter You Tube these days.

piscesx, Saturday, 2 December 2017 01:24 (one year ago) Permalink

it's not an uneven album, it just feels like two very distinct directions that don't meet anywhere in the middle. I don't dislike "Yuk Foo" but when you've got something as incredible as "Don't Delete The Kisses" in your oeuvre I don't know why wouldn't follow further down that road.

boxedjoy, Saturday, 2 December 2017 10:23 (one year ago) Permalink

'Yuk Foo' is just fine where it is - the 90s alt-rock records this reminds me of would roam all over the place. 'Siamese Dream' wouldn't work if it wasn't equal parts 'Quiet' and 'Mayonaise' and this feels like it's trying to capture the spirit of records like that, even if the lyrical approach is totally different. 'Don't Delete The Kisses' is amazing but other bands could offer you a whole album's worth of that, and probably will.

It's a great record but it's the abrupt turn into more florid territory from 'Sadboy' onwards that really makes it for me. It reminds me a bit of 'Ritual De Lo Habitual' in that regard, in which it seems content to play it at least vaguely straight for a long time and then throws everything it has at you.

Matt DC, Saturday, 2 December 2017 11:33 (one year ago) Permalink

i didn't really care for Yuk Foo as the lead single but it's definitely better in context

ufo, Saturday, 2 December 2017 15:43 (one year ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I095rfA_UaU

piscesx, Saturday, 2 December 2017 16:07 (one year ago) Permalink

Yeah, saw that. There's also a cover of Tim Buckley's Song to the Siren up on spotify. They're both ok, I guess. I'm not a huge fan of covers that are just half the band in a radio station studio or whatever. Esp with Song to the Siren, I was hoping to hear what kind of an effects-laden treatment they might give it.

how's life, Saturday, 2 December 2017 16:15 (one year ago) Permalink

Also your comment about terrible youtube festival interviews is otm.

how's life, Saturday, 2 December 2017 16:15 (one year ago) Permalink

^^ yes.

Le Bateau Ivre, Saturday, 2 December 2017 16:20 (one year ago) Permalink

"Planet Hunter" is nice but sounds nothing like Throwing Muses, wtf

sick, fucking funny, and well tasty (katherine), Saturday, 2 December 2017 16:21 (one year ago) Permalink

Katherine and piecesx, I thought about this conversation while listening to the Melkbelly record. Have you guys checked them out? Their singer sounds like Kristin Hersh (50 Foot Wave-era) to me. Others on the thread are pointing more towards Kim/Kelly Deal, but when you add in the melodies, I think a Hersh comparison is undeniable.

Melkbelly - Nothing Valley

how's life, Monday, 11 December 2017 15:56 (one year ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=486sTKx9nK4

really nailed it

In a slipshod style (Ross), Tuesday, 19 December 2017 05:50 (eleven months ago) Permalink

Sadboy was the track it took me the longest to like from the new one, but after about 5 listens I glommed on. When I saw them last week, it felt like the drummer started it off at the wrong tempo: way too slow. About halfway through the song, when the downtuned vocals and sing-along come in, it all came together and hit hard. That beginning part must be a little tricky to get the vibe right. Only song they played where I felt taken out of it. Everything else was killer.

how's life, Tuesday, 19 December 2017 12:30 (eleven months ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

Don't Delete the Kisses is getting a Charli XCX remix, due out tomorrow 5 pm GMT on Beats1

how's life, Tuesday, 2 January 2018 18:42 (eleven months ago) Permalink

oh awesome!

kolakube (Ross), Tuesday, 2 January 2018 18:53 (eleven months ago) Permalink

very nice, it always reminded me of "You're the One" or "Stay Away"

sick, fucking funny, and well tasty (katherine), Tuesday, 2 January 2018 19:23 (eleven months ago) Permalink

sneak peak

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hn21chZFg_g

kolakube (Ross), Tuesday, 2 January 2018 19:29 (eleven months ago) Permalink

one month passes...

Just listened to the studio version of the Charli XCX mix because I've been on an XCX kick after the year end polls. The live cover felt desultory and for some reason I just figured that the studio version would be more of the same, but I ended up liking it a lot. A nice companion piece to the original.

how's life, Friday, 2 February 2018 12:46 (ten months ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bg1ocz7TUL4

!

how's life, Friday, 16 February 2018 09:50 (nine months ago) Permalink

heh my old group supported these once at our tiny social club in north east england. they wanted to drag us on tour across uk. its funny how big theyve gotten. i called the singer out at the time on stealing her steez from annie hardy of giant drag -- she conceded.

meaulnes, Friday, 16 February 2018 21:09 (nine months ago) Permalink

Which giant drag material is worth seeking out?

kolakube (Ross), Friday, 16 February 2018 21:46 (nine months ago) Permalink

The earlier, the better.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 16 February 2018 21:48 (nine months ago) Permalink

first Giant Drag album is essential

boxedjoy, Friday, 16 February 2018 21:49 (nine months ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6sRAzBWCnfM

not a massive song, but I like it

niels, Wednesday, 14 March 2018 17:04 (eight months ago) Permalink

Yeah, reminded me of the party scene Jacobs Ladder.

Don't Delete The Kisses is getting a remix ep for Record Store Day in the UK.

how's life, Wednesday, 14 March 2018 17:09 (eight months ago) Permalink

two months pass...

http://songexploder.net/wolf-alice

Don't have the chance to listen yet, but Song Exploder just did an ep on Don't Delete the Kisses.

how's life, Wednesday, 6 June 2018 17:16 (six months ago) Permalink

good one, thanks

such a great song

niels, Thursday, 7 June 2018 09:42 (six months ago) Permalink

two months pass...

Just relistened to my love is cool and it blows the new one out of the water. The highs on the latest are indeed wonderful but there’s a consistency lacking in style, the first record juggles sweet, heavy and jagged so much better while the new one feels like a greatest hits of their styles with some new (don’t delete the kisses) directions thrown in

Ross, Friday, 10 August 2018 21:23 (four months ago) Permalink

I think they're both very good albums. They're at a stage now where either their best work is still ahead of them or they've already shot their bolt. Given what they're capable of at their best, I'm hoping its the former. It'll probably be the latter, though.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Friday, 10 August 2018 21:43 (four months ago) Permalink

They're at a stage now where either their best work is still ahead of them or they've already shot their bolt.

well that covers all the bases

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Friday, 10 August 2018 21:45 (four months ago) Permalink

These days, particularly in the type of music Wolf Alice specialise in, I think you can tell by the third or fourth album whether or not a band have shot their bolt or are realising their potential.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Friday, 10 August 2018 21:57 (four months ago) Permalink

their lollapalooza set was some next level shit

Ross, Friday, 10 August 2018 22:38 (four months ago) Permalink

well that covers all the bases

I predict that all future Wolf Alice albums will be exactly as good as this last one, no more, no less.

Matt DC, Saturday, 11 August 2018 09:38 (four months ago) Permalink

Nah, their next album will make it apparent whether they've got a long career ahead of them or whether they've said all they need to say.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Saturday, 11 August 2018 09:56 (four months ago) Permalink

Dunno man. Chvrches have said all they need to say but they’re still churning out serviceable albums. Matt DC otm

Ross, Saturday, 11 August 2018 13:09 (four months ago) Permalink

Hmm. Not sure that I agree with that - my takeaway from the (excellent) album Chvrches released this year is that there's more and better to come.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Saturday, 11 August 2018 17:01 (four months ago) Permalink

I love it too fwiw

Abomination Street (Ross), Sunday, 12 August 2018 01:24 (three months ago) Permalink

A nice antidote to all the hoo-ha about the Reading and Leeds line up being rubbish, last night on the BBC; an hour of Wolf Alice headlining the Radio 1 stage. Storming gig, band on fire, all the hits, fancy lights, disco balls, glitter, the whole bit. At one point they got 2 girls up and one proposed to the other to raucous cheers and applause, then they went into Don't Delete The Kisses. If i was 18 watching that i'm sure i'd have fuckin loved it.

piscesx, Saturday, 25 August 2018 13:14 (three months ago) Permalink

I'll have to ask Alice about it, they are down there this weekend

Mark G, Saturday, 25 August 2018 21:46 (three months ago) Permalink

Some friends' 16-year old son is at Leeds. I suggested Wolf Alice, but he said it clashed with The Wombats. Tsk, kids.

mike t-diva, Sunday, 26 August 2018 10:09 (three months ago) Permalink

Yeah, they were deciding between the Kooks on stage, and the Wombats in the signing tent.

Mark G, Sunday, 26 August 2018 14:09 (three months ago) Permalink

I'm sure Wolf Alice was a green marker event though.

Mark G, Sunday, 26 August 2018 14:10 (three months ago) Permalink

The Winterbottom film is great! I can't believe it isn't better known about. It's streaming on Amazon Prime btw if any of y'all have that.

piscesx, Wednesday, 5 September 2018 09:12 (three months ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

nice one chaps!

piscesx, Thursday, 20 September 2018 21:15 (two months ago) Permalink

Genuinely surprised!

Mark G, Thursday, 20 September 2018 21:34 (two months ago) Permalink

People will say they were 'due for an Indie one' this year but hey. Ellie Rowsell herself was on the panel a coupla years back 'interestngly'.

piscesx, Thursday, 20 September 2018 21:37 (two months ago) Permalink


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