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Top 3 album in the UK. i don't think anyone saw that coming. they sound like Madder Rose to my ears. nice though. is this the bigest indie band of the last few years not to have their own thread?

anyway this one's my fave

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9E-RQgDJcrY

piscesx, Saturday, 4 July 2015 19:36 (five years ago) link

There was talk about starting a dedicated thread in the Rolling 2015 Favorites thread, but it never happened I guess.

I've already made the point a dozen times that I thought the 7" version of "Bros" was one of my favorite indie rock guitar heavy songs of the last few years, and now I'm mad at the band not for re-recording it (it's their song, they can do whatever they want with it even though the new version sucks), but for removing all traces of the superior earlier version from steaming platforms and digital retailers. Eff you, Wolf Alice!

I still haven't listened to the album. Outside of the original "Bros" and "Moaning Lisa Smile," I think they're a band that's pretty long on sounding good but pretty short on writing good songs.

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 4 July 2015 19:42 (five years ago) link

Listening now to the album: hmm, okay, some of these songs are really nice. "Freazy" in particular.

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 4 July 2015 20:14 (five years ago) link

drummer is fantastic though

Dr X O'Skeleton, Saturday, 4 July 2015 21:48 (five years ago) link

Lately whenever I encounter someone particularly annoying I hear "you're a dodgy fucker as well!" kick around my brain

the naive cockney chorus (Simon H.), Saturday, 4 July 2015 22:28 (five years ago) link

this record is great

this record is fantastic, highlight of the year for me

ciderpress, Sunday, 5 July 2015 03:14 (five years ago) link

Yep.

Better than I expected, better than I hoped.

Mark G, Sunday, 5 July 2015 12:09 (five years ago) link

Bits of this sounded really lumpen and uninspired in the way you expect from basically 100% of hyped Brit rock bands these days but then a song would just suddenly explode into a joyous pop moment. Jury's out but if they could put together an entire album as good as those best bits they'd be incredible.

Matt DC, Sunday, 5 July 2015 12:41 (five years ago) link

if they could put together an entire album as good as those best bits they'd be incredible.

Exactly how I feel, although we might have different ideas about the best bits.

I'm not surprised this charted so high (in the UK). I had been looking forward to this, but I am mostly disappointed. Too much of the material drags excessively (including "Your Loves Whore"). My favorites remain "Giant Peach" and "Moaning Lisa Smile." Maybe "Fluffy." "Turn to Dust" is nice, but I'm on the fence about it. "You're a Germ" is fine, though it seems a bit demo-ish. "Bros" is pretty good, but the earlier version was better, even if I can't remember exactly what it sounded like. I need to listen to this some more, but that's the thing: I'm finding it a bit of a slog.

_Rudipherous_, Sunday, 5 July 2015 19:56 (five years ago) link

There are some good, possibly superior, live/studio live versions of some of these songs on youtube:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_MTHwAp-_Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IorLPeOuEuI

_Rudipherous_, Sunday, 5 July 2015 20:19 (five years ago) link

"Freazy" was the one that stood out for me.

Mark G, Sunday, 5 July 2015 22:56 (five years ago) link

lol if anything "giant peach" and "moaning lisa smile" drag the most imo

Hate Giant Peach, love Moaning Lisa Smile. ¯\(ツ)/¯

Johnny Fever, Monday, 6 July 2015 04:52 (five years ago) link

You're all wrong.

_Rudipherous_, Monday, 6 July 2015 12:21 (five years ago) link

"your loves whore" is actually probably my favorite song on here, other than the last minute of "swallowtail"

Listening to it now, and the thing that strikes me is how it feels like it's barely there, until it shifts gears. around 3:30. A lot of this is down to Roswell's vocal delivery.

_Rudipherous_, Monday, 6 July 2015 13:18 (five years ago) link

I guess the vocals are meant to sound intimately conversational?

_Rudipherous_, Monday, 6 July 2015 13:20 (five years ago) link

that giant peach song rules

kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 6 July 2015 13:53 (five years ago) link

Peachy is riffs galore, and I like how it gets all Sonic Youth at around 3:05 (singles version, not the one I linked to above). I also can't help hearing echoes of the Psychedelic Furs' "India" at around 1:15, but that's probably just a personal problem. I hear as much of the 80s in it as the 90s.

_Rudipherous_, Monday, 6 July 2015 14:13 (five years ago) link

I would have preferred if they hadn't made Roswell's vocals on that song sound like the Go-Go's or whatever they are going for there, not that I hate that sound, but her natural vocal sound suits the song better.

_Rudipherous_, Monday, 6 July 2015 14:15 (five years ago) link

I'm listening to the album and it's pretty funny how this is almost structured to divide ILX, but honestly I think it's better for having the pop side and the more trad US underground rock style

kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 6 July 2015 15:05 (five years ago) link

I don't think of myself as very rock oriented at all, but I like Wolf Alice better in rocking mode. (Almost everything else I've liked this year has been dance pop, indie pop, hipster pop shit, etc.)

_Rudipherous_, Monday, 6 July 2015 15:11 (five years ago) link

You could have a point in general though. If more of ILX pays any attention to this band, that might become clearer.

_Rudipherous_, Monday, 6 July 2015 15:11 (five years ago) link

So wait there are THREE versions of "Bros?"

Wimmels, Tuesday, 7 July 2015 18:56 (five years ago) link

Oh I guess one of these is a remix of some sort. Not sure where this came from but I have it in my iTunes for some reason. Anyone know where this is from? It's pretty nice...

Wimmels, Tuesday, 7 July 2015 18:59 (five years ago) link

The album cover reminds me of one of those old occult/mediumistic photos.

_Rudipherous_, Wednesday, 8 July 2015 15:58 (five years ago) link

one month passes...

hadn't twigged the similarity btw this and Moaning Lisa's Smile.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93jsY-YdZ1s

piscesx, Tuesday, 11 August 2015 18:14 (five years ago) link

this was better than I expected it to be; it's a weird record to be so big. No real poppy hooks; also it's not really a standout for the sort of music it is either, but it's pleasant

akm, Wednesday, 12 August 2015 14:04 (five years ago) link

I listened to this a few days ago after seeing how popular they had become and skimming this thread and I didn't expect it to sound the way it did. It reminds me a lot of Belly at their most introspective.

boxedjoy, Wednesday, 12 August 2015 21:32 (five years ago) link

four months pass...

This is really growing on me.

kornrulez6969, Thursday, 17 December 2015 16:43 (five years ago) link

one month passes...

Fuck I wish I'd listened to this before I submitted my eoy ballot.

how's life, Monday, 18 January 2016 13:28 (five years ago) link

four weeks pass...

#BRITBREAKWOLFALICE

Mark G, Monday, 15 February 2016 09:34 (five years ago) link

http://www.brits.co.uk/british-breakthrough-vote-guide

Mark G, Monday, 15 February 2016 09:35 (five years ago) link

one month passes...

i dig this song!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6vEE3Plk48

scott seward, Saturday, 9 April 2016 01:23 (five years ago) link

i seriously might go buy this album. i love riff rockin' with cool women singers. it must be the veruca salt fan in me.

scott seward, Saturday, 9 April 2016 01:25 (five years ago) link

best video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkghyKKQDss

scott seward, Saturday, 9 April 2016 01:33 (five years ago) link

love this too:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KhC2qNLGd4

scott seward, Saturday, 9 April 2016 01:43 (five years ago) link

this is a great record scott! I hope you like it

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Saturday, 9 April 2016 02:40 (five years ago) link

Some of the live versions of "Giant Peach" are better than the album version, over all. This one for instance:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6-wbuON8Qk

(Although the climax is maybe best in the studio version.)

_Rudipherous_, Saturday, 9 April 2016 03:53 (five years ago) link

*overall*

(I am really tired.)

_Rudipherous_, Saturday, 9 April 2016 03:57 (five years ago) link

i ordered the CD online. i got the U.S. version which is slightly different than the U.K. version? Just like in the old days.

scott seward, Saturday, 9 April 2016 04:00 (five years ago) link

This is my favorite rock album in awhile.

kornrulez6969, Saturday, 9 April 2016 16:15 (five years ago) link

i had no idea. until the other day.

scott seward, Saturday, 9 April 2016 16:15 (five years ago) link

Really pissed off that I missed out on them last year. They're touring America now, but the only tour stop local to me is at a festival that I can't afford tickets to.

how's life, Saturday, 9 April 2016 17:28 (five years ago) link

They're opening for the 1975 who are apparently playing arenas. How the hell is that happening? Same thing with Alt J, who sold out Madison Square Garden.

kornrulez6969, Saturday, 9 April 2016 22:05 (five years ago) link

they have a sizeable and enthusiastic fanbase

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Saturday, 9 April 2016 22:25 (five years ago) link

i mean i too was surprised but they were selling out everything beneath arenas

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Saturday, 9 April 2016 22:27 (five years ago) link

i even love their cover of wicked game.

scott seward, Sunday, 10 April 2016 14:01 (five years ago) link

sounds so cool. they make it the guitar anthem it was meant to be.

scott seward, Sunday, 10 April 2016 14:02 (five years ago) link

"how can i make it ok" is really wonderful but should have had like a acoustic guitar solo or something to complete the balearic feel

ufo, Friday, 4 June 2021 07:07 (two weeks ago) link

"safe from heartbreak" is one of the best "short mid-album breather ballads" I've ever heard, and a LOT of bands have tried it

intern at pelican brief consulting (Simon H.), Friday, 4 June 2021 13:22 (two weeks ago) link

One of those Listening Party affairs is happening at 6pm uk time;

We'll be joining @Tim_Burgess for a @LlSTENlNG_PARTY at 6PM BST today. Grab a blue bev and start your weekend with us xxx #TimsTwitterListeningParty #BlueWeekend
Artwork by @RNRReceipts pic.twitter.com/uY45ZpI6gC

— Wolf Alice (@wolfalicemusic) June 4, 2021

piscesx, Friday, 4 June 2021 15:24 (two weeks ago) link

That stretch from "Safe from Heartbreak" to "Play the Greatest Hits" had my head spinning.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 4 June 2021 15:26 (two weeks ago) link

my only real complaint is the "Beach" bookends are a little on the slight side, but that's really just "I want more" which is the best type of complaint to have

intern at pelican brief consulting (Simon H.), Friday, 4 June 2021 15:28 (two weeks ago) link

it was cool that the pre-release tracks didn't really reveal what the album was going for much, like only "the last man on earth" hinted at it, and even though i enjoy it a lot more in the context of the album it feels a bit more obvious than the rest in its big dramatic build etc.

ufo, Friday, 4 June 2021 15:43 (two weeks ago) link

"beach ii" is one of the best songs on the album, swan dive into shoegaze

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 4 June 2021 16:19 (two weeks ago) link

this album feels 15 minutes long (this is a compliment)

intern at pelican brief consulting (Simon H.), Friday, 4 June 2021 16:20 (two weeks ago) link

i have said it before but the drummer in this band is a beast

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 4 June 2021 16:32 (two weeks ago) link

And his background vocals on Safe From Heartbreak are very welcome indeed.

peace, man, Friday, 4 June 2021 16:40 (two weeks ago) link

i really want them to next make an album that takes this one's sound and lets all the songs sprawl for 10 minutes each. give me some epics

ufo, Friday, 4 June 2021 16:45 (two weeks ago) link

Yeah, I would have loved an epic a la the Visions of a Life title track. Like to hear them play around with these textures more. I'd be up for that.

From a track-listing perspective though, Delicious Things into Lipstick on the Glass is pretty substantial chunk of album there (and right at the beginning too!).

peace, man, Friday, 4 June 2021 17:15 (two weeks ago) link

oh yeah those first three tracks together are incredible

ufo, Friday, 4 June 2021 17:19 (two weeks ago) link

ok i even love "play the greatest hits" now though it's not quite as good at the sort of thing it does as "yuk foo"

ufo, Saturday, 5 June 2021 02:25 (two weeks ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5VG2XWUEbA

ufo, Sunday, 6 June 2021 00:53 (two weeks ago) link

this album is the midpoint between siamese dream and aerial

ufo, Sunday, 6 June 2021 07:56 (two weeks ago) link

anyone getting Susanne Sundfør vibes on "How Can I Make It OK"?

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 6 June 2021 11:43 (two weeks ago) link

Definitely. And I’m so impressed by the vocals across every track; hooks all over the place.

Last album didn’t do much for me besides Don’t Delete The Kisses, but I’m blown away by this.

triggercut, Sunday, 6 June 2021 11:49 (two weeks ago) link

oh yeah i hear that alfred

ufo, Sunday, 6 June 2021 11:53 (two weeks ago) link

The best Lykke li record that she never made

nostormo, Monday, 7 June 2021 13:55 (two weeks ago) link

oh man

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Monday, 7 June 2021 15:51 (two weeks ago) link

this album feels 15 minutes long (this is a compliment)

― intern at pelican brief consulting (Simon H.), Friday, June 4, 2021 9:20 AM (three days ago) bookmarkflaglink

otm, it's inexhaustible

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Monday, 7 June 2021 15:51 (two weeks ago) link

it's like they figured out each previous album felt just the slightest bit padded out and surgically removed the excess this time

intern at pelican brief consulting (Simon H.), Monday, 7 June 2021 16:01 (two weeks ago) link

there are gonna be at least a few contenders for "best-sounding rock record" this year but this one has the edge so far

intern at pelican brief consulting (Simon H.), Monday, 7 June 2021 20:22 (two weeks ago) link

love the intensely bratty vocal on "play the greatest hits"

intern at pelican brief consulting (Simon H.), Monday, 7 June 2021 20:24 (two weeks ago) link

https://www.metacritic.com/browse/albums/score/metascore/all/filtered?sort=desc

Struggling to recall the last time I saw such a positive reaction across the board for a British album.

piscesx, Monday, 7 June 2021 21:56 (two weeks ago) link

it seems like it's mostly just uk outlets that have reviewed it so far and i'm sure they're rightfully delighted that a big uk rock band has made something this good. like are there any other uk bands out there making Big Rock Albums that good these days, just the 1975 i think? who are great but way more polarising of course

p4k is already not going to be onboard though, expecting a 7.5 or something in the coming days

ufo, Monday, 7 June 2021 22:07 (two weeks ago) link

i predict they tank the score for fun

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Monday, 7 June 2021 22:24 (two weeks ago) link

j/k

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Monday, 7 June 2021 22:24 (two weeks ago) link

It'd be nice to see this get BNM but I reckon it'll bubble just below

intern at pelican brief consulting (Simon H.), Monday, 7 June 2021 22:28 (two weeks ago) link

it wasn't on their 'albums to listen to week roundup' so pretty much no chance of BNM

ufo, Monday, 7 June 2021 22:35 (two weeks ago) link

not even the (really great) japanese breakfast album, which seemed like about as BNM-bait as an album could be could manage BNM this week though lol

ufo, Monday, 7 June 2021 22:38 (two weeks ago) link

just realized "safe from heartbreak" could pass for a roches number

intern at pelican brief consulting (Simon H.), Monday, 7 June 2021 22:45 (two weeks ago) link

Maybe they don’t review it at all.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 7 June 2021 23:02 (two weeks ago) link

safe from heartbreak is gorgeous

wonderful record

really want to see it live in a wild crowd

corrs unplugged, Tuesday, 8 June 2021 15:51 (two weeks ago) link

h8 2 austin but who gives a flying fuck abt pfork's response to this album. will check it out later

imago, Tuesday, 8 June 2021 15:54 (two weeks ago) link

ellie really levelled up on this one imo...at various points on this record I get little hits of sundfor, fiona apple ("I'm no longer cashing tills, yeah") and liz fraser, but she's also get a presence all her own. the occasional male backing vox are a lovely touch as well

intern at pelican brief consulting (Simon H.), Tuesday, 8 June 2021 16:06 (two weeks ago) link

okay, this album rules

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Friday, 11 June 2021 00:44 (one week ago) link

rt

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 11 June 2021 01:02 (one week ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KX_QelwuC8I

this is the best song

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 15 June 2021 17:06 (one week ago) link

great video too

ufo, Tuesday, 15 June 2021 17:17 (one week ago) link

Brad, do you hear "Love to Love You Baby" in the hi-hat and vocals?

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 15 June 2021 22:13 (one week ago) link

Damn, astute observation Alfred! It's one of my favorite songs from the album.

I'm still really loving this record and Wolf Alice is one of my favorite bands from the last decade. One thing I'll say is that the lyrics seem like they've taken a different turn? Ellie seems to be in a more straightforward writing phase, whereas when I listen back to stuff from My Love Is Cool, her lyrics seemed to have a more poetic bent. I don't think this is to the detriment of the songs in any way. The exception being Feeling Myself, which I love musically, but feels way too on-the-nose for me. I think she had mentioned in one of their recent interviews how after the Visions of a Life tour, she had trouble starting to write again.

idk, I love Blue Weekend a lot and am still listening to it regularly, but just wanted to see if anyone else felt that way about it.

peace, man, Tuesday, 15 June 2021 22:40 (one week ago) link

definitely more direct and diaristic than I recall from the other albums

intern at pelican brief consulting (Simon H.), Tuesday, 15 June 2021 22:47 (one week ago) link

Ok cool. Good to hear that from someone else. Again, I don't mean it as a slight. Visions of a Life had a song that it took me a long time to come around to (Beautifully Unconventional). I think Feeling Myself might be that for this album.

peace, man, Tuesday, 15 June 2021 23:06 (one week ago) link

ok, so, "safe from heartbreak"...holy shit

the mai tai quinn (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 15 June 2021 23:27 (one week ago) link

You want a cover of Steely Dan’s ‘Dirty Work’??
(59 minutes in)

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m000x0gm

piscesx, Wednesday, 16 June 2021 22:43 (six days ago) link

No?

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 16 June 2021 22:46 (six days ago) link

nice cover imo

intern at pelican brief consulting (Simon H.), Wednesday, 16 June 2021 22:51 (six days ago) link

Bit of a catty review in Pitchfork. They always seem to have a problem with bands that are bigged up in the UK press.

groovypanda, Tuesday, 22 June 2021 08:50 (eleven hours ago) link


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