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Top 3 album in the UK. i don't think anyone saw that coming. they sound like Madder Rose to my ears. nice though. is this the bigest indie band of the last few years not to have their own thread?

anyway this one's my fave

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9E-RQgDJcrY

piscesx, Saturday, 4 July 2015 19:36 (five years ago) link

There was talk about starting a dedicated thread in the Rolling 2015 Favorites thread, but it never happened I guess.

I've already made the point a dozen times that I thought the 7" version of "Bros" was one of my favorite indie rock guitar heavy songs of the last few years, and now I'm mad at the band not for re-recording it (it's their song, they can do whatever they want with it even though the new version sucks), but for removing all traces of the superior earlier version from steaming platforms and digital retailers. Eff you, Wolf Alice!

I still haven't listened to the album. Outside of the original "Bros" and "Moaning Lisa Smile," I think they're a band that's pretty long on sounding good but pretty short on writing good songs.

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 4 July 2015 19:42 (five years ago) link

Listening now to the album: hmm, okay, some of these songs are really nice. "Freazy" in particular.

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 4 July 2015 20:14 (five years ago) link

drummer is fantastic though

Dr X O'Skeleton, Saturday, 4 July 2015 21:48 (five years ago) link

Lately whenever I encounter someone particularly annoying I hear "you're a dodgy fucker as well!" kick around my brain

the naive cockney chorus (Simon H.), Saturday, 4 July 2015 22:28 (five years ago) link

this record is great

this record is fantastic, highlight of the year for me

ciderpress, Sunday, 5 July 2015 03:14 (five years ago) link

Yep.

Better than I expected, better than I hoped.

Mark G, Sunday, 5 July 2015 12:09 (five years ago) link

Bits of this sounded really lumpen and uninspired in the way you expect from basically 100% of hyped Brit rock bands these days but then a song would just suddenly explode into a joyous pop moment. Jury's out but if they could put together an entire album as good as those best bits they'd be incredible.

Matt DC, Sunday, 5 July 2015 12:41 (five years ago) link

if they could put together an entire album as good as those best bits they'd be incredible.

Exactly how I feel, although we might have different ideas about the best bits.

I'm not surprised this charted so high (in the UK). I had been looking forward to this, but I am mostly disappointed. Too much of the material drags excessively (including "Your Loves Whore"). My favorites remain "Giant Peach" and "Moaning Lisa Smile." Maybe "Fluffy." "Turn to Dust" is nice, but I'm on the fence about it. "You're a Germ" is fine, though it seems a bit demo-ish. "Bros" is pretty good, but the earlier version was better, even if I can't remember exactly what it sounded like. I need to listen to this some more, but that's the thing: I'm finding it a bit of a slog.

_Rudipherous_, Sunday, 5 July 2015 19:56 (five years ago) link

There are some good, possibly superior, live/studio live versions of some of these songs on youtube:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_MTHwAp-_Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IorLPeOuEuI

_Rudipherous_, Sunday, 5 July 2015 20:19 (five years ago) link

"Freazy" was the one that stood out for me.

Mark G, Sunday, 5 July 2015 22:56 (five years ago) link

lol if anything "giant peach" and "moaning lisa smile" drag the most imo

Hate Giant Peach, love Moaning Lisa Smile. ¯\(ツ)/¯

Johnny Fever, Monday, 6 July 2015 04:52 (five years ago) link

You're all wrong.

_Rudipherous_, Monday, 6 July 2015 12:21 (five years ago) link

"your loves whore" is actually probably my favorite song on here, other than the last minute of "swallowtail"

Listening to it now, and the thing that strikes me is how it feels like it's barely there, until it shifts gears. around 3:30. A lot of this is down to Roswell's vocal delivery.

_Rudipherous_, Monday, 6 July 2015 13:18 (five years ago) link

I guess the vocals are meant to sound intimately conversational?

_Rudipherous_, Monday, 6 July 2015 13:20 (five years ago) link

that giant peach song rules

kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 6 July 2015 13:53 (five years ago) link

Peachy is riffs galore, and I like how it gets all Sonic Youth at around 3:05 (singles version, not the one I linked to above). I also can't help hearing echoes of the Psychedelic Furs' "India" at around 1:15, but that's probably just a personal problem. I hear as much of the 80s in it as the 90s.

_Rudipherous_, Monday, 6 July 2015 14:13 (five years ago) link

I would have preferred if they hadn't made Roswell's vocals on that song sound like the Go-Go's or whatever they are going for there, not that I hate that sound, but her natural vocal sound suits the song better.

_Rudipherous_, Monday, 6 July 2015 14:15 (five years ago) link

I'm listening to the album and it's pretty funny how this is almost structured to divide ILX, but honestly I think it's better for having the pop side and the more trad US underground rock style

kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 6 July 2015 15:05 (five years ago) link

I don't think of myself as very rock oriented at all, but I like Wolf Alice better in rocking mode. (Almost everything else I've liked this year has been dance pop, indie pop, hipster pop shit, etc.)

_Rudipherous_, Monday, 6 July 2015 15:11 (five years ago) link

You could have a point in general though. If more of ILX pays any attention to this band, that might become clearer.

_Rudipherous_, Monday, 6 July 2015 15:11 (five years ago) link

So wait there are THREE versions of "Bros?"

Wimmels, Tuesday, 7 July 2015 18:56 (five years ago) link

Oh I guess one of these is a remix of some sort. Not sure where this came from but I have it in my iTunes for some reason. Anyone know where this is from? It's pretty nice...

Wimmels, Tuesday, 7 July 2015 18:59 (five years ago) link

The album cover reminds me of one of those old occult/mediumistic photos.

_Rudipherous_, Wednesday, 8 July 2015 15:58 (five years ago) link

one month passes...

hadn't twigged the similarity btw this and Moaning Lisa's Smile.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93jsY-YdZ1s

piscesx, Tuesday, 11 August 2015 18:14 (five years ago) link

this was better than I expected it to be; it's a weird record to be so big. No real poppy hooks; also it's not really a standout for the sort of music it is either, but it's pleasant

akm, Wednesday, 12 August 2015 14:04 (five years ago) link

I listened to this a few days ago after seeing how popular they had become and skimming this thread and I didn't expect it to sound the way it did. It reminds me a lot of Belly at their most introspective.

boxedjoy, Wednesday, 12 August 2015 21:32 (five years ago) link

four months pass...

This is really growing on me.

kornrulez6969, Thursday, 17 December 2015 16:43 (five years ago) link

one month passes...

Fuck I wish I'd listened to this before I submitted my eoy ballot.

how's life, Monday, 18 January 2016 13:28 (five years ago) link

four weeks pass...

#BRITBREAKWOLFALICE

Mark G, Monday, 15 February 2016 09:34 (five years ago) link

http://www.brits.co.uk/british-breakthrough-vote-guide

Mark G, Monday, 15 February 2016 09:35 (five years ago) link

one month passes...

i dig this song!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6vEE3Plk48

scott seward, Saturday, 9 April 2016 01:23 (four years ago) link

i seriously might go buy this album. i love riff rockin' with cool women singers. it must be the veruca salt fan in me.

scott seward, Saturday, 9 April 2016 01:25 (four years ago) link

best video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkghyKKQDss

scott seward, Saturday, 9 April 2016 01:33 (four years ago) link

love this too:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KhC2qNLGd4

scott seward, Saturday, 9 April 2016 01:43 (four years ago) link

this is a great record scott! I hope you like it

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Saturday, 9 April 2016 02:40 (four years ago) link

Some of the live versions of "Giant Peach" are better than the album version, over all. This one for instance:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6-wbuON8Qk

(Although the climax is maybe best in the studio version.)

_Rudipherous_, Saturday, 9 April 2016 03:53 (four years ago) link

*overall*

(I am really tired.)

_Rudipherous_, Saturday, 9 April 2016 03:57 (four years ago) link

i ordered the CD online. i got the U.S. version which is slightly different than the U.K. version? Just like in the old days.

scott seward, Saturday, 9 April 2016 04:00 (four years ago) link

This is my favorite rock album in awhile.

kornrulez6969, Saturday, 9 April 2016 16:15 (four years ago) link

i had no idea. until the other day.

scott seward, Saturday, 9 April 2016 16:15 (four years ago) link

Really pissed off that I missed out on them last year. They're touring America now, but the only tour stop local to me is at a festival that I can't afford tickets to.

how's life, Saturday, 9 April 2016 17:28 (four years ago) link

They're opening for the 1975 who are apparently playing arenas. How the hell is that happening? Same thing with Alt J, who sold out Madison Square Garden.

kornrulez6969, Saturday, 9 April 2016 22:05 (four years ago) link

they have a sizeable and enthusiastic fanbase

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Saturday, 9 April 2016 22:25 (four years ago) link

i mean i too was surprised but they were selling out everything beneath arenas

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Saturday, 9 April 2016 22:27 (four years ago) link

i even love their cover of wicked game.

scott seward, Sunday, 10 April 2016 14:01 (four years ago) link

sounds so cool. they make it the guitar anthem it was meant to be.

scott seward, Sunday, 10 April 2016 14:02 (four years ago) link

These days, particularly in the type of music Wolf Alice specialise in, I think you can tell by the third or fourth album whether or not a band have shot their bolt or are realising their potential.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Friday, 10 August 2018 21:57 (two years ago) link

their lollapalooza set was some next level shit

Ross, Friday, 10 August 2018 22:38 (two years ago) link

well that covers all the bases

I predict that all future Wolf Alice albums will be exactly as good as this last one, no more, no less.

Matt DC, Saturday, 11 August 2018 09:38 (two years ago) link

Nah, their next album will make it apparent whether they've got a long career ahead of them or whether they've said all they need to say.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Saturday, 11 August 2018 09:56 (two years ago) link

Dunno man. Chvrches have said all they need to say but they’re still churning out serviceable albums. Matt DC otm

Ross, Saturday, 11 August 2018 13:09 (two years ago) link

Hmm. Not sure that I agree with that - my takeaway from the (excellent) album Chvrches released this year is that there's more and better to come.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Saturday, 11 August 2018 17:01 (two years ago) link

I love it too fwiw

Abomination Street (Ross), Sunday, 12 August 2018 01:24 (two years ago) link

A nice antidote to all the hoo-ha about the Reading and Leeds line up being rubbish, last night on the BBC; an hour of Wolf Alice headlining the Radio 1 stage. Storming gig, band on fire, all the hits, fancy lights, disco balls, glitter, the whole bit. At one point they got 2 girls up and one proposed to the other to raucous cheers and applause, then they went into Don't Delete The Kisses. If i was 18 watching that i'm sure i'd have fuckin loved it.

piscesx, Saturday, 25 August 2018 13:14 (two years ago) link

I'll have to ask Alice about it, they are down there this weekend

Mark G, Saturday, 25 August 2018 21:46 (two years ago) link

Some friends' 16-year old son is at Leeds. I suggested Wolf Alice, but he said it clashed with The Wombats. Tsk, kids.

mike t-diva, Sunday, 26 August 2018 10:09 (two years ago) link

Yeah, they were deciding between the Kooks on stage, and the Wombats in the signing tent.

Mark G, Sunday, 26 August 2018 14:09 (two years ago) link

I'm sure Wolf Alice was a green marker event though.

Mark G, Sunday, 26 August 2018 14:10 (two years ago) link

The Winterbottom film is great! I can't believe it isn't better known about. It's streaming on Amazon Prime btw if any of y'all have that.

piscesx, Wednesday, 5 September 2018 09:12 (two years ago) link

two weeks pass...

nice one chaps!

piscesx, Thursday, 20 September 2018 21:15 (two years ago) link

Genuinely surprised!

Mark G, Thursday, 20 September 2018 21:34 (two years ago) link

People will say they were 'due for an Indie one' this year but hey. Ellie Rowsell herself was on the panel a coupla years back 'interestngly'.

piscesx, Thursday, 20 September 2018 21:37 (two years ago) link

one year passes...

Joff has released an album of John Fahey covers to benefit a food bank charity.

https://theface.com/music/wolf-alice-folk-music-joff-oddie-food-bank-fundraiser-trussell-trust

peace, man, Friday, 15 May 2020 12:30 (nine months ago) link

ooh yeah, nice link thanks.

piscesx, Friday, 15 May 2020 19:45 (nine months ago) link

nine months pass...

Their website is teasing something new.

peace, man, Monday, 15 February 2021 21:22 (two weeks ago) link

Ooh.

piscesx, Monday, 15 February 2021 22:20 (two weeks ago) link

I know we've talked about the price of rarities on Ebay but this takes the piss a bit

https://www.ebay.com/itm/WOLF-ALICE-Blush-EP-new-sealed-UK-2013-Chess-Club-10-vinyl-single-NEW/164211912609?hash=item263bcaefa1:g:0OYAAOSwB~ZexgNi

piscesx, Saturday, 20 February 2021 15:01 (one week ago) link

New song premiers tomorrow on Annie Mac during the britishes 18 pm hour (1 pm Eastern Standard Time). Video will be available on youtube the hour after that:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzH6toY_EPw

When they first uploaded the video, there was a link to pre-order 'Blue Weekend' which was quickly taken down. Googling 'Blue Weekend' led me to some people in the film world who had already updated their resumes to include their work on the videos, including this tidbit:

2020 1st AD
Music Video Wolf Alice / Blue Weekend album (11 x music videos) Academy Films

Pretty excited!

peace, man, Tuesday, 23 February 2021 20:10 (one week ago) link

it's up! it's...a weird single choice but still pretty great! is this JM-J on the boards again?

stimmy stimmy yah (Simon H.), Wednesday, 24 February 2021 22:27 (one week ago) link

oh my god that song is fucking amazing

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Wednesday, 24 February 2021 22:35 (one week ago) link

that is the best goddamn song they've ever made

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Wednesday, 24 February 2021 22:49 (one week ago) link

i literally can't remember the last time i listened to a song six times in a row. sometimes when there's a really good 1975 single i guess

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Wednesday, 24 February 2021 23:13 (one week ago) link

I agree with Simon that it seems like a weird 1st single choice, but my impression is that they're giving us a taste of what the album will be like. It's very much a home stretch, end-of-side-b kind of song, and it could easily be a final track, but we know from the track listing that it's the third from the end, so my speculation is that the final two songs will be a real tour-de-force. I dunno, that's just me talking out of my ass.

Don't agree with Brad that it's the best goddamn song they've ever made, but it is definitely a goddamn good song. I listened to it like 6 times in a row too! My thought on that was that it felt unnaturally short to me, if that makes sense? Like, it runs 4:30, which is pretty decent length by pop songs standards, but I felt like I was only in it for 3 minutes or so, and so I kept going back to listen again.

Anyway, I'm stoked. Really happy that they're still together making music. Can't believe that it's almost 4 years since Visions of a Life.

peace, man, Wednesday, 24 February 2021 23:53 (one week ago) link

just remembered that the previous lead single was "yuk foo" so I wouldn't infer too much about the sound of the album yet lmao

stimmy stimmy yah (Simon H.), Thursday, 25 February 2021 00:09 (one week ago) link

this is fine but i'm not really feeling it as much as you all seem to be

ufo, Thursday, 25 February 2021 00:26 (one week ago) link

it's up! it's...a weird single choice but still pretty great! is this JM-J on the boards again?

― stimmy stimmy yah (Simon H.), Wednesday, February 24, 2021 5:27 PM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

Simon, I was just listening to the Annie Mac interview from earlier today and Ellie mentions the producer, but I can't quite hear the last name. Marcus J-something? A little after 13 minutes here:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m000shvj

Also, check out who did the strings.

peace, man, Thursday, 25 February 2021 00:38 (one week ago) link

omfg, king

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 25 February 2021 00:45 (one week ago) link

love the end
mitski style in a good way

nxd, Thursday, 25 February 2021 00:47 (one week ago) link

Paulina S
5 hours ago
Wolf Alice be like “yeah this’ll make them wanna kill themselves.... release it”

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 25 February 2021 00:53 (one week ago) link

Markus Dravs

peace, man, Thursday, 25 February 2021 01:03 (one week ago) link

i don't think even rick ruin could mess up a wolf alice album now they're too good

stimmy stimmy yah (Simon H.), Thursday, 25 February 2021 01:04 (one week ago) link

lol rick ruin

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 25 February 2021 01:05 (one week ago) link

Yeah, I hate this.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 25 February 2021 03:50 (one week ago) link

Markus Dravs

― peace, man, Wednesday, February 24, 2021 6:03 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

one of my favorite producers who is not jmj so phew yay awesome. also no wonder owen's on it

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 25 February 2021 15:00 (one week ago) link

The only thing I really know that he's worked on is Homogenic. I guess now is the time I finally listen to Arcade Fire. Anything else in particular you would recommend?

peace, man, Thursday, 25 February 2021 15:11 (one week ago) link

i am very alone on this board in thinking the florence album he did (how big how blue how beautiful) is her best

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 25 February 2021 15:14 (one week ago) link

also viva la vida is... great... lol

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 25 February 2021 15:14 (one week ago) link

Ok, I will give those a shot. Right now I'm listening to the James album he worked on.

peace, man, Thursday, 25 February 2021 15:18 (one week ago) link

Dravs's first big notable gig was doing the sound design for Derek Jarman's "Blue" (credited to Markus Draws I think). He became Eno's right-hand-man for a while, doing more-than-half the work on James's "Wah Wah", which was the album that inspired AF to hire him for Neon Bible onward. Coldplay had a "we love AF" moment and picked Dravs/Eno to do Viva La Vida, then Dravs was subsequently drafted by Mumford & Sons and Florence; Dravs won a Grammy for the former, iirc. Maybe another one, too, same band or something else. He has another arranger above me on his rolodex (the guy from Goldfrapp, who did Viva La Vida etc.) but we have great personal rapport and I love working with him, I think he's an amazing producer tbh.

flamboyant goon tie included, Thursday, 25 February 2021 15:33 (one week ago) link

Oh yeah, and Dravs did most of Homogenic, and much of Vespertine iirc

flamboyant goon tie included, Thursday, 25 February 2021 15:37 (one week ago) link

damn that is one hell of a CV

stimmy stimmy yah (Simon H.), Thursday, 25 February 2021 15:41 (one week ago) link

I seem to remember him telling me that the mid-00s Merz albums he produced were his own favourites of the work he's done, I haven't listened but I should

Anyway Wolf Alice rules

flamboyant goon tie included, Thursday, 25 February 2021 15:45 (one week ago) link

Thanks, fgti!

peace, man, Thursday, 25 February 2021 15:52 (one week ago) link

“It’s about the arrogance of humans,” said Rowsell, explaining the lyrics. “I’d just read Kurt Vonnegut’s Cat’s Cradle and I had written the line ‘Peculiar travel suggestions are dancing lessons from god’ in my notes. But then I thought: ‘Uh, your peculiar travel suggestion isn’t a dancing lesson from god, it’s just a travel suggestion! Why does everything need to mean something more?’”

i don't mean to start stanning for this band but this is exactly what i'd write a song about

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 25 February 2021 16:03 (one week ago) link

oh i never realised dravs worked on homogenic - he seems to be credited with engineering & programming, not production, so that's why i'd never noticed

ufo, Thursday, 25 February 2021 19:00 (one week ago) link

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson) at 9:14 25 Feb 21

i am very alone on this board in thinking the florence album he did (how big how blue how beautiful) is her best

not alone!

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 25 February 2021 19:06 (one week ago) link


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