do you have tinnitus ?

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most of us probably love it louder than we should.
so, do you have that ring in your inner ear ?

Poll Results

OptionVotes
yes - a little, but it's ok .. 33
no - i adhere to the good hearing regulations and have never had a problem .. 19
yes - a lot, but i accept it for the life i have lived .. 12
yes - a little, buts it's becoming a concern .. 10
yes - a lot, it's not f*cking fair, one gig by MBV/Swans/Tackhead, and that was it .. 2
yes - but i care not .. 1


mark e, Thursday, 18 June 2015 21:22 (two years ago) Permalink

Needs 'not yet' option.

The Manner of Crawly (Tom D.), Thursday, 18 June 2015 21:24 (two years ago) Permalink

fuck.

mark e, Thursday, 18 June 2015 21:24 (two years ago) Permalink

yes, a lot, it's a fucking pain

also totally unrelated to my music listening, however.

Οὖτις, Thursday, 18 June 2015 21:24 (two years ago) Permalink

Oweirdchars : what caused yours ?

mark e, Thursday, 18 June 2015 21:26 (two years ago) Permalink

there is no cause

my coping with this is documented in painful detail here: Shakey Mo's thread of misery

Οὖτις, Thursday, 18 June 2015 21:29 (two years ago) Permalink

okedoke .. sorry .. missed that.

mark e, Thursday, 18 June 2015 21:29 (two years ago) Permalink

I think mine was an anxiety symptom. I don't have it much anymore.

jmm, Thursday, 18 June 2015 21:33 (two years ago) Permalink

Should be a "don't think so" option; I notice something very minor every once in a while. I've never been one for gigs or clubs though, and obviously I'm pretty pro quality rather than volume at home.

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 18 June 2015 21:38 (two years ago) Permalink

quite a bit, much of it probably just attrition but i think a lot comes from when i saw not mbv not dinosaur jr not swans but the fucking flaming lips in their balloons and confetti phase. a few days of having everything sound like it was pitched up a tone or two

Merdeyeux, Thursday, 18 June 2015 21:39 (two years ago) Permalink

mine kicks in more when stressed.
of course the worst times are after a booze fuelled gig night, but those are few and far between these days.
so, i guess i am lucky given my age and noise excess.
to have it kick in without rhyme or reason must be infuriating.
i have always blamed my low level groove on too much on-u sound/1987 swans gig, but the fact is, it was probably my love for my pseudo-walkman in 1987, and i was one of very few back then.
the next generation of adults are truly f&cked.
and deaf.

mark e, Thursday, 18 June 2015 21:41 (two years ago) Permalink

Some, based on too much time spent in small practice spaces with idiotic fucking guitarists who stand right in front of their amps turned up to welding levels because they can't hear it properly as the sound whistles past their calves pointed straight at me on the other side of the room. Dicks.

MaresNest, Thursday, 18 June 2015 21:57 (two years ago) Permalink

Moved to a new place recently. Old place was about half a block from the interstate, and traffic noise was a constant background drone. No traffic noise at the new place; for the first few nights, and occasionally since, I'll have a faint ringing in my right ear, which the traffic noise either drowned out or otherwise had masked. Since the ringing comes and goes, and never gets worse, I'm ok with it.

I also got a hearing test done just before moving to the new place, and the audiologist said I have "perfect hearing," which I absolutely should not have (years of drums, guitar, and bass, plus all of the above with headphones and without earplugs for a number of years).

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 19 June 2015 00:07 (two years ago) Permalink

sounds like you have had a lucky groove MBJ !
if i am in a place of ambient silence then i get to hear a never ending FAX styled drone.
i have decided to accept and love my drone, but the fact is it's always there ...

mark e, Friday, 19 June 2015 00:13 (two years ago) Permalink

voted "yes - a lot, but i accept it for the life i have lived .."

a stupidly loud Gary Numan show a year or so back has created even more permanent damage in my left ear, a more low-pitched fluttery sound, not like the typical tinnitus whine.

sleeve, Friday, 19 June 2015 00:14 (two years ago) Permalink

I got a temporary low frequency hum in my left ear after listening to music one night a few years ago, it was the first time I'd experienced such a thing and that shocked me enough into listening to music at reasonable volumes on headphones.

You’re being too simplistic and you’re insulting my poor heart (Turrican), Friday, 19 June 2015 00:33 (two years ago) Permalink

in the daytime it's okay, at night it's an issue once or twice a year - I've spent a few near-sleepless nights due to tinnitus. despite using earplugs since age 13, ugh.

Sharkie, Friday, 19 June 2015 14:21 (two years ago) Permalink

I have a mildlish ringing/whistling in my ears that is fairly easy to ignore - notice it mostly when I'm wearing ear plugs, funnily enough.

Pretty much always wear ear protection at gigs these days, after seeing Maryanne Amacher give an ear-piercing live performance a few years ago that left me with very loud ear whistling for three or four days afterwards - really thought I'd fucked my hearing for good, so when it subsided I resolved never to risk it in that way again.

sʌxihɔːl (Ward Fowler), Friday, 19 June 2015 14:36 (two years ago) Permalink

Good to hear that you got a second chance, Ward. I wrongly decided last November that a Nils Frahm show didn't merit the need for earplugs. Both ears have been ringing ever since then. Word: if the bass frequencies are making your clothes move, it's prolly a good idea to protect your hearing.

Am just happy that the hyperacusis stopped after about three months. That was a particular bitch to endure.

doug watson, Friday, 19 June 2015 14:47 (two years ago) Permalink

I have it, right around the frequency of crash cymbals/microphone feedback (gee, wonder where I got it?), and it is not generally a problem unless I hit a trigger frequency. A nice microphone feedback blast will have me miserable for at least a half day; one big surprise was that I had to get the hell out of an unamplified classical flute recital at intermission recently -- I was getting increasingly annoyed at the loud air conditioning when it occurred to me that there wasn't any air conditioner running at all that cold evening. A bummer because I had been enjoying the concert.

Three Word Username, Friday, 19 June 2015 15:05 (two years ago) Permalink

I have it; a very high-pitched, low-level tone that I hear more if I plug my ears with my fingers or if I'm in a very quiet room. Since I've mostly given up going to non-jazz shows, and wear earplugs when I do, I don't really foresee it becoming more of a problem in later life than it already is.

the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Friday, 19 June 2015 15:15 (two years ago) Permalink

"yes - a little, but it's ok .." but every time I have a cold or go to a gig I spend a few days in the "yes - a little, buts it's becoming a concern .." category, feeling regretful and wondering if I might have to stop seeing live music at all one day soonish.

And yes, I wear earplugs at gigs (mostly).

undergraduate dance (a passing spacecadet), Friday, 19 June 2015 15:35 (two years ago) Permalink

I have it, right around the frequency of crash cymbals/microphone feedback (gee, wonder where I got it?)

it's my understanding the low frequencies are what cause the most actual hearing damage. I have the "4k notch" that's most common; I found my tinnitus unbearable when it first set in, had a total mental collapse. it was devastating. now it's much worse but I bear it gladly!

Joan Crawford Loves Chachi, Friday, 19 June 2015 15:37 (two years ago) Permalink

not yet. I go to loud rock shows pretty infrequently (though my ears have suffered many a noise set) & wear earplugs when I do.

example (crüt), Friday, 19 June 2015 15:40 (two years ago) Permalink

now it's much worse but I bear it gladly!

more info please.
why gladly ?
as i have said, i have come to accept my low level drone, so far it has remained persistent for years, if it got worse, then i am not sure how i would cope.

mark e, Friday, 19 June 2015 15:41 (two years ago) Permalink

it's my understanding the low frequencies are what cause the most actual hearing damage.

I'd heard this too. John Entwistle incurred more hearing damage than Pete Townshend. But unlike Townshend, instead of turning down or altering his setup (or going public about the dangers of loud music), he kept turning up and using bigger/louder equipment to compensate for what he could no longer hear. In the five or six years before his death, he was stone deaf.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 19 June 2015 15:43 (two years ago) Permalink

I'm not that deaf! The tinnitus is pretty minor and frequency-specific in my case.

Three Word Username, Friday, 19 June 2015 16:12 (two years ago) Permalink

more info please.
why gladly ?

well, it's really the only way, for me -- I feel about it like I feel about a scar. I had the fun I wanted to have, this is part of that, I would probably do it the same way again. getting tinnitus was an incredibly difficult emotional experience for me and accepting it as part of how I am -- the way I'd gladly bear a missing digit and learn to work around it, incorporate it into how I worked -- was important for me.

above that, though, I turned the corner when I learned that the texture of some instruments, especially piano, sound incredibly different to me now that I'm missing a lot of information at & around 4k: they sound better. I hear piano as I never did before, and experience some chord constructions (major sevenths especially) as much bigger than I did before. they just sound denser, richer, than they did. I guess there's a possibility that's not related to the tinnitus but to changes in taste...but honestly, two months into it I sat down at the piano and just happened to play a maj7 and it landed on me like this giant revelation from God. it had a texture I'd never heard before, even though I've been playing maj7s for years. once that happened I began to listen to stuff with a curious ear for how it was registering for me, and noted that an absence in my hearing meant (again, for me, I don't know if this is true for anybody else) basically a new playfield in some ways. it's still a loss! but it's an interesting loss to me now, which is all the difference.

Joan Crawford Loves Chachi, Friday, 19 June 2015 16:12 (two years ago) Permalink

above that, though, I turned the corner when I learned that the texture of some instruments, especially piano, sound incredibly different to me now that I'm missing a lot of information at & around 4k: they sound better. I hear piano as I never did before, and experience some chord constructions (major sevenths especially) as much bigger than I did before. they just sound denser, richer, than they did. I guess there's a possibility that's not related to the tinnitus but to changes in taste...but honestly, two months into it I sat down at the piano and just happened to play a maj7 and it landed on me like this giant revelation from God. it had a texture I'd never heard before, even though I've been playing maj7s for years.

this makes sense - a lot of dissonant/clashing harmonics occur around 4kHz when you're working with fundamental frequencies around the mid-range of the piano, so cluster harmonies become more sonorous if those frequencies are attenuated

I'm not 100% sure about that but it rings true (iykwim) to me

example (crüt), Friday, 19 June 2015 16:20 (two years ago) Permalink

also seventh chords are just the greatest generally

example (crüt), Friday, 19 June 2015 16:22 (two years ago) Permalink

I like how Leo Fender in the 80s was losing his hearing but still designing pickups. One theory is that his hearing problems led him toward ever brighter and treblier sounds. He was convinced that what musicians wanted was more high end, but it may have been because that was all he could hear. Richard Smith writes in The Sound Heard Round the World" "Leo's reliance on diminished hearing led to pickups that sounded too shrill."

His background was with Country pedal steels and lap steels, where twang is king, then moved on to the twangtastic Telecaster, whose bridge pickups are definitely on the trebly end - some, painfully so. He didn't play guitar but knew what he liked, and what he liked was twang.

Some was apparently just plain stubbornness. Smith again: "He had problems taking advice if he had already set his mind on some feature or tone... several musicians preferred a pickup with less highs... more often than not Leo made the instruments he preferred, and they sounded the way he liked.... [while at G&L) Leo believed players needed even more highs than the Telecaster produced."

Ye Mad Puffin, Friday, 19 June 2015 18:15 (two years ago) Permalink

I have a high pitched ring that I hear at night when everything is quiet. Otherwise I never noticed it.

I always stuff some tissue paper in my ears at gigs.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Friday, 19 June 2015 19:54 (two years ago) Permalink

the only time i stuffed tissue into my ears was at a mark stewart/mafia gig.

bloody glad i did ..

mark e, Friday, 19 June 2015 20:27 (two years ago) Permalink

I actually have some mid-range dips, which I'm told is unusual, in addition to the dreaded NIHL.
Generally avoid obscenely loud stuff, unfortunately found myself at Metz at SXSW with no earplugs. Ugh.

campreverb, Monday, 22 June 2015 16:54 (two years ago) Permalink

practicing (rock music) loudly in a small room with a hardwood floor, close proximity to the crash cymbal would exacerbate the condition substantially.. that, in combination with loud amps. but it was the cymbals that usually had me wincing. and then all of the shows attended over the years until i started using protection (a little over ten years ago). I often get the sort of 'drop out' in one ear, followed by a high pitched sound that gradually diminishes.

braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Monday, 22 June 2015 17:12 (two years ago) Permalink

I was so concerned about seeing MBV several years back that I purchased ear muffs (for shooting), and used them along with ear plugs for the "holocaust" part of you made me realize.

braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Monday, 22 June 2015 17:15 (two years ago) Permalink

it was a pleasant body massage. I've read that your ears can become damaged by simply exposing your body (face, etc.) to loud sound, not just your ears.

braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Monday, 22 June 2015 17:21 (two years ago) Permalink

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperacusis

i often wonder if this is the case, as my friends who play/practice rock music regularly do not seem to experience the same sensitivity. i usually have to plug my ears to impede the squeal of bus breaks, or passing ambulance sirens etc.

braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Monday, 22 June 2015 17:25 (two years ago) Permalink

bus brakes, rather. apologies for the quintuple post

braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Monday, 22 June 2015 17:28 (two years ago) Permalink

I get chills when I see the work 'hyperacusis' and I think of poor Jason DiEmillo of Asuza Plane.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/joycecohen/noise-kills-when-everyday-sound-becomes-torture#.otjAlwPAX

MaresNest, Monday, 22 June 2015 17:43 (two years ago) Permalink

wow. thank you for posting that

braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Monday, 22 June 2015 18:37 (two years ago) Permalink

whenever I get sad about all the shows I never went to growing up I try to remember how lucky I am to have at least OK hearing now because of it.

skip, Monday, 22 June 2015 18:45 (two years ago) Permalink

no - by some miracle despite having been at several of the loudest concerts in the history of music and spending my entire adult working life in extremely loud environments i don't have it.

my hearing however is bad.

stirmonster, Monday, 22 June 2015 19:21 (two years ago) Permalink

xp i missed the minutemen twice at the seventh street entry when i was in the first flush of my fandom and it's prob the biggest concert regret of my life. BUT i was told D's telecaster was ridiculously ridiculously loud so maybe my tinnitus would be even worse if id made those shows...

demonic mnevice (Jon Lewis), Monday, 22 June 2015 20:50 (two years ago) Permalink

Only attended two concerts that left my ears ringing before I invested in audiophile earplugs. Fortunately, those two were Curve and MBV, so no regrets.

We'd like to conduct a wobulator test here (Sanpaku), Tuesday, 23 June 2015 04:48 (two years ago) Permalink

It was Fuck Buttons in 2010 that got me to get high quality ear plugs.

What bugs more than the tinnitus is the noticeable attenuation/loss of hearing around the 6-8khz band in one ear.

octobeard, Tuesday, 23 June 2015 05:32 (two years ago) Permalink

PARDON?

hardcore dilettante, Tuesday, 23 June 2015 05:34 (two years ago) Permalink

(never gets old)

hardcore dilettante, Tuesday, 23 June 2015 05:35 (two years ago) Permalink

After years and years of punishment (Swans, On-U, MBV, Merzbow, Astro, Sunn, a million other things) and only the odd very light and short burst of tinnitus, after seeing Jiri Wehle (a Czech pensioner singing quiet fairy stories) and Afework Nigussie (an Azmari guy on solo masenqo) a couple of weeks ago I have been left with a blocked feeling in my left ear which makes everything sound like it's underwater. I'd read somebody else's similar story before, that it was something innocuous that caused their first big hearing problem, so it's earplugs from here on it for me.

the bowels are not what they seem (aldo), Tuesday, 23 June 2015 08:55 (two years ago) Permalink

I suffer from moderate tinnitus and hyperacusis, my symptoms can vary from totally unnoticeable to "so bad I can't get out of bed" on any given day. It's a struggle but I'm dealing with it.

I just want to point out that the Buzzfeed article above is quite negative and may not be the best introduction to the subject for someone with recently developed hearing problems -- I would quite seriousl post a warning by the link.

One of the major issues with tinnitus is the difficulty of getting proper practical advice -- between your GP being "lol deal with it" and sensationalist Daily Mail/Buzzfeed articles about suicide, it can make you feel rather hopeless when there's actually good information out there. (e.g. this book.

Chuck_Tatum, Wednesday, 24 June 2015 07:29 (one year ago) Permalink

Don't know what's happened but since the weekend I'm experiencing noticeable hearing loss and certain frequencies like dialing tones and dishes clanking together sound unbearable. Hoping this rights itself pretty damn soon.

I ain't got no bites / Bad itches is the only thing that I like (dog latin), Wednesday, 24 June 2015 08:41 (one year ago) Permalink

After years and years of punishment (Swans, On-U, MBV, Merzbow, Astro, Sunn, a million other things) and only the odd very light and short burst of tinnitus, after seeing Jiri Wehle (a Czech pensioner singing quiet fairy stories) and Afework Nigussie (an Azmari guy on solo masenqo) a couple of weeks ago I have been left with a blocked feeling in my left ear which makes everything sound like it's underwater. I'd read somebody else's similar story before, that it was something innocuous that caused their first big hearing problem, so it's earplugs from here on it for me.

― the bowels are not what they seem (aldo), Tuesday, June 23, 2015 9:55 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

It could just be wax that's come dislodge and is blocking a pathway. Your GP can fix this in seconds.

I ain't got no bites / Bad itches is the only thing that I like (dog latin), Wednesday, 24 June 2015 08:42 (one year ago) Permalink

Good point dl, I am due at the docs soon anyway.

the bowels are not what they seem (aldo), Wednesday, 24 June 2015 10:21 (one year ago) Permalink

Sounds more like sinusitis or similar than tinnitus. One of those Netipot or over the counter nose-squirty-sniffy things might help. (They wouldn't hurt.) I'd avoid ear drops until your doctor's had a look though.

Chuck_Tatum, Wednesday, 24 June 2015 12:53 (one year ago) Permalink

Re: earplugs, it's just not worth the potential consequence not to use earplugs. Maybe not in yr early 20s but 30s, 40s, 50s, definitely. I recommend the Alpine Music Pro plugs - they're very good, not irritating.

Chuck_Tatum, Wednesday, 24 June 2015 12:55 (one year ago) Permalink

I think the loudest show I ever went to (or loudest seeming) was Firehose. My bandmate who is a sound guy said the loudest he ever supported was Sugar; I've seen Mould in several settings that were loud but not painful.

Ye Mad Puffin, Wednesday, 24 June 2015 15:54 (one year ago) Permalink

Sugar seems to be a really very common reference point, more so than HD or even the other early 90s bands save Dino and MBV - there's some story about Mould going to bed with the TV snow whacked up full blast

Master of Treacle, Wednesday, 24 June 2015 16:56 (one year ago) Permalink

Xpost edfromohio was trying to live up to the treble crown of d boon

demonic mnevice (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 24 June 2015 20:06 (one year ago) Permalink

Loved Firehose, Sugar, Dino at the time but all I can now is fuck 'em all for being so stupid loud.

doug watson, Wednesday, 24 June 2015 20:41 (one year ago) Permalink

I can see why, say, Swans want to be so loud as some trance-inducing full body experience, but fucking Sugar? Turn it down, dudes.

that's why god destroyed the radio (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Thursday, 25 June 2015 22:42 (one year ago) Permalink

this thread sort of rekindled my interest in my tinnitus. been wearing earplugs on the subway recently

i am going to get acupuncture for it at some point in the mid-term future; can report back if anyone is interested in an anecdote as to whether it worked

unknown pleasure zone (uptown churl), Thursday, 25 June 2015 23:53 (one year ago) Permalink

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Friday, 26 June 2015 00:01 (one year ago) Permalink

I don't have tinnitus and i'm grateful everyday. I remember nights djing where i'd turn headphones up to full because I couldn't hear them over the speakers. I did once review a sun 0))) gig from outside the building they played, which was prudent.

Popture, Friday, 26 June 2015 00:10 (one year ago) Permalink

Against all odds, no I don't.

a strawman stuffed with their collection of 12 cds (jjjusten), Friday, 26 June 2015 01:04 (one year ago) Permalink

i am going to get acupuncture for it at some point in the mid-term future; can report back if anyone is interested in an anecdote as to whether it worked

I'm interested. Mine isn't so bad that it bothers me - I have taken care to wear earplugs at shows for the past twenty years, though, after some pretty deafening shows. But definitely interested in knowing if there's anything to acupuncture helping that.

that's why god destroyed the radio (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Friday, 26 June 2015 02:06 (one year ago) Permalink

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Saturday, 27 June 2015 00:01 (one year ago) Permalink

i'm one of the two who voted "yes - a lot, it's not f*cking fair, one gig by MBV/Swans/Tackhead, and that was it ..." i saw MBV twice in three days for the Loveless tour. also stuff like Flaming Lips, Built to Spill, Spiritualized ect...

Bee OK, Saturday, 27 June 2015 02:48 (one year ago) Permalink

six months pass...

I think I have this now--been noticing it for the past two weeks every night when I watch TV. What I've read matches what I'm experiencing exactly. I'm at least relieved to find out how common and how to-be-expected it is.

clemenza, Wednesday, 30 December 2015 02:35 (one year ago) Permalink

all it took was being up close at one lightning bolt show

BringTheAuBonPain, Wednesday, 30 December 2015 03:34 (one year ago) Permalink

I've never even heard of Tackhead

small doug yule carnival club (unregistered), Wednesday, 30 December 2015 03:39 (one year ago) Permalink

I've never even heard of Tackhead

aka the mafia (as in mark stewarts backing band after the pop group), on-u sound system etc.
in the late pre-major label era, 80s with adrian sherwood on the live mix, they made a noise like i had never experienced before.
bass booms, shrieking top end industrial noise distortion, with drums that rattled the innards.
fantastic stuff.

mark e, Wednesday, 30 December 2015 19:42 (one year ago) Permalink

one month passes...

Does this come and go? Sometimes it's there, sometimes not. Is it more that it's ever-present, I'm just not, for whatever reason (idle thoughts about something else, etc.), always aware of it?

clemenza, Saturday, 30 January 2016 20:04 (one year ago) Permalink

There is no way to objectively measure tinnitus really. And it presents in a wide variety of ways.

Οὖτις, Saturday, 30 January 2016 20:50 (one year ago) Permalink

With me it's always there, more pronounced at times (like when I have a head cold). I can tune it out for days at a time, but I'm always aware of it. Weird thing is, when I first acknowledged to myself that it was a permanent condition, it stopped being a problem. My anxiety was really more about finding the right treatment options, rather than the T itself.

henry s, Saturday, 30 January 2016 21:22 (one year ago) Permalink

About once every week or two, I experience a ringing for ~5 seconds that slowly tapers in amplitude until it's gone. I assume that's tinnitus.

Toof Seteltha (Sufjan Grafton), Saturday, 30 January 2016 22:26 (one year ago) Permalink

Also worse with head colds for me. At its best I don't notice it unless I'm in a really silent room.

Three Word Username, Saturday, 30 January 2016 22:31 (one year ago) Permalink

xpost - I get that 5-10 second ringing too, on top of the tinnitus. Usually once a day or so. The temporary ringing is a bit different, certainly more pronounced than the ongoing tinnitus I deal with.

henry s, Saturday, 30 January 2016 22:58 (one year ago) Permalink

That 5-10 second thing used to worry me - like one day it will start ringing and then never stop. It's probably normal though.

skip, Sunday, 31 January 2016 03:27 (one year ago) Permalink

I get that too, same worry. blocking the ear with my finger helps a lot, seems to equalize it

the 'major tom guy' (sleeve), Sunday, 31 January 2016 03:33 (one year ago) Permalink

one year passes...

I knew it was probably overcautious to bring earplugs to a Mark Eitzel gig and they were new ones, I haven't been to a gig since 2013. They were called Thunderplugs and the guy who sold me them was really enthusiastic about them.

I put them in minutes before the support band came on, it sounded way too muffled, but then I couldn't get one of them out my ear. The more I tried, the further it got lodged in my ear, I couldn't get the fucker out, it was painful the whole night and I was really pissed off that could have happened so easily. This probably sounds like I stupidly shoved them in but I really didn't.

My mother picked it out with tweezers and it was difficult, painful, and a little scary. To think I was considering trying small scissors to grip the little tube in the centre if we didn't have tweezers.

Thunderplugs went in the bin. I'm going to look for plugs closer to the older plate style but I'm honestly not sure how much I need them, I never go to anything brutally loud except one Swans gig that wasn't as loud as feared. It's impossible to measure how much you'll need earplugs for this or that gig.

Has this happened to anyone else or do I just have huge gaping earholes?

Robert Adam Gilmour, Monday, 13 March 2017 00:30 (three months ago) Permalink

Hasn't happened to me but it was always a fear I had. I only really use the cylindrical or bullet-shaped foam ones you roll until they're thin and then insert.

I cut this hair, I wash this hair, I mess this hair up (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Tuesday, 14 March 2017 08:00 (three months ago) Permalink

Have you tried Elacin ER20s? As a tinnitus sufferer, my days of going to see Dinosaur Jr are over, however at the gigs I do attend I always wear plugs. If the gig is quieter than expected with the ER20s you can always pull them out slightly. I think the only gigs I've not needed plugs at is Magnetic​ Fields because Stephen Merritt has hyperacusis he keeps the volume down.

Grantman, Wednesday, 15 March 2017 21:44 (three months ago) Permalink

They look easier to pull out because they have longer tubes but I'd prefer something more like the older plate ones, if they still make them.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Wednesday, 15 March 2017 23:08 (three months ago) Permalink

I have trouble with ear plugs too. A lot of shows I go to I seem to spend more time fiddling with them than enjoying the band. I walk out of venues wth muffled hearing, not so much because of noise levels, but because I pushed the plugs in so far they compacted all the wax (of which I am a prolific producer.)

henry s, Wednesday, 15 March 2017 23:23 (three months ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...

Anyone try this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajb37ie-Juo

DJI, Wednesday, 5 April 2017 19:38 (two months ago) Permalink

Sounds temporary at best, but sometimes even temporary relief is helpful...

DJI, Wednesday, 5 April 2017 19:41 (two months ago) Permalink

I've done something like that before but my tinnitus isn't that bad, so I didn't notice much difference.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Wednesday, 5 April 2017 19:44 (two months ago) Permalink

I'll probably try this at some point, but I'm not expecting much and anyway, I've reached an understanding with my tinnitus. You have to kind of fall in love with those things you can't change, otherwise they will drive you crazy. I don't say this when I have a cold and it gets worse, but normally it's a pure, consistent sound that isn't so hard to deal with. Maybe others have it worse.

henry s, Wednesday, 5 April 2017 19:55 (two months ago) Permalink

Have any of you tried the background noise generator myNoise.net?

Commence blatant fawning: It's an incredible collection of about 150 soundscapes, field recordings, drones, music, background chatter, machine sounds, white noise, etc., each made up of 10 different tracks with individual volume sliders, randomizers and presets for endless variety and fine tuning.

They have several generators specifically geared toward tinnitus (see the section called Synthetic Noises), but listener testimonials on many of the soundscapes claim varying amounts of tinnitus relief. It does seem that every testimonial is for a different combo of sounds and volumes, so you'll probably have to try a bit of everything to find one that might work for you.

Hideous Lump, Thursday, 6 April 2017 04:10 (two months ago) Permalink

Can someone precis the video - it's region blocked

Sat in a pub with friends last night when, dead on 8pm, a DJ started up and suddenly nobody could hear anybody else. The ringing is bad today.

koogs, Saturday, 8 April 2017 13:03 (two months ago) Permalink

lying in bed this morning at about 5:30 listening to the birds waking up and something clicked and the tinnitus got suddenly louder and changed frequency (to one that masked out about half of the birdsong). it's grim. i hope it stops.

tons of batshit tinnitus 'cures' on youtube.

koogs, Thursday, 20 April 2017 20:06 (two months ago) Permalink

see an ent as soon as you can (make sure that includes a hearing test with an audiologist)

the tests you undergo are simple hearing tests so it's nothing painful

i n f i n i t y (∞), Thursday, 20 April 2017 20:44 (two months ago) Permalink

i do wonder how on earth (ho ho) kevin martin copes with his gigs as 'the bug' as they are supposedly insanely loud.

never seen him mention anything re ear protection.

/oldmanconcern.

mark e, Thursday, 20 April 2017 20:57 (two months ago) Permalink

maybe he was already deaf after years in metal bands in his youth

Odysseus, Thursday, 20 April 2017 21:00 (two months ago) Permalink

cosign mynoise.net, it's amazing

People like Malcolm X, Martin Luther King, Jr, and (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Friday, 21 April 2017 04:19 (two months ago) Permalink

doctor reckons, and i hope, that my recent noise upturn is related to recent / ongoing cold / sore throat / etc. and that antibiotics will clear it all up.

it's still there, still as loud, but it now sounds like it's more to the left than it was.

koogs, Thursday, 4 May 2017 21:04 (one month ago) Permalink

doctor reckons, and i hope, that my recent noise upturn is related to recent / ongoing cold / sore throat / etc. and that antibiotics will clear it all up.

every time i get a lurgy, the inner ear buzz increases.
hopefully once you are clear it will subside to a more acceptable level.

mark e, Thursday, 4 May 2017 21:56 (one month ago) Permalink

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2017/may/05/inspiral-carpets-drummer-craig-gill-inquest-tinnitus

"Inspiral Carpets drummer killed himself after 20 years of 'unbearable' tinnitus"

koogs, Saturday, 6 May 2017 14:37 (one month ago) Permalink

That's awful. Stories like this used to keep me awake way more than the actual tinnitus when it first set in. Then I would look at people like Neil Young, who must have it as bad as anybody, and he gets by. Made me think there was a way to make peace with this thing. And there is. Like Steve Martin (another sufferer) said, "you just get used to it."

henry s, Saturday, 6 May 2017 15:11 (one month ago) Permalink


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