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These guys are deserving of your attention if you enjoy heavy rock / metal. Power trio from New England.



calstars, Saturday, 4 April 2015 11:52 (four years ago) Permalink

I specialize in elder law

sʌxihɔːl (Ward Fowler), Sunday, 5 April 2015 08:58 (four years ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

Listened to the album with live jazz in the background and it sounded a little like King Crimson

calstars, Friday, 24 April 2015 21:47 (four years ago) Permalink

two years pass...

whoa I didn't know there's an Elder thread!

LORE is one of the great rock records of the decade.

and live, the band is *jaw-dropping*

alpine static, Sunday, 30 April 2017 22:20 (two years ago) Permalink


o. nate, Monday, 1 May 2017 00:07 (two years ago) Permalink

Wow this band is good

I like music from the Elder

blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 1 May 2017 00:19 (two years ago) Permalink

they are incredible. and young!

second-best set i saw at last year's Psycho Las Vegas (behind Tribulation).

alpine static, Monday, 1 May 2017 00:35 (two years ago) Permalink

I effused over Elder on one of the year-end metal poll threads, but I didn't know they had their own thread, haha. Never seen them live, and I live an hour from Boston. Also I had to buy my copy of Lore from Germany because I couldn't figure out how to get one from Armageddon Shop, which is within a three hour drive for me. I kind of hope this new one comes out on a real label instead of an underground record shop.

Guy Pidgeotto (Tom Violence), Monday, 1 May 2017 04:54 (two years ago) Permalink

Pedal steel on the new one

calstars, Monday, 1 May 2017 10:45 (two years ago) Permalink

it's funny these guys aren't more well known...seem like they would appeal to ppl who like Baroness, Mastodon or Pallbearer

blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 2 May 2017 18:31 (two years ago) Permalink

I listen to them more than the first two of those, tbh. Haven't heard the new one yet, though.

My Body's Made of Crushed Little Evening Stars (Sund4r), Tuesday, 2 May 2017 18:32 (two years ago) Permalink

To my ears they're in the same league as those three in terms of accessibility and mainstream appeal so yeah, not sure. They probably just need to stick around a bit longer and have some luck with publicity etc.

calstars, Tuesday, 2 May 2017 20:43 (two years ago) Permalink

they aspire to the ranks of wobbler imho



reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 2 May 2017 20:54 (two years ago) Permalink

Pre-order is just $10, and they'll ship it the week before release: http://armageddonlabel.bigcartel.com/product/elder-reflections-of-a-floating-world-cd-digipack

Fastnbulbous, Wednesday, 3 May 2017 13:34 (two years ago) Permalink

Thanks fast
Maybe I should buy this on cassette, I bet it would sound great

calstars, Wednesday, 3 May 2017 13:49 (two years ago) Permalink

All four albums, plus the highly recommended Spires Burn EP are all available on the site too. Even back in 2012 seeing them live was life changing. They hit the fuzzy sweet spot and massage it with sub-bass tones like no other. I don't know why another label hasn't snatched them up, perhaps Elder prefer it this way? Would love it if they brought somewhat under appreciated Boston area band Magic Circle on their next US tour -- two very different approaches to doom.

Fastnbulbous, Wednesday, 3 May 2017 13:58 (two years ago) Permalink

I'm on my second listen of a preview stream of the new one, very happy with it.

Can also get dls of previous albums here: https://beholdtheelder.bandcamp.com/album/reflections-of-a-floating-world

Fastnbulbous, Wednesday, 3 May 2017 19:39 (two years ago) Permalink

jealous! Yo hook me up bra

calstars, Wednesday, 3 May 2017 22:08 (two years ago) Permalink

i was a little put off when they sent a stream rather than a d/l ... but i'll get over it (and buy the LP) :)

i don't have time to really type out thoughts on this, but per this band getting a break, getting good pub, snatched up by a label, putting stuff out thru Armageddon, etc. ... i have my suspicions that they have a pretty atypical view of all that stuff (i.e. the business of being in a band).

i interviewed Nick once but didn't talk to him about it. if i ever get another chance, i'd ask him.

alpine static, Wednesday, 3 May 2017 23:34 (two years ago) Permalink


calstars, Sunday, 7 May 2017 22:41 (two years ago) Permalink

from: https://beholdtheelder.bandcamp.com/album/reflections-of-a-floating-world

Europe/World: www.stickman-records.com/shop/elder-reflections-of-a-floating-world/

North America: Bandcamp is a bully and won't allow us to link directly to another store. Please find the Armageddon Label bigcartel website with a google search. Thanks for nothin, bandcamp.

alpine static, Monday, 8 May 2017 15:08 (two years ago) Permalink

Who even knows what the new one is,
Other kind of music

c (calstars), Saturday, 20 May 2017 00:39 (two years ago) Permalink

Staving off truth

c (calstars), Saturday, 20 May 2017 00:39 (two years ago) Permalink

(Acoustic interludes)

c (calstars), Saturday, 20 May 2017 00:43 (two years ago) Permalink

My apologies for the above...

calstars, Sunday, 21 May 2017 21:29 (two years ago) Permalink

These guise are just my heroes

calstars, Sunday, 21 May 2017 22:22 (two years ago) Permalink

new album is out and fuckin rips

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Friday, 2 June 2017 15:11 (two years ago) Permalink

Would love it if they brought somewhat under appreciated Boston area band Magic Circle on their next US tour -- two very different approaches to doom.

― Fastnbulbous, Wednesday, May 3, 2017 6:58 AM (four weeks ago)

yus. two of my favorite american bands of the now, and i haven't seen either play live. where elder are concerned, i'm somewhat surprised by my own enthusiasm, as i'm not generally a fan of jam-oriented psychedelic rock. they keep their noodles trim & let the riffs do most of the talking, which helps. then again, i find myself loving all them witches, too, so maybe i'm just in jam band denial.

Beetle Juice continued to spit all over our drinks (contenderizer), Friday, 2 June 2017 15:32 (two years ago) Permalink

the cover art of the new album is very "Sacred Bones"

Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 2 June 2017 15:57 (two years ago) Permalink

Have loved these guys since Dead Roots, new is another grade 1 smasher

del esdichado (NickB), Friday, 2 June 2017 16:30 (two years ago) Permalink

I am intrigued - do I need their first two releases, or do they suddenly get a whole lot better with Lore, the two-song EP, and the new one?

grawlix (unperson), Friday, 2 June 2017 16:34 (two years ago) Permalink

You need Dead Roots. I can't count how many times I've spun that LP

Brakhage, Friday, 2 June 2017 16:47 (two years ago) Permalink

Dead Roots Stirring is still my favourite they've done tbh, title song is a major jam

del esdichado (NickB), Friday, 2 June 2017 16:48 (two years ago) Permalink

dead roots stirring and lore are both essential imo. havent heard the new one yet

ciderpress, Friday, 2 June 2017 17:00 (two years ago) Permalink

i mean who is better than this band, heavy/hard-rock-wise? good lord, they're monstrous.

alpine static, Friday, 2 June 2017 18:04 (two years ago) Permalink

I think they hit their stride on the Spires Burn / Release EP and have been on an upward spiral since then

calstars, Friday, 2 June 2017 18:22 (two years ago) Permalink

Not to diminish their early stuff, but they've come a long way

calstars, Friday, 2 June 2017 18:47 (two years ago) Permalink

Bought Lore, Spires Burn/Release, and Reflections of a Floating World on Bandcamp. Maybe I'll spring for the first two later.

grawlix (unperson), Friday, 2 June 2017 18:54 (two years ago) Permalink

i agree w/ calstars, there's a pretty huge leap between Dead Roots Stirring and Lore, imo ... which is more a reflection of Lore's quality than DRS

alpine static, Friday, 2 June 2017 23:28 (two years ago) Permalink

Kinda into this now

i believe that (s)he is sincere (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 3 June 2017 07:39 (two years ago) Permalink

Their 2009 debut isn't chopped liver either. Yeah it's more traditional stoner/doom, but it's fun. I've been lucky enough to see Elder four times now. The first, around 2012, was the loudest. I just jammed in the earplugs and let the sub-bass massage everything down to my hair follicles. I think they go for a more balanced volume level now that they're a bit more intricate. They're touring all over Europe this summer then back in the U.S. in the fall.

No one is better at their particular style. I do kind of think of Wo Fat as their cousins in Texas with more of a swamp/blues element, and an occasional nod to Bitches Brew fusion. After not properly touring the U.S. for their entire existence (again, they're more appreciated in Europe), I'm excited to finally see them in a couple weeks.

I banged out a review late one night.

Fastnbulbous, Saturday, 3 June 2017 12:19 (two years ago) Permalink

okay wow yeah these guys rip... can tell they'd be pummeling live

global tetrahedron, Saturday, 3 June 2017 15:42 (two years ago) Permalink

i've already said this upthread but their set at Psycho Las Vegas last year was literally a jaw-dropping, stupid-grin-making kind of thing. i was absolutely blown away.

alpine static, Saturday, 3 June 2017 16:19 (two years ago) Permalink

These guys have me revisiting Ancestors, who I hadn't listened to in quite a while (their last album is in 2012). Apparently they're currently recording a new one.

grawlix (unperson), Saturday, 3 June 2017 16:49 (two years ago) Permalink

(she sells) sanctuary


reggie (qualmsley), Sunday, 4 June 2017 00:05 (two years ago) Permalink

bless this album

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Sunday, 4 June 2017 18:16 (two years ago) Permalink

"Thousand Hands" is fight my geration's "lonely is the word"

calstars, Wednesday, 7 June 2017 23:43 (two years ago) Permalink

Watching the sunset with E. what could beat this?

calstars, Wednesday, 7 June 2017 23:57 (two years ago) Permalink

Sorry for the psychedelic intrusions : )

calstars, Thursday, 8 June 2017 00:01 (two years ago) Permalink

Sorry to interrupt the hosannas, but I don't know, this seems a bit same-y to me. Now I admit I've only listened to it once so far, but I think the songs on Lore had already started to differentiate themselves a bit more after one listen. It's super-pleasant and accomplished and all, but it seems like they've foregrounded the sonic wallpaper aspects this time around in place of memorable hooks. Hopefully further listening will change my mind.

o. nate, Thursday, 8 June 2017 00:54 (two years ago) Permalink

52 answers w/o a troll
Guesss that's ok

calstars, Thursday, 8 June 2017 01:19 (two years ago) Permalink

Sorry, of course everyone's entitled to their own opinion

calstars, Thursday, 8 June 2017 01:28 (two years ago) Permalink

I wouldn't call that trolling. It's a fair complaint, and when not in the proper mood, I've had similar reservations about both Lore and Reflections. Elder build fascinating sonic journeys out of riffs, shifting textures and melodic fragments, but immediately memorable hooks are scarce. Not absent - more like sneaky. Can see why some might grow bored waiting for the point to arrive.

Beetle Juice continued to spit all over our drinks (contenderizer), Thursday, 8 June 2017 01:58 (two years ago) Permalink

that's funny, earlier today i was thinking about how immediate i found this record compared to its proggy psychy metal peers

adam, Thursday, 8 June 2017 02:29 (two years ago) Permalink

this album

reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 15 June 2017 22:25 (two years ago) Permalink

"blind" is the sequel to "snowblind". holy shit

reggie (qualmsley), Monday, 19 June 2017 18:45 (two years ago) Permalink

Love this band! I actually interviewed Nick a few weeks ago and he was a super interesting dude.


jterich, Monday, 19 June 2017 20:25 (two years ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

my god this album

ciderpress, Wednesday, 5 July 2017 13:08 (one year ago) Permalink

I think staving off truth is the highlight

calstars, Saturday, 15 July 2017 22:15 (one year ago) Permalink

one month passes...

wow, there are a lot of great riffs on this. "The Falling Veil" especially.

jmm, Thursday, 17 August 2017 14:06 (one year ago) Permalink

830 or so in Blind is tops

calstars, Thursday, 24 August 2017 00:38 (one year ago) Permalink

one month passes...

"staving off the truth"!

reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 20 October 2017 16:05 (one year ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...


calstars, Saturday, 11 November 2017 22:12 (one year ago) Permalink

I've listened to Staving Off Truth so many times I've hardly heard the rest of the album yet. When it kicks back in after the long chill part in the middle I just, like, gaze over the canyons and dwell upon my many adventures as a wandering barbarian.

orifex, Saturday, 11 November 2017 22:42 (one year ago) Permalink

Carry on then

calstars, Saturday, 11 November 2017 22:54 (one year ago) Permalink

yep that track is

ciderpress, Sunday, 12 November 2017 00:47 (one year ago) Permalink

Put this on my year-end list for The Wire.

grawlix (unperson), Sunday, 12 November 2017 01:49 (one year ago) Permalink

At over 2200 this album is far and away in the most other collections of things I've bought on Bandcamp. The median being around 100 or less probably.

Noel Emits, Sunday, 12 November 2017 13:25 (one year ago) Permalink

Interesting. They felt pretty small-time / undiscovered when Lore came out (and even after). 2200 is 600 more than any of my shared albums and that includes Pinegrove and Deafheaven.

Is Elder huge?

alpine static, Monday, 13 November 2017 06:56 (one year ago) Permalink

Can you guys explain what these numbers get at? College friend of mine is in the band so I always get a kick out of exploring their success.

tomorrow, Monday, 13 November 2017 18:52 (one year ago) Permalink

It means that 2200+ people have paid to download their album from Bandcamp (including me).

grawlix (unperson), Monday, 13 November 2017 18:54 (one year ago) Permalink

Their later stuff is #great but their high point remains “release,” at least for me

calstars, Saturday, 25 November 2017 01:57 (one year ago) Permalink

As leaves upon the water etc

calstars, Saturday, 25 November 2017 02:07 (one year ago) Permalink

#asttheplanetsrealign etc

calstars, Saturday, 25 November 2017 02:23 (one year ago) Permalink

this fucking band, man

alpine static, Friday, 1 December 2017 05:19 (one year ago) Permalink

They're a hard working band -- I think they've crossed the country four times in the last couple years. Every show I see there's more and more people. A group of five curious friends accompanied me at the one last month, and minds were properly blown. However, they're definitely still underground, as there is a big hurdle to cross over into the more semi-mainstream success of, say, Mastodon, QOTSA or uh, Evanescence. They don't neatly fit into any genre that is fashionable right now.

A good example are the two reviewers from Overkill via BangerTV. Seeing them talk about other music, they are often fairly articulate, but they come off pretty moronic here because they just don't know what to make of Elder. They don't fit into any one convenient bucket of doom, sludge, psych or prog, so they dismiss them as it's outside of their comfort zone.

They remastered their first two albums, and added demos to the first one. I've already bought two different CDs of the first album, but I gladly paid the $7 on Bandcamp for this:


Fastnbulbous, Monday, 4 December 2017 16:02 (one year ago) Permalink

For additional perspective on their sales, here's the report after their first week of sales.


Miss May I sold 4,425, and Eighteen Visions 3,525. I've never even heard of those bands. Elder was the 11th rock/metal entry listed with just 520 albums sold.

Fastnbulbous, Monday, 4 December 2017 16:10 (one year ago) Permalink

Nick also has a 50 track or so public playlist on Spotify.

calstars, Monday, 4 December 2017 18:39 (one year ago) Permalink

...and it’s very mellow, very “the amazing” for lack of a better reference

calstars, Monday, 4 December 2017 19:29 (one year ago) Permalink

I wonder how they calculate numbers for albums that sell in those numbers. It's usually very hard to find credible sales figures for classical recordings that sell even five figures. Is the album only available through Bandcamp?

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Monday, 4 December 2017 19:41 (one year ago) Permalink

"Even six figures" (Reich/Glass numbers) is what I meant.

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Monday, 4 December 2017 19:41 (one year ago) Permalink

five months pass...
one month passes...

i mean who is better than this band, heavy/hard-rock-wise? good lord, they're monstrous.

bless this album

this album

my god this album

this fucking band, man


UK dates from September 30th.

Absolute Unit Delta Plus (Noel Emits), Saturday, 16 June 2018 11:11 (one year ago) Permalink

Every now and then, someone gets out of their head and discovers E

calstars, Monday, 18 June 2018 21:57 (one year ago) Permalink

three months pass...

Annoyed at myself for neglecting to pick up a T-shirt at the London show. Really want a green on black 'embryo' (medium). Help!

the sun-dried raisins of muesli (Noel Emits), Wednesday, 10 October 2018 17:21 (eight months ago) Permalink

I’ve got 2 shirts, one gold on black head in the desert, one blue on black cosmic. Don’t think I’ve seen the one you’re talking about

calstars, Wednesday, 10 October 2018 18:57 (eight months ago) Permalink

I think it's this design but on a black shirt. Looked much better.


the sun-dried raisins of muesli (Noel Emits), Wednesday, 10 October 2018 19:06 (eight months ago) Permalink

Returning to the winter

calstars, Saturday, 20 October 2018 21:24 (eight months ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...


calstars, Saturday, 10 November 2018 20:46 (seven months ago) Permalink

seven months pass...


Brand new EP of experimental, improvised material written and recorded while on tour in Europe in 2018!

Available Spring 2019 as the first record in the new Postwax subscription vinyl series from Blues Funeral Recordings. “

Looks like available on Bandcamp in July but seems to be streaming now : https://open.spotify.com/album/4WD2n2uML96zPjzds22Ykl

calstars, Saturday, 22 June 2019 16:11 (four days ago) Permalink

Nice. I pre-ordered that on Bandcamp but will definitely stream it now.

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Saturday, 22 June 2019 16:41 (four days ago) Permalink

and...it's gone from spotify...

maybe this side project can hold me over until July:


calstars, Tuesday, 25 June 2019 21:08 (yesterday) Permalink

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