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These guys are deserving of your attention if you enjoy heavy rock / metal. Power trio from New England.

http://www.metal-archives.com/images/3/4/1/8/341851.jpg?1407

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nDsO30bUx0

calstars, Saturday, 4 April 2015 11:52 (six years ago) link

I specialize in elder law

sʌxihɔːl (Ward Fowler), Sunday, 5 April 2015 08:58 (six years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Listened to the album with live jazz in the background and it sounded a little like King Crimson

calstars, Friday, 24 April 2015 21:47 (six years ago) link

two years pass...

whoa I didn't know there's an Elder thread!

LORE is one of the great rock records of the decade.

and live, the band is *jaw-dropping*

alpine static, Sunday, 30 April 2017 22:20 (four years ago) link

Psyched.

o. nate, Monday, 1 May 2017 00:07 (four years ago) link

Wow this band is good

I like music from the Elder

blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 1 May 2017 00:19 (four years ago) link

they are incredible. and young!

second-best set i saw at last year's Psycho Las Vegas (behind Tribulation).

alpine static, Monday, 1 May 2017 00:35 (four years ago) link

I effused over Elder on one of the year-end metal poll threads, but I didn't know they had their own thread, haha. Never seen them live, and I live an hour from Boston. Also I had to buy my copy of Lore from Germany because I couldn't figure out how to get one from Armageddon Shop, which is within a three hour drive for me. I kind of hope this new one comes out on a real label instead of an underground record shop.

Guy Pidgeotto (Tom Violence), Monday, 1 May 2017 04:54 (four years ago) link

Pedal steel on the new one

calstars, Monday, 1 May 2017 10:45 (four years ago) link

it's funny these guys aren't more well known...seem like they would appeal to ppl who like Baroness, Mastodon or Pallbearer

blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 2 May 2017 18:31 (four years ago) link

I listen to them more than the first two of those, tbh. Haven't heard the new one yet, though.

My Body's Made of Crushed Little Evening Stars (Sund4r), Tuesday, 2 May 2017 18:32 (four years ago) link

To my ears they're in the same league as those three in terms of accessibility and mainstream appeal so yeah, not sure. They probably just need to stick around a bit longer and have some luck with publicity etc.

calstars, Tuesday, 2 May 2017 20:43 (four years ago) link

they aspire to the ranks of wobbler imho

\m/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKM-H48ergI

reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 2 May 2017 20:54 (four years ago) link

Pre-order is just $10, and they'll ship it the week before release: http://armageddonlabel.bigcartel.com/product/elder-reflections-of-a-floating-world-cd-digipack

Fastnbulbous, Wednesday, 3 May 2017 13:34 (four years ago) link

Thanks fast
Maybe I should buy this on cassette, I bet it would sound great

calstars, Wednesday, 3 May 2017 13:49 (four years ago) link

All four albums, plus the highly recommended Spires Burn EP are all available on the site too. Even back in 2012 seeing them live was life changing. They hit the fuzzy sweet spot and massage it with sub-bass tones like no other. I don't know why another label hasn't snatched them up, perhaps Elder prefer it this way? Would love it if they brought somewhat under appreciated Boston area band Magic Circle on their next US tour -- two very different approaches to doom.

Fastnbulbous, Wednesday, 3 May 2017 13:58 (four years ago) link

I'm on my second listen of a preview stream of the new one, very happy with it.

Can also get dls of previous albums here: https://beholdtheelder.bandcamp.com/album/reflections-of-a-floating-world

Fastnbulbous, Wednesday, 3 May 2017 19:39 (four years ago) link

jealous! Yo hook me up bra

calstars, Wednesday, 3 May 2017 22:08 (four years ago) link

i was a little put off when they sent a stream rather than a d/l ... but i'll get over it (and buy the LP) :)

i don't have time to really type out thoughts on this, but per this band getting a break, getting good pub, snatched up by a label, putting stuff out thru Armageddon, etc. ... i have my suspicions that they have a pretty atypical view of all that stuff (i.e. the business of being in a band).

i interviewed Nick once but didn't talk to him about it. if i ever get another chance, i'd ask him.

alpine static, Wednesday, 3 May 2017 23:34 (four years ago) link

DiSalvo!

calstars, Sunday, 7 May 2017 22:41 (four years ago) link

from: https://beholdtheelder.bandcamp.com/album/reflections-of-a-floating-world

Europe/World: www.stickman-records.com/shop/elder-reflections-of-a-floating-world/

North America: Bandcamp is a bully and won't allow us to link directly to another store. Please find the Armageddon Label bigcartel website with a google search. Thanks for nothin, bandcamp.

alpine static, Monday, 8 May 2017 15:08 (four years ago) link

Who even knows what the new one is,
Some
Other kind of music

c (calstars), Saturday, 20 May 2017 00:39 (four years ago) link

Staving off truth

c (calstars), Saturday, 20 May 2017 00:39 (four years ago) link

(Acoustic interludes)

c (calstars), Saturday, 20 May 2017 00:43 (four years ago) link

My apologies for the above...

calstars, Sunday, 21 May 2017 21:29 (four years ago) link

These guise are just my heroes

calstars, Sunday, 21 May 2017 22:22 (four years ago) link

new album is out and fuckin rips

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Friday, 2 June 2017 15:11 (four years ago) link

Would love it if they brought somewhat under appreciated Boston area band Magic Circle on their next US tour -- two very different approaches to doom.

― Fastnbulbous, Wednesday, May 3, 2017 6:58 AM (four weeks ago)

yus. two of my favorite american bands of the now, and i haven't seen either play live. where elder are concerned, i'm somewhat surprised by my own enthusiasm, as i'm not generally a fan of jam-oriented psychedelic rock. they keep their noodles trim & let the riffs do most of the talking, which helps. then again, i find myself loving all them witches, too, so maybe i'm just in jam band denial.

Beetle Juice continued to spit all over our drinks (contenderizer), Friday, 2 June 2017 15:32 (four years ago) link

the cover art of the new album is very "Sacred Bones"

Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 2 June 2017 15:57 (four years ago) link

Have loved these guys since Dead Roots, new is another grade 1 smasher

del esdichado (NickB), Friday, 2 June 2017 16:30 (four years ago) link

I am intrigued - do I need their first two releases, or do they suddenly get a whole lot better with Lore, the two-song EP, and the new one?

grawlix (unperson), Friday, 2 June 2017 16:34 (four years ago) link

You need Dead Roots. I can't count how many times I've spun that LP

Brakhage, Friday, 2 June 2017 16:47 (four years ago) link

Dead Roots Stirring is still my favourite they've done tbh, title song is a major jam

del esdichado (NickB), Friday, 2 June 2017 16:48 (four years ago) link

dead roots stirring and lore are both essential imo. havent heard the new one yet

ciderpress, Friday, 2 June 2017 17:00 (four years ago) link

i mean who is better than this band, heavy/hard-rock-wise? good lord, they're monstrous.

alpine static, Friday, 2 June 2017 18:04 (four years ago) link

I think they hit their stride on the Spires Burn / Release EP and have been on an upward spiral since then

calstars, Friday, 2 June 2017 18:22 (four years ago) link

Not to diminish their early stuff, but they've come a long way

calstars, Friday, 2 June 2017 18:47 (four years ago) link

Bought Lore, Spires Burn/Release, and Reflections of a Floating World on Bandcamp. Maybe I'll spring for the first two later.

grawlix (unperson), Friday, 2 June 2017 18:54 (four years ago) link

i agree w/ calstars, there's a pretty huge leap between Dead Roots Stirring and Lore, imo ... which is more a reflection of Lore's quality than DRS

alpine static, Friday, 2 June 2017 23:28 (four years ago) link

Kinda into this now

i believe that (s)he is sincere (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 3 June 2017 07:39 (four years ago) link

Their 2009 debut isn't chopped liver either. Yeah it's more traditional stoner/doom, but it's fun. I've been lucky enough to see Elder four times now. The first, around 2012, was the loudest. I just jammed in the earplugs and let the sub-bass massage everything down to my hair follicles. I think they go for a more balanced volume level now that they're a bit more intricate. They're touring all over Europe this summer then back in the U.S. in the fall.

No one is better at their particular style. I do kind of think of Wo Fat as their cousins in Texas with more of a swamp/blues element, and an occasional nod to Bitches Brew fusion. After not properly touring the U.S. for their entire existence (again, they're more appreciated in Europe), I'm excited to finally see them in a couple weeks.

I banged out a review late one night.

Fastnbulbous, Saturday, 3 June 2017 12:19 (four years ago) link

okay wow yeah these guys rip... can tell they'd be pummeling live

global tetrahedron, Saturday, 3 June 2017 15:42 (four years ago) link

i've already said this upthread but their set at Psycho Las Vegas last year was literally a jaw-dropping, stupid-grin-making kind of thing. i was absolutely blown away.

alpine static, Saturday, 3 June 2017 16:19 (four years ago) link

These guys have me revisiting Ancestors, who I hadn't listened to in quite a while (their last album is in 2012). Apparently they're currently recording a new one.

grawlix (unperson), Saturday, 3 June 2017 16:49 (four years ago) link

(she sells) sanctuary

\m/

reggie (qualmsley), Sunday, 4 June 2017 00:05 (four years ago) link

bless this album

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Sunday, 4 June 2017 18:16 (four years ago) link

"Thousand Hands" is fight my geration's "lonely is the word"

calstars, Wednesday, 7 June 2017 23:43 (four years ago) link

when did this band (who i already loved) turn into a motorik psych outfit? because i'm into it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2phzK85kSRw

global tetrahedron, Monday, 30 December 2019 19:45 (one year ago) link

Elder has changed their hometown to Berlin on Bandcamp.

I felt I should tell my people (you all)

alpine static, Friday, 10 January 2020 04:23 (one year ago) link

Yeah that Gold & Silver Sessions was so good, I'd love to hear more of that influence creep into their next full length. This band slays so hard.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 10 January 2020 15:13 (one year ago) link

i mean who is better than this band, heavy/hard-rock-wise? good lord, they're monstrous.

bless this album

this album

my god this album

this fucking band, man

LOL. QFT.

UK dates from September 30th.

― Absolute Unit Delta Plus (Noel Emits), Saturday, June 16, 2018 4:11 AM (one year ago)

alpine static, Friday, 10 January 2020 19:05 (one year ago) link

one month passes...

New song! New album in April!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-QCXTizosLc

but also fuck you (unperson), Monday, 24 February 2020 14:29 (one year ago) link

Those closing minutes are seriously groovy.

bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Monday, 24 February 2020 14:38 (one year ago) link

Full track listing:

1. Omens [10:53]
2. In Procession [9:53]
3. Halcyon [12:48]
4. Embers [10:47]
5. One Light Retreating [11:13]

North American tour dates:

May 6 - Brooklyn, NY @ Elsewhere
May 7 - Philadelphia, PA @ Underground Arts
May 8 - Richmond, VA @ Richmond Music Hall
May 9 - Asheville, NC @ Mothlight
May 10 - Atlanta, GA @ The Earl
May 12 - Lexington, KY @ Cosmic Charlies
May 13 - Nashville, TN @ Mercy Lounge
May 14 - New Orleans, LA @ One Eyed Jacks
May 15 - Houston, TX @ Secret Group
May 16 - Austin, TX @ Barracuda
May 17 - Dallas, TX @ Blue Light
May 19 - Albuquerque, NM @ Sister Bar
May 20 - Denver, CO @ Hi Dive
May 22 - St. Paul, MN @ Turf Club
May 23 - Chicago, IL @ Reggie’s
May 24 - Cleveland, OH @ Grog Shop
May 26 - Detroit, MI @ Sanctuary
May 27 - Toronto, ON @ Lee’s Palace
May 28 - Montreal, QC @ Café Campus
May 29 - Boston, MA @ ONCE Ballroom

but also fuck you (unperson), Monday, 24 February 2020 17:36 (one year ago) link

I just emailed Armageddon Shop to see how the hell you preorder from them. I bought Reflections and Lore from Stickman and had them shipped from Germany because Armageddon Shop's web presence is like, Geocities level.

Schammasch Cannonball (Tom Violence), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 01:30 (one year ago) link

three weeks pass...

Finally got back around to “embers” after a Luke warm reaction when it came out and it sounds about ten times better than I remembered it, and like I always find with them, volume helps

calstars, Sunday, 22 March 2020 01:21 (one year ago) link

I mean the break at 3:45 is

calstars, Tuesday, 24 March 2020 00:59 (one year ago) link

Staring at the sun hanging in air
Wait for it to fall

calstars, Saturday, 4 April 2020 21:21 (one year ago) link

Deep cut for the fans. An animated short with music by Nick DiSalvo.

https://vimeo.com/36888803

I've got my bidet and my pills (Noel Emits), Tuesday, 14 April 2020 21:55 (one year ago) link

I still haven't figured out a place to pre-order a CD copy of this.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 16 April 2020 16:26 (one year ago) link

armageddonlabel.bigcartel.com for ordering in the states. They certainly do not make it easy.

Revolutionary Girl Utrenja (Tom Violence), Thursday, 16 April 2020 17:53 (one year ago) link

I was gonna suggest Newbury Comics (since bigcartel's shipping rates tend toward the extortionate IMO) but they're shut down thanks to COVID.

but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 16 April 2020 18:00 (one year ago) link

Omens is out!


http://beholdtheelder.bandcamp.com/album/omens

calstars, Friday, 24 April 2020 20:44 (one year ago) link

Listening to this now for the first time. Re: complaints about the vocals from the rolling metal thread: his singing has always sounded like that, but the melodies are doing a lot more on this album, and his voice can't quite keep up. I agree that it doesn't really hinder my enjoyment of the album, though. I do kind of miss the heaviness of Lore, but I'd rather have Elder doing Elder, there's tons of other bands doing heavy stoner jams.

Revolutionary Girl Utrenja (Tom Violence), Tuesday, 28 April 2020 19:12 (one year ago) link

Still waiting for my pre-order to get here before cracking into it, but the EP from last year really has me excited to hear it.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 28 April 2020 19:14 (one year ago) link

Oh yeah, my preorder hasn't come. RI is supposed to be getting off lockdown next week, I'm not sure if that's what's held it up. Stickman copies have shipped and European FB acquaintances have their copies in hand.

Revolutionary Girl Utrenja (Tom Violence), Tuesday, 28 April 2020 19:16 (one year ago) link

Yeah, mine has shipped and I got the notification, but the tracking number through Stamps.com just shows the progress it's made so far, doesn't have an expected delivery date like regular USPS tracking does.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 28 April 2020 19:18 (one year ago) link

Enjoying this, but agreeing about the vocalist not being able to keep up with the melodies. The moments I enjoy most on this are when the singing stops and the band takes over.

beard papa, Tuesday, 28 April 2020 19:22 (one year ago) link

The vocals have never really been the big draw for me with these guys anyway, but that seems to be a common complaint about the new one so I'm interested to hear it.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 28 April 2020 19:24 (one year ago) link

fuckin' LORE, man

alpine static, Tuesday, 28 April 2020 21:21 (one year ago) link

just got around to OMENS ... dude's vocals aren't bothering me at all ... another banger from this band, as far as i can tell.

i might spring for their most recent EP on bandcamp today, even though it's kinda spendy for 3 tracks ... granted they run 34 minutes long.

alpine static, Friday, 1 May 2020 23:33 (one year ago) link

Yeah I just don’t understand the vocal dislike at all. This isn’t pop

calstars, Friday, 1 May 2020 23:38 (one year ago) link

The Gold and Silver Sessions are awesome, even more weird and motorik than Omens. Highly recommended.

Revolutionary Girl Utrenja (Tom Violence), Saturday, 2 May 2020 00:50 (one year ago) link

Yeah, I much preferred that to the latest LP.

And of course this isn't pop, but that doesn't mean there's no method to metal vox. In Elder's case, they're serviceable most of the time. Every now and then, however, the contrast between the band's effortless instrumental virtuosity and dude's straining vocal cords comes across as more of a bug than a feature. It's way less of an issue when the guitars are amped up.

pomenitul, Saturday, 2 May 2020 00:57 (one year ago) link

the snippets I've heard of this new one sound 1000x more interesting, melodically, than any previous Elder

imago, Saturday, 2 May 2020 01:08 (one year ago) link

In my review I said some of the vocals and guitar bits reminded me of Bitch Magnet, Unwound, Polvo, Rodan, and Shellac. In this recent interview, Nick mentioned having a hardcore phase, and cited the slowcore indie of Low and Idaho as influences: https://www.revolvermag.com/music/elders-nick-disalvo-5-albums-made-me#idaho-hearts-palm

Fastnbulbous, Saturday, 2 May 2020 14:28 (one year ago) link

seven months pass...

OPO of the album closers: thousand hands vs one light retreating ???

calstars, Sunday, 20 December 2020 03:58 (six months ago) link

One light is great the whole way though but I couldn’t help but look forward to hands...

calstars, Sunday, 20 December 2020 04:08 (six months ago) link

two months pass...

Omens

calstars, Saturday, 27 February 2021 03:37 (three months ago) link

Feel like Nick could use a foil to the bands benefit

calstars, Saturday, 27 February 2021 03:55 (three months ago) link

One light is great the whole way through

calstars, Saturday, 27 February 2021 04:05 (three months ago) link

one month passes...

holy shit wow this album

John Cooper of Christian rock band Skillet (map), Friday, 9 April 2021 18:22 (two months ago) link

welcome...

alpine static, Friday, 9 April 2021 18:27 (two months ago) link

Nicks side project Delving has a track out today

https://delving-music.bandcamp.com/album/hirschbrunnen

calstars, Friday, 16 April 2021 11:48 (two months ago) link

still can't believe how good this album is

John Cooper of Christian rock band Skillet (map), Friday, 16 April 2021 18:59 (two months ago) link

Did you check out the krautier Gold & Silver Sessions EP?

pomenitul, Friday, 16 April 2021 19:01 (two months ago) link

no

John Cooper of Christian rock band Skillet (map), Friday, 16 April 2021 19:02 (two months ago) link

You're missing out.

pomenitul, Friday, 16 April 2021 19:03 (two months ago) link

no i'm not

John Cooper of Christian rock band Skillet (map), Friday, 16 April 2021 19:03 (two months ago) link

Ok.

pomenitul, Friday, 16 April 2021 19:04 (two months ago) link

i'd slept on Omens until this got bumped. seems really great so far, maybe their best?

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 16 April 2021 19:52 (two months ago) link

wow this is really strong

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 16 April 2021 20:10 (two months ago) link

i've also somehow never heard this record, april 2020 was a bad month for me to hear new music lol

anyway i'm correcting this shortly

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 16 April 2021 20:13 (two months ago) link

one month passes...

Some kind of live steam thing going on next weekend , suggest we toke doobies

calstars, Tuesday, 1 June 2021 20:21 (three weeks ago) link

https://www.instagram.com/p/CPiSX72I5Jh

calstars, Tuesday, 1 June 2021 20:24 (three weeks ago) link

incredible stuff tbh, second one especially:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCzLI7_O-rk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jy0XghYMttI

building a hole (NickB), Thursday, 10 June 2021 20:20 (one week ago) link

Nicks solo album is out today

https://delving-music.bandcamp.com/album/hirschbrunnen

calstars, Friday, 11 June 2021 11:00 (one week ago) link


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