Songs where the singer/protagonist comes off as a serious dick without meaning to

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In the thread called Word(s) that only ever appeared in one (hit) song, ever, Doctor Casino wrote, "'Arizona' has several times made me want to start a thread about songs where the singer/protagonist comes off as a serious dick without meaning to."

Perhaps this could be that thread.

Ye Mad Puffin, Friday, 27 March 2015 21:01 (seven years ago) link

As it happens, there was once an epic thread called "In Which Doctor Casino Listens to Classic Rock Classics for the First Time." Perhaps you're familiar with it.

In Which Doctor Casino Listens to Classic Rock Classics for the First Time

User intheblanks had written, "There's the contempt for women in songs like 'You Got Lucky' and 'Breakdown.'" Then, user campreverb wrote: "Contempt? I hear a lot of self-doubt in lines like this: Girl, if you can do better than me/Go, yea go, but remember Good love is hard to find."

My further thought involved a subset of this: a dude informing a woman that he, the singer/protagonist, is the solution to her romantic problems, and she should therefore be rilly rilly grateful that he exists. Because otherwise she would be a withered cronelike old maid.

"Let My Love Open the Door" ("you're so lucky I'm around")
James Taylor, "I'm Your Handyman"
Little Feat, "One Clear Moment"
Don Henley, "Last Worthless Evening"

There should be, and probably is, a whole counter-genre of women answering, "No thanks, Tom/James/Don/Pete, I'll actually be fine."

Ye Mad Puffin, Friday, 27 March 2015 21:01 (seven years ago) link

"without meaning to" kinda hard to navigate imo

Οὖτις, Friday, 27 March 2015 21:04 (seven years ago) link

anyway

The Beach Boys "Hey Little Tomboy"

Οὖτις, Friday, 27 March 2015 21:10 (seven years ago) link

As for "without meaning to," there are plenty of songs in which someone is obviously trying to be, or is, really a dick. This is for the ones who appear to think they're being well-meaning sensitive new age guys.

"Wild World" probably gets extra credit in this category.

Ye Mad Puffin, Friday, 27 March 2015 21:21 (seven years ago) link

"Rude"

from batman to balloon dog (carl agatha), Friday, 27 March 2015 21:25 (seven years ago) link

^^^

Hugh G. Wreckjoke (snoball), Friday, 27 March 2015 21:28 (seven years ago) link

'My Sharona', The Knack

Hugh G. Wreckjoke (snoball), Friday, 27 March 2015 21:29 (seven years ago) link

Glenn Frey's entire career to thread

Master of Treacle, Friday, 27 March 2015 21:31 (seven years ago) link

the protagonist in 'there she goes again' by marshall crenshaw comes across as super passive aggressive, idk if it's intentional though

soref, Friday, 27 March 2015 21:31 (seven years ago) link

Don Henley, yeah, is the master of this.

Daryl Hall too. Most of their classic singles are about a guy out for kicks who resents when the woman insists on more more more.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 27 March 2015 21:34 (seven years ago) link

Anyone who sings 'Always On My Mind'.

I think Neil Tennant pulls it off without sounding like a dick.

Hugh G. Wreckjoke (snoball), Friday, 27 March 2015 21:41 (seven years ago) link

My mom and stepdad danced to "You Were Always on My Mind" at their wedding reception and when I asked why on earth they would do that, they said it was because they hadn't thought to pick a song before then and didn't think very hard about the lyrics beyond the chorus. They're still married 31 years later so no harm no foul.

from batman to balloon dog (carl agatha), Friday, 27 March 2015 21:48 (seven years ago) link

Yeah, I guess the Pet Shop Boys' version is the "least dickish" version, but god, that song... "hey, maybe I was a dick to you, but if it's any consolation, you were always on my mind"... jesus.

The Monkees - "I Wanna Be Free". Davy Jones sounds like an insincere douche on a number of Monkees songs, but this one take the douchecake.

Gimme Gimme Pop Secret (Old Lunch), Friday, 27 March 2015 22:20 (seven years ago) link

I get this vibe from Paul Weller's 'I Should Have Been There To Inspire You' for some reason.

Jack Jones - "Wives and Lovers" to thread.

Mr. Snrub, Friday, 27 March 2015 22:32 (seven years ago) link

city and colour - "girl"

part emotional blackmail, part justification for being less than an equal partner in a relationship

head clowning instructor (art), Friday, 27 March 2015 23:01 (seven years ago) link

'Norwegian Wood', The Beatles. Narrator tries not to come off as a serious dick while describing a situation in which he was at least a moderate dick, still manages to come off as a serious dick.

Hugh G. Wreckjoke (snoball), Friday, 27 March 2015 23:11 (seven years ago) link

'(It Looks Like) I'll Never Fall In Love Again', Tom Jones. Singer has split with someone after they cheated on him, but goes about recounting it in such a melodramatically self serving narcissistic way that the audience suspects that they're not hearing the whole story, and that the singer is, in fact, a serious dick.

Hugh G. Wreckjoke (snoball), Friday, 27 March 2015 23:17 (seven years ago) link

'Sunny Afternoon', The Kinks. Rich shitbag asks you to feel sorry for him, thereby coming off as a serious dick.

Hugh G. Wreckjoke (snoball), Friday, 27 March 2015 23:22 (seven years ago) link

Woman is the Nigger of the World.

Adam J Duncan, Saturday, 28 March 2015 05:25 (seven years ago) link

lots of John Lennon songs fit the bill here tbh

charlie h, Saturday, 28 March 2015 05:42 (seven years ago) link

I wonder if you can, Charlie.

Adam J Duncan, Saturday, 28 March 2015 06:03 (seven years ago) link

haha yeah, that one is particularly sanctimonious.

Jealous Guy is an interesting one. he's acknowledging that he's been a serious dick, without realising that new levels of serious dickery are expressed within the framework of his apology/ justification.

charlie h, Saturday, 28 March 2015 06:17 (seven years ago) link

Jealous Guy... Oh man couldn't the defeners pick a better video to comment in? I'd be wary of people who don't see the passive aggressiveness there... though I can't say I'm any better for loving Lightfoot's I'm not Sayin' because I emphasize with him 'fessing up to being a dick.

Adam J Duncan, Saturday, 28 March 2015 07:02 (seven years ago) link

Oh how could I forget... The Mountain Goats - Going to Georgia. Though to give credit where it's due he's stopped playing it live despite being one of his most popular songs.

Adam J Duncan, Saturday, 28 March 2015 07:16 (seven years ago) link

("The Stalker's Anthem")

Adam J Duncan, Saturday, 28 March 2015 07:19 (seven years ago) link

Neil Young's Down By The River.
Wherein Neil bewails being alone because he's killed his baby. Trying to think if its actually adressed to her too.

Stevolende, Saturday, 28 March 2015 09:25 (seven years ago) link

the entire first big pink album, though maybe it was intentional i dunno

don't ask me why i posted this (electricsound), Saturday, 28 March 2015 09:40 (seven years ago) link

Peter Sarstedt - Where Do You Go To My Lovely. The pathetic whine of someone who resents that the subject of the song made something of their life while he didn't. The attempt at caustic truth-telling comes across as nothing more than burning jealousy. I hate that fucking song.

めんどくさかった (Matt #2), Saturday, 28 March 2015 09:55 (seven years ago) link

for a laugh, ah ha-ha-ha

Hugh G. Wreckjoke (snoball), Saturday, 28 March 2015 10:25 (seven years ago) link

"Every Breath You Take", if "dick" can also be used for a creepy stalker.

Tuomas, Saturday, 28 March 2015 10:53 (seven years ago) link

'Rio', Duran Duran

Hugh G. Wreckjoke (snoball), Saturday, 28 March 2015 11:26 (seven years ago) link

"Let My Love Open the Door" ("you're so lucky I'm around")

Although Townshend is a devotee to the religious guru Meher Baba, he claimed in the liner notes of his Anthology CD that "Jesus sings" on the track.[3]

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 28 March 2015 11:35 (seven years ago) link

Yeah, I guess the Pet Shop Boys' version is the "least dickish" version, but god, that song... "hey, maybe I was a dick to you, but if it's any consolation, you were always on my mind"... jesus.

― You’re being too simplistic and you’re insulting my poor heart (Turrican),

The keys are the melodies and Tennant's voice. To me he does sound like he cares about the guy on the "Tellllll meeeeee/tell me that your sweet love hasn't died." otoh the "Maybe IIIIIIIIIIIIIIII didn't love you" as the song fades is cold!

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 28 March 2015 12:19 (seven years ago) link

Townshend uses pop song romantic love as a proxy for spiritual love a lot, but this just made me realize that a lot of songs about "spiritual love" make the singer sound like a serious dick.

juggulo for the complete klvtz (bendy), Saturday, 28 March 2015 12:31 (seven years ago) link

Might be why gospel is best delivered in harmony

juggulo for the complete klvtz (bendy), Saturday, 28 March 2015 12:32 (seven years ago) link

xp see Prince's 'I Would Die 4 U'

Hugh G. Wreckjoke (snoball), Saturday, 28 March 2015 12:34 (seven years ago) link

a lot of songs about "spiritual love" make the singer sound like a serious dick.

many songs about spiritual love are about the singer's dick.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 28 March 2015 12:34 (seven years ago) link

I always heard "Always on My Mind" as expressing regret for being a dick.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Saturday, 28 March 2015 12:46 (seven years ago) link

which version? Willie Nelson's def.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 28 March 2015 12:48 (seven years ago) link

I don't think "Every Breath You Take" counts, Tuomas.

The lyrics are the words of a sinister, controlling character, who is watching "every breath you take; every move you make". Essentially, it is a song about stalking.

I woke up in the middle of the night with that line in my head, sat down at the piano and had written it in half an hour. The tune itself is generic, an aggregate of hundreds of others, but the words are interesting. It sounds like a comforting love song. I didn't realize at the time how sinister it is. I think I was thinking of Big Brother, surveillance and control.

—Sting[7]

Sting later said he was disconcerted by how many people think the song is more positive than it is. He insists it's about the obsession with a lost lover, and the jealousy and surveillance that follow. "One couple told me 'Oh we love that song; it was the main song played at our wedding!' I thought, 'Well, good luck.'"[8] When asked why he appears angry in the music video Sting told BBC Radio 2, "I think the song is very, very sinister and ugly and people have actually misinterpreted it as being a gentle little love song, when it's quite the opposite."[9]

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 28 March 2015 14:16 (seven years ago) link

Don't think Neil Young's "Down By The River" counts either.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 28 March 2015 14:19 (seven years ago) link

How about God Only Knows?

Frederik B, Saturday, 28 March 2015 14:25 (seven years ago) link

Jealous Guy is an interesting one. he's acknowledging that he's been a serious dick, without realising that new levels of serious dickery are expressed within the framework of his apology/ justification.

totally. see also the spoken-word part in "Confessions Part II":

This by far is the hardest thing I think I've ever had to do
To tell you, the woman I love
That I'm having a baby by a woman that I barely even know
I hope you can accept the fact that I'm man enough to tell you this
And hopefully you'll give me another chance

Doctor Casino, Saturday, 28 March 2015 14:26 (seven years ago) link

^^ sheesh, that's awful.

re: God Only Knows: never found the speaker all that off-putting personally. naive, yes. melodramatic, check. selfish even, if i'm stretched. but mostly i just find it to be inspirited with the elation of young love.

charlie h, Saturday, 28 March 2015 14:48 (seven years ago) link

I don't think "Every Breath You Take" counts, Tuomas.

Not Tuomas but I'm not totally clear on what the thread is asking for. In this case, the songwriter intended for the song to be from the perspective of a serious dick; I'm not sure that the protagonist himself realizes this, though.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Saturday, 28 March 2015 14:52 (seven years ago) link

I disagree with "God Only Knows" but surely "Caroline No" fits. Especially when hearing about the reaction his girlfriend had to it.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 28 March 2015 14:55 (seven years ago) link

I know this is neither the time nor place but 'asked me what the time was that was on my watch' is my underrated nominee for most tortured English language construction in pop music.

You Can't Have the Woogie Without a Little Boogie (Old Lunch), Friday, 9 April 2021 20:05 (one year ago) link

In the Beefheart song, though, there's no indication that the subject is trying to evade the singer. It always brings to mind someone looking for a lost animal to me.

Halfway there but for you, Friday, 9 April 2021 20:06 (one year ago) link

Or for that matter, an animal looking for a person (although the singer does mention having "arms").

Halfway there but for you, Friday, 9 April 2021 20:16 (one year ago) link

three months pass...

Got a wife and kids in Baltimore, Jack
I went out for a ride and I never went back

How quickly we forget about them, with that happy singalong chorus!

henry s, Friday, 6 August 2021 22:00 (ten months ago) link

But she comes back in the next verse (at least, I’ve always assumed that was her in the Kingston bar—

though how did they get from Kingston to Baltimore?

and was the Kingston in question the “ unincorporated community and census designated place (CDP) along the border of South Brunswick Township in Middlesex County and Franklin Township in Somerset County, in New Jersey, United States”?

Swag Heathen (theStalePrince), Friday, 6 August 2021 23:59 (ten months ago) link

It’s “Kingstown,” as in the capital of Saint Vincent and the Grenadines, duh

Josefa, Saturday, 7 August 2021 00:11 (ten months ago) link

You’re right—what about Kingstown on Maryland’s Eastern Shore, then? Google maps tells me no bars remain, though the place features a defunct mill (now a garden center)….

Swag Heathen (theStalePrince), Saturday, 7 August 2021 00:37 (ten months ago) link

Sorry I just don’t see Springsteen hanging out around a defunct mill

Josefa, Saturday, 7 August 2021 00:40 (ten months ago) link

lol

Swag Heathen (theStalePrince), Saturday, 7 August 2021 00:54 (ten months ago) link

one month passes...

Survivor, "The Search Is Over": just what did he put this poor woman through?


You followed me through changes
And patiently you'd wait
'Til I came to my senses
Through some miracle of fate

I was living for a dream
Loving for a moment
Taking on the world
That was just my style
Now I look into your eyes
I can see forever
The search is over
You were with me all the while

enochroot, Thursday, 30 September 2021 16:17 (nine months ago) link

needs a response song

"The search is over
I found a better man named Lyle"

Gardyloominati (Neanderthal), Thursday, 30 September 2021 16:19 (nine months ago) link

two weeks pass...

The Monkees - "I Wanna Be Free". Davy Jones sounds like an insincere douche on a number of Monkees songs, but this one take the douchecake.

― Gimme Gimme Pop Secret (Old Lunch), Friday, March 27, 2015 5:20 PM (six years ago) bookmarkflaglink

Heard it again this morning, and the lyrics really need to be beheld:

I wanna be free
Like the bluebirds flying by me
Like the waves out on the blue sea
If your love has to tie me
Don't try me, say good-bye

I wanna be free
Don't say you love me, say you like me
But when I need you beside me
Stay close enough to guide me
Confide in me, whoa-oh-oh

I wanna hold your hand
Walk along the sand
Laughing in the sun
Always having fun
Doing all those things
Without any strings to tie me down

I wanna be free
Like the warm September wind, babe
Say you'll always be my friend, babe
We can make it to the end, babe
Again, babe, I've gotta say
I wanna be free

Gimme some skin! Because I don't have any skin. (Old Lunch), Friday, 15 October 2021 18:14 (eight months ago) link

I wanna be fwb

St. Twel'mo, or the Cuneiform Cyclopedist of Chattanooga (President Keyes), Friday, 15 October 2021 18:18 (eight months ago) link

Except you have to be there for me when I need you. And willing to go the eff away when I don't. I'll keep you posted, babe. I wanna be free.

Gimme some skin! Because I don't have any skin. (Old Lunch), Friday, 15 October 2021 18:20 (eight months ago) link

four months pass...

The Byrds - Triad

― kornrulez6969, Monday, March 30, 2015 6:55 PM (six years ago)

Came here to see if this one was ever mentioned (it super qualifies). I've actually never heard the Byrds version - I do love the song when Grace sings it, it's so ridiculous.

punching the clock on a tambo (morrisp), Thursday, 17 February 2022 00:55 (four months ago) link

I guess Come Up the Years (another JA fave) also belongs here - though I don't think Balin & Kantner's "narrator" really cares how he comes off. He needs help!! 'Fore he falls apart!

punching the clock on a tambo (morrisp), Thursday, 17 February 2022 01:06 (four months ago) link

"Triad" by the Byrds is gorgeous, despite the lyrics.

visiting, Thursday, 17 February 2022 01:20 (four months ago) link

Thx - just checked it out, and I agree (though it's maybe a little static-feeling). The Crosby demo is actually really nice...! Neither of these have the sleazy, transparently manipulative vibe that I love about the Airplane's take, though. (Crosby's demo is so "sensitive," he almost has me going... like yeah, let's try it, Dave! I'm all in!)

punching the clock on a tambo (morrisp), Thursday, 17 February 2022 22:02 (four months ago) link

The line I most love in this song is: "...and in time, maybe others." The protagonist can't help but telegraph the full extent of his horndog master plan!

punching the clock on a tambo (morrisp), Thursday, 17 February 2022 22:05 (four months ago) link

Wind Beneath My Wings

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 17 February 2022 22:24 (four months ago) link

one month passes...

Butterfly in the sky? Pssh.
I can go twice as high! (smirks)

When the Pain That You Feel is the Bite of an Eel, That's a Moray (Old Lunch), Thursday, 17 March 2022 11:23 (three months ago) link

lol I did the exact same thing Le Bateau Ivre did 5 years ago, searching for and marveling at the lack of Weezer

castanuts (DJP), Thursday, 17 March 2022 13:42 (three months ago) link

three weeks pass...

Rod Stewart's 2018 opioid crisis cash-in 'Didn't I' deserves some kind of award for pulling this stunt. it seems like he's trying to set a tone of tough love wrt to a father's inability to steer his child away from self-destructive choices, but he comes across as if he's waiting for her to wake up from her coma so that he can be certain his taunting and guilt tripping are actually getting through to her

There are times to remember
And times that I wish to forget
Our time together was tinged with love and regret
Oh, my girl
My sweet, sweet little girl

Didn't I try to tell ya that life was for living?
Oh, didn't I?
And wasn't I the guy who said 'stay away from that tribe'?
Oh, wasn't I?

Is this anti-semitism?

And didn't I try to tell you 'that's stuffs gonna kill ya'?
Oh, didn't I?
But you thought it was cool and I was just an old fool
Oh, look at ya

You left home for the city with Hollywood stars in your eyes
Now your mother, God bless her, cries herself to sleep every night
Oh my girl, my sweet innocent girl

Didn't I search the streets for the beggars, pimps and cheats?
Oh, didn't I?

"goddamnit, Fiona, I took cocaine up the ass in 1978, so I'm pretty sure I know a thing or two about drug culture"

And didn't I try to guide you to a baptism of fire?

"baptism by fire" = abusive parenting style

And didn't I try to warn ya 'bout that folk in California?
Oh, didn't I?
But you said 'daddy, please don't worry, I got friends out there who love me'
Now look at ya

can't stand the way he repeats her words back to her in a mocking tone as if he's a 7-year-old playground bully

(Bridge: Bridget Cady)
Oh baby, come back home, we can work this out
There is no blame
I wanna hold you close and stroke your hair and share your pain

at this point mommy swoops in to do a little damage control. "there is no blame" despite the fact that daddy has already blamed his daughter, her friends, and an entire state for her predicament

Didn't I do the best for you, try to make you stay in school?
Didn't I?
Once I was your hero but I went from ten to zero
Oh, didn't I?

accurate summation of Rod's career trajectory

Now listen
For a roll on the dice you nearly paid the ultimate price
Oh, didn't ya?
Now I stand by your bedside, watching you fight for you life

Where's the innocence? (Where's the innocence?)
Where's the future? (Where is the future?)
Where the beauty? (Ooo)
Where's the promise? (Where is the promise?)

bleah

in walked airbud (unregistered), Sunday, 10 April 2022 01:18 (two months ago) link

Where's the innocence? (Where's the innocence?)
Where's the future? (Where is the future?)
Where the beauty? (Ooo)
Where's the promise? (Where is the promise?) Where's the innocence? (Where's the innocence?)
Where's the future? (Where is the future?)
Where the beauty? (Ooo)
Where's the promise? (Where is the promise?) Where's the innocence? (Where's the innocence?)
Where's the future? (Where is the future?)
Where the beauty? (Ooo)
Where's the promise? (Where is the promise?) Where's the innocence? (Where's the innocence?)
Where's the future? (Where is the future?)
Where the beauty? (Ooo)
Where's the promise? (Where is the promise?)

calstars, Sunday, 10 April 2022 01:28 (two months ago) link

Wonder if this song is (with a gender switch) directed at his son who appeared on Celebrity Rehab.

Halfway there but for you, Sunday, 10 April 2022 04:17 (two months ago) link

Sounds like he’s singing to a member of the Manson family

Chappies banging dustbin lids together (President Keyes), Sunday, 10 April 2022 13:06 (two months ago) link

I've not heard that Rod Stewart song before

Is it actually called "I don't mean to come on as a serious dick, but"

Mark G, Sunday, 10 April 2022 13:18 (two months ago) link

…you broke my heart”

middot • is • my • middle • name (breastcrawl), Sunday, 10 April 2022 13:32 (two months ago) link

“Have I Told You Lately that You Disappoint Me?”

Chappies banging dustbin lids together (President Keyes), Sunday, 10 April 2022 14:08 (two months ago) link

two months pass...

Ok I am thinking about Wilson Phillips' song "Hold On," which is generally a supportive and caring message.

But then you get the line "You've got no one to blame for your unhappiness (no baby); you got yourself into your own mess."

Seriously? Fuck you, Carnie. You don't know anything about my life. For all you know, I'm unhappy because my parents were tortured and killed on the orders of Bashar Al-Assad. Then my few possessions were stolen by a crooked Turkish border agent. Pretty sure I've got people to blame.

Nutellanor Roosevelt (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 13 June 2022 03:16 (two weeks ago) link

Though imagine it’s directed at John and Brian.

Halfway there but for you, Monday, 13 June 2022 03:28 (two weeks ago) link

Hmm. I would say that in the Wilson Phillips oeuvre, the best zing against their parents comes in "The Dream Is Still Alive," which starts out as "Hippies were cool," but throws this elegant bit of shade:

Not so long ago in a purple haze
People dreamed out loud they were not afraid
They stopped the war but not the dying
Some got a little bit lost along the way

But not quite right for this thread because that last bit is intentional.

Nutellanor Roosevelt (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 13 June 2022 13:28 (two weeks ago) link

It's about the only U2 song I can countenance, but "I Still Haven't Found What I'm Looking For", I mean, "I went through hell and high water just to be with you, and for what?!"

henry s, Monday, 13 June 2022 14:43 (two weeks ago) link

Phil Oakey's bit in "Don't You Want Me," though the duet structure leavens it.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 13 June 2022 14:49 (two weeks ago) link

Maybe the character in Don't You Want Me isn't intentionally a dick, but surely Phil Oakey knew he was writing him that way.

enochroot, Monday, 13 June 2022 14:53 (two weeks ago) link

It's about the only U2 song I can countenance, but "I Still Haven't Found What I'm Looking For", I mean, "I went through hell and high water just to be with you, and for what?!"


Well he’s talking to God, it’s okay to be a dick to God.

Antifa Sandwich Artist (Boring, Maryland), Monday, 13 June 2022 15:13 (two weeks ago) link

A save for "I Still Haven't Found...": The "you" is God? Note that elsewhere, a romantic partner appears in the third person, as "her."

Xpost!

Doctor Casino, Monday, 13 June 2022 15:14 (two weeks ago) link

toxic divinity

Gymnopédie Pablo (Neanderthal), Monday, 13 June 2022 15:17 (two weeks ago) link

A save for "I Still Haven't Found...": The "you" is God? Note that elsewhere, a romantic partner appears in the _third_ person, as "her."

Xpost!


I think the lyric is just about “not finding it” in erotic love.

Antifa Sandwich Artist (Boring, Maryland), Monday, 13 June 2022 19:14 (two weeks ago) link

_A save for "I Still Haven't Found...": The "you" is God? Note that elsewhere, a romantic partner appears in the _third_ person, as "her."

Xpost!_


I think the lyric is just about “not finding it” in erotic love.


Oh I misunderstood what you said. Yeah the woman is on the third person.

Antifa Sandwich Artist (Boring, Maryland), Monday, 13 June 2022 19:15 (two weeks ago) link

-in-

Antifa Sandwich Artist (Boring, Maryland), Monday, 13 June 2022 19:16 (two weeks ago) link

Well, you have to think that Bono is a shitty lay, so that makes sense.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 13 June 2022 19:16 (two weeks ago) link

okay thanks for soiling my water

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 13 June 2022 19:19 (two weeks ago) link

Well, you have to think that Bono is a shitty lay, so that makes sense.

so no serious dick there then

butt-mooning is a polysemous word, hoss! (breastcrawl), Monday, 13 June 2022 19:25 (two weeks ago) link

No serious dicking, for sure.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 13 June 2022 19:31 (two weeks ago) link

Hasn't Bono had the same girlfriend/ wife since childhood? So I can imagine his grasp on wooing, romancing, and heartbreak is tenuous.

Perhaps because of that, for Bono, romantic love is a metaphor for religion, and his "love" songs are almost always religious in character. Cf. "She moves in mysterious ways," that's a little too on the nose. Some of the same for Al Green, who has said "You Ought to Be With Me" was never about a woman.

Some have suggested that for Marvin Gaye, sexual freedom and human freedom are metaphors for one another.

Nutellanor Roosevelt (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 14 June 2022 00:06 (two weeks ago) link

In actuality, romantic love is a metaphor for the Mexican Revolution. Which was itself a metaphor for pizza.

Nutellanor Roosevelt (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 14 June 2022 00:08 (two weeks ago) link

She Looks Like Me,With
Plastic Jewels,On Low Rent Crown,IN TACKY VERSION OF BOB’S (“THE DRESS” ) MACKIE…SINGING”STILL HAVENT FOUND WHAT IM LOOKING FOR” FLAT🤮

— Cher (@cher) June 11, 2022



#onethread

(we get to tempban each other, tempban each other
oohoo ooo)

butt-mooning is a polysemous word, hoss! (breastcrawl), Tuesday, 14 June 2022 09:11 (two weeks ago) link

Maybe the character in Don't You Want Me isn't intentionally a dick, but surely Phil Oakey knew he was writing him that way.

Definitely. I remember an interview where he mentioned how bemused he is when people tell him it's one of the great love songs: "It's about coercion."

Vast Halo, Tuesday, 21 June 2022 16:33 (one week ago) link


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