ILX Gonna Shine in My Backdoor Someday (new post-Fahey folk for ppl posting in Takoma/Tompkins Square threads Pt II)

Lots of new releases lately but other thread getting big and unwieldy and a resource hog. So! New thread for weird Fahey-esque instrumental folk guitar.

What did we have so far this year? Highlights for me:

William Tyler- Lost Colony (the kraut-country thing gets me going)
Steve Gunn- Way Out Weather
Nathan Bowles- Nansemond
Chris Forsyth- Intensity Ghost (think overall I liked Solar Motel better but I'm glad this one seems to be taking off)
Tashi Dorji- S/T

Seems like a lot of these folks made it into the limelight this year! And new Six Organs looks to be a monster.

Can we keep the Youtube embedding to a minimum in this incarnation? You can prevent them from embedding by having "https:" as opposed to just "http:" in the URL

thank you! I'll post a link on the old one unless someone does it first

am I correct that the Tashi Dorji S/T is older stuff compiled? really liked the new EP on Bandcamp page.

re: Richard Dawson, was gonna say that I hear a lot of Bill Orcutt's influence/style in his playing, anybody else? (sorry if this was noted previously)

― some kind of terrible IDM with guitars (sleeve), Saturday, December 13, 2014 11:41 AM

also ppl were talking about richard dawson, don't want to derail!

lol no worries there

doing some EOY catchup and I am not feeling this Steve Gunn at all, threadban me if you must

liked the Solar Motel (2 tracks on Spotify), really liked the new Tashi Dorji EP.

am I correct that the Tashi Dorji S/T is older stuff compiled?
yeah, pulled from several years' worth of cassette iirc. kind of a "greatest hits," i guess. he really is great, seems to get better every time i play his stuff.

sleeve - yeah a ton of orcutt & not to be super cynical but he seems to be getting a lot of praise from ppl I don't get the sense really know Orcutt

But i do like him

I just think it's a little like how when I finally heard gang of four reissues after growing up a fugazi fan

Oh hey folks.

Sleeve, that Gunn record definitely is a very specific kind of cool to me, I get why it wouldn't appeal to you. It is mostly very low-key and its charms can be extremely subtle, but I have personally found it to be deep and varied enough that I return to it pretty frequently. Maybe it'll grow on you, but it is definitely a song-based record that doesn't try to push the musicality as far as a lot of records touched on in this thread (and many of Gunn's other records do).

yeah i was actually wondering recently what I would think of gunn's latest if it was the first record of his I had heard. the context of his gradual development into a more straight-ahead singer-songwriter adds some flavor I think (if that makes sense). love the latest but at the same time, i hope he hasn't left behind his more avant leanings -- those gunn-truscinski records are still my faves out of everything he's done.

hey i have a question -- how do you pronounce cian of the name cian nugent?

rather how does one pronounce cian accurately

i thought it was like cyan but then realized it could be sean or shee-an or idk what and i would like to know

Kee An

i thought it was just pronounced "sean" for years though.

Like Ian preceded with a /k/ ?
Good to know! I have been meaning to ask this question for months.

yes, exactly!

haha apparently lots of blog posters and show hosters feel the need to lay this to rest too:
http://i61.tinypic.com/vgmyht.png

The Gunn/Mike Cooper and Gunn/Gangloff records both came out this year I think, and both contain a good range of playing outside of his "Way Out Weather" mode. It will be interesting to see what side of the divide the upcoming Gunn/Black Twig Pickers record will ride, but my guess is I will dig it. Hope some of it revisits this territory though:

http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Black_Twig_Pickers_and_Steve_Gunn/NATCH_1/Salted_Caramel

Global mentioned notable records from this year, and I wanna bring up Bachman's "Orange Co. Serenade". Really enjoyed it & definitely revisit it pretty frequently. Feel like he is growing and really may be just hitting his stride now, though who knows. New record on Three Lobed apparently out in April or May. Saw him Saturday night and the new songs were great, no reason not to believe that this next record will be anything other than really good.

dammit I forgot about that in my EOY listening binge this weekend, will check it out!

fwiw my introduction to Gunn was his side of the "Not The Spaces You Know..." comp, which I loved

oh yeah, shouldn't have forgotten the Daniel Bachman one! I think I've come around on that one, seems like the most cohesive release he's done so far.

Also Charlie Parr doesn't usually fit in this thread but he did a release this year that definitely does. It's called Hollandale- some really nicely recorded exploratory fingerpicked instrumentals. All on a National resonator, which sounds awesome/immense at times. Some cool sounds and textures added... anyway, may have been overlooked in this thread... It's on Spotify

Has this been shared yet? HD video of Tashi playing on WFMU, last September.

vimeo.com/wfmu/review/106853495/6f23ec5808

gamelan for guitar

awesome

Whatever he's got there on the neck is partially under certain strings and on top of others. He accidentally bumps into it at one point and it seems very loose. I thought it was a capo at first. Such crazy sounds coming out of that guitar.

Watching the video as I'm commenting, probably not the best idea. Still don't know what that is, even with the close ups.

I thought it was a hairclip, it loops round the top string.

Think Ogmor is right, looks like a large barrette, the cheap kind you can get at CVS etc.

coupla good tashi things over on the FMA: http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Tashi_Dorji/

for the record here are my fave ilx-brigade kinda things of 2014. the usuals!

Chris Forsyth & The Solar Motel Band - Intensity Ghost
Nathan Bowles - Nansemond
Steve Gunn - Way Out Weather
Daniel Bachman - Orange Co. Serenade
William Tyler - Lost Colony
Tashi Dorji - s/t
Don Bikoff - Hallowed Ground
Mike & Cara Gangloff - Black Ribbon of Death, Silver Thread of Life
Alvarius B. / Sir Richard Bishop - If You Don’t Like It … Don’t!
Bill Orcutt - VDSQ
Sir Richard Bishop - VDSQ
Anthony Pasquarosa - VDSQ
Robbie Basho - Art of the Acoustic Steel String Guitar 12 & 6
Smoke Dawson - Fiddle

more singer-songwriter-y things, but joan shelley (feat. nathan salsburg on some tracks) and ryley walker LPs are recommended too!

shit i forgot about bikoff

also you might say me and global are slightly excited about playing this show

http://first-avenue.com/event/2015/01/americanprimitive

nice!
yeah, if you ignore the bikoff cover art, it's a really nice record.

that amy in quebec track is so close to wine&roses/red pony/approaching of the disco void its almost a cover

was watching some fahey live on youtube last night...here's an 81 gig, with apparently Michael Hedges opening (sorry folks no records available didn't get pressed in time)...Fahey is being really smarmy in his banter, the set itself verges from awkward to hypnotic, found his flopping down combover hair kind of distracting

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VP08Y3DsJvs

this is a 2000 set, he does a lot of dicking around/joking around at the beginning, but about the 7:40 mark on he gets going and it's actually pretty cool
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5jXrutGt2U

We going the "https:..." route to skip embeds? Not that I don't love opening this thread to shots of Fahey at his weirdest ....

oops sorry

A leaner/meaner thread for 2015 I guess. I'll miss the Fahey gut though.

Transmissions Fest footage is new to me, awesome. I wish more people openly talked about his later work without full on the talk of "well, I don't know about this, but look at what he used to do." The only thing that I can't fully grasp is the Hitomi material, some of it is played in that Transmissions Fest video. Kinda feel like it goes down easier when you get to watch him play like that, on record is another thing. There is another noodley electric gig on youtube that actually does have a lot of syncopation; and getting to hear old styles on an electric is pretty nice. There aren't many artists that went so far in the other direction, let alone an instance where you get to watch past material with a new technique. Defiantly would rather have had Fahey do all that then not. I dig The Mill Pond lots. It's not too different than some of the stuff that is out there today. Womblife gets so zonked in parts you can't help but grin.

Loving this Glenn Jones tune, "The Teething Necklace (For John Fahey)"
xxx.youtube.com/watch?v=6qd7pWITPQQ

Couple things I put together,

John Fahey's Adelphi Sessions, the Dance of Death outtakes. Uploaded as MP3's, posted on my blog:
http://broadcastsfrompoorfarm.tumblr.com/post/105403178308/john-fahey-adelphi-sessions-the-dance-of-death

Scanned my copy of the mail order catalog from Fonotone Records, interesting curio. Includes the numerous early Fahey comps Joe Bussard curated for Fonotone.
http://broadcastsfrompoorfarm.tumblr.com/post/105401770173/fonotone-records-mail-order-catalog-pdf-booklet

I finally put together some new lapstyle material and wanted to share it here. "Blue For al-Watawit of Yashkur" sits as is, in a sorta demo state. I didn't want to forget all the new ideas I've been having, yet also told myself I wouldn't record again until I bought a nice microphone. Of course, I got impatient, so here we are. Before they find a home somewhere, I do want to properly record them.
http://raglore.com/album/blue-for-al-watawit-of-yashkur

Link for the MP3's are posted here,
http://broadcastsfrompoorfarm.tumblr.com/post/105403934713/rag-lore-blue-for-al-watawit-of

Look forward to checking this stuff out

Cool, thanks Neal! Actually already listened to your "Blue For al-Watawit of Yashkur" tracks (Mr. Avant Ghetto threw them up on twitter yesterday), really enjoyed them. First track sucked me right in, so yeah make a recording you are happy with and I am on board!

neal - or others - what microphones/mic pres do you guys use? this coming year i need to get serious about recording an album

like your new stuff neal

the only Tashi Dorji song on Spotify is a cool little curio, electronic remix featuring his guitar of a song by some psychey dude name Al Lover

http://open.spotify.com/track/2HxzI5VuTvgdbTGolZ7x7G

Thanks dudes, I have always just been using a portable digital Tascam recorder from B&H Photo that I bought a while back. It fits in your pocket so I've used it while out and walking around, but it's not a good choice for recording guitar at this point, I loved it at first bc of how much of an improvement it was over using the internal MacBook mic. I sold my two amps (+all other musical electronics) years ago during collage, which I regret now. As I would like to record traditionally with a mic and amp set up. Either using the sound hole or install a pick up. How about USB mics? Been talked about here before I think. Decent clarity from the models available now?

I think the solution is to just meet someone in town with a set up :) - that way I can avoid all of this.

I've posted things upthread recorded with the Blue Yeti (120 new but you can def find a ton of these used on ebay, got mine for 80 on craigslist)
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=&sku=857749&gclid=Cj0KEQiA8MSkBRCP5LaRlcOAusMBEiQAiqldkgFeoLzZuCr_Hg1GQ03TBk1qSggFdqEqo5fQpNn1jLgaAgF98P8HAQ&is=REG&Q=&A=details

you can hear the stuff i've done, which is minimally processed, a bit EQd and maybe compressed slighty with some audicity plugin reverb on it, but overall I'd say USB mics have come a long way

of course, I'm just plotting about how I want to get a USB DAC/Mic pre unit and a better XLR mic so I suppose one is always unsatisfied.

gonna check out yr new thing neal! i've dug the rag lore things i've heard so far.
just got hipped to this thing via soft abuse's twitter -- maybe it was mentioned on the old thread? https://moonbros.bandcamp.com/album/frijolillo - kind of low-key/dreamy/fieldrecording-y/acoustic action. i like it!

Neal there is also a USB model of the Blue Spark which is supposed to be great on acoustics

JXF's What in the Natural World is great, haven't heard the new one

got to see him open for Joan Shelley in front of about 25 ppl and was instantly charmed

anyone read that White Tears book from last year? I didn't think it was particularly great, but it did deal with some of that overall mentality.

― tylerw, Friday, October 19, 2018 3:42 PM (eight months ago)

Just read that White Tears novel . Flawed but it does make some good points re how some collectors are...

i liked it....goes a bit off the rails but man he gets the details of the 78s weirdos down really good

this was just posted on FB, Charlie Schmidt's set of adaptations of Fahey songs at 1000 Incarnations of the Rose
this is really beautiful, as global said it felt the closest to seeing Fahey live as you could get, without being just slavish imitaion

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuvyCY_43y8

Hey how was the Ilx all stars show?

it went really well!
felt good for a first show
the forsyth lineup might been my fav ever, had a more minimal Chicago rock vibe

we should have a recording of it soon

sweeeeet
i missed the forsyth show when they came through chicago and was bummed bc of the lineup. i haven't met a jaime fennelly musical endeavor that i haven't liked. the mind over mirrors performance at the MCA was esp memorable

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGeOc2_ii70

talk about lineups, geez louise

show was a blast, so fun, felt great

and yeah schmidt explores new contexts of fahey's stuff and embodies the material with unique vigor, which is a totally fahey thing to do. i can see why fahey used him as his mimic for a few tracks

jamie said he was letting mind over mirrors sit for a little while after bellowing sun, i can see why- that is definitely the peak and of everything he had done prior seemed to be leading to that. his additions to the band were subtle but great (maybe partially due to the sound system at the venue but it settled in after a bit)

it was great, doug is such a great bassist him and arif from brokeback on drums gave it an almost krauty, motorik feel instead of classic rock

if i had one complaint is that the PA set up was vocals only, so nothing was mic'd and i wish i could have heard the keyboards better, he seemed to be doing some really cool stuff and i wished it would have cut through more

i'm sure it's relaxing to play a more supporting role/have a break after that -- it was a huge endeavor!

my only gripe about the show here is that the lineup (as advertised) provided 0 women the opportunity to be heard and seen playing music.

neither did ours tbh :/

smh :(

posted to the Fahey FB group, Holden Rush, young kid from Chapel Hill, really refined player

https://holdenruch.bandcamp.com/album/guitar-isms-in-an-american-primitive-style?fbclid=IwAR016K1LSM9GWifwBo3BjdFVhwppAfJDGw_h1ukUr6h7uno4MJd0J0hGI-8

https://delta-slider.blogspot.com/2019/08/john-fahey-unissued-studio-sessions-1977.html?fbclid=IwAR0eZ3FwJcH4xt_gtXlWUVbHsWkGJF2vURjlviJRBGND973HqpcrNw8hwWk&m=1

!!!

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!

this is the holy grail

holy shit

I'm crying at my desk lol. it's beyond embarrassing how huge this is for me. I've been dreaming about these recordings for 16 years. and it starts with the softest possible version of melody mcbad/ananaias. oh man, my heart

had you read rumors about their existence before? this is all new to me....so far it's wonderful

lol @ ilx connection of 77 sessions

yeah the fahey site had the info, I'd mentioned them on ilx before. I need a lie down

this is beautiful stuff, so happy you got to hear it :)

it's partly the fidelity of the tape but these don't sound at all like I imagined, there's this kind of gentle remove to them. he sounds so serene!

so nice — i should be seeing scott from delta slider soon, i will buy him a beer for all of us.

what the hell is this bossa nova track?! it almost doesn't sound like fahey. has a bit of "the waltz that carried us away..." about it and then it becomes actual bossa nova (sort of)

xp tyler please do!

hare krishna 1 & bossa nova 2 are much more like I imagined: full blooded and bright and more rhythmic, with a slight Latin tinge a la sandy on earth. makes me daydream abt the parallel universe in which Fahey kept his health and his audience in the 80s and went off to make more south american influenced music

does anyone know who owns these recordings? the quality is so terrible I wonder if they could be cleaned up/if a better quality copy exists. would love a professional release

man there are some great moments in that long "melody brennan"

man this is great. definitely expands the vernacular he was operating in during this period. much like 'god time and causality' contains stuff unlike anything else he did.

This is very exciting to me

https://www.temporaryresidence.com/products/trr336?fbclid=IwAR3zYd1RYApG6RPDKCfB6IZSWIvUzSa02F88cJGocJr2_YeSFvau8XauXQE

sounds great -- almost a cocteau twins vibe.

it doesn't quite fit here or anywhere else but I think some of you would really enjoy the Kumio Kurachi album, Sound of Turning Earth that's been put out on Bison. he's been going for decades but this is his first release outside japan. very nimble, fresh, flowing playing with a clean sounding electric guitar using koto tunings. produced by jim o'rourke. the most beautiful CD packaging I've seen in a long time. been gradually growing on me.

https://bison-records.bandcamp.com/album/sound-of-turning-earth

https://f4.bcbits.com/img/a1225969011_10.jpg

This is fantastic!

I love that artwork.

what do ppl make of the latest Hayden Pedigo album Valley of the Sun? he's got such a distinctive tone. this one is darker & has a lot more good atmospheric gumpth but still has that same gorgeous sleepy feel. not sure I like it quite as much as Greetings from Amarillo yet, but I came to really love that one over time.

Not a connoisseur of this subgenre by any stretch and I've yet to hear his previous releases but I quite like Valley of the Sun.

somehow haven't checked out hayden's new one ... will have to fix that.

I feel like I never hear about his records until they've been out for a few months

keep coming back to Isasa's Insilio, it's so simple but there's a beguiling timelessness to it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZakgIJw0B0

Psyched to see Isasa live this week and catch some of that beguiling timelessness in action! Really looking forward to it.

^^yes—wish I could see it as well. everyone who can should try to catch him and Magic Tuber Stringband on their US tour. Evan and Courtney's MTSB material is v good.

there's been a dude named Jon Monday who worked at Takoma that's been posting some really cool stuff on Fahey/Takoma/the general intersections of weirdo ppl in the late 60s/early 70s on the John Fahey Facebook group

Also---- CHECK THIS SHIT OUT...another dude who posts a lot of old scans posted this from '65 Berkeley....So it looks like Fahey played a show with Bob Dylan in disguise billed as "Tedham Porterhouse" - a pseudonym he used on a Ramblin' Jack Elliot record....if so, what a fucking crazy show

https://i.postimg.cc/YSHxLkcR/68767931-2796884800324865-5760716845304774656-o.jpg

holy fuck this kumio kurachi rules

xp lol, wonder who the dylan impersonator was ... bob himself was in chicago
http://www.bjorner.com/DSN00785%20(65)-filer/image215.jpg

haha ah too bad, Dylan is so weird you never know

I bet it was Fahey doing a second set

Conrado and Magic Tuber String Band both played great sets. Really complimentary and excellent playing all around. Was psyched to grab a copy of "Insilio" and the MTSB tape on Blue Hole as well. Think I will listen to "Insilio" a lot, as the compositions are very sturdy and interesting without being as fatiguing (for lack of a better word). While I like a lot of more active / wild / technically proficient players, for repeated listening I can really appreciate records that sit in a more measured, casually artful place. Not saying this well, but just noting that I think I will return to this one a lot.