ILX Gonna Shine in My Backdoor Someday (new post-Fahey folk for ppl posting in Takoma/Tompkins Square threads Pt II)

Lots of new releases lately but other thread getting big and unwieldy and a resource hog. So! New thread for weird Fahey-esque instrumental folk guitar.

What did we have so far this year? Highlights for me:

William Tyler- Lost Colony (the kraut-country thing gets me going)
Steve Gunn- Way Out Weather
Nathan Bowles- Nansemond
Chris Forsyth- Intensity Ghost (think overall I liked Solar Motel better but I'm glad this one seems to be taking off)
Tashi Dorji- S/T

Seems like a lot of these folks made it into the limelight this year! And new Six Organs looks to be a monster.

Can we keep the Youtube embedding to a minimum in this incarnation? You can prevent them from embedding by having "https:" as opposed to just "http:" in the URL

thank you! I'll post a link on the old one unless someone does it first

am I correct that the Tashi Dorji S/T is older stuff compiled? really liked the new EP on Bandcamp page.

re: Richard Dawson, was gonna say that I hear a lot of Bill Orcutt's influence/style in his playing, anybody else? (sorry if this was noted previously)

― some kind of terrible IDM with guitars (sleeve), Saturday, December 13, 2014 11:41 AM

also ppl were talking about richard dawson, don't want to derail!

lol no worries there

doing some EOY catchup and I am not feeling this Steve Gunn at all, threadban me if you must

liked the Solar Motel (2 tracks on Spotify), really liked the new Tashi Dorji EP.

am I correct that the Tashi Dorji S/T is older stuff compiled?
yeah, pulled from several years' worth of cassette iirc. kind of a "greatest hits," i guess. he really is great, seems to get better every time i play his stuff.

sleeve - yeah a ton of orcutt & not to be super cynical but he seems to be getting a lot of praise from ppl I don't get the sense really know Orcutt

But i do like him

I just think it's a little like how when I finally heard gang of four reissues after growing up a fugazi fan

Oh hey folks.

Sleeve, that Gunn record definitely is a very specific kind of cool to me, I get why it wouldn't appeal to you. It is mostly very low-key and its charms can be extremely subtle, but I have personally found it to be deep and varied enough that I return to it pretty frequently. Maybe it'll grow on you, but it is definitely a song-based record that doesn't try to push the musicality as far as a lot of records touched on in this thread (and many of Gunn's other records do).

yeah i was actually wondering recently what I would think of gunn's latest if it was the first record of his I had heard. the context of his gradual development into a more straight-ahead singer-songwriter adds some flavor I think (if that makes sense). love the latest but at the same time, i hope he hasn't left behind his more avant leanings -- those gunn-truscinski records are still my faves out of everything he's done.

hey i have a question -- how do you pronounce cian of the name cian nugent?

rather how does one pronounce cian accurately

i thought it was like cyan but then realized it could be sean or shee-an or idk what and i would like to know

Kee An

i thought it was just pronounced "sean" for years though.

Like Ian preceded with a /k/ ?
Good to know! I have been meaning to ask this question for months.

yes, exactly!

haha apparently lots of blog posters and show hosters feel the need to lay this to rest too:
http://i61.tinypic.com/vgmyht.png

The Gunn/Mike Cooper and Gunn/Gangloff records both came out this year I think, and both contain a good range of playing outside of his "Way Out Weather" mode. It will be interesting to see what side of the divide the upcoming Gunn/Black Twig Pickers record will ride, but my guess is I will dig it. Hope some of it revisits this territory though:

http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Black_Twig_Pickers_and_Steve_Gunn/NATCH_1/Salted_Caramel

Global mentioned notable records from this year, and I wanna bring up Bachman's "Orange Co. Serenade". Really enjoyed it & definitely revisit it pretty frequently. Feel like he is growing and really may be just hitting his stride now, though who knows. New record on Three Lobed apparently out in April or May. Saw him Saturday night and the new songs were great, no reason not to believe that this next record will be anything other than really good.

dammit I forgot about that in my EOY listening binge this weekend, will check it out!

fwiw my introduction to Gunn was his side of the "Not The Spaces You Know..." comp, which I loved

oh yeah, shouldn't have forgotten the Daniel Bachman one! I think I've come around on that one, seems like the most cohesive release he's done so far.

Also Charlie Parr doesn't usually fit in this thread but he did a release this year that definitely does. It's called Hollandale- some really nicely recorded exploratory fingerpicked instrumentals. All on a National resonator, which sounds awesome/immense at times. Some cool sounds and textures added... anyway, may have been overlooked in this thread... It's on Spotify

Has this been shared yet? HD video of Tashi playing on WFMU, last September.

vimeo.com/wfmu/review/106853495/6f23ec5808

gamelan for guitar

awesome

Whatever he's got there on the neck is partially under certain strings and on top of others. He accidentally bumps into it at one point and it seems very loose. I thought it was a capo at first. Such crazy sounds coming out of that guitar.

Watching the video as I'm commenting, probably not the best idea. Still don't know what that is, even with the close ups.

I thought it was a hairclip, it loops round the top string.

Think Ogmor is right, looks like a large barrette, the cheap kind you can get at CVS etc.

coupla good tashi things over on the FMA: http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Tashi_Dorji/

for the record here are my fave ilx-brigade kinda things of 2014. the usuals!

Chris Forsyth & The Solar Motel Band - Intensity Ghost
Nathan Bowles - Nansemond
Steve Gunn - Way Out Weather
Daniel Bachman - Orange Co. Serenade
William Tyler - Lost Colony
Tashi Dorji - s/t
Don Bikoff - Hallowed Ground
Mike & Cara Gangloff - Black Ribbon of Death, Silver Thread of Life
Alvarius B. / Sir Richard Bishop - If You Don’t Like It … Don’t!
Bill Orcutt - VDSQ
Sir Richard Bishop - VDSQ
Anthony Pasquarosa - VDSQ
Robbie Basho - Art of the Acoustic Steel String Guitar 12 & 6
Smoke Dawson - Fiddle

more singer-songwriter-y things, but joan shelley (feat. nathan salsburg on some tracks) and ryley walker LPs are recommended too!

shit i forgot about bikoff

also you might say me and global are slightly excited about playing this show

http://first-avenue.com/event/2015/01/americanprimitive

nice!
yeah, if you ignore the bikoff cover art, it's a really nice record.

that amy in quebec track is so close to wine&roses/red pony/approaching of the disco void its almost a cover

was watching some fahey live on youtube last night...here's an 81 gig, with apparently Michael Hedges opening (sorry folks no records available didn't get pressed in time)...Fahey is being really smarmy in his banter, the set itself verges from awkward to hypnotic, found his flopping down combover hair kind of distracting

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VP08Y3DsJvs

this is a 2000 set, he does a lot of dicking around/joking around at the beginning, but about the 7:40 mark on he gets going and it's actually pretty cool
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5jXrutGt2U

We going the "https:..." route to skip embeds? Not that I don't love opening this thread to shots of Fahey at his weirdest ....

oops sorry

A leaner/meaner thread for 2015 I guess. I'll miss the Fahey gut though.

Transmissions Fest footage is new to me, awesome. I wish more people openly talked about his later work without full on the talk of "well, I don't know about this, but look at what he used to do." The only thing that I can't fully grasp is the Hitomi material, some of it is played in that Transmissions Fest video. Kinda feel like it goes down easier when you get to watch him play like that, on record is another thing. There is another noodley electric gig on youtube that actually does have a lot of syncopation; and getting to hear old styles on an electric is pretty nice. There aren't many artists that went so far in the other direction, let alone an instance where you get to watch past material with a new technique. Defiantly would rather have had Fahey do all that then not. I dig The Mill Pond lots. It's not too different than some of the stuff that is out there today. Womblife gets so zonked in parts you can't help but grin.

Loving this Glenn Jones tune, "The Teething Necklace (For John Fahey)"
xxx.youtube.com/watch?v=6qd7pWITPQQ

Couple things I put together,

John Fahey's Adelphi Sessions, the Dance of Death outtakes. Uploaded as MP3's, posted on my blog:
http://broadcastsfrompoorfarm.tumblr.com/post/105403178308/john-fahey-adelphi-sessions-the-dance-of-death

Scanned my copy of the mail order catalog from Fonotone Records, interesting curio. Includes the numerous early Fahey comps Joe Bussard curated for Fonotone.
http://broadcastsfrompoorfarm.tumblr.com/post/105401770173/fonotone-records-mail-order-catalog-pdf-booklet

I finally put together some new lapstyle material and wanted to share it here. "Blue For al-Watawit of Yashkur" sits as is, in a sorta demo state. I didn't want to forget all the new ideas I've been having, yet also told myself I wouldn't record again until I bought a nice microphone. Of course, I got impatient, so here we are. Before they find a home somewhere, I do want to properly record them.
http://raglore.com/album/blue-for-al-watawit-of-yashkur

Link for the MP3's are posted here,
http://broadcastsfrompoorfarm.tumblr.com/post/105403934713/rag-lore-blue-for-al-watawit-of

Look forward to checking this stuff out

Cool, thanks Neal! Actually already listened to your "Blue For al-Watawit of Yashkur" tracks (Mr. Avant Ghetto threw them up on twitter yesterday), really enjoyed them. First track sucked me right in, so yeah make a recording you are happy with and I am on board!

neal - or others - what microphones/mic pres do you guys use? this coming year i need to get serious about recording an album

like your new stuff neal

the only Tashi Dorji song on Spotify is a cool little curio, electronic remix featuring his guitar of a song by some psychey dude name Al Lover

http://open.spotify.com/track/2HxzI5VuTvgdbTGolZ7x7G

Thanks dudes, I have always just been using a portable digital Tascam recorder from B&H Photo that I bought a while back. It fits in your pocket so I've used it while out and walking around, but it's not a good choice for recording guitar at this point, I loved it at first bc of how much of an improvement it was over using the internal MacBook mic. I sold my two amps (+all other musical electronics) years ago during collage, which I regret now. As I would like to record traditionally with a mic and amp set up. Either using the sound hole or install a pick up. How about USB mics? Been talked about here before I think. Decent clarity from the models available now?

I think the solution is to just meet someone in town with a set up :) - that way I can avoid all of this.

I've posted things upthread recorded with the Blue Yeti (120 new but you can def find a ton of these used on ebay, got mine for 80 on craigslist)
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=&sku=857749&gclid=Cj0KEQiA8MSkBRCP5LaRlcOAusMBEiQAiqldkgFeoLzZuCr_Hg1GQ03TBk1qSggFdqEqo5fQpNn1jLgaAgF98P8HAQ&is=REG&Q=&A=details

you can hear the stuff i've done, which is minimally processed, a bit EQd and maybe compressed slighty with some audicity plugin reverb on it, but overall I'd say USB mics have come a long way

of course, I'm just plotting about how I want to get a USB DAC/Mic pre unit and a better XLR mic so I suppose one is always unsatisfied.

gonna check out yr new thing neal! i've dug the rag lore things i've heard so far.
just got hipped to this thing via soft abuse's twitter -- maybe it was mentioned on the old thread? https://moonbros.bandcamp.com/album/frijolillo - kind of low-key/dreamy/fieldrecording-y/acoustic action. i like it!

Neal there is also a USB model of the Blue Spark which is supposed to be great on acoustics

yeah hope it gives steve a little breathing room!

Oh yeah, zero judgment from me. Licensing is one of the only good ways for a musician to make decent money these days, I hope Steve got a good chunk of change for it. I just love the McLurker joke (I would not call it this anywhere but in my mind, but I will enjoy it when I do)

Haha!

Lol I love Steve (both of them for that matter). My life interests do naturally gravitate me towards keeping a running list of commercials that've used guitar tracks we all know and love. I chose to work in commercial art for a reason so no judgement there. From GHQ cdrs, to the Sundowner LP on Harvest, to the ltd to 25 lathe on Medusa, to commercial licensing--I'm here for the ride and will never step off!

just in general, i love all the back-end, business-type stuff about the music industry.

so in that spirit (no judgment), how much do y'all think that commercial put/will put in SG's pocket?

I remember being surprised by Revolt of the Dyke Brigade by Fahey at the end of Logan Lucky

Ok the new Sarah Louise song is absolutely stunning

https://open.spotify.com/track/26O1vE8RNEjr8WLRjJIYKZ?si=FMq5-C81RV2vJd8BWftbxQ

I absolutely love this

https://youtu.be/1D2-IsOPoE4

― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, May 24, 2020 8:20 PM (two weeks ago) bookmarkflaglink

I emailed this link to Glenn and he really liked it. Said the guy deserves to have a VDSQ release!

wow let's speak it into existence!

Tbis is probably gonna sound dickish, but I do not click Spotify links. So, anything posted here as such is an idea and nothing else. So, if it truly rules and deserves recognition tell me about it and where else I can find it. No rules and yet, sum dumbasses like me exist ....

Not dickish at all - I'm in the same boat. I've even clicked the links to try to view the tracklists and stuff but I guess you can't even see those without having an account, which I do not.

Well, thanks for indulging me P. Ponzi, but yeah it kinda is. Sheesh, I am an adult I can just google stuff like anyone else. UMS, you rule please don't take that original post as being aimed at you, it is squarely aimed at Spotify generally (still not gonna click a Spotify link, but that is my issue ....)

I am just basically in a bad mood a lot these days, and for some reason decide to post when I am in that mood. Will try not to take it out on this thread, which generally is a place of cool people simply sharing shit they like, which is something to be appreciated. So yeah, I will try to knock it off hah hah.

it's part of this mixtape — https://www.adultswim.com/music/as-stimulus-swim

no worries

I would usually post YouTube but it's not there or on her Bandcamp I could only find it on Spotify

tbf sarah louise posted the spotify link on her twitter

Oh yeah I was being dumb. Hopefully it pops up somewhere else at some point. Cool that Adult Swim is linking off to everyone's site.

it's a way off yet but this is the august issue of wire magazine:

The cover of the issue will be another of our special multipart features, this one being a survey of the current state of fingerpicking guitar. At the heart of the feature will be interviews with three instrumentalists who transform atavistic American folk forms into 21st century cosmic music, namely Marisa Anderson and C Joynes, who will be profiled by fellow guitarists James Toth (aka Wooden Wand) and Bruce Russell (of The Dead C), and Sarah Louise who talks to our reporter Abi Bliss. We will also be reconsidering some of fingerpicking guitar’s various historical manifestations, including Val Wilmer on the enigma of Davey Graham, Glenn Jones on the key matter of tuning, and Jennifer Lucy Allen on the fashions and philosophies of Robbie Basho.

new rhyton is really enjoyable

https://rhyton.bandcamp.com/album/kraters-call

gotta get that, love rhyton.

would take a whole record of salsburg / tyler / riles : https://nathansalsburg.bandcamp.com/track/second-moon

jim elkington has put two new solo recordings on his bandcamp presumably because bandcamp is doing the thing again tomorrow where they waive their fees and all proceeds go direct to the artist. the songs (one of which is a zombies cover!) are awesome. really good.

the new Fabiano Nascimento is quite lovely perhaps https://fabianodonascimento.bandcamp.com/album/prel-dio-2

Marisa Anderson coves "The White Lady Loves You More" by Elliot Smith, predictably gorgeous

https://www.brooklynvegan.com/listen-to-marisa-andersons-cover-of-elliott-smiths-the-white-lady-loves-you-more/

August issue of The Wire has a cover story about Cosmic Guitar, which I am assuming is a primer, featuring Marissa Anderson, Sarah Louise, Gwenifer Raymond, Robbie Basho, Davey Graham and C. Joynes. Also has a Lonnie Holley article I'd love to read. Too bad I currently have no idea where to find a copy of The Wire. Still upset about missing the Tangerine Dream issue too. Does anyone here still subscribe? I'm actually tempted but since I have no idea when I will ever work again it's not really in the cards

Saw that, really want it but don't know where to buy it either

I bought the Wire at Barnes & Noble the other day, it was the Feb issue with Wire on the cover, it has always been a couple months behind the UK, I imagine with the current state of the world it is even further behind.

I consider myself a novice w/r/t all things this thread is for, but one of my most played and loved albums of this year is Matt LaJoie's 'Everlasting Spring'. Anyone have any recommendations with a similar vibe? Is his previous work as good?

He / his label has gotten so prolific I have trouble keeping up, but I do know that every Herbcraft release I've heard was great. (LaJoie is / was in Herbcraft.)

His previous official solo album The Center and the Fringe is wonderful, too: https://flowerroomrecords.bandcamp.com/album/the-center-and-the-fringe

I don't know if this will be similar vibe-y enough, but it feels of the same universe to me. I've been obsessed with Ezra Feinberg's Recumbent Speech the past couple of weeks: https://ezrafeinberg.bandcamp.com/album/recumbent-speech

Rather than keep naming stuff, I'll get out of the way, because there are lots of people on this thread that will have perfect recommendations for you. :)

not familiar with LaJoie, just listened sounds great

Chuck Johnson has gradually transformed from a fingerstyle player to basically full on ambient soundscapes....I think Velvet Arc catches him in a midpoint on that journey that you would like. Would also say Crows in the Basilica is just an amazing album as is Blood Moon Boulder, when he was more straight acoustic

another guy I think falls through the cracks a bit is Alexander Turnquist, his album Flying Fantasy is beautiful and meditative, it's not like Lajoie exactly but might give you similar feelings

there's more will think and post later

Croz big ups Matthew Rolin!!

Actually pretty good ....write some more https://t.co/Twu5L1dfXW

— David Crosby (@thedavidcrosby) July 23, 2020

wonder if croz and fahey ever crossed paths, and if they did, how much they hated each other instantly.

just asked him on Twitter, see if he responds!

can we just get him to post in this thread, though?

getting Croz to be on ILX would complete my life's work

lol yes

Not listened to much Fahey-adjacent stuff in a while but glad I was here for the Matt LaJoie recommendation - lovely record and right in my 'ringing guitarscapes' sweet spot.

In terms of similar sounds, I'd say Dean McPhee would be as good a place as any to start - try Son of the Black Peace (particularly Cloud Forest). I think Scott Tuma would work, too - Not for Nobody is just glorious.

I love Scott Tuma. Also, shout out to those early Boxhead Ensemble records, which sat in a really nice guitar zone for a while there.

Just also noting how wild it is that this thread is SIX YEARS OLD and was started because the original thread got too long and folks decided we should start a new one (which is now really long ....)

I have spent a lot of time with many of you, thanks for being good and enthusiastic listeners and sharers of music. As corny as it sounds, this (and the original thread) have meant a lot to me over the years. Some very good folks in here.

Indeed, good thread, good music. Thanks all.

I have almost posted a few times over the past several months that maybe it's time for post-Fahey thread part III ... this one is getting long (no idea how it compares to part I)

Thanks Alpine and UMS, everyone for the recs!

time for a new thread: The Approaching of the ILX Void vs Stomping Tonight On the Takoma/Tompkins Square Border vs Fare Forward Voyagers (ilxor's choice)

anyone mentioned mark mcguire in the 'ringing guitarscapes' category? he's got a pretty varied approach, but some of it definitely fits.

not really in that category, but good for this thread — i've been loving this one ... https://feedingtuberecords.com/releases/duets/ — basically long jams in the sandy bull / billy higgins vein.

also! this guy, who recently passed away, was on the imaginational private press comp, but the whole record is amazing, just beautiful:

https://www.discogs.com/Herb-Moore-Hinterlands/release/13028354

also! this one is coming out on vinyl via feeding tube, too, but it's a pay what you want download over yonder — really nice spacey stuff

https://blackdirt.bandcamp.com/album/natch-9-wednesday-knudsen-willie-lane

Bless this thread and all who dwell herein.

I loved Herb Moore's track 'Wen Also Found' on the Imaginational Anthem record. Will have to track Hinterlands down.

yeahhhh, if you liked that track, you'll love the rest of it.

https://caliche.bandcamp.com/album/steve-gunn-tom-carter-shawn-mcmillen-live-in-nyc

Steve Gunn, Tom Carter, & Shawn McMillen "Live In NYC" covering JJ Cale (Cryin' Eyes), The Dead (Wharf Rat), and I think MV&EE (Summer Magic) buried in cassette fidelity.

nice!

https://www.gofundme.com/f/fund-for-peter-lang039s-medical-expenses

pretty sad, fuck this country. he has been ailing for so long and it's just one thing after another

poor Peter:(

Ideas of Beginnings by Mark McGuire

Old news but I finally got around to listening to this whole album from 2017. I really like it: good mix of fingerpicked acoustic material and what sounds like delayed ringing electric stuff.