ILX Gonna Shine in My Backdoor Someday (new post-Fahey folk for ppl posting in Takoma/Tompkins Square threads Pt II)

Lots of new releases lately but other thread getting big and unwieldy and a resource hog. So! New thread for weird Fahey-esque instrumental folk guitar.

What did we have so far this year? Highlights for me:

William Tyler- Lost Colony (the kraut-country thing gets me going)
Steve Gunn- Way Out Weather
Nathan Bowles- Nansemond
Chris Forsyth- Intensity Ghost (think overall I liked Solar Motel better but I'm glad this one seems to be taking off)
Tashi Dorji- S/T

Seems like a lot of these folks made it into the limelight this year! And new Six Organs looks to be a monster.

Can we keep the Youtube embedding to a minimum in this incarnation? You can prevent them from embedding by having "https:" as opposed to just "http:" in the URL

thank you! I'll post a link on the old one unless someone does it first

am I correct that the Tashi Dorji S/T is older stuff compiled? really liked the new EP on Bandcamp page.

re: Richard Dawson, was gonna say that I hear a lot of Bill Orcutt's influence/style in his playing, anybody else? (sorry if this was noted previously)

― some kind of terrible IDM with guitars (sleeve), Saturday, December 13, 2014 11:41 AM

also ppl were talking about richard dawson, don't want to derail!

lol no worries there

doing some EOY catchup and I am not feeling this Steve Gunn at all, threadban me if you must

liked the Solar Motel (2 tracks on Spotify), really liked the new Tashi Dorji EP.

am I correct that the Tashi Dorji S/T is older stuff compiled?
yeah, pulled from several years' worth of cassette iirc. kind of a "greatest hits," i guess. he really is great, seems to get better every time i play his stuff.

sleeve - yeah a ton of orcutt & not to be super cynical but he seems to be getting a lot of praise from ppl I don't get the sense really know Orcutt

But i do like him

I just think it's a little like how when I finally heard gang of four reissues after growing up a fugazi fan

Oh hey folks.

Sleeve, that Gunn record definitely is a very specific kind of cool to me, I get why it wouldn't appeal to you. It is mostly very low-key and its charms can be extremely subtle, but I have personally found it to be deep and varied enough that I return to it pretty frequently. Maybe it'll grow on you, but it is definitely a song-based record that doesn't try to push the musicality as far as a lot of records touched on in this thread (and many of Gunn's other records do).

yeah i was actually wondering recently what I would think of gunn's latest if it was the first record of his I had heard. the context of his gradual development into a more straight-ahead singer-songwriter adds some flavor I think (if that makes sense). love the latest but at the same time, i hope he hasn't left behind his more avant leanings -- those gunn-truscinski records are still my faves out of everything he's done.

hey i have a question -- how do you pronounce cian of the name cian nugent?

rather how does one pronounce cian accurately

i thought it was like cyan but then realized it could be sean or shee-an or idk what and i would like to know

Kee An

i thought it was just pronounced "sean" for years though.

Like Ian preceded with a /k/ ?
Good to know! I have been meaning to ask this question for months.

yes, exactly!

haha apparently lots of blog posters and show hosters feel the need to lay this to rest too:
http://i61.tinypic.com/vgmyht.png

The Gunn/Mike Cooper and Gunn/Gangloff records both came out this year I think, and both contain a good range of playing outside of his "Way Out Weather" mode. It will be interesting to see what side of the divide the upcoming Gunn/Black Twig Pickers record will ride, but my guess is I will dig it. Hope some of it revisits this territory though:

http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Black_Twig_Pickers_and_Steve_Gunn/NATCH_1/Salted_Caramel

Global mentioned notable records from this year, and I wanna bring up Bachman's "Orange Co. Serenade". Really enjoyed it & definitely revisit it pretty frequently. Feel like he is growing and really may be just hitting his stride now, though who knows. New record on Three Lobed apparently out in April or May. Saw him Saturday night and the new songs were great, no reason not to believe that this next record will be anything other than really good.

dammit I forgot about that in my EOY listening binge this weekend, will check it out!

fwiw my introduction to Gunn was his side of the "Not The Spaces You Know..." comp, which I loved

oh yeah, shouldn't have forgotten the Daniel Bachman one! I think I've come around on that one, seems like the most cohesive release he's done so far.

Also Charlie Parr doesn't usually fit in this thread but he did a release this year that definitely does. It's called Hollandale- some really nicely recorded exploratory fingerpicked instrumentals. All on a National resonator, which sounds awesome/immense at times. Some cool sounds and textures added... anyway, may have been overlooked in this thread... It's on Spotify

Has this been shared yet? HD video of Tashi playing on WFMU, last September.

vimeo.com/wfmu/review/106853495/6f23ec5808

gamelan for guitar

awesome

Whatever he's got there on the neck is partially under certain strings and on top of others. He accidentally bumps into it at one point and it seems very loose. I thought it was a capo at first. Such crazy sounds coming out of that guitar.

Watching the video as I'm commenting, probably not the best idea. Still don't know what that is, even with the close ups.

I thought it was a hairclip, it loops round the top string.

Think Ogmor is right, looks like a large barrette, the cheap kind you can get at CVS etc.

coupla good tashi things over on the FMA: http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Tashi_Dorji/

for the record here are my fave ilx-brigade kinda things of 2014. the usuals!

Chris Forsyth & The Solar Motel Band - Intensity Ghost
Nathan Bowles - Nansemond
Steve Gunn - Way Out Weather
Daniel Bachman - Orange Co. Serenade
William Tyler - Lost Colony
Tashi Dorji - s/t
Don Bikoff - Hallowed Ground
Mike & Cara Gangloff - Black Ribbon of Death, Silver Thread of Life
Alvarius B. / Sir Richard Bishop - If You Don’t Like It … Don’t!
Bill Orcutt - VDSQ
Sir Richard Bishop - VDSQ
Anthony Pasquarosa - VDSQ
Robbie Basho - Art of the Acoustic Steel String Guitar 12 & 6
Smoke Dawson - Fiddle

more singer-songwriter-y things, but joan shelley (feat. nathan salsburg on some tracks) and ryley walker LPs are recommended too!

shit i forgot about bikoff

also you might say me and global are slightly excited about playing this show

http://first-avenue.com/event/2015/01/americanprimitive

nice!
yeah, if you ignore the bikoff cover art, it's a really nice record.

that amy in quebec track is so close to wine&roses/red pony/approaching of the disco void its almost a cover

was watching some fahey live on youtube last night...here's an 81 gig, with apparently Michael Hedges opening (sorry folks no records available didn't get pressed in time)...Fahey is being really smarmy in his banter, the set itself verges from awkward to hypnotic, found his flopping down combover hair kind of distracting

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VP08Y3DsJvs

this is a 2000 set, he does a lot of dicking around/joking around at the beginning, but about the 7:40 mark on he gets going and it's actually pretty cool
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5jXrutGt2U

We going the "https:..." route to skip embeds? Not that I don't love opening this thread to shots of Fahey at his weirdest ....

oops sorry

A leaner/meaner thread for 2015 I guess. I'll miss the Fahey gut though.

Transmissions Fest footage is new to me, awesome. I wish more people openly talked about his later work without full on the talk of "well, I don't know about this, but look at what he used to do." The only thing that I can't fully grasp is the Hitomi material, some of it is played in that Transmissions Fest video. Kinda feel like it goes down easier when you get to watch him play like that, on record is another thing. There is another noodley electric gig on youtube that actually does have a lot of syncopation; and getting to hear old styles on an electric is pretty nice. There aren't many artists that went so far in the other direction, let alone an instance where you get to watch past material with a new technique. Defiantly would rather have had Fahey do all that then not. I dig The Mill Pond lots. It's not too different than some of the stuff that is out there today. Womblife gets so zonked in parts you can't help but grin.

Loving this Glenn Jones tune, "The Teething Necklace (For John Fahey)"
xxx.youtube.com/watch?v=6qd7pWITPQQ

Couple things I put together,

John Fahey's Adelphi Sessions, the Dance of Death outtakes. Uploaded as MP3's, posted on my blog:
http://broadcastsfrompoorfarm.tumblr.com/post/105403178308/john-fahey-adelphi-sessions-the-dance-of-death

Scanned my copy of the mail order catalog from Fonotone Records, interesting curio. Includes the numerous early Fahey comps Joe Bussard curated for Fonotone.
http://broadcastsfrompoorfarm.tumblr.com/post/105401770173/fonotone-records-mail-order-catalog-pdf-booklet

I finally put together some new lapstyle material and wanted to share it here. "Blue For al-Watawit of Yashkur" sits as is, in a sorta demo state. I didn't want to forget all the new ideas I've been having, yet also told myself I wouldn't record again until I bought a nice microphone. Of course, I got impatient, so here we are. Before they find a home somewhere, I do want to properly record them.
http://raglore.com/album/blue-for-al-watawit-of-yashkur

Link for the MP3's are posted here,
http://broadcastsfrompoorfarm.tumblr.com/post/105403934713/rag-lore-blue-for-al-watawit-of

Look forward to checking this stuff out

Cool, thanks Neal! Actually already listened to your "Blue For al-Watawit of Yashkur" tracks (Mr. Avant Ghetto threw them up on twitter yesterday), really enjoyed them. First track sucked me right in, so yeah make a recording you are happy with and I am on board!

neal - or others - what microphones/mic pres do you guys use? this coming year i need to get serious about recording an album

like your new stuff neal

the only Tashi Dorji song on Spotify is a cool little curio, electronic remix featuring his guitar of a song by some psychey dude name Al Lover

http://open.spotify.com/track/2HxzI5VuTvgdbTGolZ7x7G

Thanks dudes, I have always just been using a portable digital Tascam recorder from B&H Photo that I bought a while back. It fits in your pocket so I've used it while out and walking around, but it's not a good choice for recording guitar at this point, I loved it at first bc of how much of an improvement it was over using the internal MacBook mic. I sold my two amps (+all other musical electronics) years ago during collage, which I regret now. As I would like to record traditionally with a mic and amp set up. Either using the sound hole or install a pick up. How about USB mics? Been talked about here before I think. Decent clarity from the models available now?

I think the solution is to just meet someone in town with a set up :) - that way I can avoid all of this.

I've posted things upthread recorded with the Blue Yeti (120 new but you can def find a ton of these used on ebay, got mine for 80 on craigslist)
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=&sku=857749&gclid=Cj0KEQiA8MSkBRCP5LaRlcOAusMBEiQAiqldkgFeoLzZuCr_Hg1GQ03TBk1qSggFdqEqo5fQpNn1jLgaAgF98P8HAQ&is=REG&Q=&A=details

you can hear the stuff i've done, which is minimally processed, a bit EQd and maybe compressed slighty with some audicity plugin reverb on it, but overall I'd say USB mics have come a long way

of course, I'm just plotting about how I want to get a USB DAC/Mic pre unit and a better XLR mic so I suppose one is always unsatisfied.

gonna check out yr new thing neal! i've dug the rag lore things i've heard so far.
just got hipped to this thing via soft abuse's twitter -- maybe it was mentioned on the old thread? https://moonbros.bandcamp.com/album/frijolillo - kind of low-key/dreamy/fieldrecording-y/acoustic action. i like it!

Neal there is also a USB model of the Blue Spark which is supposed to be great on acoustics

was just thinking about Date Palms yesterday for the first time in a while ... love 'em

okay after taking in the whole thing, the rest of that duncan marquiss isn't in the same vein as the first droney track at all.

it gets way better.☺ thanks jon for the word.

the transition from about the last minute of "c sweeps" into the first 30 seconds of "fixed action patterns" is an absolutely perfect moment.

this album is really good.

Yeah, it really reveals quite a few different moods, it's wonderful. Thanks for the tip on Date Palms! Not sure how I missed that one because it came out right when I was big into Thrill Jockey stuff, but I remedied that today and placed an order before I was two tracks into sampling it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugptv2YCIV0

gonna check that later, evan. thanks!

nothing new, but did ya'll like pullman? listening to the second album again this morning. so effortlessly pleasant.

Happy New Joseph Allred Album Day

Sea of Stars, the new solo Matthew J. Rolin thing on Ryley Walker's label is gorgeous, really love it. One forty minute track of 12-strong guitar beauty.

the new solo Matthew J. Rolin thing on Ryley Walker's label

When I was looking into that the other week it reminded me to check up on what Husky Pants has been doing lately and there's another recent good guitar record by Moon Bros called "Le Jaz Mystique"

https://moonbros.bandcamp.com/album/le-jaz-mystique

That Moon Bros. was cool, thanks for the pointer. Had seen that name bumping around for a while but hadn't checked any out until now. Very nice action on it.

Not sure who is checking in here these days (certainly not me much, but that is just due to me trying to be online a bit less, not due to not liking this site any more or anything ...)

Anyway, just wanna say congrats to global and UMS as those two Cassini tracks RIP! Really cool mix of lots of winning moves, and great playing all around.

For any not tagging along already, you can go dive in over here:

https://cassinimpls.bandcamp.com/releases

Truly enjoyable, I imagine anyone who still checks in with this thread will find tons to like about it.

thanks grandavis!!! our couple shows this weekend felt amazing, they were recorded too. a lot more to come, including a duo mostly-acoustic LP that bandmate and pal m*tt be*chey are really proud of under 'slow clarity' moniker

Hell yeah man, all great to hear! Look forward to listening to all of it! Very psyched on that duo LP!

All those folks (Jon Camp/The Caribbean folks) are buddies who I have played with multiple times, so I wish I could have made it. Looked like a great line-up.

I need to do something with my life...

Looking forward to listening thanks for the heads up grandavis!

this Cassini shit RULES and reminds me of the mighty F/i in places, damn y'all

just played it on actual FM radio earlier today if u check Spinitron dot com for KWVA at 5 PM

Hah sure thing, I thought many who have tagged along with this thread over the years would enjoy it, but honestly it rules as just plain good rock music regardless of the fact that it has two of the people who regularly post(ed) in this thread involved. It has way more energy and legit cool guitar moves (coming from many good angles, I especially like that it is a bit raw and barely-contained at times, keeps it from sounding too "nice" to me). Gonna have to check out F/i Sleeve!

May as well throw one of my own things here, which I used to do, but I actually got a little write-up for one of my releases in Bandcamp Daily recently too.

https://daily.bandcamp.com/best-experimental/the-best-experimental-music-on-bandcamp-june-2022

Anyone who cares here probably knows kind of what I get up to when I play, but this one I think is probably my best effort yet of making more of an "album" as opposed to just doing what I do when I play live.

If I was a label I would be trying to get you Cassini boys to lay out a full length. Maybe that is in the works. Hope so ....

like grandavis i've been trying to pull back from the internet/social media in general but global showed me this and wanted to pop in and say thanks so much to everyone for the kind words of support. (and sleeve for playing us!)

we have a ton of recorded practices, a reel to reel recording, live stuff, and a brief studio date so hopefully more to come.

the shows were so fun with a great sense of community. i really love playing in this band, it always feels pretty natural. at our best i think we hit an odd mix of heavy psych freakout, jamming and midwestern classic rock moves

also, the little community within a community of the ilm post fahey threads has been pretty influential to me as a listener and musicians, always been nothing but enthusiasm and good vibes, so thanks to you all

also for anyone in the twin cities area, the lakeside guitar festival is a cool free outdoor event at como lake park, this year paul metzger and james blood ulmer (!!!) are playing

https://allevents.in/st%20paul/lakeside-guitar-festival/200022951741534

I've fallen out of the loop with regards to a lot of experimental music (time, mainly); I'm pretty much off the socials these days and I miss the steady drip of stuff from this thread (always one of the best places on the web to find new music). Loving both these new things. I need more skronk and guitar turbulence in my life!

Glad to hear there are quite a few recordings UMS. I think you all definitely hit a sweet spot with what you are doing.

This thread (and its earlier incarnation) certainly were influential to me too. Found out about a ton of cool stuff here and always found it to be one of the healthier/friendlier/more interesting places to talk about a lot of this stuff. Honestly in the early days, which woulda been 2012 or 2013 or so (hard to believe) I think this thread was very much ahead of the curve and was a great place to discover and share stuff, but at a certain point a lot of the folks we discuss here were getting covered pretty much everywhere so I think I personally felt a bit less of a need to post. But yeah posting less generally also. Just trying to be online a bit less.

Realize I posted a Bandcamp thing, which isn't necessarily showing my album right away. For those interested here is the tape itself:

https://oxtailrecordings.bandcamp.com/album/i-live-here

All solo electric guitar built from one-take improvisations and tracks. Will have a companion that is all acoustic hopefully out sometime this year. Always think of this place fondly, maybe we will find some good records to throw down here soon enough.

I love posts like that^^ and is a great thread for the sort.

Aww cool.

I think we have been a good, non-gatekeep-y place to share stuff (fuck gatekeeping). It is funny, I remember a moment early on where a musician who posted here suggested we stick to covering "known commodities" or heavy hitters or some such early on, and it never made sense to me. Why not be a conduit for what is happening instead of trying to make cuts to the flow in real time? I think we took the right approach by just sharing enthusiastically, including when someone from the thread got something out into the world (some seriously good records too).

who are the 'heavy hitters' in a 'genre' of like 87 people who all know each other online lol

I think some guy named jean fayhee?

I showed dbh to Glenn when we got lunch a few weeks ago but then I realized I haven’t been paying attention to his work since 2015’s Mood album. I do feel out of the loop and need to get back on track knowing what is relatively hot in the genre among the 87 participants.

oh no i went back to the first ILX brigade thread, we are approaching the ten-year anniversary in december

Hah hah the person who had suggested sticking to "heavy hitters" certainly knows this ... and yet seemed to think we were ranging too wide (or just didn't want anyone posting their own music, though really not worth going into too much, it was just a rare moment where the "reason" for the thread was discussed).

I forgot that Glenn has a new album coming! Hope I get to see him play live sometime in the not-too-distant future.

It's already out!

https://glennjones.bandcamp.com/album/vade-mecum

To clarify I was referring to not paying attention to dbh, not Glenn.

Oh yeah, I got it! And apparently I am lagging in my attention to Glenn hah hah. Somehow I lost track that it was out already, look forward to diving in.

just went back to the OG thread for the first time in forever and LOLd at this:

"Hon, what time did you go to bed last night?"

"Uh ... 3 a.m."

"What!?"

"Yeah, well, I was past deadline on one assignment and had another due first thing this morning but instead of working on either I ended up reading an entire thread on ILM about modern acoustic guitar wizards, Fahey disciples, drone-folk dudes and the like. And listening to lots of Soundclouds and Youtubes and stuff."

*blank stare*

― alpine static, Wednesday, March 13, 2013 1:27 AM (nine years ago)

Short version: Killer thread, folks. Bookmarked, for sure.

― alpine static, Wednesday, March 13, 2013 1:31 AM (nine years ago)

Ah hah hah!

hahaha, and this:

man, i'm having a mild midlife crisis and I just wanna quit my job and start a band and make music like global's "Cassini"

― alpine static, Monday, October 27, 2014 10:14 PM (seven years ago)

if only i'd known that mild midlife crisis would blossom into a full-blown existential death spiral fueled by growing older, mortality, parenthood, a job change, loss of identity, climate anxiety, pandemic unease, isolation and general saudade.

but "Cassini" is still a ripper!

Hard to express just how different my outlook on life is now compared to 2014, and how much change I have gone through, though I guess fundamentally I am the same person. But yeah, music has helped. Wouldn't (and at times haven't) feel whole without getting to play it. Not really gonna lay it out here, but most of my music I have made in the last 3-4 years has been an attempt to process it, though that stuff can be lame when spelled out on paper.

Cassini ripped so hard they had to name a band after it :)

Cassini jams sound marvelous ... going to dig into the new Dais Queue next.

Aww thanks Tyler, hope it treats you well. Kinda of a bit of everything I do these days thrown in there.

my outlook is so different now too. i cringe reading my old posts. and been through a lot of harrowing bullshit since i first stumbled on ILX. but i can honestly say this thread has changed my life, far for the better! the insight and encouragement from y'all has been extremely meaningful over this decade (!)

music also makes me feel whole davis... it's also about purging some x factor while throwing some self-actualizing in there for me

thanks for the continued good vibes to tyler and davis and alpine and anyone else who has posted or even read this thread

yeahhhh totally. keep this thread ALIVE.

I'll do my part — have we checked out this "secret" marisa anderson record that slipped out last month? https://ecstaticstatic.bandcamp.com/album/lake-forest-park-soundtrack

I have not checked out that Marisa! She is the best, liquid light just flows out of her guitar, so I am sure I am going to enjoy that when I dive in!

And yeah, thanks to all here who ever encouraged me along the way also, as well as were generous with their time and insights. I will try to float stuff out here when I get an inkling it isn't being covered heavily already.

Just popping up to say to anyone who hasn't listened to the Duncan Marquiss album to give it a go. (He was the guitarist in the Phantom Band and this has bits of Terry Riley, lots of Cluster and Eno, some Tortoise, Big Jim O'Rourke etc). https://duncanmarquiss.bandcamp.com/album/wires-turned-sideways-in-time

Just saw Joseph Allred post on Facebook that Steffan Basho-Junghans has died, so sad

RIP — he was one of the people in the early 2000s (along w/ Jack Rose) who made me realize people were still making this kind of music.

Yeah, a real shame he's gone -- some remarkable albums.

Lovely note from Glenn Jones about him here -- he and Jack and Steffen were all mutual admirers. What I would have given to have been at that one Belgian show featuring all three.

oh geez, he died?! that is sad :(

Cross posting from the NY Film thread for fans of the composers:

SILENT FILMS / LIVE MUSIC at Brookfield Place, 230 Vesey Street in Manhattan
Curated by John Schaefer
No RSVP is required. Seating is first come, first served. Free popcorn while supplies last.

https://bfplny.com/event/electric-appalachia/
ELECTRIC APPALACHIA on Jan 25 at 7:30pm
Scored and performed live by Mary Lattimore and William Tyler.
The Acclaimed Silent Films/Live Music series is back in the Winter Garden at Brookfield Place!
Experience the first evening of the Silent Films/Live Music series with the New York premiere of “Electric Appalachia.” Using found archival footage, the film offers a meditation on electricity and modernity in East Tennessee. Compiled by Eric Dawson (director at the Tennessee Archive of Moving Image and Sound – TAMIS) with score written and performed by guitarist William Tyler and harpist Mary Lattimore.

https://bfplny.com/event/the-kid/
The Kid on Jan 26 at 7:30pm
Scored and performed live by Yasmin Williams
The acclaimed Silent Films/Live Music series is back in the Winter Garden at Brookfield Place! Join us for the second evening to watch the world premiere of Yasmin Williams’ new score set to the 1921 Charlie Chaplin classic, “The Kid.” This funny and deeply humane film stars a young Jackie Coogan in his first role and was Chaplin’s first full-length film as a director.

https://bfplny.com/event/passionofjoanofarc/
The Passion of Joan of Arc on Jan 27 at 7:30pm
Scored and performed live by David Cieri.
Join us for the finale of the Silent Film/Live Music series in the Winter Garden at Brookfield Place with a film that is widely regarded as a landmark of cinema, “The Passion of Joan of Arc.” The finale is scored and performed by composer David Cieri with his ensemble of instruments and vocalists.

Guess we hope those are recorded? Quite the line up(s).

I was looking for the thread to say that the latest Imaginational Anthem is lovely (if you dig wide open spaces pedal steel stuff): https://tompkinssquare.bandcamp.com/album/luke-schneider-presents-imaginational-anthem-vol-xi-chrome-universal-a-survey-of-modern-pedal-steel

all 10 volumes of Imaginational Anthem on CD for $70

someone convince me to pull the trigger?

(i'm sure you all got the same email from Tompkins Square)

never mind, lol, i did it

i don't know if this was mentioned but this private press reissue on tompkins square is really pretty

https://tompkinssquare.bandcamp.com/album/river-sun-river-moon

ultra pastoral

I think I picked this up somewhere on the board but should definitely be on here: https://lakemary.bandcamp.com/album/slow-grass-2

Tends towards the ambient end of things, a bit like Scott Tuma, the Old Saw record from last year, but the first track devolves into a gorgeous squall of saxophone (from him off Fuubutsushi).