IS IT WASHAPOLL? - ILM ARTIST POLL #57 - AUTECHRE - RESULTS thread

irlite (get 0) wuz robbed

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmwW5kBfltk

my top 3 were

GoSheep @1
Bronchusevenmx @2
Yulquen @3

my ballot

#1 - lowride
eutow
fold4, wrap5
rsdio
nuane
vose in
rettic AC
clipper
second bad vilbel
under BOAC
laughing quarter
cichli
maphive 6.1
acroyear 2
flutter
gantz graf
arch carrier
basscadet
further
#20 - calbruc

Here's mins:

Draun Quarter
Under BOAC
Garbagemx
Second Scepe
Rae
Corc
Cichli
6IE.CR
Arch Carrier
V-PROC
Ipacial Section
THEME OF SUDDEN ROUNDABOUT
Sublimit
Maphive61
Inhake 2
Perlence
T ess xi
Zeiss Contarex
CapIV
Pen Expers

'mine' I mean!

Gaekwad
Draun Quarter
spl9
Cichli
Pen Expers
Leterel
Laughing Quarter
Keynell 4
Piezo
Stereolab - Refractions In The Plastic Pulse (Feebate Mix)
Drane
Rae
Dominique Dalcan - Aveugle & Sourd (Autechre mix)
Acroyear2
Pir
VLetrmx
Krib
Second Scepe
Dael
Silverside

Untitled was robbed. Though I didn't vote for anything from it, love it as an album but couldn't pick one track I could never live without.

Great work Leee & Ledge.

1. Eutow
Piezo
Stud
Silverside
Altibzz
Gaekwad
Foil
Second Peng
Vose In
Clipper
Maphive 6.1
Nine
Garbagemx
VLetrmx
Laughing Quarter
R Ess
Eggshell
Pen Expers
Rae
Slip

The surprise of 'VLetrmx' turning up in the top three made up for 'Eutow' not getting first place.

Albums/EPs:

1. Amber
Tri Repetae
LP5
Garbage
Incunabula
EP7
Anvil Vapre
Peel Session 1
Confield
Envane

Belatedly realised that both octobeard and dog latin had already made my point about Chiastic Slide... That's one I definitely need to revisit. This poll's really got me back into Ae in general though, it feels like I've discovered them afresh. I'd definitely bump Confield up a few places if I was voting again.

great poll,
surprised at the #1, but what a tune.
surprised at the lack of love for cloudline, my #1, to me it's the perfect summation of their ideas.

tracks:
cloudline
cfern
gantz graf
cipater
VLetrmx21
viral rival (gescom (rmxd by ae))
LCC
Fleure
spl9
redfall
pen expers
ilanders
rae
clipper
bike
characi
second scout
acroyearII
under boac
cichli

albums:
untilted
confield
exai
chiastic slide
lp5
gantz graf
draft 7.30
cichlisuite
l-event
oversteps

thanks leee and ledge

my ballot:

1. Pen Expers
2. Cap. IV
3. Surripere
4. VLetrmx
5. The Plc ccc
6. Cfern
7. Arch Carrier
8. V-Proc
9. Eidetic Casein
10. Under BOAC
11. Zeiss Contarex
12. Dial.
13. Perlence
14. bladelores
15. Autechre Play At Drowning In A Sea Of Indiependance
16. spl9
17. pce freeze 2.8i
18. Ccec
19. recks on
20. Gantz Graf

I too am on the Cloudline bandwagon following mentions ITT. If I'd clocked it properly before it would have ranked quite high in my ballot. Puts me in mind of Funkadelic or something, that one and I'm a sucker for formant filter vocal effects or whatever it is. Otherwise Uviol is the latest released track on my ballot.

I only named 14 tracks on my main list. May well be some changes if doing it again. Thanks to the organisers and contributors, it's been fun!

Goz Quarter
Glitch
Corc
444
Uviol
Overand
Cichli
Tilapia
Secong Peng
Fold4, Wrap5
Draun Quarter
VLetrmx21
Cipater
Montreal

thanks for doing this Leee and ledge. I had a lot of fun rediscovering autechre. the tracks that didn't make the top 50 are in bold.

1. Rettic AC
2. Ccec
3. Recury
4. Eutow
5. Acroyear2
6. Clipper
7. Leterel
8. Sim Gishel
9. Rae
10. Nil
11. Bine
12. Liccflii
13. Rsdio
14. Gelk
15. Simmm
16. Basscadet
17. Pen Expers
18. Dropp
19. Pir
20. Foil

1. Tri Repetae
2. Confield
3. LP5
4. Chiastic Slide
5. Amber

This was a really interesting rollout to follow as a non-voter, esp since the work is on Spotify and I could drop in and listen along when the comments really piqued my interest. Favorite new discovery - Vletrmx.

Yes, many thanks for all your efforts Leee and Ledge.

Autechre newbies following this are also recommended to checkout the individual LP/EP poll threads that Leee organised a few years back. First one is here: IncunaPOLLa -- Autechre :: LP1 :: Incunabula and I think each thread has a link to the next somewhere in the posts, so you can follow the trail all the way to Oversteps/MOT.

I credit those threads with reviving my interest in AE, which had flagged a bit. They inspired me to try again with Confield and pick up Draft 7.30 / Quaristice, which are now some of my favourite albums, by anyone.

lol the world is only now ready for the early noughties shit

was continually consulting those threads fwiw, they're a useful resource

lots of ballots with plenty of later stuff, three of us with both cap.iv and surripere in the top 3

Great poll! Thanks guys... I'll be back with a few thoughts on the last few entries - particularly Arch Carrier, my #1.

Looks like most of my choices made it in. Whoop!

Still, I was listening to Zeiss Contarex, which has to count as the most evil insidious track they've ever made (WTF are those scratching, cackling noises at the beginning?! Mummy!!) and sad it didn't place higher. Netlon Sentinel could have made an appearance too - pure apocalypse.

Arch Carrier
Cichli
Pir
Rae
Maphive 6.1
Piezo
Fold4, Wrap5
Netlon Sentinel
Garbagemx
Zeiss Contarex
Under BOAC
Slip
Gelk
Vose In
Krib
Eutow
Milk DX
Leterel
d-sho qub
V-Proc

Last four tracks of EP7 all on your ballot - that run of tracks is probably my favourite discovery of the poll, they're all superlative. Maphive and Netlon especially may have troubled the upper reaches of my ballot. More even than LP5, those tracks may represent the most balanced moment of transition between Autechre and Autechre 2.0

Agree. EP7.2 is my favourite run of any autechre

Thanks Lee and ledge -- I've listened to more Autechre in the past two weeks than I had in the past couple of years. My opinion on the post-Gantz Graf stuff has been slowly shifting over the years so it's always nice to have a reason to revisit that stuff.

#1 was a big surprise -- is this the first ILM poll where the winning track didn't get a single #1 vote? I thought that "Arch Carrier" was a shoo-in, seeing that LP5 won the albums poll and most of the tracks from it finished in the top 50.

I sort of regret splitting the "Basscadet" vote by voting for one of the remixes, if I'd voted for the original then it would have finished somewhere in the low 30's.

I think this was the "purest" ILM poll that I've participated in. With most polls, there's a subtle bias in the ballots depending on how voters feel about the established canon, where people leave out some obvious hits for somewhat challopsy reasons so they can get a few of their secondary faves into the poll (obviously I am guilty of this as well). I think with Autechre, the canon is established for albums but not so much for individual tracks (or even EPs), and I think it's reflected in the final results. People voted for their favourite songs without really caring about what other voters would do. This is how it should be!

Key Nell 4
Teartear
Basscadet (Bcdtmx)
Piezo
Stud
Recury
Cap.IV
Second Peng
Chatter
Second Bad Vilbel
Arch Carrier
Cipater
Cichli
Lentic Catachresis
Garbagemx36
Silverside
Eggshell
VLetrmx
Flutter
d-sho qub

Loved this poll. I voted without relistening and revisited the albums during the roll out (and I loved how long the roll out was cos it resulted in some great discussion). Having heard everyone else's pics I could conceivably vote for 20 different tracks, but this is what I went for

Drane
Vlertrmx
Doctrine
Garbagrmx
Second Bad Vibel
Further
Kalpol Intro
Windwind
Yulquen
444
Eutow
Silverside
Arch Carrier
Foil
Montreal
Melve
Bladelores
Slip
Glitch
Nine

"Chatter" is a jam.

I think with Autechre, the canon is established for albums but not so much for individual tracks (or even EPs), and I think it's reflected in the final results.

Along with what nakh said about canon-building being equivalent to entombing them, I think that the clear divisions in their discography (melodic/pretty vs. throbbing noise) sets up a few camps of listeners, and the different perspective that each camp comes from reveals a novel understanding or appreciation of all the work. I think a lot of us have gotten a new appreciation onto tracks we'd dismissed or hadn't even heard of before, so that instead of a sepulchre (or even the vivisepulchre), this top 50 is explicitly a snapshot of taste at a specific time, and that if we were to do this again in a couple years' time (considering my history of doing such things, not out of the question!), the results would look pretty different ("Cichli" would still probably win though!).

I kinda always knew Cichli would get #1, yet no one actually voted for it as their own #1. Interesting. Also, outside of Arch Carrier, no other song had more than 1 vote as #1. I love how so many people can latch onto and love different facets of this band in very different ways. Speaks to their talent, diversity of output and staying power. My ballot:

Song poll
1 Cipater
2 drane2
3 Psi-Onyx (Psix Million Dollar Myx Oscar Goldmans Bonus)
4 Eutow
5 C/Pach
6 Key Nell 4
7 d-sho qub
8 444
9 Clipper
10 Goz Quarter
11 Cichli
12 are y are we
13 jatavee C
14 Inhake 2
15 bladelores
16 Pir
17 M39 Diffain
18 Simmm
19 Second Scout
20 Surripere

Album/EP Poll
1 Chiastic Slide
2 Exai
3 Tri Repetae
4 LP5
5 Untilted
6 Envane
7 Incunabula
8 Draft 7:30
9 Anvil Vapre
10 Cichlisuite

Remix Poll
1 Psi-Onyx (Psix Million Dollar Myx Oscar Goldmans Bonus)
2 Aveugle & Sourd (Autechre Mix)
3 Viral Rival (Rmxd By Ae)
4 Keynell Mix 1
5 Tunnels Ov Set Autechre Remix

Non-AE poll
1 Gescom - Key Nell 4
2 Gescom - Go Sheep
3 Lego Feet - Leaves on the Line
4 Gescom - Key Nell 1
5 Gescom - Go Sumo

Oh and thanks Leee for putting this together! I had been anticipating this poll for quite a while now and it's been showering me in nostalgic musical bliss all week.

favorite remix is of d'breez "crazy for love"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1bTis9ee3U

Along with what nakh said about canon-building being equivalent to entombing them, I think that the clear divisions in their discography (melodic/pretty vs. throbbing noise) sets up a few camps of listeners, and the different perspective that each camp comes from reveals a novel understanding or appreciation of all the work. I think a lot of us have gotten a new appreciation onto tracks we'd dismissed or hadn't even heard of before, so that instead of a sepulchre (or even the vivisepulchre), this top 50 is explicitly a snapshot of taste at a specific time, and that if we were to do this again in a couple years' time (considering my history of doing such things, not out of the question!), the results would look pretty different ("Cichli" would still probably win though!).

― cichleee suite (Leee), Saturday, 4 October 2014 19:43 (3 hours ago)

yeah, i like things from everything they have released (note that solitary vote for accelera) so it was good to see partisans for all of those

i didnt realise cichli was quite this popular, i guessed eutow might get #1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dr3CCv6OvDo

I really thought Leterel would place higher. It was my number one and I'm a proud mf for voting for it despite it getting some disrespect upper in the thread. Its a great tune but really I didn't know whether to put that first or Clipper so its nice to see the latter place high.

Listening to Confield again now and it is fckn magnificent.

Cheers all and especially Leee for reigniting my love for this weird and special music.

1. GoSheep (Gescom)
2. Bronchusevenmx
3. Yulquen
4. Arch Carrier
5. Cichli
6. Fold4, Wrap5
7. VI scose poise
8. Overand
9. Maphive 6.1
10. VLetrmx
11. Krib
12. Further
13. Goz Quarter
14. Rotar
15. Flutter
16. Under Boac
17. Drane
18. Lowride
19. Nil
20. Clipper

yes this was really great thanks lee and all for the kewl write-ups, also the roll-out pace was great as it allowed me to bitch

ty Leee

Leterel
Clipper
Eutow
Drane
Cichli
Gelk
Cipater
Krib
Basscadet
Dael
Stud
Rpeg
Gantz Graf
ylm0
pt2ph8
d-sho qub
Hub
M62
Milk DX
Inhake 2

also the roll-out pace was great as it allowed me to bitch

lol ur welcome. I don't follow these results threads much -- was this on the slow side?

can't find an autechre remix thread so am bumping the most recent ae thread as that'll be the one people have bookmarked.

anyway, ae remix article in this month's wired.

You mean the wire.

yes, i do (bought both this morning)

disappointingly the magazine is nothing like the tv series.

if there was a magazine called Wired all about the show the Wire it would make life even more complicated than it already is.

So it appears that a bracing immersion in the top half of this poll was the best way to get into Autechre after a couple of failed attempts. I suppose I made a mistake starting with Incunabula and Amber, both of which did very little for me bar one or two tracks, and I never had the interest to explore further into the supposedly more 'difficult' records. This is partly because the discourse around Autechre is almost uniquely terrible - cf their supposed shift from warmth to coldness throughout their career, when to these ears something like Confield sounds way warmer than Incunabula. All those crackling and purring noises and emberish melodies, it's like watching a fire.

I'd always liked Cap IV but assumed that was an outlier, but the run from Chiastic Slide to Confield, once they start playing more with meter and texture, is just so great. And their melodies get better as well. Been taking it one album after the next and I'm about to plunge into Draft and onwards. But yeah, good work all concerned here.

I still think LP5 is the best way to get into these dudes

The idea of Autechre as having ever made 'cold' music is one of the biggest misnomers around their music. If it were so I'd probably not be a fan. Glad you got into them Matt DC. The run you mention is my favourite era. Found things a little bumpy from then on up until the Quaristice era, but as this poll proves, there are plenty who will rep for Draft and Untilted.

X post yeah LP5 was my introduction to them.

I've been re-discovering my love for "Leterel," well done, voters.

The idea of Autechre as having ever made 'cold' music is one of the biggest misnomers around their music. If it were so I'd probably not be a fan

I do think that the gap between "what they sound like if you like them" and "what they sound like them if you don't like them" is about as big as it could be for any group

there is cold as shorthand for the emotional froideur that people find in neutral abstract forms that do not go out of their way to engage them....

that might be a misunderstanding, though there is something in it too, neutral implacability and indifference is integral to the sublime

then by the same measure, sean booth has said that when they make violent and choleric music, that directness is misread or not read at all and it gets described as just 'complex' as if it is that were an end in itself

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_JCt0jv86I

the exai bonus track, never got around to this before but its got a chimey mid 90s feel to it

wow yeah. their japan bonus tracks often feel a bit throwaway but that is lovely. a few untilted era sounds hidden in there.

that was gorgeous

yeah id agree with both parts there ledge

the untilted trebly electro sound is gorgeous although compositionally its not quite up to confield or draft

where can i see the full recap?

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"Nuane" is one of my top 10 faves i think, so satisfying in every department