the Sturgill Simpson c/d

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for those of us without the patience for the rolling country thread

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 24 September 2014 22:34 (three years ago) Permalink

lol this was supposed to say The Sturgill Simpson thread

but I guess we can also discuss THE Sturgill Simpson

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 24 September 2014 22:35 (three years ago) Permalink

like him, wish he'd enunciate better

franklin, Thursday, 25 September 2014 00:52 (three years ago) Permalink

Yeah, after many of my friends raving about him, when I got around to hearing him he's kinda like honky tonk Eddie Vedder.

Dick Clownload (Dan Peterson), Thursday, 25 September 2014 01:47 (three years ago) Permalink

He writes better lyrics than vedder ever did.

Οὖτις, Thursday, 25 September 2014 02:35 (three years ago) Permalink

His cover of "The Promise" is stunning.

Herbie Handcock (Murgatroid), Sunday, 28 September 2014 06:27 (three years ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...

Hard or soft 'G'?

Fine Toothcomb (sonofstan), Sunday, 19 October 2014 15:10 (three years ago) Permalink

Hard

u2 removal machine (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 19 October 2014 15:21 (three years ago) Permalink

Ta. Liking Metamodern Sounds on first listen

Fine Toothcomb (sonofstan), Sunday, 19 October 2014 15:35 (three years ago) Permalink

Yeah it's pretty great

u2 removal machine (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 19 October 2014 15:49 (three years ago) Permalink

Just got it the other day myself. Not disappointed.

Οὖτις, Sunday, 19 October 2014 16:36 (three years ago) Permalink

"Yeah, after many of my friends raving about him, when I got around to hearing him he's kinda like honky tonk Eddie Vedder."

thanks for ruining the recod for me now!

nostormo, Thursday, 30 October 2014 21:46 (three years ago) Permalink

I liked it a lot when I first heard it, and I guess I still do, but it kind of feels like he uses the exact same songwriting trick on every song.

my jaw left (Hurting 2), Thursday, 30 October 2014 21:47 (three years ago) Permalink

That thing where the verse sticks on the I with a little V7 thrown in and then the chorus comes a-roarin in on the IV

my jaw left (Hurting 2), Thursday, 30 October 2014 21:48 (three years ago) Permalink

he uses the exact same songwriting trick on every song

hallmark of classic songwriting

j., Thursday, 30 October 2014 21:51 (three years ago) Permalink

well, few country singers have the Gene Clark/Parsons talent.

i think the production is somewhat too clean and upfront.

nostormo, Thursday, 30 October 2014 21:52 (three years ago) Permalink

still, it's better than most of the genre

nostormo, Thursday, 30 October 2014 21:52 (three years ago) Permalink

Yeah I found it really refreshing when I first got into it, then I just bored of it quickly because it felt so samey. But it has a great sound and some great lyrics.

my jaw left (Hurting 2), Thursday, 30 October 2014 21:57 (three years ago) Permalink

thanks for ruining the recod for me now!

Haha sorry, I'm not even entirely sure where my Vedder comparison came from! Sturgill's not yarly at all so much as mumbly. There's definitely stuff about him I like though.

Deliciously hard yet very accessible (Dan Peterson), Thursday, 30 October 2014 22:05 (three years ago) Permalink

i have found myself returning more to the last one even though i normally have a little bit of a year-end-list mania that keeps me focused on new releases instead. probably he seems less awesomely fatalistic on the newer one otherwise i'd spin it.

j., Thursday, 30 October 2014 22:11 (three years ago) Permalink

wait ... hard G? is that really right?

alpine static, Thursday, 30 October 2014 22:49 (three years ago) Permalink

I doubt it

Οὖτις, Thursday, 30 October 2014 22:50 (three years ago) Permalink

rhymes with gurgle? c'mon now

Οὖτις, Thursday, 30 October 2014 22:50 (three years ago) Permalink

http://www.pronouncenames.com/pronounce/sturgill

Οὖτις, Thursday, 30 October 2014 22:51 (three years ago) Permalink

http://youtu.be/_70HJMikcBo?t=2m46s

j., Thursday, 30 October 2014 23:07 (three years ago) Permalink

dude's got pipes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-eWJmN8D820

I dunno. (amateurist), Thursday, 6 November 2014 04:22 (three years ago) Permalink

Simpson's guitarist is really good. I love the solo on this one. I'd have to figure they are using the studio echo chamber on the solo, being that is a famous one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lK4UFSNGRdE

earlnash, Thursday, 6 November 2014 05:15 (three years ago) Permalink

FYI I live in Kentucky where this guy is a something of a local hero and I've never heard it pronounced any way other than to rhyme with 'Virgil.'

Album is great, hope he continues in the 'Reptilian overlords and DMT' mode, and hope he keeps whoever is playing lead guitar on this thing, damn.

Jimmywine Dyspeptic, Thursday, 6 November 2014 14:14 (three years ago) Permalink

Yeah his lead player is siiiiick as fuuuuuck

my jaw left (Hurting 2), Thursday, 6 November 2014 14:18 (three years ago) Permalink

good interview with the guitarist: http://www.thefader.com/2014/09/18/another-country-interview-laur-joamets-sturgill-simpsons-estonian-guitarist

Heez, Thursday, 6 November 2014 17:40 (three years ago) Permalink

sturgill's a damn good guitarist too.

Heez, Thursday, 6 November 2014 17:41 (three years ago) Permalink

opening for Willie seems like a no-brainer

Οὖτις, Thursday, 6 November 2014 17:45 (three years ago) Permalink

i've been off the country wavelengths for a while but just took a listen to this - as good as advertised!

a dude eating another dude's leg in front of that dude (slothroprhymes), Thursday, 6 November 2014 18:39 (three years ago) Permalink

his voice is very much in the classic merle mode and i can totally dig it

a dude eating another dude's leg in front of that dude (slothroprhymes), Thursday, 6 November 2014 18:42 (three years ago) Permalink

as anyone points out, correctly, he sounds a LOT like waylon

i'm not even a drug fiend but the lyrics to turtles all the way down are fantastic

I dunno. (amateurist), Thursday, 6 November 2014 20:51 (three years ago) Permalink

estonian dude is becoming an american pretty quick when he says things like "amen to that"

I dunno. (amateurist), Thursday, 6 November 2014 20:59 (three years ago) Permalink

next interview he'll be all "you're darn tootin!"

I dunno. (amateurist), Thursday, 6 November 2014 21:45 (three years ago) Permalink

There must be a hundred guitar pickers in Nashville muttering 'coming over here, taking our jobs' like some UKIP neanderthal in a dead English seaside town...

Fine Toothcomb (sonofstan), Thursday, 6 November 2014 23:43 (three years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

saw these guys open for Willie Nelson last night and they were straight fire. Laur Joamets is indeed an amazing guitarist, he was very much the star of the show, although Sturgill is a pretty sick guitarist too.

Free Me's Electric Trumpet (Moodles), Wednesday, 31 December 2014 15:36 (two years ago) Permalink

Xpost There seem to be a lot of Aussies in Nashville.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 31 December 2014 19:32 (two years ago) Permalink

i like him fine, but i'm reactionary wrt his rise in popularity - a) i'm not so fond of the voice (nor waylon's, of which he's too derivative), and b) he's caught too much of the dudebro-ish fetish for rock-enough-to-not-be-uncool "outlaw"/druggy country males that usually extends to dreck like Hank 3 and rarely crosses the gender barrier

Banned on the Run (benbbag), Wednesday, 31 December 2014 23:16 (two years ago) Permalink

i'm kind of a fan but he's not as good as probably a dozen other current country artists i can think of off the top of my head tbh

LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Wednesday, 31 December 2014 23:19 (two years ago) Permalink

and the backlash begins

Jimmywine Dyspeptic, Wednesday, 31 December 2014 23:28 (two years ago) Permalink

I think he's great. He's a great musician, his band is great, I like his singing and I like the songs he covers along with his originals. I like Waylon, and I like that he is not afraid to sound like Waylon. I don't get a dudebro vibe from him at all, if anything there's sort of a jam band thing going on at times.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 1 January 2015 03:17 (two years ago) Permalink

i'm kind of a fan but he's not as good as probably a dozen other current country artists i can think of off the top of my head tbh

― LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Wednesday, December 31, 2014 6:19 PM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

want this list

man alive, Thursday, 1 January 2015 03:23 (two years ago) Permalink

i think it's right to be wary of the "i hate all current country music, but i like this" line that so often accompanies praise of sturgill simpson, but that has very little or nothing to do with sturgill simpson.

i'm a little amazed that a country fan can dislike waylon's voice (see benbbag above), but i have enough non-acquired tastes to give it a pass, i suppose. (btw christgau didn't like waylon's voice much either.) but i think waylon's voice is a thing of beauty, and as much as i love strugill simpson, he can't (yet) approach it in subtlety and flexibility.

I dunno. (amateurist), Thursday, 1 January 2015 03:40 (two years ago) Permalink

I'm a country fan always suspicious of Waylon. Not hard. A fair amount of outlaw bathos.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 1 January 2015 03:43 (two years ago) Permalink

Btw this guy closer to early eighties "Big City" Hag.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 1 January 2015 03:44 (two years ago) Permalink

I'll totally cop to not being a country fan and being hardly familiar with Waylon and having never heard of Sturgill Simpson prior to last night. Still was a good show though...

Free Me's Electric Trumpet (Moodles), Thursday, 1 January 2015 03:45 (two years ago) Permalink

i guess i go so deep with waylon -- i think i have every LP of his, at least up until the late 80s -- that i forget about the whole outlaw thing, which is really not a huge part of his oeuvre all told, even if it defined his public persona for a lot of people.

watch this and see if you don't love it -- his singing, the drumming, his minimalist guitar solo, everything:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1-_cZoUOEE

I dunno. (amateurist), Thursday, 1 January 2015 03:47 (two years ago) Permalink

Stapleton, like Jamey Johnson before him, is no 'country outsider' despite marketing to the contrary. Sturgill, to his credit, is by all accounts every bit the shit-kicking 'outlaw' he appears to be, whatever that's worth

and yeah, the "country outsider" nonsense appeals to the worst kind of rockist, and I enjoy reminding such people that Jamey Johnson is 1/3 responsible for "Honky Tonk Badonkadonk"

Wimmels, Thursday, 8 December 2016 02:10 (eleven months ago) Permalink

None of them get Luke Bryan level radio airplay or media coverage. Stapleton was a Nashville insider songwriter but his own stuff is more barband; Jamey Johnson also can write country pop; but goes in a different direction on his own. Sturgill covers Nirvana...

curmudgeon, Thursday, 8 December 2016 14:53 (eleven months ago) Permalink

the whole narrative around him right now is weird considering that the album itself mostly has a soppy '70s MOR sound (not complaining, just observing)

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Thursday, 8 December 2016 15:00 (eleven months ago) Permalink

Stapleton was a Nashville insider songwriter but his own stuff is more barband

Generous. To me he sounds like Bob Seger (and not early, raucous Bob Seger, either)

Wimmels, Thursday, 8 December 2016 15:27 (eleven months ago) Permalink

Ann Powers of NPR is calling Sturgill, Maren Morris, Rhiannon Giddens, Lori McKenna and Brandy Clark "third way" Nashville artists in a tweet

curmudgeon, Friday, 9 December 2016 19:17 (eleven months ago) Permalink

one month passes...

Absolutely killed it on SNL. He was not like this at all when I saw him tour behind the last album. Watch the "Call to Arms" clip, it's like they all took whatever EC and the Attractions used to take to get them through the night.

http://www.rollingstone.com/country/news/watch-sturgill-simpsons-fiery-snl-debut-w461175

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 15 January 2017 23:02 (ten months ago) Permalink

Country Singer Goes on SNL, Exposes* Afghan Heroin Trade and No One Even Noticed

http://thefreethoughtproject.com/sturgill-snl-military-war-heroin/

*clickbait-y but still...

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 19 January 2017 22:22 (nine months ago) Permalink

lol man his bass player is classic-fat-bass-player material, right down to that neck-snapping thing

Οὖτις, Thursday, 19 January 2017 22:31 (nine months ago) Permalink

Country Rock? More like Country Woke, amirite?

"I must believe that my charm was not in my ass." (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 19 January 2017 22:37 (nine months ago) Permalink

Yeah, fat guy with the bass butting against his double chin, the best.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 19 January 2017 23:03 (nine months ago) Permalink

I never got around to listening to this new one based on all the reviews and the Nirvana cover (which I didn't like). I still have hope for this dude though.

Οὖτις, Thursday, 19 January 2017 23:07 (nine months ago) Permalink

I never got around to listening to this new one based on all the reviews and the Nirvana cover (which I didn't like). I still have hope for this dude though.

lol this is me exactly

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Friday, 20 January 2017 07:27 (nine months ago) Permalink

i didn't like the Nirvana cover either, and i'm not sure i like the new one *quite* as much as the previous one, but it is impressive and ambitious and well-crafted, imo.

i think you can stop having hope for him, he's gonna be ok.

alpine static, Friday, 20 January 2017 09:17 (nine months ago) Permalink

I meant hope in the sense that I have hope he will make some more music I want to listen to

Οὖτις, Friday, 20 January 2017 21:23 (nine months ago) Permalink

I watched the SNL performance thinking that maybe a live performance would clarify why ppl find this dude appealing. I came away from it desperately wanting a Yarl translator and still wondering why this dude over any other random country person.

(The caption: “fine dining.”) (DJP), Friday, 20 January 2017 21:30 (nine months ago) Permalink

i liked the new one a lot btw esp shakey i think you would dig a bunch of it

Mordy, Friday, 20 January 2017 21:31 (nine months ago) Permalink

i don't hate 'in bloom' but it's not among the best stuff on the album fwiw

Mordy, Friday, 20 January 2017 21:32 (nine months ago) Permalink

why this dude over any other random country perso

better songs, unusual POV

Οὖτις, Friday, 20 January 2017 21:35 (nine months ago) Permalink

he's not better than a lot of the recent crop of female country artists but he's probably a lot better than a lot of the dudes.

nomar, Friday, 20 January 2017 21:36 (nine months ago) Permalink

I couldn't tell you anything about the POV of either of the songs he did on SNL because it literally did not sound to me like he was singing in English. It was like watching an angry male Ariana Grande.

(The caption: “fine dining.”) (DJP), Friday, 20 January 2017 21:38 (nine months ago) Permalink

he's not better than a lot of the recent crop of female country artists but he's probably a lot better than a lot of the dudes.

^^^this

Οὖτις, Friday, 20 January 2017 21:44 (nine months ago) Permalink

I couldn't tell you anything about the POV of either of the songs he did on SNL because it literally did not sound to me like he was singing in English.

you realize this is how old white guys complain about rap right

Οὖτις, Friday, 20 January 2017 21:44 (nine months ago) Permalink

Angry male Ariana Grande sounds pretty cool to me. She's the newest character in Final Fantasy Brave Exvius, I'll hope for Sturgill Simpson next.

Frederik B, Friday, 20 January 2017 21:47 (nine months ago) Permalink

i don't think of him as angry really at all. he just has a lot of intense feels.

Mordy, Friday, 20 January 2017 21:50 (nine months ago) Permalink

you realize this is how old white guys complain about rap right

You realize this is the definition of a false equivalence, right

(The caption: “fine dining.”) (DJP), Friday, 20 January 2017 21:52 (nine months ago) Permalink

how so

Οὖτις, Friday, 20 January 2017 21:53 (nine months ago) Permalink

also idk how much you guys listen to country radio but i listen to it every so often bc my brother has it on in his car and his stuff sounds like nothing on it totally different sound. agreed that some of the women who get radio play are often doing equally distinctive stuff but even there like miranda lambert gets radio play i can't imagine "Brave for Impact (Live a Little)" getting play on XTU

Mordy, Friday, 20 January 2017 21:53 (nine months ago) Permalink

"you can't criticize a singer's diction because sometimes people are racist" isn't a position that actually makes any sense

(The caption: “fine dining.”) (DJP), Friday, 20 January 2017 21:53 (nine months ago) Permalink

I'm not talking about ppl who dismiss rap as not being "actual music" or because they're racist or whatever. I am talking specifically about the phenomenon of not being able to understand the diction/slang/vocal delivery of a subculture you may not be directly familiar with, and using that as critical grounds for dismissal. Sometimes understanding stuff takes work. There's plenty of times I've encountered artists where I could not understand a damn thing they were saying until I really paid attention or looked it up or had someone else point things out etc. I get it that you don't like his vocal delivery and that's fair, but saying you can't understand his POV cuz you can't understand what he's saying - which is about *content*, not delivery - that's on you.

Οὖτις, Friday, 20 January 2017 21:59 (nine months ago) Permalink

slippery slope from criticizing diction to musical theater

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Friday, 20 January 2017 22:00 (nine months ago) Permalink

or GLEE

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Friday, 20 January 2017 22:01 (nine months ago) Permalink

I'm not talking about ppl who dismiss rap as not being "actual music" or because they're racist or whatever. I am talking specifically about the phenomenon of not being able to understand the diction/slang/vocal delivery of a subculture you may not be directly familiar with, and using that as critical grounds for dismissal.

No you aren't, otherwise your qualifier wouldn't have been "old white guys", it would have been "people not down with current slang" which does actually include a fair number of people who are not old white men. If you're going to shorthand an argument, you should be pretty confident that your shorthand matches the point you want to make.

(The caption: “fine dining.”) (DJP), Friday, 20 January 2017 22:05 (nine months ago) Permalink

Furthermore, nowhere did I say "dude is a bad singer"; I said "I couldn't understand a word this dude said on SNL". It is not actually incumbent upon me to watch the SNL performance multiple times with a lyric sheet before I decide whether this music sounds like something I would want to spend my time on.

(The caption: “fine dining.”) (DJP), Friday, 20 January 2017 22:07 (nine months ago) Permalink

you're right I did substitute "old white guys" for "people not down with current slang" and I guess that muddied the waters when really my point was just about dealing with a singing style that draws on a different dialect(?) than the one you're used to. I suppose a more value-neutral (or at least non-racially loaded) example would be British stuff that's heavy on slang/local idioms/accents (the Fall? Dizzee Rascal? idk) that might take a little bit of work for an American listener to understand what's going on.

Οὖτις, Friday, 20 January 2017 22:28 (nine months ago) Permalink

anyway take my word for it this dude doesn't sing in the usual way about the usual things current country dudes sing about

Οὖτις, Friday, 20 January 2017 22:29 (nine months ago) Permalink

the fall is a great country band

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A91ANoS-_7g

blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 20 January 2017 22:35 (nine months ago) Permalink

excruciating pedantry on this thread

Wimmels, Friday, 20 January 2017 23:04 (nine months ago) Permalink

that's why I listen to Miranda Lambert

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 21 January 2017 00:08 (nine months ago) Permalink

I like her too! it's not an either/or thing.

Οὖτις, Saturday, 21 January 2017 00:10 (nine months ago) Permalink

I'd no idea -- I thought you didn't care for her.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 21 January 2017 00:11 (nine months ago) Permalink

it's true I can count the modern country acts I enjoy on one hand - Simpson, Lambert, Musgraves, Lee Ann Womack - all of which I learned about from ILM

Οὖτις, Saturday, 21 January 2017 00:17 (nine months ago) Permalink

i liked the new one a lot btw esp shakey i think you would dig a bunch of it

― Mordy, Friday, 20 January 2017 21:31 (three days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i don't hate 'in bloom' but it's not among the best stuff on the album fwiw

― Mordy, Friday, 20 January 2017 21:32 (three days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Agree with Mordy. And as a dad who occasionally had to travel for work the opening song never ceases to choke me up. Eep the bit where he sings "That the answer was so easy" - gah, waterworks.

Dysphagia Nutrition Solutions (stevie), Monday, 23 January 2017 13:51 (nine months ago) Permalink

yes otm; that song is fantastic.

Mordy, Monday, 23 January 2017 15:14 (nine months ago) Permalink

one month passes...

Laur Joamets has (or is soon) leaving the band. Cuts my interest in Sturgill records by at least half.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Sunday, 5 March 2017 23:44 (eight months ago) Permalink

Wow, that's some bad news-- Simpson's got a major US tour in the Fall booked and already on sale that was primed to be StarTime for him and his band.

to fly across the city and find Aerosmith's car (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 6 March 2017 02:14 (eight months ago) Permalink

read Sturgill's statement ... he doesn't sound too worried:

We've been trying to keep it under wraps to avoid the inevitable rumor mill but last night's gig in Okeechobee FL officially marks the beginning of a new chapter.
We're all very sad to say that after nearly four years Laur Joamets has decided it's time to move on to pursue greener pastures and a gig with little more wiggle room for him to stretch out. It's been a pleasure and an honor watching him grow into one of the baddest guitar players on the planet and everyone in the band wishes him the best in his future endeavors. To be completely honest, I realized last night how much I've missed playing electric guitar without even knowing it so I guess as they say, "it was time".
I'm also proud to say that Little Joe recently became the proud owner of a US green card and is working towards officially becoming a "Muhrican".
Everyone in the band wishes him the absolute best in both his life and career and we cant wait to see what he does with his incredible talents.
It has also been an honor and a priviledge playing with the New Orleans horns boys (Brad Walker, Jon Ramm, Scott Frock) but sadly after touring nearly the entire world, every late night tv program and the Grammy's I felt it was time to move on from the sonic template of ASGTE and get started on "what's next". We all had a wonderful year with them and made some great friends for life. Who knows,..maybe I'll get an itching for the dirty brass again down the road.
With all that said, gonna be keeping it lean & mean with Miles, Chuck, & Bob this year.
After all,..heavy times calls for heavy music.
See ya on the road!!

alpine static, Monday, 6 March 2017 02:26 (eight months ago) Permalink

My understanding is that he was never really a country guy, and had to figure out ways to fit his chops into Sturgill's songs. Obviously it worked out well for everyone.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 6 March 2017 03:55 (eight months ago) Permalink

Kind of interesting going with the smaller band for these bigger shows.

to fly across the city and find Aerosmith's car (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 6 March 2017 04:45 (eight months ago) Permalink

A change is a good thing. Joamets is a great player, but so is Sturgill.

van smack, Tuesday, 7 March 2017 01:48 (eight months ago) Permalink

eight months pass...

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