Tinashe - Aquarius (out October 7 2014)

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No thread for her yet? Talked about a bit in the Rolling R&B threads. 3 excellent mix tapes in 2012-13. Acclaimed early-2014 single ("2 On"). Proper debut album out in October. Latest single is "Pretend," with A$AP Rocky:

https://soundcloud.com/tinashenow/tinashe-pretend-featuring-aap-rocky/

MaudAddam (cryptosicko), Sunday, 24 August 2014 14:34 (seven years ago) link

"Pretend" is just heavenly. Highest hopes for this album.

Evan R, Sunday, 24 August 2014 22:38 (seven years ago) link

Yes, looking forward to this. Haven't checked out her tapes at all.

MikoMcha, Monday, 25 August 2014 07:09 (seven years ago) link

the last tape was pretty bad aside from "vulnerable" - which katy b later reworked into something more transcendent anyway.

uxorious gazumping (monotony), Monday, 25 August 2014 07:41 (seven years ago) link

this new song is awful

le goon (J0rdan S.), Monday, 25 August 2014 14:07 (seven years ago) link

"now i admit that i was fucking with a kid" is a line that could've been rewritten imo

lex pretend, Tuesday, 26 August 2014 09:06 (seven years ago) link

it reminds me of something specifically i can't put my finger on but more generally it's pretty superior morose rainy day r&b à la brandy's afrodisiac

lex pretend, Tuesday, 26 August 2014 09:08 (seven years ago) link

The Rocky verse in particular is very De La Soul/Teenage Fanclub

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOmdg3epcic

Evan R, Tuesday, 26 August 2014 14:00 (seven years ago) link

two weeks pass...

that asap rocky song is still trash but this is dope http://www.thefader.com/2014/09/15/tinashe-feels-like-vegas

le goon (J0rdan S.), Monday, 15 September 2014 15:34 (seven years ago) link

"It begs for a Wiz Khalifa guest verse"

lol foh Fader writers

Herbie Handcock (Murgatroid), Monday, 15 September 2014 16:12 (seven years ago) link

aw I like that A$AP track

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 15 September 2014 16:16 (seven years ago) link

Yeah "Pretend" is great. Weird hearing Stargate become Noah "40" Shebib on this Vegas track tho

Evan R, Monday, 15 September 2014 16:18 (seven years ago) link

2 On > Pretend > Heaven or Las Vegas

They're all great though.

Herbie Handcock (Murgatroid), Monday, 15 September 2014 16:18 (seven years ago) link

idh why j0rdan hates "pretend", i'd've thought it was totally in his wheelhouse

lex pretend, Monday, 15 September 2014 16:19 (seven years ago) link

*idg

lex pretend, Monday, 15 September 2014 16:19 (seven years ago) link

it's like R&B as written by linda perry -- i'm good

le goon (J0rdan S.), Monday, 15 September 2014 16:32 (seven years ago) link

Heaven or Las Vegas

interesting slip

een, Monday, 15 September 2014 16:40 (seven years ago) link

haha i was about to say

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 15 September 2014 16:42 (seven years ago) link

although it's easier to imagine Jhene Aiko singing "Heaven or Las Vegas"

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 15 September 2014 16:42 (seven years ago) link

Uhh, that was quite intentional.

Herbie Handcock (Murgatroid), Monday, 15 September 2014 16:43 (seven years ago) link

Pretend is hot garbage

deej loaf (D-40), Monday, 15 September 2014 18:10 (seven years ago) link

Also Matthew trammel is a good writer I don't think he nec. meant the wiz thing as a compliment

deej loaf (D-40), Monday, 15 September 2014 18:11 (seven years ago) link

yeah as a neutral statement i agree w/ him

le goon (J0rdan S.), Monday, 15 September 2014 18:41 (seven years ago) link

The song definitely needs something imo... there's a lot of space there it doesn't know how to fill

Evan R, Monday, 15 September 2014 18:48 (seven years ago) link

xps guess that was a lil too subtle for me, Herbie Handcock

een, Monday, 15 September 2014 19:08 (seven years ago) link

meh these non-"2 on" songs are boring, not sure she will ever get interesting ime

dyl, Monday, 15 September 2014 22:57 (seven years ago) link

Are y'all about to pull a Jessie Ware/Imagine It Was Us on this woman and constantly judge every new track by how it stacks up against the one song in her discography that was actually atypical of her usual sound?

Greer, Tuesday, 16 September 2014 01:14 (seven years ago) link

feel like jessie ware's recent output has been judged against far more than "imagine it was us"

idk, i guess i'm still checking for tinashe. i cherrypicked some of her mixtape tracks & like a few of em. just not v excited for this album yet.

dyl, Tuesday, 16 September 2014 02:42 (seven years ago) link

Jessie ware is dope, this is trash. easy

deej loaf (D-40), Tuesday, 16 September 2014 03:02 (seven years ago) link

Are y'all about to pull a Jessie Ware/Imagine It Was Us on this woman and constantly judge every new track by how it stacks up against the one song in her discography that was actually atypical of her usual sound?

― Greer

it's a slow night

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 16 September 2014 03:05 (seven years ago) link

i'm with j0rdan that linda perry doing r&b sounds most unwelcome, but i don't really see what "pretend" has to do with that. just sounds in the lane of all the other songs this year aiming to sound a bit like deep brandy album cuts off afrodisiac

don't think either new one is a patch on "2 on" (obv) and i hope it's not all in this vein but they're def better than anything from her mixtape days, i could see them clicking into place in album context

lex pretend, Tuesday, 16 September 2014 10:16 (seven years ago) link

The more I hear from this album the less sense I have of what it's trying to be. This is track 2 from the record, and its pacing and long, wonky guitar outro spit in the face of album sequencing best practices

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftB-DccfZkY

Evan R, Monday, 29 September 2014 14:00 (six years ago) link

Awesome!

MikoMcha, Tuesday, 30 September 2014 14:36 (six years ago) link

Stream doesn't work, blogs keep posting it anyway.

Greer, Tuesday, 30 September 2014 15:18 (six years ago) link

Content above all!

lex pretend, Tuesday, 30 September 2014 15:18 (six years ago) link

it's a pretty solid album

snrub goin up on a tuesday (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 15:28 (six years ago) link

it feels very zeitgeisty in a contained way

snrub goin up on a tuesday (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 15:28 (six years ago) link

that's vague

it feels zeitgeisty in that it tracks along post-drake, post-aaliyah is a goddess R&B but not like fka twigs or something where it's *all* about that

insofar as it's an album with inherent commercial motivations that still manages to sound 'hip' it feels perhaps even more idiosyncratic and considered than something like twigs where the aesthetic is really the meat of the album

snrub goin up on a tuesday (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 15:31 (six years ago) link

not that the two need to be pitted against each other or anything -- i like the twigs album a lot too

could swap jhene aiko out w/ twigs and i think the argument still holds

snrub goin up on a tuesday (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 15:31 (six years ago) link

I am very curious to hear this. does the stream not work for anyone? soundcloud told me it was because I was in the wrong country

rob, Tuesday, 30 September 2014 15:34 (six years ago) link

Everything else on her soundcloud plays for me except the album stream.

Greer, Tuesday, 30 September 2014 15:46 (six years ago) link

About halfway through, and am enjoying this - Aquarius seems like a really suitable title, given the full on shiny, aquatic dub sonics and subsumptive dynamics. And, ah, pan-pipes.

MikoMcha, Tuesday, 30 September 2014 16:25 (six years ago) link

Yeah, those pan-pipes...

Also about halfway through, also enjoying it.

Frederik B, Tuesday, 30 September 2014 16:26 (six years ago) link

it feels zeitgeisty in that it tracks along post-drake, post-aaliyah is a goddess R&B but not like fka twigs or something where it's *all* about that

what? the strength of the twigs album is that the pre-release narrative about that aesthetic is a gigantic red herring b/c it's not that relevant to the album, which feels like it's in another lineage entirely. it's got tinges of r&b about it but certainly not the real zeitgeisty sad-drake-r&b/glacial-aaliyah-vibes sort, and it's a v minor component anyway

lex pretend, Tuesday, 30 September 2014 18:10 (six years ago) link

How Many Times is amazing.

Greer, Tuesday, 30 September 2014 18:11 (six years ago) link

The stream I think is UK only but it worked for me using hola.

uxorious gazumping (monotony), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 21:22 (six years ago) link

oh thank you, I recently moved to Canada from the US and have been meaning to figure out a good vpn

rob, Tuesday, 30 September 2014 23:51 (six years ago) link

Man, I love the end of Bet, with the final thick chord, and then the guitar solo playing that little riff, which then becomes the bass-riff on Cold Sweat.

Frederik B, Wednesday, 1 October 2014 00:25 (six years ago) link

Half-expect Enya-sample from Ready or Not to drop at the start of Bet.

The best parts of this record recall Aaliyah's s/t slowjams.

It's crazy long tho, reminds me of Goldenheart that way - could have been a bit more concise.

MikoMcha, Thursday, 2 October 2014 06:59 (six years ago) link

I thought my speakers broke when I heard the grunts.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 11 August 2021 15:21 (one month ago) link

two listens through and this is pretty easily her best for me. no skips so far.

pure rim rest (Spottie), Wednesday, 11 August 2021 22:40 (one month ago) link

Hopscotch!

bop. boppp.

― maffew12, Tuesday, December 3, 2019 5:28 AM (one year ago) bookmarkflaglink

think ive settled on hopscotch being my favorite tinashe track tho
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88lVvXyMZrg

pure rim rest (Spottie), Wednesday, 11 August 2021 22:43 (one month ago) link

👆 Ta da dah

maf you one two (maffew12), Wednesday, 11 August 2021 23:00 (one month ago) link

the only issues i have with this are the closer is relatively weak and "shy guy" is way too good to be that short

ufo, Thursday, 12 August 2021 13:34 (one month ago) link

otm

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 12 August 2021 13:47 (one month ago) link

i agree w that

pure rim rest (Spottie), Thursday, 12 August 2021 16:58 (one month ago) link

This is very good! Correct that several of the songs are unnecessarily brief.

Back half of this is not very good unfortunately but the eight tracks from "I Can See the Future" to "Undo" are strong enough to make this potential top 10/15 of the year material. I think "X" is my fave of the bunch and is prob my summer jam.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n96u5qI1o8M

*blasts "the chase" so loud i am unable to read the previous post*

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Wednesday, 18 August 2021 14:47 (one month ago) link

"Small Reminders"!

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 18 August 2021 14:49 (one month ago) link

I was feeling similar to forks, but I think it might be mostly that "Last Call" does not work for me at all. Everyone otm about "Shy Guy" though damn

rob, Wednesday, 18 August 2021 15:08 (one month ago) link

Ok listening to Small Reminders in isolation was a good move, thanking u Alfred

rob, Wednesday, 18 August 2021 15:10 (one month ago) link

Like "Shy Guy" and the title track "Small Reminders" is a Russian doll of a song. Wow.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 18 August 2021 15:13 (one month ago) link

The g-funk break is like its own Shy Guy, a deliriously tantalizing glimpse of a whole other project, but good lord yes what a wonderfully constructed song

rob, Wednesday, 18 August 2021 15:16 (one month ago) link

It's like a mini-epic. You say Russian doll, I say fractals or palace of mirrors. Lyrics are pretty abstract too. Amazing bass work on the chorus, and that break comes from nowhere - sounds like something Kendrick Lamar would do ?

Nabozo, Wednesday, 18 August 2021 15:48 (one month ago) link

to forks's point, it would be the perfect album-ender

rob, Wednesday, 18 August 2021 15:53 (one month ago) link

To clarify, I don't like "Let Me Down Slowly" "Pasadena" "It's a Wrap" or "The Chase" at all and "Bouncin 2" is utterly superfluous. I fucks with "Last Call" and "Small Reminders" but that's bad signal-to-noise ratio as opposed to side a.

i think "it's a wrap" is a little weak and agree "bouncin' pt. 2" is superfluous but the rest are great

ufo, Wednesday, 18 August 2021 23:26 (one month ago) link

three weeks pass...

I don't know about you but I'm still playing the shit out of this album. I've had I can see the future - X - Bouncin - Undo - Pasadena - Small Reminders on heavy rotation. Going back to the album there is also Angels and, even if it does not really belong with the rest, The Chase. I'm amazed at the economy of means and vocal performance. I could push this to a ten.

Nabozo, Friday, 10 September 2021 14:10 (two weeks ago) link

Close to becoming my album of the year.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 10 September 2021 14:16 (two weeks ago) link

"Let Go" is so fucking pretty

Warmed Regards, (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 22 September 2021 13:34 (six days ago) link

also the beat in "The Chase" reminds me of this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDJrIz2LSXs

Warmed Regards, (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 22 September 2021 14:08 (six days ago) link

Is this the best tinashe album?

xheugy eddy (D-40), Thursday, 23 September 2021 21:22 (five days ago) link

it's not Aquarius.

braised cod, Thursday, 23 September 2021 21:31 (five days ago) link

has anyone caught her live on this tour? thinking about going when she comes through.

Linda and Jodie Rocco (map), Thursday, 23 September 2021 21:34 (five days ago) link

Is this the best tinashe album?

― xheugy eddy (D-40)

hell yeah

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 23 September 2021 21:38 (five days ago) link

yeah for sure

a talented ‘Rebel’ with Balls (Spottie), Thursday, 23 September 2021 21:47 (five days ago) link

xps Would go. Stream a few weeks ago from Made in America fest was great. And since I don't think this has been posted...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YftUS04Wi38

maf you one two (maffew12), Thursday, 23 September 2021 22:05 (five days ago) link

it's not Aquarius.

― braised cod, Thursday, September 23, 2021 4:31 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

aquarius is not that good

xheugy eddy (D-40), Thursday, 23 September 2021 22:43 (five days ago) link

2 on is classic ofc

xheugy eddy (D-40), Thursday, 23 September 2021 22:43 (five days ago) link

bated breath is the best one on there

a talented ‘Rebel’ with Balls (Spottie), Thursday, 23 September 2021 22:47 (five days ago) link

you guys are crazy

J0rdan S., Thursday, 23 September 2021 22:57 (five days ago) link

?

xheugy eddy (D-40), Thursday, 23 September 2021 23:00 (five days ago) link

what needs clarification? lol. aquarius is the better album

J0rdan S., Thursday, 23 September 2021 23:02 (five days ago) link

good morning!

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 23 September 2021 23:05 (five days ago) link

yea, i disagree. aquarius is super uneven at best. i liked like two songs and 'all hands on deck' is like...half good half dead eyed

xheugy eddy (D-40), Thursday, 23 September 2021 23:07 (five days ago) link

dare i say that i think aquarius is her third best...

songs for you is better too

a talented ‘Rebel’ with Balls (Spottie), Thursday, 23 September 2021 23:12 (five days ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EsiimlAP6E

maf you one two (maffew12), Thursday, 23 September 2021 23:18 (five days ago) link

went back and listened to this today to see if it was as good as i remember thinking at the time and i ended up thinking now that it held up even better than i expected it would. i guess because i like the rest of the world have been so cold on all the music she's put out since this, i was doubting whether this album was actually worth remembering or just seemed like it at the time. but there's just tons of great songs... there's a stretch in the middle that feels a little dated to me (how many times, pretend & all hands on deck... so many chintzy synths) but otherwise great songwriting and production throughout. aquarius, bet, cold sweat, 2 on, far side of the moon, feels like vegas, thug cry, bated breath, wildfire... all these ones sound as good to me now as ever.

― J0rdan S., Monday, February 19, 2018 10:57 PM (three years ago)

i still agree w/ this

J0rdan S., Thursday, 23 September 2021 23:29 (five days ago) link

couldn't choose between songs for you and 333 but both are even better than aquarius

ufo, Thursday, 23 September 2021 23:35 (five days ago) link

i might just give the edge to songs for you for not falling off in the last few tracks like 333 though idk

ufo, Thursday, 23 September 2021 23:39 (five days ago) link

the idea that there are two tinashe albums better than aquarius.... am i living in the truman show

J0rdan S., Thursday, 23 September 2021 23:43 (five days ago) link

i never liked her music (outside of 2 on) until recently so

xheugy eddy (D-40), Thursday, 23 September 2021 23:50 (five days ago) link

i'm going to put "feels like vegas" on to cleanse myself of this conversation. god save roscoe dash

J0rdan S., Thursday, 23 September 2021 23:53 (five days ago) link

i will say that the new cover of aquarius that she randomly put on streaming services is a travesty, if that is clouding the collective vision of this thread i understand

J0rdan S., Thursday, 23 September 2021 23:55 (five days ago) link

i don't think aquarius being only her third best is a particularly out there opinion, when songs for you came out there was a lot of "wow is this even better than aquarius?" discussion and then again with 333 vs songs for you

ufo, Friday, 24 September 2021 00:17 (four days ago) link

i think we can agree she's really something

maf you one two (maffew12), Friday, 24 September 2021 00:20 (four days ago) link

I'm sure it's been said but this feels like two albums. I prefer the Dawn-esque sleek, modern R&B on Side A (especially "I Can See the Future," "X" and "Bouncin") to the dancier/poppier Side B, though "Undo" and "Small Reminders" stood out after the mid point.

Indexed, Monday, 27 September 2021 19:05 (yesterday) link

I basically need to revisit her entire discography song by song to know for sure, but in the moment, 333 is her best album. The last time I had this immediate reaction was... In Case We Die. I never stopped listening, but found her albums uneven.

Nabozo, Monday, 27 September 2021 19:31 (yesterday) link


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