Beth Gibbons & Rustin' Man - Out Of Season

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her website plays 30 second soundclips of the forthcoming album tracks

Paul (scifisoul), Saturday, 19 October 2002 22:13 (seventeen years ago) link

some of the clips have been repeating in my head for days now

Paul (scifisoul), Saturday, 19 October 2002 22:16 (seventeen years ago) link

I need to actually listen to this thing -- the mp3s are around and Marcello was raving about it and the show.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 19 October 2002 22:17 (seventeen years ago) link

It's good.

naked as sin (naked as sin), Saturday, 19 October 2002 23:30 (seventeen years ago) link

I need this.

DavidM (DavidM), Sunday, 20 October 2002 21:03 (seventeen years ago) link

yes you do. check soulseek.

mark p (Mark P), Sunday, 20 October 2002 21:29 (seventeen years ago) link

is it just me or is 'tom the model' ripping off 'do what you gotta do' by nina simone (or whoever did it first)?

minna (minna), Sunday, 20 October 2002 22:15 (seventeen years ago) link

one month passes...
Should I buy this? Everything I've read about it is positive.

Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Thursday, 5 December 2002 01:03 (sixteen years ago) link

No, Fritz. It has only a couple of good songs. Most of it is howlingly bad.

Curt (cgould), Thursday, 5 December 2002 02:24 (sixteen years ago) link

Hey Fritz! I like it a lot (some of it does rip off Nina Simone, good, better yet!).

Sean (Sean), Thursday, 5 December 2002 04:18 (sixteen years ago) link

i agree with sean, fritz. and you? well, give it a once over and make your own decision. beyond 'tom the model', the fifth song, 'romance', rips off billie holliday's sound - but so what. the album may not be beth's meisterwerk but if you like portishead, buy - dare i say download - it.

jason elliott, Thursday, 5 December 2002 05:02 (sixteen years ago) link

hmmm... what a dilemma. curt and sean disagree. what to do? seriously, you 2 are both always on the money.

Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Thursday, 5 December 2002 05:11 (sixteen years ago) link

(no offense may well be an on the money type too)

Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Thursday, 5 December 2002 05:13 (sixteen years ago) link

I'm always changing my mind about new releases, so this could turn out to be one. I'll give it another try, but it sure wasn't doing it for me earlier.

Curt (cgould), Thursday, 5 December 2002 07:15 (sixteen years ago) link

I've been listening to it a lot in the last couple of weeks and it sounds great to me.

And jason's right about 'Romance' sounding like Billie Holliday, but I like the fact that she's happy to pastiche different vocal styles and play around with things vocally. It's one of the things that really distinguishes it from a Portishead record.

James Ball (James Ball), Thursday, 5 December 2002 10:27 (sixteen years ago) link

'Mysteries' is very nice

stevem (blueski), Thursday, 5 December 2002 14:31 (sixteen years ago) link

Whoever said she's more an actress than a singer was bang on. Highly recommended.

mark p (Mark P), Thursday, 5 December 2002 15:10 (sixteen years ago) link

i like it lots mostly except for the steep import price. it actually feels quite liberated divorced from the Portishead sound, I think I prefer her sadness in this more unadulterated uncompromised mode. It was an album that grew considerably for me and got under my skin over time.

Honda (Honda), Thursday, 5 December 2002 22:47 (sixteen years ago) link

Is this coming out in the U.S. or what?

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 6 December 2002 04:11 (sixteen years ago) link

I'm listening to it now! it was only $15.98 at Amoeba btw.

Sean (Sean), Friday, 6 December 2002 04:19 (sixteen years ago) link

Remember to skip track 4! *shudder*

Curt (cgould), Friday, 6 December 2002 04:28 (sixteen years ago) link

ten months pass...
Revive only to mention how much I love this album. And how could almost a year have gone by since it came out? I met a smartly-dressed couple a few nights ago who turned out to have just come from Beth Gibbons' show... I forgot about it. I wanted to go, but they said she was fantastic, which was good to hear. Anyway, 'small' albums like this need to get more attention so here it is.

Sean (Sean), Tuesday, 28 October 2003 06:10 (sixteen years ago) link

I love it too.

As I tried -- fairly awkwardly -- to say in this update last year. Apologies in advance for that cliché in the final sentence, but I really wanted (and still want) more people to hear this album. Anyone who hears MOR/AOR on Out of Season isn't listening past the first layer.

David A. (Davant), Tuesday, 28 October 2003 09:16 (sixteen years ago) link

Yeah, missed the LA show -- a clutch of us at the library wanted to go but work schedules (they mostly work night shifts) meant it wasn't going to happen.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 28 October 2003 13:55 (sixteen years ago) link

Might be a good time to pick up a used import CD, as the domestic (US) version that recently came out contains a video that you can live without, and one bonus track that's a cover (Candy Says). I wouldn't be surprised to see the imports popping up on eBay/ as people upgrade to the new version.

dlp9001, Tuesday, 28 October 2003 15:51 (sixteen years ago) link

one month passes...
The candy says cover isn't all that great, it's nice and all, but it's unnecessary when you could just listen to the original. The video too isn't much. But the rest is super!

A Nairn (moretap), Thursday, 4 December 2003 07:06 (fifteen years ago) link

one year passes...
Looks like it's the old thread revive! What do people think of this 2 years on? We like to throw it on every couple months. A great late evening record, low lights, red wine and the like. Agree with whoever said that Gibbons is more interesting to listen to without the Portishead sound. That said, am looking forward to another Portishead release, rumoured for 2005 if not mistaken.

PiersT, Monday, 7 February 2005 13:07 (fourteen years ago) link

it's still gorgeous and I wish she'd do another

kyle (akmonday), Monday, 7 February 2005 14:57 (fourteen years ago) link

I fucking love this record. The production is amazing - those "oohs" and "aahs" on "Mysteries" are so... Botticelli, y'know?

Forget Zero 7 / Lemon Jelly / Sia / Susannah + Magic Orchestra etc etc - all that female-fronted chill-out shit really is as bad as you think, but this is something very different and very special, in my ears.

I think it's up there with anything by Portishead and Talk Talk, which is no meat feat, eh.

Huey (Huey), Monday, 7 February 2005 15:12 (fourteen years ago) link

If I'd got my arse in gear to nominate for the 00s poll, "mysteries" would have been my nomination. I don't think another song has affected me in quite the same way in recent years.

The rest of it, beyond "tom the model", I don't remember. I've played the first song a lot, and the rest very infrequently. Also, most of it feels like an Autumn album, so its erm...out of season.. at the moment.

I was thinking about this album earlier, actually. About time it had another play.

hobart paving (hobart paving), Monday, 7 February 2005 22:45 (fourteen years ago) link

I still feel the love for this album, most definitely.

David A. (Davant), Tuesday, 8 February 2005 04:18 (fourteen years ago) link

eleven months pass...
I'm redisovering this lately. Didn't do much the first time around, but it now sounds pretty great although so relentlessly bitter that i can only sip it in small doses.

Baaderonixx born in Xyxax (baaderonixx), Monday, 9 January 2006 16:51 (thirteen years ago) link

this is a really pretty record.

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Monday, 9 January 2006 16:55 (thirteen years ago) link

i wish they'd do a follow up.

kyle (akmonday), Monday, 9 January 2006 16:56 (thirteen years ago) link

I've been thinking about this album today (not playing it, just thinking about it) so its interesting to see this thread re-emerge.

Is it the drizzle and the damp, do you think?

Fantastic album. I think "mysteries" is still my favourite song of the 00s so far.

hobart paving (hobart paving), Monday, 9 January 2006 23:38 (thirteen years ago) link

I love this album. One of the best of the 'new folk' thing, although it is rarely mentioned in that context.
I tend to play it with Mark Hollis' solo album. It has the same kind of feel: it puts flesh on the bare bones he created.

bham, Tuesday, 10 January 2006 10:22 (thirteen years ago) link

The album has been sitting in my desk for two years. It's there now. I played it 5-6 times two years ago when I got it, and not since. No track stands out in my memory at all, and I tend to like atmospheric trip-hoppy stuff a lot. (I got Juana Molina's Segundo at the same time, and have played it 100s of times, along with her later Tres. Same ballpark, much better game.)

Vornado, Tuesday, 10 January 2006 17:20 (thirteen years ago) link

Could anybody please YSI that 'Candy Says' cover/bonus track for a poor European? Thanks.

Ben (crispyben), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 17:58 (thirteen years ago) link

I disagree! Juana Molina is in a much different ballpark than "Out of Season" (I like both very much). Molina is woozy/dreamy/droney, whle Gibbons has the cabaret/pop element, and much stronger pipes, which determines a lot of what she does musically. Most of that album has very little to do with trip-hop.

When I heard Portishead were working on a new album, my first thought was that I'd much rather hear a new Gibbons solo album.

Then "Candy Says" cover sucks, though.

These Robust Cookies (Robust Cookies), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 19:30 (thirteen years ago) link

two years pass...

so today i dug this out along with the Mark Hollis album.
did the all important ILM search only to find that I am not alone in putting these 2 albums together.
i suspect that out of season is going to get a lot of love during this week of late shifts.

mark e, Monday, 31 March 2008 18:19 (eleven years ago) link

I just bought this over the weekend! It sounded great last night.

f. hazel, Monday, 31 March 2008 19:47 (eleven years ago) link

this is where i admit that i only just bought the old portishead albums last week.

mark e, Monday, 31 March 2008 19:59 (eleven years ago) link

Amazing how people can buy albums which aren't out for another four weeks.

Dingbod Kesterson, Tuesday, 1 April 2008 09:42 (eleven years ago) link

Amazing how people lack basic reading comprehension.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 1 April 2008 09:44 (eleven years ago) link


Stevie T, Tuesday, 1 April 2008 09:52 (eleven years ago) link

To be honest that was a gaffe and a haffe.

Dingbod Kesterson, Tuesday, 1 April 2008 10:00 (eleven years ago) link

Dingbod Gaffney's Gaffes.

Raw Patrick, Tuesday, 1 April 2008 10:14 (eleven years ago) link

The James Yorkston/Rustin Man album of a year or two ago is pretty good too. Again, a similar Talk Talk-ish feel.

bham, Tuesday, 1 April 2008 13:07 (eleven years ago) link

I love this record but, for me, it's not a Spring or Summer record. It's a bit out of season for this. This is a classic late Autumn record. A chill in the air, a sweater, some crunchy leaves, etc.

kwhitehead, Tuesday, 1 April 2008 18:01 (eleven years ago) link

exactly, I first heard this in November, in London, and nothing could be more perfect

akm, Tuesday, 1 April 2008 18:48 (eleven years ago) link

this is probably one of my favourite albums ever

lex pretend, Friday, 30 October 2015 08:56 (four years ago) link

I love Portishead but I said it two years ago; this one is the Beth Gibbons related record I keep coming back to. It received mixed reviews and it might have had low sales I suppose but I really want a followup. The best song on P3 is 'the rip' by far and it's indebted to this record... at least it sounds closer to this sound than the first two Portishead albums. I hope it's not the closest thing we ever get to out of season pt2.

I love you Beth Gibbons but you are incredibly effete. 4 albums in 20+ years!? If I had that voice I wouldn't stop collaborating everywhere.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 30 October 2015 09:08 (four years ago) link

No way. Honestly I think the single most undervalued commodity in modern pop music is MYSTIQUE and Beth has it in spades. I don't want her diluting that by turning up on Father John Misty albums or whatever.

Matt DC, Friday, 30 October 2015 11:04 (four years ago) link

Did this come at some point with a live bonus disc pretty much playing the whole album or was that a boot? I want that.

banned on ixlor (Jon not Jon), Friday, 30 October 2015 13:02 (four years ago) link

No way. Honestly I think the single most undervalued commodity in modern pop music is MYSTIQUE and Beth has it in spades. I don't want her diluting that by turning up on Father John Misty albums or whatever.

^^^^cosign x a million

Jimmywine Dyspeptic, Friday, 30 October 2015 13:47 (four years ago) link

Hah why did you have to do such a nefarious pairing? I meant collabs like out of season or that black sabbath cover she did. They work because they are leftfield collabs with out of the spotlight artists, I'm not saying she collabs with father john misty, or gorillaz, or big boi. She could keep her mystique by releasing every now and then music with relatively unknown bands or artists with an inclination towards the avant garde.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 30 October 2015 17:51 (four years ago) link

Specially with that voice of hers. At this rate of release she only has two more albums before she is too old to tune the same way she does.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 30 October 2015 17:53 (four years ago) link

yeah I love this album. bought it when it came out when I was in London for a few weeks and listened to it nonstop.

akm, Friday, 30 October 2015 18:39 (four years ago) link

thus, it is in the quintessential english fall album for me

akm, Friday, 30 October 2015 18:40 (four years ago) link

classic all the way

Comme Si, Kamasi (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 30 October 2015 19:23 (four years ago) link

this is probably one of my favourite albums ever

― lex pretend, Friday, 30 October 2015 08:56 (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Tell The BTLs to Fuck Off (wins), Saturday, 31 October 2015 19:39 (four years ago) link

I never expected a member of portishead and a member of talk talk to be snappy with a follow-up tho tbh

Tell The BTLs to Fuck Off (wins), Saturday, 31 October 2015 19:44 (four years ago) link

What are the other Talk Talk guys up to, Hollis aside?

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 31 October 2015 21:55 (four years ago) link

I can't find any signs of activity from any of them. Is Webb definitely involved with new gibbons album?

banned on ixlor (Jon not Jon), Saturday, 31 October 2015 21:57 (four years ago) link

Not new but new to me (and not mentioned here):

djh, Saturday, 31 October 2015 22:16 (four years ago) link

relistened to this tonight. i still remembered most songs as if they had been engraved in my brain though i hadn't listened to them for maybe ten years. i was a little disappointed, in my memory the music was stronger, the tunes were less obvious. sometimes it would be better not to revisit old albums, as it is almost impossible to relive the original enthusiasm.

it's the distortion, stupid! (alex in mainhattan), Saturday, 31 October 2015 22:32 (four years ago) link

The only song I remember from the list of songs is "Tom the Model," which is the only one with a strong melody, iirc. I did see Gibbons and Webb and band live, but remember nil.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 31 October 2015 22:38 (four years ago) link

Not new but new to me (and not mentioned here):

― djh, Saturday, October 31, 2015 10:16 PM (Yesterday)

Hah why did you have to do such a nefarious pairing? I meant collabs like out of season or that black sabbath cover she did.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, October 30, 2015 5:51 PM (2 days ago)

✖✖✖ (Moka), Sunday, 1 November 2015 19:51 (four years ago) link

Nobody ever reads me :(

✖✖✖ (Moka), Sunday, 1 November 2015 19:51 (four years ago) link

Oh yes. I blame alcohol.

djh, Sunday, 1 November 2015 20:02 (four years ago) link

yeah what happened to this new solo album

akm, Sunday, 1 November 2015 20:06 (four years ago) link

three years pass...

Who knew? An actual standalone Rustin Man album due next year, first single here:

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 15 November 2018 17:00 (one year ago) link


valet doberman (Jon not Jon), Friday, 16 November 2018 02:11 (eleven months ago) link

two months pass...

Brand new Twitter account for Beth

— Beth Gibbons (@realbethgibbons) January 28, 2019

groovypanda, Monday, 28 January 2019 12:50 (nine months ago) link

Presumably that photo is tied to the release of this:

Looking forward to hearing this. I highly doubt it will be as good as the definitive Dawn Upshaw recording, but we shall see.

the word dog doesn't bark (anagram), Thursday, 31 January 2019 10:52 (nine months ago) link

Eh, I much prefer the Soviet-era recordings – the first one, with Stefania Woytowicz and Ernest Bour in particular.

Looking forward to this.

pomenitul, Thursday, 31 January 2019 11:05 (nine months ago) link

Speaking of that recording, the French label Erato re-released it in 1986 as the soundtrack to Maurice Pialat's Police, with Gérard Depardieu and Sophie Marceau, heh:

pomenitul, Thursday, 31 January 2019 11:20 (nine months ago) link

Details here

‘Henryk Górecki: Symphony No. 3 (Symphony of Sorrowful Songs)’ will be released on heavyweight deluxe vinyl with a mounted 16page booklet insert, bonus concert film DVD and a limited edition photo print signed by Beth.


— Beth Gibbons (@realbethgibbons) January 31, 2019

groovypanda, Thursday, 31 January 2019 13:42 (nine months ago) link

Also I believe Rustin Man has a new album out tomorrow?

change display name (Jordan), Thursday, 31 January 2019 15:19 (nine months ago) link

^^^that's the one I'm excited about

valet doberman (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 31 January 2019 16:16 (nine months ago) link

Yes! I preordered it and the pre-release downloads are all very nice.

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Thursday, 31 January 2019 16:21 (nine months ago) link

I highly doubt it will be as good as the definitive Dawn Upshaw recording, but we shall see.

― the word dog doesn't bark (anagram)

I agree that the Dawn Upshaw recording is probably the definitive one, but I don't think that surpassing it was the goal here. Gibbons has a vocal style that's miles away from classically trained sopranos, so I'm very curious to hear her version. The performance got very good reviews when it took place here back in 2014, so I'm excited it's finally being released. I think in general the 3rd Symphony lends itself well to modern reinterpretations (loved Colin Stetson's take on it, too, especially live).

ˈʌglɪɪst preɪ, Thursday, 31 January 2019 18:55 (nine months ago) link

Yeah, the Stetson is great

Mince Pramthwart (James Morrison), Thursday, 31 January 2019 22:03 (nine months ago) link

I'm enjoying the Rustin' Man; his voice is very like Robert Wyatt / late Bowie.

fetter, Friday, 1 February 2019 10:08 (nine months ago) link

bit of a bill fay vibe in places too. enjoying it so far!

my name is leee john, for we are many (NickB), Friday, 1 February 2019 13:16 (nine months ago) link

yeah the three tracks I listened to last night were great.

akm, Friday, 1 February 2019 13:38 (nine months ago) link

Wow, this is excellent and he totally has that Wyatt / later Bowie timbre in his voice. Pretty stellar year, even this early.

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Friday, 1 February 2019 16:45 (nine months ago) link

He sounds like a mixture of Davids Palmer and Bowie!

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Friday, 1 February 2019 17:18 (nine months ago) link

also yes if I heard this out somewhere I would have assumed it was a Robert Wyatt album I'd never heard before. Finally gave the whole thing a listen, excellent.

akm, Friday, 1 February 2019 18:29 (nine months ago) link

I'd love to know what's prompted him to record another album at this point. Perhaps Bowie and the thought of his own morality.

'The World's In Town' is still so new, but such an amazing song. . . it doesn't even seem real at this point.

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Friday, 1 February 2019 23:10 (nine months ago) link

from what I can glean he has been making the album for many years and he wanted to play most parts himself so learned a lot of instruments well enough to be able to play them and recorded the requisite parts over a long period of time then assembled and mixed them into tracks.

Acting Crazy (Instrumental) (jed_), Saturday, 2 February 2019 00:13 (nine months ago) link

here it is

"Apparently he wanted to learn the assorted instruments he plays on it well enough to be comfortable recording himself, and had to build up the arrangements as his capabilities increased. Each instrument’s contribution to the album was recorded in turn, rather than track by track"

Acting Crazy (Instrumental) (jed_), Saturday, 2 February 2019 00:16 (nine months ago) link

Ah so Lee Harris plays on there!

valet doberman (Jon not Jon), Saturday, 2 February 2019 02:15 (nine months ago) link

“Robert Wyatt sings Blackstar” is eerily spot-on. It’s actually a bit distracting at first, like when you watch Christian Slater and it takes a few minutes to spot Christian Slater behind the guy practicing his Nicholson impression in the bathroom mirror.

That said I love the shit out of this

gray say nah to me (wins), Saturday, 2 February 2019 16:43 (nine months ago) link

one month passes...

Anyone heard Beth Gibbons & The Polish National Radio Symphony Orchestra - Henryk Górecki: Symphony No. 3 (Symphony Of Sorrowful Songs)?

djh, Monday, 25 March 2019 19:58 (seven months ago) link

cOMES OUT ON fRIDAY, i THINK. mY COPY IS ALLegedly in the post, sorry caps lock falure.

Mince Pramthwart (James Morrison), Monday, 25 March 2019 21:58 (seven months ago) link

Possible I'm being a dick but the Youtube "teaser" didn't really, um, tease enough to prompt a purchase.

djh, Monday, 25 March 2019 22:01 (seven months ago) link

three months pass...

whoa this record

american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 3 July 2019 15:26 (four months ago) link

the new rustin man i mean, though out of season rules

american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 3 July 2019 15:27 (four months ago) link

its amazing that he was learning all to play all the instruments on this album as he made it

. (Michael B), Wednesday, 3 July 2019 16:40 (four months ago) link

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