Beth Gibbons & Rustin' Man - Out Of Season

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her website plays 30 second soundclips of the forthcoming album tracks

Paul (scifisoul), Saturday, 19 October 2002 22:13 (seventeen years ago) link

some of the clips have been repeating in my head for days now

Paul (scifisoul), Saturday, 19 October 2002 22:16 (seventeen years ago) link

I need to actually listen to this thing -- the mp3s are around and Marcello was raving about it and the show.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 19 October 2002 22:17 (seventeen years ago) link

It's good.

naked as sin (naked as sin), Saturday, 19 October 2002 23:30 (seventeen years ago) link

I need this.

DavidM (DavidM), Sunday, 20 October 2002 21:03 (seventeen years ago) link

yes you do. check soulseek.

mark p (Mark P), Sunday, 20 October 2002 21:29 (seventeen years ago) link

is it just me or is 'tom the model' ripping off 'do what you gotta do' by nina simone (or whoever did it first)?

minna (minna), Sunday, 20 October 2002 22:15 (seventeen years ago) link

one month passes...
Should I buy this? Everything I've read about it is positive.

Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Thursday, 5 December 2002 01:03 (seventeen years ago) link

No, Fritz. It has only a couple of good songs. Most of it is howlingly bad.

Curt (cgould), Thursday, 5 December 2002 02:24 (seventeen years ago) link

Hey Fritz! I like it a lot (some of it does rip off Nina Simone, good, better yet!).

Sean (Sean), Thursday, 5 December 2002 04:18 (seventeen years ago) link

i agree with sean, fritz. and you? well, give it a once over and make your own decision. beyond 'tom the model', the fifth song, 'romance', rips off billie holliday's sound - but so what. the album may not be beth's meisterwerk but if you like portishead, buy - dare i say download - it.

jason elliott, Thursday, 5 December 2002 05:02 (seventeen years ago) link

hmmm... what a dilemma. curt and sean disagree. what to do? seriously, you 2 are both always on the money.

Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Thursday, 5 December 2002 05:11 (seventeen years ago) link

(no offense may well be an on the money type too)

Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Thursday, 5 December 2002 05:13 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm always changing my mind about new releases, so this could turn out to be one. I'll give it another try, but it sure wasn't doing it for me earlier.

Curt (cgould), Thursday, 5 December 2002 07:15 (seventeen years ago) link

I've been listening to it a lot in the last couple of weeks and it sounds great to me.

And jason's right about 'Romance' sounding like Billie Holliday, but I like the fact that she's happy to pastiche different vocal styles and play around with things vocally. It's one of the things that really distinguishes it from a Portishead record.

James Ball (James Ball), Thursday, 5 December 2002 10:27 (seventeen years ago) link

'Mysteries' is very nice

stevem (blueski), Thursday, 5 December 2002 14:31 (seventeen years ago) link

Whoever said she's more an actress than a singer was bang on. Highly recommended.

mark p (Mark P), Thursday, 5 December 2002 15:10 (seventeen years ago) link

i like it lots mostly except for the steep import price. it actually feels quite liberated divorced from the Portishead sound, I think I prefer her sadness in this more unadulterated uncompromised mode. It was an album that grew considerably for me and got under my skin over time.

Honda (Honda), Thursday, 5 December 2002 22:47 (seventeen years ago) link

Is this coming out in the U.S. or what?

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 6 December 2002 04:11 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm listening to it now! it was only $15.98 at Amoeba btw.

Sean (Sean), Friday, 6 December 2002 04:19 (seventeen years ago) link

Remember to skip track 4! *shudder*

Curt (cgould), Friday, 6 December 2002 04:28 (seventeen years ago) link

ten months pass...
Revive only to mention how much I love this album. And how could almost a year have gone by since it came out? I met a smartly-dressed couple a few nights ago who turned out to have just come from Beth Gibbons' show... I forgot about it. I wanted to go, but they said she was fantastic, which was good to hear. Anyway, 'small' albums like this need to get more attention so here it is.

Sean (Sean), Tuesday, 28 October 2003 06:10 (sixteen years ago) link

I love it too.

As I tried -- fairly awkwardly -- to say in this update last year. Apologies in advance for that cliché in the final sentence, but I really wanted (and still want) more people to hear this album. Anyone who hears MOR/AOR on Out of Season isn't listening past the first layer.

David A. (Davant), Tuesday, 28 October 2003 09:16 (sixteen years ago) link

Yeah, missed the LA show -- a clutch of us at the library wanted to go but work schedules (they mostly work night shifts) meant it wasn't going to happen.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 28 October 2003 13:55 (sixteen years ago) link

Might be a good time to pick up a used import CD, as the domestic (US) version that recently came out contains a video that you can live without, and one bonus track that's a cover (Candy Says). I wouldn't be surprised to see the imports popping up on eBay/ as people upgrade to the new version.

dlp9001, Tuesday, 28 October 2003 15:51 (sixteen years ago) link

one month passes...
The candy says cover isn't all that great, it's nice and all, but it's unnecessary when you could just listen to the original. The video too isn't much. But the rest is super!

A Nairn (moretap), Thursday, 4 December 2003 07:06 (sixteen years ago) link

one year passes...
Looks like it's the old thread revive! What do people think of this 2 years on? We like to throw it on every couple months. A great late evening record, low lights, red wine and the like. Agree with whoever said that Gibbons is more interesting to listen to without the Portishead sound. That said, am looking forward to another Portishead release, rumoured for 2005 if not mistaken.

PiersT, Monday, 7 February 2005 13:07 (fifteen years ago) link

it's still gorgeous and I wish she'd do another

kyle (akmonday), Monday, 7 February 2005 14:57 (fifteen years ago) link

I fucking love this record. The production is amazing - those "oohs" and "aahs" on "Mysteries" are so... Botticelli, y'know?

Forget Zero 7 / Lemon Jelly / Sia / Susannah + Magic Orchestra etc etc - all that female-fronted chill-out shit really is as bad as you think, but this is something very different and very special, in my ears.

I think it's up there with anything by Portishead and Talk Talk, which is no meat feat, eh.

Huey (Huey), Monday, 7 February 2005 15:12 (fifteen years ago) link

If I'd got my arse in gear to nominate for the 00s poll, "mysteries" would have been my nomination. I don't think another song has affected me in quite the same way in recent years.

The rest of it, beyond "tom the model", I don't remember. I've played the first song a lot, and the rest very infrequently. Also, most of it feels like an Autumn album, so its erm...out of season.. at the moment.

I was thinking about this album earlier, actually. About time it had another play.

hobart paving (hobart paving), Monday, 7 February 2005 22:45 (fifteen years ago) link

I still feel the love for this album, most definitely.

David A. (Davant), Tuesday, 8 February 2005 04:18 (fifteen years ago) link

eleven months pass...
I'm redisovering this lately. Didn't do much the first time around, but it now sounds pretty great although so relentlessly bitter that i can only sip it in small doses.

Baaderonixx born in Xyxax (baaderonixx), Monday, 9 January 2006 16:51 (fourteen years ago) link

this is a really pretty record.

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Monday, 9 January 2006 16:55 (fourteen years ago) link

i wish they'd do a follow up.

kyle (akmonday), Monday, 9 January 2006 16:56 (fourteen years ago) link

I've been thinking about this album today (not playing it, just thinking about it) so its interesting to see this thread re-emerge.

Is it the drizzle and the damp, do you think?

Fantastic album. I think "mysteries" is still my favourite song of the 00s so far.

hobart paving (hobart paving), Monday, 9 January 2006 23:38 (fourteen years ago) link

I love this album. One of the best of the 'new folk' thing, although it is rarely mentioned in that context.
I tend to play it with Mark Hollis' solo album. It has the same kind of feel: it puts flesh on the bare bones he created.

bham, Tuesday, 10 January 2006 10:22 (fourteen years ago) link

The album has been sitting in my desk for two years. It's there now. I played it 5-6 times two years ago when I got it, and not since. No track stands out in my memory at all, and I tend to like atmospheric trip-hoppy stuff a lot. (I got Juana Molina's Segundo at the same time, and have played it 100s of times, along with her later Tres. Same ballpark, much better game.)

Vornado, Tuesday, 10 January 2006 17:20 (fourteen years ago) link

Could anybody please YSI that 'Candy Says' cover/bonus track for a poor European? Thanks.

Ben (crispyben), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 17:58 (fourteen years ago) link

I disagree! Juana Molina is in a much different ballpark than "Out of Season" (I like both very much). Molina is woozy/dreamy/droney, whle Gibbons has the cabaret/pop element, and much stronger pipes, which determines a lot of what she does musically. Most of that album has very little to do with trip-hop.

When I heard Portishead were working on a new album, my first thought was that I'd much rather hear a new Gibbons solo album.

Then "Candy Says" cover sucks, though.

These Robust Cookies (Robust Cookies), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 19:30 (fourteen years ago) link

two years pass...

so today i dug this out along with the Mark Hollis album.
did the all important ILM search only to find that I am not alone in putting these 2 albums together.
i suspect that out of season is going to get a lot of love during this week of late shifts.

mark e, Monday, 31 March 2008 18:19 (twelve years ago) link

I just bought this over the weekend! It sounded great last night.

f. hazel, Monday, 31 March 2008 19:47 (twelve years ago) link

this is where i admit that i only just bought the old portishead albums last week.

mark e, Monday, 31 March 2008 19:59 (twelve years ago) link

Amazing how people can buy albums which aren't out for another four weeks.

Dingbod Kesterson, Tuesday, 1 April 2008 09:42 (twelve years ago) link

Amazing how people lack basic reading comprehension.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 1 April 2008 09:44 (twelve years ago) link


Stevie T, Tuesday, 1 April 2008 09:52 (twelve years ago) link

To be honest that was a gaffe and a haffe.

Dingbod Kesterson, Tuesday, 1 April 2008 10:00 (twelve years ago) link

Dingbod Gaffney's Gaffes.

Raw Patrick, Tuesday, 1 April 2008 10:14 (twelve years ago) link

The James Yorkston/Rustin Man album of a year or two ago is pretty good too. Again, a similar Talk Talk-ish feel.

bham, Tuesday, 1 April 2008 13:07 (twelve years ago) link

I love this record but, for me, it's not a Spring or Summer record. It's a bit out of season for this. This is a classic late Autumn record. A chill in the air, a sweater, some crunchy leaves, etc.

kwhitehead, Tuesday, 1 April 2008 18:01 (twelve years ago) link

exactly, I first heard this in November, in London, and nothing could be more perfect

akm, Tuesday, 1 April 2008 18:48 (twelve years ago) link

The only song I remember from the list of songs is "Tom the Model," which is the only one with a strong melody, iirc. I did see Gibbons and Webb and band live, but remember nil.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 31 October 2015 22:38 (four years ago) link

Not new but new to me (and not mentioned here):

― djh, Saturday, October 31, 2015 10:16 PM (Yesterday)

Hah why did you have to do such a nefarious pairing? I meant collabs like out of season or that black sabbath cover she did.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, October 30, 2015 5:51 PM (2 days ago)

✖✖✖ (Moka), Sunday, 1 November 2015 19:51 (four years ago) link

Nobody ever reads me :(

✖✖✖ (Moka), Sunday, 1 November 2015 19:51 (four years ago) link

Oh yes. I blame alcohol.

djh, Sunday, 1 November 2015 20:02 (four years ago) link

yeah what happened to this new solo album

akm, Sunday, 1 November 2015 20:06 (four years ago) link

three years pass...

Who knew? An actual standalone Rustin Man album due next year, first single here:

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 15 November 2018 17:00 (one year ago) link


valet doberman (Jon not Jon), Friday, 16 November 2018 02:11 (one year ago) link

two months pass...

Brand new Twitter account for Beth

— Beth Gibbons (@realbethgibbons) January 28, 2019

groovypanda, Monday, 28 January 2019 12:50 (one year ago) link

Presumably that photo is tied to the release of this:

Looking forward to hearing this. I highly doubt it will be as good as the definitive Dawn Upshaw recording, but we shall see.

the word dog doesn't bark (anagram), Thursday, 31 January 2019 10:52 (one year ago) link

Eh, I much prefer the Soviet-era recordings – the first one, with Stefania Woytowicz and Ernest Bour in particular.

Looking forward to this.

pomenitul, Thursday, 31 January 2019 11:05 (one year ago) link

Speaking of that recording, the French label Erato re-released it in 1986 as the soundtrack to Maurice Pialat's Police, with Gérard Depardieu and Sophie Marceau, heh:

pomenitul, Thursday, 31 January 2019 11:20 (one year ago) link

Details here

‘Henryk Górecki: Symphony No. 3 (Symphony of Sorrowful Songs)’ will be released on heavyweight deluxe vinyl with a mounted 16page booklet insert, bonus concert film DVD and a limited edition photo print signed by Beth.


— Beth Gibbons (@realbethgibbons) January 31, 2019

groovypanda, Thursday, 31 January 2019 13:42 (one year ago) link

Also I believe Rustin Man has a new album out tomorrow?

change display name (Jordan), Thursday, 31 January 2019 15:19 (one year ago) link

^^^that's the one I'm excited about

valet doberman (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 31 January 2019 16:16 (one year ago) link

Yes! I preordered it and the pre-release downloads are all very nice.

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Thursday, 31 January 2019 16:21 (one year ago) link

I highly doubt it will be as good as the definitive Dawn Upshaw recording, but we shall see.

― the word dog doesn't bark (anagram)

I agree that the Dawn Upshaw recording is probably the definitive one, but I don't think that surpassing it was the goal here. Gibbons has a vocal style that's miles away from classically trained sopranos, so I'm very curious to hear her version. The performance got very good reviews when it took place here back in 2014, so I'm excited it's finally being released. I think in general the 3rd Symphony lends itself well to modern reinterpretations (loved Colin Stetson's take on it, too, especially live).

ˈʌglɪɪst preɪ, Thursday, 31 January 2019 18:55 (one year ago) link

Yeah, the Stetson is great

Mince Pramthwart (James Morrison), Thursday, 31 January 2019 22:03 (one year ago) link

I'm enjoying the Rustin' Man; his voice is very like Robert Wyatt / late Bowie.

fetter, Friday, 1 February 2019 10:08 (one year ago) link

bit of a bill fay vibe in places too. enjoying it so far!

my name is leee john, for we are many (NickB), Friday, 1 February 2019 13:16 (one year ago) link

yeah the three tracks I listened to last night were great.

akm, Friday, 1 February 2019 13:38 (one year ago) link

Wow, this is excellent and he totally has that Wyatt / later Bowie timbre in his voice. Pretty stellar year, even this early.

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Friday, 1 February 2019 16:45 (one year ago) link

He sounds like a mixture of Davids Palmer and Bowie!

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Friday, 1 February 2019 17:18 (one year ago) link

also yes if I heard this out somewhere I would have assumed it was a Robert Wyatt album I'd never heard before. Finally gave the whole thing a listen, excellent.

akm, Friday, 1 February 2019 18:29 (one year ago) link

I'd love to know what's prompted him to record another album at this point. Perhaps Bowie and the thought of his own morality.

'The World's In Town' is still so new, but such an amazing song. . . it doesn't even seem real at this point.

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Friday, 1 February 2019 23:10 (one year ago) link

from what I can glean he has been making the album for many years and he wanted to play most parts himself so learned a lot of instruments well enough to be able to play them and recorded the requisite parts over a long period of time then assembled and mixed them into tracks.

Acting Crazy (Instrumental) (jed_), Saturday, 2 February 2019 00:13 (one year ago) link

here it is

"Apparently he wanted to learn the assorted instruments he plays on it well enough to be comfortable recording himself, and had to build up the arrangements as his capabilities increased. Each instrument’s contribution to the album was recorded in turn, rather than track by track"

Acting Crazy (Instrumental) (jed_), Saturday, 2 February 2019 00:16 (one year ago) link

Ah so Lee Harris plays on there!

valet doberman (Jon not Jon), Saturday, 2 February 2019 02:15 (one year ago) link

“Robert Wyatt sings Blackstar” is eerily spot-on. It’s actually a bit distracting at first, like when you watch Christian Slater and it takes a few minutes to spot Christian Slater behind the guy practicing his Nicholson impression in the bathroom mirror.

That said I love the shit out of this

gray say nah to me (wins), Saturday, 2 February 2019 16:43 (one year ago) link

one month passes...

Anyone heard Beth Gibbons & The Polish National Radio Symphony Orchestra - Henryk Górecki: Symphony No. 3 (Symphony Of Sorrowful Songs)?

djh, Monday, 25 March 2019 19:58 (one year ago) link

cOMES OUT ON fRIDAY, i THINK. mY COPY IS ALLegedly in the post, sorry caps lock falure.

Mince Pramthwart (James Morrison), Monday, 25 March 2019 21:58 (one year ago) link

Possible I'm being a dick but the Youtube "teaser" didn't really, um, tease enough to prompt a purchase.

djh, Monday, 25 March 2019 22:01 (one year ago) link

three months pass...

whoa this record

american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 3 July 2019 15:26 (nine months ago) link

the new rustin man i mean, though out of season rules

american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 3 July 2019 15:27 (nine months ago) link

its amazing that he was learning all to play all the instruments on this album as he made it

. (Michael B), Wednesday, 3 July 2019 16:40 (nine months ago) link

six months pass...

This is definitely one of the best folk records ever recorded, but somehow it slipped under my radar untill recently.

nostormo, Saturday, 11 January 2020 19:35 (two months ago) link

Drift Code has been growing on me gradually over the last year, at the moment I'm listening to little else.

fetter, Saturday, 11 January 2020 20:02 (two months ago) link

drift code would be nice if he would not sing. his voice really sounds like an old man without any teeth left. it reminds me of robert wyatt but i love wyatt's voice. the main difference being that webb's voice is about two octaves lower and so absolutely unmusical. just terrible. besides that a fine album for sure.

walking towards the sun since 2007 (alex in mainhattan), Saturday, 11 January 2020 21:41 (two months ago) link

One hell of a "besides"..

nostormo, Saturday, 11 January 2020 22:01 (two months ago) link

I listen to Out of Season all the time.

akm, Saturday, 11 January 2020 23:03 (two months ago) link

I like him, he sounds like David Bowie combined with Edward Ka-Spel

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Saturday, 11 January 2020 23:13 (two months ago) link

One hell of a "besides"..

― nostormo,

lol, right?

Good taste, bit Victorian but who isn't? (jed_), Sunday, 12 January 2020 01:00 (two months ago) link

I'm actually laughing like fuck at that post and your response.

Good taste, bit Victorian but who isn't? (jed_), Sunday, 12 January 2020 01:03 (two months ago) link

Yeah, classic excelsior

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Sunday, 12 January 2020 09:04 (two months ago) link

I love his voice. "Drift Code" is easily the best album of the year for me.

Saxophone Of Futility (Michael B), Sunday, 12 January 2020 09:25 (two months ago) link

I don't love his voice, but there's definitely some interesting tension between the big pop moments on this record--like, say, the chorus of Our Tomorrows, or the climax of The World's in Town--and the vehicle chosen to deliver those payoff moments, which plays a large part of what makes the album memorable for me

a thousand keening bullshit-detectors (Drugs A. Money), Sunday, 12 January 2020 10:13 (two months ago) link

This hasn't really clicked for me until today. The Wyatt thing is clear but, if anything, it reminds me of a muted Super Furries or even Gorky's.

Life is a meaningless nightmare of string (Chinaski), Sunday, 12 January 2020 11:25 (two months ago) link

three weeks pass...

It took a while to make the first album, the second one seems to have come about a lot quicker: Clockdust, to be released in March!

willem, Tuesday, 4 February 2020 16:01 (two months ago) link

Das Triadische Ballett on the cover! A very encouraging sign even if this is Bethless.

nashwan, Tuesday, 4 February 2020 16:05 (two months ago) link

Great news! Live dates too

Saxophone Of Futility (Michael B), Tuesday, 4 February 2020 20:23 (two months ago) link

one month passes...

Listening to the new album now, feels more restrained but more confident than Drift Codes. Voice perhaps a bit stronger.

fetter, Friday, 20 March 2020 10:44 (two weeks ago) link

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