Could Yankee Hotel Foxtrot be a contender for #1, or is P4K too over its Wilco love affair these days?
― cervix-a-lot (Pillbox), Thursday, 1 October 2009 15:10 (sixteen years ago)
yeah the rest are kind of risky, but those 11 i would bet my left testicle on. and the missy elliot, i just figured that so addictive wouldn't be the only missy album on the list, which might have been silly logic but i dont think so.
― samosa gibreel, Thursday, 1 October 2009 15:11 (sixteen years ago)
pretty toney?
― just sayin, Thursday, 1 October 2009 15:11 (sixteen years ago)
xpost oh yeah, oops.
My Left Testicle have a new album coming out, right?
― Mr. Que, Thursday, 1 October 2009 15:11 (sixteen years ago)
My thoughts on this list- I should dig out Donuts again and finally get around to listening to all them Kompakt things. Don't really care about the order, but would love to see Discovery or Blueprint beat Kid A.
― Samuel (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 1 October 2009 15:12 (sixteen years ago)
It's true, it is dumb to feel disappointment about something being left off the list, but I can't help feeling a little glum if y'all are right and The Drift gets left off. Just because I thought ppl started to finally "get" Scott Walker Mk II this decade. God knows no one wanted to hear about Tilt the first five years or so after it came out. Mebbe you guys are right though, everyone at least gave a listen.
BTW Scik, Scott W is American, not a britishes.
― We're gonna destroy their van, we're gonna destroy their faces (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 1 October 2009 15:12 (sixteen years ago)
All I can say is Love and Theft better be in the top 20, or I may be forced to write them a sternly worded letter.
― kornrulez6969, Thursday, 1 October 2009 15:13 (sixteen years ago)
if MPP is number one, I will leave the internet for good. xposts.
Gukbe is off the web because of you.
― We're gonna destroy their van, we're gonna destroy their faces (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 1 October 2009 15:18 (sixteen years ago)
only two or three of my favourite albums of the decade have been on the list so far, and it doesn't bother me a bit. 200 is a really small sampler considering how much music gets released in a decade. also i don't want to sound like a sarcastic ass but is there some kind of joy or satisfaction in having your tastes reflected or reaffirmed by internet lists? i can't really imagine feeling that way.
― samosa gibreel, Thursday, 1 October 2009 15:19 (sixteen years ago)
xpost hahaha
― aTLDRiens (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 1 October 2009 15:19 (sixteen years ago)
don't want to sound like a sarcastic ass but is there some kind of joy or satisfaction in having your tastes reflected or reaffirmed by internet lists?
this is pretty much why internet lists get traffic afaik
I may be forced to do the same if it is in the top 20.
― Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 1 October 2009 15:22 (sixteen years ago)
is 'West Coast' in this bitch or what
― modescalator (blueski), Thursday, 1 October 2009 15:26 (sixteen years ago)
That was a zinger!
― kornrulez6969, Thursday, 1 October 2009 15:27 (sixteen years ago)
top 20 is relatively easy to predict, basically albums that at this point well they couldn't possibly be left off the list.
sufjan stephens - illinoisthe strokes - is this itlcd soundsystem - sound of silveroutkast - stankoniajay z - the blueprintradiohead - kid adaft punk - discoveryanimal collective - merriweather post pavilionpanda bear - person pitcharcade fire - funeralmissy elliot - under construction
Here are the other 9
bob dylan – love and theftwhite stripes – white blood cellsspoon – kill the moonlightmodest mouse – the moon and antarcticaInterpol – turn on the bright lightsThe knife – silent shoutWilco – yankee hotel foxtrotKanye west – late registrationNew pornographers – electric version
― kornrulez6969, Thursday, 1 October 2009 15:28 (sixteen years ago)
No worries. I zing gently, if at all.
(xp)
― Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 1 October 2009 15:28 (sixteen years ago)
I feel like I see more of the opposite -- some kind of joy/satisfaction in being COMPLETELY OUTRAGED that out of the countless records released in the past decade, some bunch of DOUCHEBAGS on some WEBSITE likes basically the same type of stuff as you but in a SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT ORDER, the idiots
― nabisco, Thursday, 1 October 2009 15:29 (sixteen years ago)
xxp well there ya have it folks.
― samosa gibreel, Thursday, 1 October 2009 15:29 (sixteen years ago)
no way @ electric version
the rest look right though
― extremely demanding on the hardware (ciderpress), Thursday, 1 October 2009 15:30 (sixteen years ago)
30 albums that were ranked highly in the past... there is bound to be some surprising exclusions:
agaetis byrjunblueprintcarter IIIdiscoveryfuneralillinoiskid akill the moonlightsilent shoutlate registrationmerriweather ppmoon & antarcticaneon bibleperson pitchsince I left yousmilesound of silverstankoniais this it?supreme clienteleturn on the bright lightswhite bloodyankee hotel foxtrotunicornsthe driftwalkmen - you & mechemistry of lifeliars - threw us in a trench…prefuse 73love & theft
― sofatruck, Thursday, 1 October 2009 15:30 (sixteen years ago)
yeah order is 100% irrelevant if you consider how the thing was compiled.
― samosa gibreel, Thursday, 1 October 2009 15:31 (sixteen years ago)
supreme clientele will prob be there too (unless i missed it already)
― mark cl, Thursday, 1 October 2009 15:31 (sixteen years ago)
ahh nevermind u put in there
lol I love Silent Shout but I think it's super super unlikely to make the top 20 of the decade
― a misunderstanding of Hip-Hop and contracts (HI DERE), Thursday, 1 October 2009 15:35 (sixteen years ago)
i wouldnt be surprised to see supreme clientele left off, a lot of musicwriter types jumped ship from that one to fishscale as 'best ghostface album' it seems (wrongly though!!!)
― extremely demanding on the hardware (ciderpress), Thursday, 1 October 2009 15:36 (sixteen years ago)
but I think it's super super unlikely to make the top 20 of the decade
surely it would having topped the 06 list?
― modescalator (blueski), Thursday, 1 October 2009 15:36 (sixteen years ago)
Yeah, I'd be shocked if it isn't in the top 20.
― Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 1 October 2009 15:37 (sixteen years ago)
silent shout was their #1 of year for 2006, unless all the writers who voted it high that year have left or disowned it, it should at least be somewhere on this list
― extremely demanding on the hardware (ciderpress), Thursday, 1 October 2009 15:37 (sixteen years ago)
I feel like I see more of the opposite -- some kind of joy/satisfaction in being COMPLETELY OUTRAGED that out of the countless records released in the past decade, some bunch of DOUCHEBAGS on some WEBSITE likes basically the same type of stuff as you but in a SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT ORDER, the idiots― nabisco, Thursday, October 1, 2009 11:29 AM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
― nabisco, Thursday, October 1, 2009 11:29 AM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
Yeah,
a) You can only make these claims if a certain amount of records you DO love are on the list. Thus the list supports your role as part of a demographic/movement/subculture. if you have a completely different top 200, you're probably listening to jazz or j-pop or video game music or 20th century classical and don't care what pfork has to say
b) Usually those type of "I CANT BELIEVE" people take GREAT PRIDE in BEATING the almighty pitchfork in their mind. [[insert ott retrades argument]], etc. Which is just another way of having your tastes reaffirmed. "I KNEW these dickheads wouldn't put Scott Walker."
― make the trap say YAY! (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 1 October 2009 15:38 (sixteen years ago)
Well, I don't really care either way. I like reading Pitchfork, and this list has pointed out a handful of discs I may be interested in, but have escaped my attention. I'm happy enough with that.
― Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 1 October 2009 15:39 (sixteen years ago)
xposts pointing out that Pitchfork totally loves The Knife
ha this basically goes to show how much attention I pay to Pitchfork
― a misunderstanding of Hip-Hop and contracts (HI DERE), Thursday, 1 October 2009 15:39 (sixteen years ago)
nabs,Especially since this is no question, a really good, really diverse overview of the type of music the indie world liked in the 2000s. I think anyone who has a huge problem with it is falling into one of that categories and is scared to admit it
― make the trap say YAY! (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 1 October 2009 15:39 (sixteen years ago)
(now, their totally batshit, revisionist list of music videos on the other hand...)
― make the trap say YAY! (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 1 October 2009 15:40 (sixteen years ago)
Is it possible Funeral will be #1? They are bound to have 2 Arcade Fire albums in the top 20. I may not fully agree, and maybe my perspective is skewed living in Montreal, but Funeral seems to me to be pretty watershed in the 'underground indie' scene moving towards more mainstream popularity.
― sofatruck, Thursday, 1 October 2009 15:43 (sixteen years ago)
if you have a completely different top 200, you're probably listening to jazz or j-pop or video game music or 20th century classical
Or pop and r&b LOL.
― lou, Thursday, 1 October 2009 15:44 (sixteen years ago)
Usually those type of "I CANT BELIEVE" people take GREAT PRIDE in BEATING the almighty pitchfork in their mind. [[insert ott retrades argument]], etc. Which is just another way of having your tastes reaffirmed. "I KNEW these dickheads wouldn't put Scott Walker."
OTM
― samosa gibreel, Thursday, 1 October 2009 15:45 (sixteen years ago)
Calling Pfork "idiots" for failing to rank a record is really just as bad as kshighway-types swallowing everything they say. They're both ploys to justify your own opinions and being comfortable in your skin--funny since it's a genre of music and criticism generally formed by people who aren't comfortable in their own skin.
― make the trap say YAY! (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 1 October 2009 15:47 (sixteen years ago)
sofatruck even though i'm also from montreal i can tell you now with 100% certainty that neon bible will not be in the top 20. however good it is, it is dissapointing as a follow-up to funeral and most ppl outside of montreal realize this. it's true everyone in town still freaked out about it, and i totally agree that funeral was the first really huge breakthrough indie rock album of the decade and is contender for #1. neon bible could've been somewhere else on the list, but not top 20.
― samosa gibreel, Thursday, 1 October 2009 15:50 (sixteen years ago)
no, you're right on those points, Whiney -- it's just amusing to see how livid people will claim to be that one of their top-10 choices ranked in the mid-30s, or something. but surely sometimes it's just as simple as people whose sense of what's huge and awesome and important is just unique -- say, people who attach really strongly to a small slice of stuff, and don't necessarily follow other stuff broadly enough to expect the things that, you know, other people care about. I mean, we often make this assumption on the internet that everyone knows everything and is all savvy about other opinions and whatnot, but that's ... not true.
― nabisco, Thursday, 1 October 2009 15:50 (sixteen years ago)
going through my old mp3s really makes me hope someone at Pitchfork goes for gonzo laughs and slides Marissa Marchant into the top 10 somehow
― a misunderstanding of Hip-Hop and contracts (HI DERE), Thursday, 1 October 2009 15:52 (sixteen years ago)
kshighway-types
Speaking of which, whatever happened to this dude? I'd have thought he'd be all over this.
― katherine helmand province (jaymc), Thursday, 1 October 2009 15:53 (sixteen years ago)
either he didn't actually exist or he decided he didn't want to put up with assholes
― a misunderstanding of Hip-Hop and contracts (HI DERE), Thursday, 1 October 2009 15:53 (sixteen years ago)
too many people were nice to kshighway and sock master got bored
― mark cl, Wednesday, September 30, 2009 3:39 PM
― congratulations (n/a), Thursday, 1 October 2009 15:54 (sixteen years ago)
samosa, I am in total agreement that Neon Bible was a disappointment, and it certainly wouldn't be in my personal top 20 or even 100 of the decade, but it does surprise me that it would be in their top 200.
― sofatruck, Thursday, 1 October 2009 15:55 (sixteen years ago)
Statistically, these will most likely be included in the top 20 albums:
Radiohead – Kid A (#1, 2000; #1, 2000-04)Jay-Z – The Blueprint (#2, 2000-04)Interpol – Turn on the Bright Lights (#1, 2002; #3, 2000-04)Outkast – Stankonia (#4, 2000-04)The Avalanches – Since I Left You (#3, 2001; #5, 2000-04)Sigur Ros – Agaetis Byrjun (#2, 2000; #6, 2000-04)Modest Mouse – The Moon and Antarctica (#3, 2000; #7, 2000-04)The White Stripes – White Blood Cells (#8, 2001; #8, 2000-04)Wilco – Yankee Hotel Foxtrot (#2, 2002; #11, 2000-04)Daft Punk – Discovery (#12, 2000-04)Spoon – Kill the Moonlight (#6, 2002; #14, 2000-04)The Strokes – Is This It (#15, 2001; #16, 2000-04)Ghostface Killah – Supreme Clientele (#19, 2000-04)The Arcade Fire – Funeral (#1, 2004; #45, 2000-04)Sufjan Stevens – Illinois (#1, 2005)Kanye West – Late Registration (#2, 2005)The Knife – Silent Shout (#1, 2006)Panda Bear – Person Pitch (#1, 2007)LCD Soundsystem – Sound of Silver (#2, 2007)Animal Collective – Merriweather Post Pavilion (projected #1, 2009)
Sad, but these are the close outliers:
The Books – The Lemon of Pink (#2, 2003; #20, 2000-04)Prefuse 73 – One Word Extinguisher (#6, 2003; #51, 2000-04)The Unicorns – Who Will Cut Our Hair When We’re Gone? (#10, 2003)Brian Wilson – Smile (#5, 2004; #25, 2000-04)Deerhoof – The Runners Four (#6, 2005)Boris – Pink (#9, 2006)Scott Walker – The Drift (#10, 2006)Lil Wayne – Tha Carter III (#11, 2008)
And, c'mon guys, as much as I'd love to see Kish Kash or Under Construction be included... it just isn't going to happen at this point. Too many other albums that "deserve" inclusion, based on these past rankings.
― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Thursday, 1 October 2009 15:57 (sixteen years ago)
Tomorrow is gonna be like christmas day for ilxor
― make the trap say YAY! (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 1 October 2009 16:00 (sixteen years ago)
i hope pitchfork gets him at least *one* sweater
― Mr. Que, Thursday, 1 October 2009 16:00 (sixteen years ago)
Let's go back to posting the funniest excerpts from the album blurbs, that Clipse one is pure gold.
― We're gonna destroy their van, we're gonna destroy their faces (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 1 October 2009 16:01 (sixteen years ago)
<I AM NOT JUDGING YOU>God the fucking Avalanches, who gives a shit. Who said that piece of shit crate-digging abortion mattered at all? Did "Motoring Britain" make your top 500,000 songs of the decade?</I AM NOT JUDGING YOU>
― cee-oh-tee-tee, Thursday, 1 October 2009 16:06 (sixteen years ago)