They're on Jools Holland tonight for anyone with BBC.
― plazzTT, Tuesday, 29 September 2009 14:50 (sixteen years ago)
Thanks!
― young depardieu looming out of void in hour of profound triumph (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 29 September 2009 14:50 (sixteen years ago)
"their TV debut"
― plazzTT, Tuesday, 29 September 2009 14:56 (sixteen years ago)
She looks like Fat Bob, no?
― Flowersdie (Beril the peril), Friday, 9 October 2009 12:47 (sixteen years ago)
I really like that "You've Got The Love" cover/remix they've done for Fat Machine.
― CosMc (Raw Patrick), Friday, 9 October 2009 12:51 (sixteen years ago)
It helps that she doesn't really appear on it.
Way late to the party, but this just came out in the States. Really, really fucking good.
― & other try hard shitfests (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 9 October 2009 13:00 (sixteen years ago)
This was out in Boston at the beginning of September!
― as strikingly artificial and perfect as a wizard's cap (HI DERE), Friday, 9 October 2009 13:07 (sixteen years ago)
Hmmmm, I don't know. It still is a $30 import on Amazon and most of the stores I asked at told me an October 20th date, but it happened to pop up in Best Buy of all places last week.
― & other try hard shitfests (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 9 October 2009 13:11 (sixteen years ago)
Nevermind, scratch that part about Amazon, I can't read this morning.
Anyway, I'm really really loving this.
― & other try hard shitfests (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 9 October 2009 13:12 (sixteen years ago)
you are right, it came out just this week in America or on October 6.
― Bee OK, Friday, 9 October 2009 14:02 (sixteen years ago)
I certainly didn't pay import price for it! huh
― as strikingly artificial and perfect as a wizard's cap (HI DERE), Friday, 9 October 2009 14:13 (sixteen years ago)
i like the mention of similarity to stars "nightsongs"--hadn't thought of that.
― cutty, Friday, 9 October 2009 15:02 (sixteen years ago)
I tried listening to this over the weekend, but failed to make it more than three songs deep. It is not understated and spacious. It is empty and more empty. Why do people want to be so rong about thigns?
― a bleak, sometimes frightening portrait of ceiling cat (contenderizer), Tuesday, 13 October 2009 16:10 (sixteen years ago)
I don't know, why don't you tell us? Kidding aside, I still think this is a beautiful album, I'm not sure why it is so confounding that people might love this.
― & other try hard shitfests (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 13 October 2009 16:54 (sixteen years ago)
Wasn't being all that serious. I'm used to people digging stuff I don't get. Would have to give a closer listen to provide a useful critique, and I'm not drawn to do that anytime soon. And who knows?, maybe I'll like it next time around.
― a bleak, sometimes frightening portrait of ceiling cat (contenderizer), Tuesday, 13 October 2009 16:58 (sixteen years ago)
They make emptiness a virtue.
― on a top secret challops mission in contraristan (The Reverend), Tuesday, 13 October 2009 17:06 (sixteen years ago)
^^^ This really is key. And I know this was discussed upthread, but I think the Young Marble Giants comparison is very apt. Not that the bands sound similar, but they both make fantastic use of the open space in their songs.
― & other try hard shitfests (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 13 October 2009 17:08 (sixteen years ago)
they're prob a v good example of what rtc hinted at in the dizzee thread - an act you have to go 75% of the way to meet, and you have to already value very specific traits. like emptiness and stillness. i like this: they weed out the people who demand to be whacked over the head w/hooks from the first listen.
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 13 October 2009 17:08 (sixteen years ago)
I don't demand to be whacked over the head with hooks. I just demand to be whacked over the head by something other than a denatured, style-conscious aping of far more interesting things (my first impression, admittedly incomplete). Say this as a YMG & Burial fan.
― a bleak, sometimes frightening portrait of ceiling cat (contenderizer), Tuesday, 13 October 2009 17:14 (sixteen years ago)
you have to already value very specific traits. like emptiness and stillness
Yes, and yes indeed.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 13 October 2009 17:15 (sixteen years ago)
oh yeah style-consciousness is another of those traits u have to be down w/ to appreciate the xx
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 13 October 2009 17:15 (sixteen years ago)
But now I'm curious. Will try again...
― a bleak, sometimes frightening portrait of ceiling cat (contenderizer), Tuesday, 13 October 2009 17:16 (sixteen years ago)
IMO don't try to listen to the whole album at once; focus on "Crystalised" and "Basic Space" first, then play the whole album.
Also I completely disagree that they are about de-emphasizing hooks; their arrangements are sparse but there are hooks aplenty in their songs.
― as strikingly artificial and perfect as a wizard's cap (HI DERE), Tuesday, 13 October 2009 17:21 (sixteen years ago)
i got irritated by so much dee-dee-dee-dee barney-style guitar playing but there are some real wow! moments on here... as per possible intent i've forgotten what they were or what songs they were in
― goole, Tuesday, 13 October 2009 17:24 (sixteen years ago)
On Crystalised. This is GREAT. Like moody soul/disco with 90% of itself erased. Getting chills at the chorus. Either I was not in the mood for good things when I heard this, or I bailed after the first two. Which still suck, IMO. Big part of my initial reservation was that I just did't like her reserved & breathy vocal approach, and that's still true. She's okay in small doses, but gets boring when she has to carry the whole sound. He's fantastic though, slippery & rich, pulled way back to suit the mood.
Could definitely see this album being a grower, but I'm not sure I'll ever really enjoy her singing. She deflects my attention and highlights a dispiriting sort of stylization -- the "emptiness" I was complaining about earlier. Otherwise, it's better and more independently interesting than I initially gave it credit for. Cryztalized does seem to stand head and shoulders above the rest, though.
― a bleak, sometimes frightening portrait of ceiling cat (contenderizer), Tuesday, 13 October 2009 17:56 (sixteen years ago)
lol most ppl like her and hate him
― as strikingly artificial and perfect as a wizard's cap (HI DERE), Tuesday, 13 October 2009 18:02 (sixteen years ago)
Though I'm more favorably inclined towards The XX on a relisten, the YMG comparisons, though valid, seem a bit too generous, IMO. This isn't anywhere near as distinctive, risky, personal or strange as Colossal Youth. I'd be more inclined to describe it in terms of Hot Chip and Chris Isaak.
― a bleak, sometimes frightening portrait of ceiling cat (contenderizer), Tuesday, 13 October 2009 18:02 (sixteen years ago)
also I sort of felt that way about "Crystalised", then I got into the first track and "Basic Space", and then before I knew it I was digging the whole album
lol most ppl like her and hate him― HI DERE
― HI DERE
rly? Her approach is so familiar and one-trick ordinary. Plus she just doesn't convince me. I don't get any sense of her connection to the music, the rhythm. It's not a good kind of aloofness, either: she just sounds generic. Do have the feeling that I'll grow to like her and this record more in time.
― a bleak, sometimes frightening portrait of ceiling cat (contenderizer), Tuesday, 13 October 2009 18:06 (sixteen years ago)
I think it's more of an "she sings in tune and he doesn't" issue
― as strikingly artificial and perfect as a wizard's cap (HI DERE), Tuesday, 13 October 2009 18:06 (sixteen years ago)
btw i have no style-consciousness, generally don't care about minimalism, love hooks, and i think this is a great album. i like the dude's singing but i also have a thing for "bad" singers so
― congratulations (n/a), Tuesday, 13 October 2009 18:08 (sixteen years ago)
I like him too but I do think she's a better singer.
― as strikingly artificial and perfect as a wizard's cap (HI DERE), Tuesday, 13 October 2009 18:09 (sixteen years ago)
Yeah, but I'm an indie, so I'm listening less for quality and more for character.
― a bleak, sometimes frightening portrait of ceiling cat (contenderizer), Tuesday, 13 October 2009 18:11 (sixteen years ago)
NP: Credit In the Straight World - such a great goddam band
― a bleak, sometimes frightening portrait of ceiling cat (contenderizer), Tuesday, 13 October 2009 18:14 (sixteen years ago)
I'm in the same boat as contenderizer, 'cept after a month and half, the weaker tracks aren't' growing for me. I'd like it better, in a weird way, if they was more filler. It would show off the best tracks. Crystalised is perfect, yep, and Islands and Infinity are close. But some of the songs aren't just empty (good!) but empty headed. And it bugs me. It's like half the record is this sexy new lover, and the other half is like having these annoying roommates who are always going at it.
They're really vital and original though. Major talent. Just wish I could take it as a whole. I like both their voices, when I like them.
― Eddie Cantor Supression Ring (bendy), Tuesday, 13 October 2009 18:20 (sixteen years ago)
oh yeah, i didn't mean to imply that their songs are hook-free - they're certainly there and they stick in my head. but they're not the first things to grab you, and you kind of have to accept the other traits before you can access the hooks.
i prefer her voice but he's a great foil for it, and also much deeper and richer live than on record.
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 13 October 2009 18:22 (sixteen years ago)
listening to this all the way thru for the first time....i think i like dude's voice better???
― a perfect urkel (gbx), Tuesday, 13 October 2009 20:16 (sixteen years ago)
listened to the whole thing once from start to finish. altogether quite solid but much less exciting than portishead's 3 from last year which is covering similar wild ground. lots of tracks i skip. many songs are too dense and compressed for my likes. coyne's voice is less embarrassing than usual. not too much falsetto on this. i don't think i will purchase it. i would trade it in for the last yo la tengo though.
― alex in mainhattan, Tuesday, 13 October 2009 20:27 (sixteen years ago)
I am almost 100% certain you are not talking about The XX at all.
― as strikingly artificial and perfect as a wizard's cap (HI DERE), Tuesday, 13 October 2009 20:30 (sixteen years ago)
habba?
― a bleak, sometimes frightening portrait of ceiling cat (contenderizer), Tuesday, 13 October 2009 20:30 (sixteen years ago)
in fact, I am going to assume you meant to post on this thread and call it a day:
The Flaming Lips - Embryonic
― as strikingly artificial and perfect as a wizard's cap (HI DERE), Tuesday, 13 October 2009 20:31 (sixteen years ago)
Don't you see? The dude is actually Dwayne Coyne, he records under a pseudonym. Alex just spoilt it for us all.
― & other try hard shitfests (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 13 October 2009 20:33 (sixteen years ago)
yes sorry, wrong thread, you are right, dan i meant the flaming lips album...
― alex in mainhattan, Tuesday, 13 October 2009 20:36 (sixteen years ago)
It's like Burial turned out to be famous after all.
This was confusing, 'cause there is a similar starkness to Portishead. And after all the other comparisons, I can't believe they just got mentioned for the first time.
― Eddie Cantor Supression Ring (bendy), Tuesday, 13 October 2009 20:38 (sixteen years ago)
I was half joking when I mentioned it before, but "Infinity" is so so strongly reminiscent of Chris Isaak's "Wicked Game". Especially the gtr (tone, phrasing, melody).
― a bleak, sometimes frightening portrait of ceiling cat (contenderizer), Tuesday, 13 October 2009 21:47 (sixteen years ago)
Ooops, the Chris Isaak cop's been mentioned by at least two people. Should have searched first.
― a bleak, sometimes frightening portrait of ceiling cat (contenderizer), Tuesday, 13 October 2009 21:49 (sixteen years ago)
― a bleak, sometimes frightening portrait of ceiling cat (contenderizer), Tuesday, October 13, 2009 2:11 PM (5 hours ago)
ha
― maalox (max) (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 13 October 2009 23:19 (sixteen years ago)
it's nice to hear somebody figured out how to bottle the vibe of the chromatics
― 鬼の手 (Edward III), Tuesday, 13 October 2009 23:27 (sixteen years ago)
i finally bought this and it is so goddamn good.
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 15 October 2009 13:39 (sixteen years ago)