once again sorry for sowing confusion the beardo thread is answering so many questions I have been having recently.
― hector (hector), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 20:32 (eighteen years ago) link
― renegade bear shot by cops on frat row (vahid), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 20:32 (eighteen years ago) link
― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 20:40 (eighteen years ago) link
― renegade bear shot by cops on frat row (vahid), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 20:46 (eighteen years ago) link
This comparison is dumb because of the huge disparity between the two scenes in the time-lag between the source material and its recontextualisation.
People hate on Big Beat because its seen as recontextualisation of black american music as dance music for white people. At the time it happened the source material was hip hop from about 10-15 years earlier therefore it could be seen as gutting a still-vital music genre of its controversial, violent and middle-class baiting aspects.
Beardo-disco is recontextualisation of 30-year old dance music of varying ethnic and geographical origin for white hipsters. Disco as a scene does not exist today in the way that hip hop did in the mid 90s, and furthermore, disco as a scene has already been made 'safe' in 2006 by endless cycles of revivalism and recycling so beardo disco can hardly be making it safe for white people.
Additionally given that big beat was a UK-driven thing, and the beardo thing is pretty much international its not even like you can claim its the same sort of people doing it!
If anything its more like rare groove or acid jazz.
― Jacob (Jacob), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 00:32 (eighteen years ago) link
----yikes! i thought the beardos were just Mancuso worshipers? i must be totally in the dark.
― mike simonetti (mike simonetti), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 01:33 (eighteen years ago) link
― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 01:46 (eighteen years ago) link
uh ... sure you can! weatherall, chicken lips, harvey, idjuts, lindstrom + prins thomas all dabbled in big beat.
If anything its more like rare groove or acid jazz
i don't think it's a big jump from acid jazz / rare groove to big beat, do you?
― renegade bear shot by cops on frat row (vahid), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 03:33 (eighteen years ago) link
but the audience for the latter was certainly more male than the audience for the former, at least in UK.
― Jacob (Jacob), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 03:44 (eighteen years ago) link
― Jacob (Jacob), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 03:45 (eighteen years ago) link
― Jacob (Jacob), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 03:47 (eighteen years ago) link
"Listen to this. 303 + 808 + Karen Finley. They're called S'Express. Is this the shit or what?"
I'll finally be able to make a fortune on eBay.
(re: Chip Nunez et al.. remember the remix they did of Skinny Puppy's "Stairs And Flowers"? Alien Sex Fiend's "Haunted House" (which was basically a disco dance medley of many song off Another Planet)? Remember the second version of Colourbox's "Breakdown", with all the crazy edit action? "Faggot shit" said the fans of Violent Femmes, Camper Van Beethoven, and Carnival Art... ok, not all of them.)
― aDOring NUTbians (donut), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 03:52 (eighteen years ago) link
― Makrugaik (makrugaik), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 13:16 (eighteen years ago) link
― W i l l (common_person), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 15:35 (eighteen years ago) link
― Makrugaik (makrugaik), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 15:37 (eighteen years ago) link
don't forget T.Z.'s "I've Got the Hots for You".
― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 15:46 (eighteen years ago) link
OHMYGOD
I did something like this on the radio once. We played the Luomo's remix of Smiling Off with Finley's "I'm An Ass Man" drifting in and out. Started playing her just because it was late enough that we could but it sounded really great next to all those moans in the song.
great meaning gross
― lf (lfam), Thursday, 15 June 2006 00:48 (eighteen years ago) link
i listened to one of those "Larry" bootlegs today. a side was some Paradise Garage classic while the b side was 3 Karen Finley monologues, one being Ass Man.
i assume they are made for mixing, as thye dont stand much on their own.
― jinx hijinks (sanskrit), Thursday, 15 June 2006 01:14 (eighteen years ago) link
---i have been doing that a lot lately. i like pitching down disco and house really slow. i dont have a beard though. (but my hair is kinda long)
― mike simonetti (mike simonetti), Thursday, 15 June 2006 01:25 (eighteen years ago) link
― PappaWheelie 2 (PappaWheelie 2), Thursday, 15 June 2006 01:32 (eighteen years ago) link
― jäxøñ (jaxon), Thursday, 15 June 2006 01:36 (eighteen years ago) link
― jäxøñ (jaxon), Thursday, 15 June 2006 01:38 (eighteen years ago) link
Map of Africa actually covered a song, no? Not just put the original song in some cool edit type software looping the bridge and attaching it to the intro while taking credit as an artist. Or at least that's what's been described to me by some of this "new exciting thing".
Again, I don't know what the fuck I'm talking about here. I'm asking if that's what Mike is saying because Mike and I share friends who have been ranting lately. I'm wondering if they've been ranting the same things to him.
― PappaWheelie 2 (PappaWheelie 2), Thursday, 15 June 2006 01:44 (eighteen years ago) link
― jäxøñ (jaxon), Thursday, 15 June 2006 01:47 (eighteen years ago) link
― PappaWheelie 2 (PappaWheelie 2), Thursday, 15 June 2006 01:54 (eighteen years ago) link
uh, hello ben cook / dj spun / idjut boys / rong music etc
― renegade bear shot by cops on frat row (vahid), Thursday, 15 June 2006 03:33 (eighteen years ago) link
Terje, Rong etc, are producing new stuff, and some pretty good new stuff.
― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Thursday, 15 June 2006 03:36 (eighteen years ago) link
― jäxøñ (jaxon), Thursday, 15 June 2006 03:45 (eighteen years ago) link
― breakfast pants (disco stu), Thursday, 15 June 2006 04:18 (eighteen years ago) link
Sort of. There is definately a difference, but house did inspire the previous pop style to change into Kwaito.
Why do you fight Vahid? Why?
― Makrugaik (makrugaik), Thursday, 15 June 2006 14:14 (eighteen years ago) link
― applejack carney (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 15 June 2006 14:33 (eighteen years ago) link
The 'Delayer' remix is fukin awesome.
― trees (treesessplode), Saturday, 24 June 2006 00:05 (seventeen years ago) link
― Makrugaik (makrugaik), Monday, 26 June 2006 16:54 (seventeen years ago) link
― flëétwøöd måçk (jaxon), Monday, 26 June 2006 17:23 (seventeen years ago) link
― Makrugaik (makrugaik), Monday, 26 June 2006 17:53 (seventeen years ago) link
Ace edits to feed all your cosmic needs! An essential summer floor-burner, played endlessly by Beppe Loda back in the '80s! TIP!
― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Monday, 26 June 2006 22:56 (seventeen years ago) link
― flëétwøöd måçk (jaxon), Monday, 26 June 2006 23:12 (seventeen years ago) link
not relevant to the thread but pitch way up Happy Monday's "Hallelujah" and its even wilder, with nary a trace of helium.
― jinx hijinks (sanskrit), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 02:28 (seventeen years ago) link
jaxon, mr. gill, et al. more about Tom Petty cosmic please, particularly the b-side (who did it?)
― jinx hijinks (sanskrit), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 02:31 (seventeen years ago) link
― flëétwøöd måçk (jaxon), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 02:47 (seventeen years ago) link
ok, i lied. my mp3 was mislabled. it's really Ugly Edits 7 that i love. GQ's "Lies". god, what a fucking amazing song.
― flëétwøöd måçk (jaxon), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 04:53 (seventeen years ago) link
It seems so, over on the DJ History board (aka Beardo Central.)
― Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 07:12 (seventeen years ago) link
― the fuckablity of late picasso (vahid), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 07:14 (seventeen years ago) link
― the fuckablity of late picasso (vahid), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 07:15 (seventeen years ago) link
― the fuckablity of late picasso (vahid), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 07:24 (seventeen years ago) link
― Bea Arthur - Lost COmic GEnius ? (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 12:48 (seventeen years ago) link
― Bea Arthur - Lost COmic GEnius ? (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 12:50 (seventeen years ago) link
I have been thinking about something like this for a while, too. "right" would be especially good...
― trees (treesessplode), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 20:01 (seventeen years ago) link
-- flëétwøöd måçk (jaso...) (webmail), Tuesday 1:53 AM. (jaxon) (later) (link)
this afternoon i listened to a unnamed DJ's shockingly bad "Think Twice" edit, it simply stretched the best breaks in the song by looping them ten or twelve times and then returned to those passages on occasion to bloat the length from 6 mins to 12+ mins. appalling.
to understand how brilliant TP's "Lies" edit is, track down the original GQ track. Parrish removes all the chaff and distills the best moments of the song into something entirely new.
― jinx hijinks (sanskrit), Saturday, 1 July 2006 00:40 (seventeen years ago) link
mine too & probably my favourite track from last year.
― jed_ (jed), Saturday, 1 July 2006 00:44 (seventeen years ago) link