Let's talk about Dead (Mayhem)'s death photo. (warning: brains inside)

"They're all deluded. People should worry about what happens on their block. They should get along with their neighbors before they worry about the great ills of society and about telling someone who lives 200 miles away what to do."

He describes conventional politics as a parlor game played out to 19th-century rules while consumerism paves the planet and wipes out unique cultures. He says he never votes. He says vast nation-states are a ridiculous way to organize society, and that a tribal mosaic of small, tightly bonded groups would better suit a human nature he views as largely unchanged from ancient times.

"The only realistic way I would want to deal with society is on some sort of small level of people who have something in common, who look out for each other," he says."

he's talking about my friend joseph. but he was more like 18, probably. he is pretty snotty though.

Finally reading Lords of Chaos. Does it ever address whether or not Dead was openly or otherwise white supremacist, or has this been discussed elsewhere?

I never mentioned it on this thread, but the owner of the Pilot Light made fun of my dead Dead costume mentioned upthread. While dressed as a boy scout.

Quel douche.

Dead? I didn't personally know him so others might be better placed to judge that but the few people around him I knew always described him as a total (but likeable) misanthrope with an unhealthy fascination with death. The whole supremacist/nordic theme only caught on in that scene years after his death.

Yeah, that's certainly the impression they give in Lords of Chaos. Was Varg the one who kickstarted the white supremacist thing within the Norwegian scene, then?

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y300/fukkwitt/Burz1.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y300/fukkwitt/Burz2.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y300/fukkwitt/Burz3.jpg

December 96. Weird shit.

Wow. "Why kill one today, if you can kill them all tomorrow?"

This should be on the Varg thread!

Dead continues to be more interesting to me than Varg, Euronymous, et al combined.

he totally lived up to his black metal name

As Lords of Chaos unconvincingly repeats, they all did.

EYEROLL

ordo ad chao is so damned good

It really is - album of the year for me probably. Never thought they had an album like this still in them.

This is really something.

wow!

Yeah!

I especially like the beginning, when Hellhammer (?) appears to shower Pelle with dandelion flurries.

whoa

roxy you are as usual a champ!

;)

Started my first cross stitch project today:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v136/primrosehill/freezingmoon.jpg

The Annie + Varg story is all true. I JUST KNOW that i read an interview where she comments about some black metal stuff, but i can't find it.

Someone corroborate this!

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/arts/main.jhtml?xml=/arts/2005/03/03/bmwest03.xml

As 2am looms at the Spellemannprisen aftershow party, held in the opulent Grand Hotel in Oslo, Annie kicks off her spearmint-green high heels. It has taken a good hour for her to cross the party, receiving congratulations and dispensing bright "hellos" to acquaintances including Necrobutcher, bassist of notorious black metal outfit Mayhem.

Wow. Ok, but specifically about her dating Varg?!

searching

Stan, you are my fact-checking cuz.

here's something:
http://stereogum.com/archives/annie-hearts-joey-joe_001639.html#comment-75027

she also dated Euroboy from Turbonegro

these are all "someone on a forum" so not yet from the horse's mouth:

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=3715305&postcount=19

That guy seems to be a little light on the facts, though. xpost

(You're the best, Stan!)

:-)

Wish I spoke Norwegian though, because I can't find much more at the moment.

Here she is in a VH1 interview, talking about her record collection - Mayhem is the last one in the list, but she doesn't say anything personal.

http://www.vh1.com/artists/interview/1506025/072005/annie_1_.jhtml

Annie was 14 when Varg Vikernes was arrested for Euronymous's murder. I guess it still could've been possible that they dated before that (Vikernes was himself only 19 then), but I'm not sure how likely that is.

I thought he was 21?

Not according to Wikipedia.

Sheesh.

High school thing, probably - she only moved to Bergen when she was 13, according to Wikipedia again. So it must have been when she was between 13-15, if it really happened.

I think Vikernes was already in jail when she turned 15.

If he set that church on fire in 1992, then that may have happened while he was having a high school relationship with ... (uh oh, do you think that's why this is so hard to find?)

doesnt he talk about having a gf at the time of the murder who had an apt and went to techno clubs or something? that would give me the idea that she was older.

I think the varg/annie thing is either not true or better kept quiet...

(Should we ask the mods to ungoogle this thread just in case Annie is trying to hide all of this?)

Haw, you can't be serious!