Pitchfork's P2k: The Decade in Music

but why is p4k white people so enamored with rappers anyone who comes up with endless clever ways to say, "I sell drugs"?

it looked better the first way! very book-cover graphic.

lol

WTF @ that Discovery review

Let's not tiptoe around the subject: The National are a little boring.

how did this band make it ahead of King then?

Really! Discovery needs a reissue fast to correct that! xp

Also, can we put to death "folktronica" - I've read it like a million times in these blurbs.

xpost
or they could just get Tim F to re-review it!

OTM times 1000 Dan S

indie albums from 2000-2002 had the ugliest covers, jesus christ

95% of the time ian cohen is too far up his own ass but his 'mirrored' blurb is pretty great imo

Also, can we put to death "folktronica" - I've read it like a million times in these blurbs.

― Samuel (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, September 29, 2009 1:55 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

yeah seriously

133. Erykah Badu
New Amerykah Part One: 4th World War

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good post

149 Tough Alliance New Chance - didn't expect to see this at all

I didn't expect to see it one slot above Twin Cinema, which I'm bummed to see as low as No. 150. I'm guessing one or both of the prior TNP discs will be in the top 100, tho.

Also, let's not tiptoe around the subject: The Nat'l are a lot boring. I like them. Just sayin'.

133. Erykah Badu
New Amerykah Part One: 4th World War

fixed

― free stfu (The Reverend), Tuesday, September 29, 2009 4:51 AM (1 hour ago)

yeah it would have been cool if it was higher but it was only like 11 last year iirc? which was surprising enough itself so i'll take it

was thinking last night that 'Discovery' must be the most influential LP on pop generally this decade

Tim, I was hoping you or someone else could better articulate why "Discoery" might be a great choice, and what might give it its place as the album of the decade.

he did this well on Discovery vs. Rooty

Discovery was also massively infl and continues to be culturally, so far as the indie scene goes. COLOURS! DANCE!

based on how the relationship between technology & social life has progressed this decade w/r/t social networking sites, facebook myspace twitter youtube and the like that have really taken off in the past 5 years, it seems really inappropriate to make the statement that radiohead's theme of technology = alienation, paranoia, etc, that technology obscures the world rather than clarifies it, is still the defining statement of the decade. it might have still been in 2004 but def. not in 2009. unless they're going strictly by the writer list tabulation i can't see anyone making a statement for kid a still.

Yeah, but has any album captured the spirit and feel of those technological changes? Or even the spirit and feel of the last five years?

I'm not sure if Kid A is the best album of the decade, but it's a viable candidate.

Wasn't Art Brut their No 2 record of whatever year it came out? A huge WTF moment. But if ALL THEIR WRITERS voted it that high then, how come it's down in the vicinity of 200 of the decade?

There's a lot of revisionist history in every end-of-decade poll. I don't think you can go by the old album ratings or yearly best-of lists.

For instance, I'm pretty sure that M83's first disc received from Pitchfork a much higher numerical score than its most recent disc, but it's most recent disc is ranked much higher in the best-of-the-decade list.

Damn, there shouldn't be an apostrophe on that "its."

Change of writers? It was 4 years ago. xpost.

i actually really like that they have done that, also it's cool that they have included in this list some albums that weren't well-reviewed (tallahassee, which got a 6.7) and some that were never even reviewed in the first place (blood visions). the revisionism is a good way to make up for their major oversights and gaffs, and makes for a more interesting read in my opinion than just "yep, they still love that album."

comparing albums' placement on a list to their old pfork scores is the most boring bean-counting imaginable.

especially since OMG certain albums hold up and others don't

THEY GAVE TRAIL OF DEAD A 10 AND NOW IT'S ONLY IN THE BOTTOM 100?!?!?!?! WHAT A BUNCH OF CLOWNS WHAT A DISASTRO FOR PFROK

i actually really like that they have done that, also it's cool that they have included in this list some albums that weren't well-reviewed (tallahassee, which got a 6.7) and some that were never even reviewed in the first place (blood visions). the revisionism is a good way to make up for their major oversights and gaffs, and makes for a more interesting read in my opinion than just "yep, they still love that album."

I like this, too, but you're still assuming that there's a grand design to it all, that the revisionism is a deliberate choice, rather than a natural effect of the fact that a) it's a collective vote rather than a single review, b) there's a turnover in writers, and c) even the writers who have been around for several years will inevitably change their minds over time. It's sort of silly to imagine that the editors would say to their staff, "Hey guys, make sure you vote the first Arcade Fire album really high because Dave Moore, who doesn't even write for the site anymore and is now best known as a champion of teen-pop, gave it a 9.7 five years ago and we want to look consistent?" (I mean, Funeral probably will finish in the top 20, but not for that reason.)

people's fucking opinions change, jesus

god forbid i'm be tied to every opinion i had about a record in 2000

I used to want/demand some kind of editorial continuity over there, but it's ultimately a plus that Ryan's never cared about it, because you can't predict where an album will burn in in the scope of things. The rating is just a reaction. It's odd that so few people approach the site as a churning music news/commentary index v some kind of dusty MOJO archive of ALL MUSIC EVER, SORTED BY RANK.

Obviously the exactitude of the tenths ratings system is to blame, but somehow P4K gets to have it both ways. OMG PITCHFORK GAVE BITTE ORCA A 9.2 MUST. BAI. DID U HEAR IT YET? U HAVE NOT HEARD IT? WE ARE NOT FRIENDS v PITCHFORK LOL WHAT A JOKE U GAVE TOTD A 10.0 SIX YEARS AGO FUCKING RETRADES YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT MUSIC DIE∞+ **THIS**OFFENDS**ME**.

the only people yelling on this thread are whiney and c-o-t-t

haha, i like this line from #126:

Mastodon make it work by tapping into the primal dread and awe that comes with a gigantic whale smashing the fuck out of a whole whaling ship.

what is TOTD? xpost

that national blurb actually captures what i like about the national even if that record's way too high

okay on a different note tho (see #124) i'm getting sick of hearing how "9/11 gave a whole new meaning to this lyric about buildings/airplanes/new york/helicopters"

Old; Yeller.

It just isn't possible to hear "This Mess We're In", with duet partner Thom Yorke singing "Can you hear them?/ The helicopters?/ We're in New York," the same way again.

uh, yeah it probably is

they deleted it after realizing there are three blurbs that talk mainly about 9/11 in the top 100

― some dude, Monday, September 28, 2009 12:39 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

They also edited my Tough Alliance review. I thought this was a really interesting point so I'm sharing with u all:

Ultimately, it's impossible to listen to The Tough Alliance without being reminded that the Coalition of the Willing was in fact the toughest alliance of them all. Here's hoping that the Norwegian duo's insistence that "any day's a new chance" galvanizes a flagging US global democratic mission into taking A New Chance in Iran and Pakistan.

you know ppl making fun of that set-up like two posts up, right?

TOTD: trail of the dead

that's not their name but great try

pedant bear

i would never call out the o.g. mistake but u can't perpetuate it imo

you know ppl making fun of that set-up like two posts up, right?

― ott or pop (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 29 September 2009 15:36 (19 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

so tim f cant make fun of it?

Judge Whinehold has spoken

i didn't even notice the misplaced the!