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way back on the thread now but those letters really pissed me off. not a single one attacked the journalistic wrongness of the voice pulling the web article. i bet that they got some letters along those lines too.

and haha for "balance" to pick a few "who cares if he lied" letters? ffs.

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Thursday, 9 March 2006 00:59 (twenty years ago)

the journalistic wrongness of the voice pulling the web article

please elaborate.

― don weiner (don weiner), Thursday, 9 March 2006 01:55 (twenty years ago)

compare to, e.g. the 'monkeyfishing' slate article i linked above.

or compare to if the ny times pulled judith miller's cooked articles on iraq from its online archive or etc.

the fact that they published wrong stuff is part of their journalistic and factual record and removing the "evidence" of it is dodging accountability.

also c.f. the gawker's point about one mr. "lucien"

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Thursday, 9 March 2006 02:24 (twenty years ago)

yeah that lucien thing is really damning for the whole paper.

― erklie (erklie), Thursday, 9 March 2006 02:30 (twenty years ago)

I don't know about "journalistic wrongness," but I don't dig the pulling of the article. They are trying to unring a bell. It's as silly as if these media outlets tried to erase history (albeit on a much smaller scale, fortunately for Nick):

http://preemptivekarma.com/truman.jpg

http://steveterrell.blogspot.com/NYPOST.jpg

It can be kept on the website with the appropriate disclaimers and links to the appropriate responses by all parties.

― Brian O'Neill (NYCNative), Thursday, 9 March 2006 02:34 (twenty years ago)

992

― blunt (blunt), Thursday, 9 March 2006 02:36 (twenty years ago)

I don't see any journalistic wrongness in pulling that. At all.

Also, media outlets all know that something like that is not disappearing. I'm not sure that legal threats regarding the veracity of the reporting would inspire the Voice to pull it off the site in order to make an honest effort to stop distribution.

― don weiner (don weiner), Thursday, 9 March 2006 02:51 (twenty years ago)

"the letter that presumably, like Janet Cooke’s Pulitzer and Adam Penenberg’s reporting on Jukt Micronics, set in motion Sylvester’s unmasking"

Gawker in continued eyeball-gouging agony shocka.

― Chris Ott (Chris Ott), Thursday, 9 March 2006 02:55 (twenty years ago)

6 left

― don weiner (don weiner), Thursday, 9 March 2006 03:12 (twenty years ago)

Re: the Voice's Letters... Respected screenwriter in not-knowing-the-difference-between-"who"-and-"whom" shocker!

― Paul in Santa Cruz (Paul in Santa Cruz), Thursday, 9 March 2006 03:57 (twenty years ago)

(Maybe "respected" is the wrong word.)

― Paul in Santa Cruz (Paul in Santa Cruz), Thursday, 9 March 2006 03:59 (twenty years ago)

Weren't some posts deleted from this thread? The thread count was well above 900 at one point (to my amazement, and as noted in some of the posts upthread); currently it's in the 800s again.

― Paul in Santa Cruz (Paul in Santa Cruz), Thursday, 9 March 2006 04:01 (twenty years ago)

it's been over a week, "new answers" constitutes the last seven days' worth

― mark p (Mark P), Thursday, 9 March 2006 04:12 (twenty years ago)

Rolling 2006 Nick Sylvester Thread

― o -- (eman), Thursday, 9 March 2006 04:12 (twenty years ago)

xpost Okay, that makes sense...

― Paul in Santa Cruz (Paul in Santa Cruz), Thursday, 9 March 2006 04:13 (twenty years ago)

Rolling 2006 Nick Sylvester Thread

-- o -- (...), March 9th, 2006.

Post 1000

― deeej...., Thursday, 9 March 2006 04:17 (twenty years ago)

Posts made arguing the number of posts do not count towards the final score.

― Jimmy Mod: The Prettiest Flower In The Pond (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Thursday, 9 March 2006 04:27 (twenty years ago)

they do if u use the cheat code!

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Thursday, 9 March 2006 04:29 (twenty years ago)

(for details on the cheat code, email nick)

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Thursday, 9 March 2006 04:29 (twenty years ago)

happy 1K folks

http://www.arrakeen.ch/usacan/062%20%20champagne%20tower.jpg

― midi sanskrit (sanskrit), Thursday, 9 March 2006 04:39 (twenty years ago)

btw i have now officially lost interest
(i know, a bit late)

― midi sanskrit (sanskrit), Thursday, 9 March 2006 04:44 (twenty years ago)

Cheat code is up up down down left right left right b a start.

― js (honestengine), Thursday, 9 March 2006 05:20 (twenty years ago)

I still love this one:

http://pitchforkmedia.com/record-reviews/a/audioslave/out-of-exile.shtml

― Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 9 March 2006 12:50 (twenty years ago)

I was hoping this would get locked at 999

― Chuck Woolery, Thursday, 9 March 2006 16:32 (twenty years ago)

yeah, I have to admit that's the one time where Sylvester brings the funny and I can't hate. I think of it every time I hear an Audioslave song now.

― Alex in Baltimore (Alex in Baltimore), Thursday, 9 March 2006 17:14 (twenty years ago)

more mysteries explained: http://www.gawker.com/news/nick-sylvester/sylvestergate-once-more-into-the-final-scene-159421.php

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Thursday, 9 March 2006 20:21 (twenty years ago)

i have a feeling everybody would stop talking about this if they'd just fire him already.

― ant@work, Thursday, 9 March 2006 20:32 (twenty years ago)

Will keep a lookout for him tonight on CNN.
-- Edward III (ehonaue...), March 2nd, 2006 1:53 PM.

Apologies in advance to anyone stricken with apoplexy whenever this thread surfaces, but Reliable Sources, CNN's show on news media, ran a short piece on Sylvester this morning. The story started out "The Village Voice must be a very tolerant place to work..." and continued by saying the paper "merely suspended" Sylvester. Also mentioned he was forced to resign from Pitchfork.

Whatever the potential effects on Sylvester's career, the situation could end up being more damaging for the Voice in the long run. I have to imagine this is more ammunition for New Times to steamroller over the place.

New cover story next week: Christgau's Consumer Guide to Spring Fashion.

― Edward III (edward iii), Sunday, 12 March 2006 18:22 (twenty years ago)

Hooboy.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 12 March 2006 18:33 (twenty years ago)

Well, personally I'd read a Christgau's Comsumer Guide no matter what they were about (see his mid-seventies ones on beer and yogurt), but...

― Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Sunday, 12 March 2006 18:53 (twenty years ago)

top of gawker, as of 5:54 EST, sez Doug Simmons has been shitcanned by NT boss Mike lacey…our beloved Nick is still onboard…

http://www.gawker.com/

― veronica moser (veronica moser), Monday, 13 March 2006 22:55 (twenty years ago)

This is really bringing "an understanding of the boundaries of journalism" to everyone now.

― blunt (blunt), Monday, 13 March 2006 23:13 (twenty years ago)

Dolly will surely love to hear this news.

― Yoo Doo Nut (donut), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 00:28 (twenty years ago)

http://static.flickr.com/19/22935964_a78556bf06.jpg

"So!... (pause).... Heard any good jokes lately??"

― Yoo Doo Nut (donut), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 00:33 (twenty years ago)

OK, the Voice has officially gone the way of Colonel Kurtz:
http://villagevoice.com/news/0611,news,72525,2.html

The only surprise is that that piece of paper is not smeared with blood and feces.

― joseph cotten (joseph cotten), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 02:04 (twenty years ago)

This is the end
Beautiful friend
This is the end
My only friend, the end

― gritty sanskrit (sanskrit), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 02:08 (twenty years ago)

― joseph cotten (joseph cotten), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 02:12 (twenty years ago)

I am truly amazed.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 02:15 (twenty years ago)

they so crazy.

― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 02:17 (twenty years ago)

apparently they fired the napkin proofreaders, too.

― erklie (erklie), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 02:20 (twenty years ago)

hahaha

― joseph cotten (joseph cotten), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 02:23 (twenty years ago)

I'm guessing Norman Mailer doesn't give a shit about any or this, right?

― gritty sanskrit (sanskrit), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 02:25 (twenty years ago)

Can someone translate the napkin plz? I can tell whether to be wildly outraged or sympathetic until I can clearly read a note on a napkin. Anonymous napkin.

NORMAN READS TEH NYPRESS NOW

― Suzy Creemcheese (SuzyCreemcheese), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 02:28 (twenty years ago)

arizona crony?

― arizona crony (gcannon), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 02:29 (twenty years ago)

DOUG SIMMONS IS NO LONGER ACTING EDITOR. WARD HARKAVY, LONG TIME SENIOR EDITOR, AND A RISIBLE CRONY / ALEISTER CROWLEY, IS NOW UTENSIL EDITOR. CALL US TOMORROW AND OH MY GOD THE VOICES THE VOICES

― joseph cotten (joseph cotten), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 02:35 (twenty years ago)

that note is suspiciously Riff Raff-esque.

― Alex in Baltimore (Alex in Baltimore), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 02:38 (twenty years ago)

i read it as "...and Arizona Crony..."

― erklie (erklie), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 02:39 (twenty years ago)

Mike Lacey is a breathtakingly maverick guy, but that thing with the napkin is nuts even for him. I wonder if he intends it to be used as toilet paper ... for someone who one told an art director that he "wipes his ass with design elements," it wouldn't surprise me.

― Chris O., Tuesday, 14 March 2006 14:44 (twenty years ago)

That's sort of the single craziest thing I've ever seen.

― Eppy (Eppy), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 15:13 (twenty years ago)

And to think there were concerns over feelings being hurt upthread.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 15:16 (twenty years ago)

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