Pitchfork's P2k: The Decade in Music

Wait, there are thousands of people who don't know what Grindin is about? Really?

Is anyone else having problems with PFM pages not fully loading?

this happens to my gf i think

can't someone do something about fucking will smith on this thread?

I thought "Grindin'" was about hoagies and grinders until Sean Fennessey's stunning revelation.

I am a lil disappointed by Carter 2's placement only because it probably means one of his overrated mixtapes will be way higher.

i don't think i know what grindin is about specifically but i mean i could take a wild guess

i guess also what the fuck does it really matter?

yeah i mean...he says it like there's some deceptive metaphor going on, not just a euphemism used in 800 rap songs for "selling drugs" and in 800 other rap songs for "working hard at whatever you do, which may or may not be selling drugs"

so 200-151 on the list have kind of a "really, this was it?" vibe to me

I am a lil disappointed by Carter 2's placement only because it probably means one of his overrated mixtapes will be way higher.

But at most, only two of them: "Please note that, in the interest of keeping the list broad, we capped the number of albums for any given artist at three." I see this glass as half-full. Regis Philbin has released two of the best discs of this decade; now I know both can place on P2k's list.

Oh, I liked Nos. 200 -- 151. Lots of discs I didn't expect (e.g., that particular Boris disc).

Only three albums per artist? Poor Amnesiac.

lol. Yeah, I guess it will be the odd-disc out for Radiohead. What will be left-out for other artists? I mean, Animal Collective had Sung Tongs, Feels, MPP, and Strawberry Jam.

i would lol if they made an exception for animal collective

i should clarify, there were plenty of records i liked in 200-151, and it was nice to see records i used to stan for (akuma) and still stan for (anything by the constantines) but i'd consider anything in there like a good, solid, record--not a classic. so i guess there are just fewer classic albums than i want or something.

Another band that might be hurt by that policy, however unlikely: The Clientele (Suburban Light; The Violet Hour; Strange Geometry; God Save The Clientele (I guess the new one -- out in early October -- is being released too late to qualify for the P2k list; still, that's four well-received discs in play)).

Daniel, I love you, and you are a valuable poster, but the Pfork fan fiction is getting a little o_O

Supreme, Pretty Toney and Fishscale right?

Daniel, I love you, and you are a valuable poster, but the Pfork fan fiction is getting a little o_O

lol. Okay, I hear you. Truthfully, I should be at services today, anyway. I am distracting myself from my guilt (and a horrible work project) by posting on ILX.

surely Hail to the Thief as the leper Radiohead album? Its reissue got an 8.6 while Amnesiac's got a 9.5.

I think we could have an all AnCo top ten if we're including EPs, come on Pitchfork, show some balls.

(Pitchfork, show some balls maybe not the best of phrases to come after talking about Pfork fan fiction. Or perhaps ever.)

I do fear for some bands who might be "hurt" by only getting 3 entries on a list of the best albums of the decade.

Surprised to see Silent Alarm place as low as it did. Curious as to whether the album's reputation has suffered in the wake of its poorly received follow-ups, or if it was never as much of a consensus pick as I recall it being. Fully expect the other big guitar albums of the first half of the decade to place in the top 50 - Interpol, Strokes, Yeah Yeah Yeahs, etc.

Pleased to see that Black Sheep Boy has appreciated in the past five years (tho). After this list is done, I'll be curious to see the full 200 compared to their original rankings in their respective Best of the Year lists. Always interesting to note what albums and sounds have had lasting relevance vs. those that turned out to be passing curiosities.

lol. Okay, I hear you. Truthfully, I should be at services today, anyway. I am distracting myself from my guilt (and a horrible work project) by posting on ILX.

Ditto.

On June 1, 2009, Air France Flight 447 crashed into the Atlantic Ocean. All 228 people aboard died. It's difficult to ignore that tragic fact now when reflecting on-- or, honestly, Googling-- an Air France record called No Way Down, and I know I can't possibly begin to feel the pain of those victims' families.

If this was in the Air France blurb at one time, it's not anymore.

i cant get the page to load, can someone post 200-151?

only 2 of my superfavorites in this chunk (tallahassee & black sheep boy), the rest all seems to be discs i like but dont love or are my 2nd favorite by the band

so it's kinda meh so far but you can't really make any grand statements with #151-200 in a list i guess

to everyone complaining about will smith: get one bookmark

If this was in the Air France blurb at one time, it's not anymore.

― katherine helmand province (jaymc), Monday, September 28, 2009 10:31 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

i didn't see it in the blurb either. an ilx poster sent it to me on AIM but i guess it was deleted before i even got there? or the poster made it up to embarrass me.

way to ruin pitchfork J0rdan S

way to ruin an entire DECADE of music

they deleted it after realizing there are three blurbs that talk mainly about 9/11 in the top 100

I am a lil disappointed by Carter 2's placement only because it probably means one of his overrated mixtapes will be way higher.

― guccislamic deejihad (some dude), Monday, September 28, 2009 9:22 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark

i wasn't sure whether to be surprised at it even being on the list or at the fact that it placed pretty low. i remember back when it dropped it got a good review but it was kind of like a vanity review not unlike idk deej's review of quik & kurupt. i dont think it placed on the 06 list (came out too late in 05 right?) but i could see it picking up some critical steam for a list like this post-wayne renaissance. unless it was voted in exclusively by the rap writer voting block which i guess would be plausible considering the placement of the scarface record.

it is pretty funny that wayne of all people might have been hampered by the 'three album limit' rule. i would've guessed that c2 would be the one left out considering the placement of dedication 2/drought 3/c3 on their year end lists.

a lot of the rap records that are on the list or will be on the list didn't get big reviews and/or year end list placement at the time, C2 is not at all unique or surprising in that respect. (xpost)

i still think you're way off on predicting/fearing that C3 will be big on PF or anyone else's decade lists

first Pitchfork, Now Uncut

in the new issue of Uncut magazine on sale this week: Uncut's 150 Greatest Albums Of The 21st Century. . .So Far

as indicated in their monthly new issue email: duplicated here
http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/splinters/message/105260

anyone seen the list yet?

1 down 149 to go
apparently Smile is number 4 according to a quick google search

Like I said way up thread, 10 years ago Spin and RS had their 90s issues out in late summer/early fall, so that's not very surprising (though I think the UK mags waited until 2000 to run theirs)

I'm actively surprised Max Tundra didn't rank higher -- I thought there were at least 3-5 people on staff who'd have it up toward their top 10. I dunno, though, maybe it takes more than that to rank high!

That 'noise' thing....wow. Animal Collective is/ever was noise? They should have just called it 'lo-fi' or 'experimental' instead of noise. Hell, most of the acts they talk about are straight-up guitars-and-drums bands that just tend to have shitty recordings.

Animal Collective was pretty noise

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lip9f0tyDU

I'm actively surprised Max Tundra didn't rank higher --

I was mostly just surprised you didn't write the blurb.

k3vin k, the page won't open for me when I use internet explorer (not sure why) but opens fine with mozilla firefox

Daft Punk and Justice reveled in gloriously superficial properties of rock, the Aqua-Net and motivational platitudes. But Vitalic came first

Bzzzt.

I assume that's considering Daft Punk not to have dug in that direction until Human After All

Or, well ... I don't know about that description or those reference points, but if you don't much care about DJ Hell or anything, I can definitely see thinking of those earlier Vitalic singles as the early missing link between new electro and mid-decade rock-bangers stuff, I guess?

haha it's flat-out wrong, Nabisco.

can't wait to see how this "posts very much in character" battle is gonna play out.

lol