I give you JAMBIENT
― sonderangerbot, Monday, 13 October 2008 21:25 (fifteen years ago) link
Haha. Move D has some explaining to do :)
http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=14108
― Treblekicker, Monday, 13 October 2008 21:27 (fifteen years ago) link
Paul Schütze - Apart (disc 1) (electronic / microtonal take, but definitely chasing 'Shhh / Peaceful" - his later band 'Phantom City' was more about 70's Miles) - http://www.furious.com/PERFECT/schutze1.htmlBrian Eno - "Iced World" (I wish The Drop had just been a 60 minute version of this track)
― Milton Parker, Monday, 13 October 2008 21:29 (fifteen years ago) link
isn't that somewhat closer to ambient er...Eno than jazz? Fripp & Eno, say?
(christ, that jambient post has made me almost physically ill--just imagining the horror, the horror. *shivers*)
xxxp
― "I'ma lose my religion and go secular on you, boy" (Ioannis), Monday, 13 October 2008 21:30 (fifteen years ago) link
i have a record with Tony Allen and Doctor L called Psycho on Da Bus that definitely reminds me of IASW, but with an afrofunk edge.
http://www.myspace.com/doctorlmind
http://www.last.fm/music/Doctor+L,+Tony+Allen,+Jean+Phi/Psycho+On+Da+Bus
― jaxon, Monday, 13 October 2008 22:04 (fifteen years ago) link
definitely listen to K.I.S Compatible in the lastfm flash player (might be a bit more mellow bitches brew, but still has those sounds)
― jaxon, Monday, 13 October 2008 22:05 (fifteen years ago) link
Bohren Und Der Club Of Gore maybe? Especially Geisterfaust.
― Matt #2, Monday, 13 October 2008 22:59 (fifteen years ago) link
Listening to Bennie Maupin's Jewel In The Lotus from 1974 -- definitely has a bit of the IASW vibe. Hancock's on this one too, naturally. Either way, wow, beautiful record! GET IT.
― tylerw, Wednesday, 15 October 2008 16:31 (fifteen years ago) link
I would say that each of those records by the Mwandishi members are similar to In a Silent Way — not just the Maupin, but Eddie Henderson's Sunburst and Julian Priester's Love, Love as well.
― Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 15 October 2008 17:11 (fifteen years ago) link
Especially Geisterfaust.
read this as Geirzeist
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 15 October 2008 17:27 (fifteen years ago) link
this thread covered similar ground:
Miles Davis - In A Silent Way
on it i suggested the already-mentioned 'zawinul' alb, and also 'timeless' by jon abercrombie/jan hammer/jack dejohnette, especially the magnificent title track
'hanging gardens' is a v gd call; parts of 'ege bamyese' by can and of course 'zawinul/lava' on eno's 'another green world' also vibrate w/ some of the same teo macero space/time splice magic
― Ward Fowler, Wednesday, 15 October 2008 19:48 (fifteen years ago) link
check out the Polwechsel/Fennesz-Wrapped Islands disc I put out a few years back (on Erstwhile). I thought about namechecking IASW in the PR, but decided in the end it was a bit too much of a stretch. definitely an overlapping vibe, though, worth investigating for sure...
― jon abbey, Thursday, 16 October 2008 14:01 (fifteen years ago) link
Harvest Time off this:
http://lh5.ggpht.com/MyJazzWorld/SO5iM5Qvo2I/AAAAAAAADVY/_Ac7ce5N2DY/PharoahSanders_Pharoah.jpg
― matt2, Thursday, 16 October 2008 14:13 (fifteen years ago) link
Hmmm, the image was there for a second. Anyway, it was Pharoah Sanders' "Pharoah" album (aka Harvest Time). It has lovely cover art too.
― matt2, Thursday, 16 October 2008 14:14 (fifteen years ago) link
Okay maybe I made up that "(aka Harvest Time)" part. Anyway, I'll be quiet now.
― matt2, Thursday, 16 October 2008 14:20 (fifteen years ago) link
Except to say that it can be heard here: http://myjazzworld.blogspot.com/2008/10/pharoah-sanders-pharoah.html
Nice, I've never heard this album
― Ich Ber ein Binliner (Tom D.), Thursday, 16 October 2008 14:22 (fifteen years ago) link
hey! this one hasn't been mentioned yet: Van Morrison's Common One! It opens and closes with a Silent Way tribute pretty much. Great album, by the way, maybe one of Van's most underappreciated? Maybe just underappreciated by me -- hadn't heard it til recently. I also heard some of the Necks, and yeah, they are rad too.
― tylerw, Tuesday, 28 October 2008 22:25 (fifteen years ago) link
found a good selection for this thread, purchased on a whim this weekend:
herbie mann - the stone flute
http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm181/karl_ktarn/3-34.jpg
here's a review i found online:
A startlingly original departure from the trademark soul-jazz sound of Herbie Mann, this spacious and atmospheric 1970 recording flows within the vein of Miles Davis' Bitches Brew-era explorations. Throughout the record, Mann's flute floats in and out over sparse string arrangements, a light and airy gust of psychedelic bliss. The album opens with the exotic Eastern sounds of "In Tangier," arranged with unmistakable references to the original version recorded by 60s pop-icon Donovan on Hurdy Gurdy Man. Violins, viola and cello are all used to create a feeling of sailing through the celestial ether in a stoned state of mind. The second track is a rare cover of "Flying," the spaced-out Beatles instrumental from The Magical Mystery Tour, which Mann manages to recreate with an even more hallucinatory vibe. "Miss Free Spirit" is a strongly avant-garde affair, held together by Miroslav Vitous (soon to join Weather Report), who keeps things grooving along with just the right amount of restraint. Vibraphonist Roy Ayers showcases his bold imagination and technical prowess as a forward-thinking jazz player, a talent that would soon be suppressed as his commercial funk persona took over in the 70s. A major highlight is guitarist Sonny Sharrock's solo on "Miss Free Spirit," which makes a strong case for why Miles Davis recruited him to play (albeit uncredited) later that year on the epic Jack Johnson soundtrack. This is a totally unique Herbie Mann record, a must for fans of late 60s and early 70s fusion experiments of the highest caliber.---John Ballon (email)
― M@tt He1ges0n, Sunday, 7 December 2008 17:48 (fifteen years ago) link
The Tortoise thread revive made me go hunt down Jeff Parker's solo records, and they would fit the bill here.
― WmC, Sunday, 7 December 2008 18:20 (fifteen years ago) link
"almost makes up for all those horrid weather report albums dude did...almost."
why hate? they put out some wonderful dreamy stuff. i remember hearing weather report for the first time expecting some bleating prog fusion stuff and i couldn't believe how ambientmellowpretty it was. (long time ago. first album with airto.)
― scott seward, Sunday, 7 December 2008 18:34 (fifteen years ago) link
i just don't like 'em i guess. i have a couple...heavy weather..and something else...
― M@tt He1ges0n, Sunday, 7 December 2008 18:37 (fifteen years ago) link
While admitting that I probably have no idea what I'm talking about, doesn't some Jon Hassell have the same vibe?
― Hideous Lump, Sunday, 7 December 2008 19:09 (fifteen years ago) link
the earlier pre-jaco weather report stuff is different than the later stuff like heavy weather though. i think anyone who digs shorter/zawinul stuff with miles would dig the first WR album and the live in tokyo stuff.
― scott seward, Sunday, 7 December 2008 21:21 (fifteen years ago) link
i think i only have jaco type stuff. the way all the instruments sound on the two i have really bothers me....it gets my inner rockist/jazzist all up in arms.
the zawinul album i was talking about upthread is probably my favorite record i've bought this year so maybe i should check it out.
anyway i don't wanna be a negative nelly and distract peeps from peepin that herbie mann record, it's great!
― M@tt He1ges0n, Sunday, 7 December 2008 21:24 (fifteen years ago) link
have to say thanks again on this thread for the Necks reccs! Eeeyowch, they are incredible.
― tylerw, Monday, 13 April 2009 19:42 (fifteen years ago) link
this album is like son of silent way: maybe a little funkier.
http://www.jazz.com/assets/2008/1/10/albumcoverEddieHenderson-Sunburst.jpg
― m coleman, Monday, 13 April 2009 21:44 (fifteen years ago) link
i think anyone who digs shorter/zawinul stuff with miles would dig the first WR album and the live in tokyo stuff.
― scott seward, Sunday, December 7, 2008 9:21 PM (4 months ago) Bookmark
live in tokyo is a GREAT record
― 69, Monday, 13 April 2009 21:54 (fifteen years ago) link
Why was Sunn 0)))'s "Alice" from their last album (Monoliths & Dimensions) never added to this thread? Anyway, adding it now. ;-)))
― Lostandfound, Saturday, 19 September 2009 02:30 (fourteen years ago) link
In light of this - http://devonrecordclub.wordpress.com/2012/02/12/miles-davis-in-a-silent-way-round-21-nicks-choice/ - I'm thinking I might pursue a few more of these soundalikes.
― Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Sunday, 12 February 2012 10:52 (twelve years ago) link
David Behrman - On the Other Ocean
― bidfurd, Sunday, 12 February 2012 11:48 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGLg_d_0UDE
― doug watson, Sunday, 9 February 2014 16:19 (ten years ago) link
Always thought this was a shameless ripoff:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Xs4ddoxPtc
― Austin, Monday, 10 February 2014 01:45 (ten years ago) link
Post Up Your Mixtapes 2014
― doglato dozzy (dog latin), Monday, 10 February 2014 01:49 (ten years ago) link
garrett list's your own self is giving me a bit of an in a silent way fed through minimalism vibe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtJaLBtbhWs
― cis-het shitlord (Merdeyeux), Saturday, 28 March 2015 16:17 (nine years ago) link
The first two Weather Report albums with Miroslav Vitous on bass definitely fit in the Bitches Brew/In A Silent Way axis points.
There are other tunes later on in Weather Reports records that get into that area too.
― earlnash, Saturday, 28 March 2015 17:15 (nine years ago) link
that garrett list is really hitting the spot. thanks!
― who is dankey kang (Karl Malone), Saturday, 28 March 2015 18:13 (nine years ago) link
^^^ That Garrett List recording is spectacular indeed. Reminds me of Pharoah Sanders' Let Us Go Into The House Of The Lord. Pretty hard to buy though, it seems :(
― Steve Reich In The Afternoon (Against The 80s), Sunday, 29 March 2015 00:21 (nine years ago) link
this was mentioned upthread but wow this is similar and really good
http://www.jazz.com/assets/2008/2/23/albumcoverJohnAbercrombie-Timeless.jpg?1203727973
― kurt schwitterz, Tuesday, 12 April 2016 21:34 (eight years ago) link
Van Morrison's 'When Heart is Open', mentioned by Tyler upthread, is very good:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78-RiXhzz6M
― Austin, Friday, 1 July 2016 04:33 (seven years ago) link
8 years and no mention of Les McCann's Invitation to Openness?! It kind of slips into a Silent Way parody at times but it's a lovely warm listen,
― Sunn O))) Brother Where Art Thou? (Chinaski), Friday, 1 July 2016 07:17 (seven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqYkosktnmg
― EvR, Friday, 1 July 2016 07:24 (seven years ago) link
Mercury rev played Ssh/Peaceful live, not sure how frequently, but it did make it onto Lego My Ego as part of a medley with Very Sleepy Rivers.
― Stevolende, Friday, 1 July 2016 09:25 (seven years ago) link
Thanks for the Paul Schutze recommendation - very much enjoying Apart.
― Sunn O))) Brother Where Art Thou? (Chinaski), Friday, 1 July 2016 14:18 (seven years ago) link
you guys check this one out yet? https://schlarb.bandcamp.com/album/plays-music-for-airports
― tylerw, Friday, 1 July 2016 14:19 (seven years ago) link
I listened just the other day. Hmm. I think I like the first track, but I sort of lost interest (I know this is part of the point). What did you think?I think I prefer the Bang On A Can version.
― Sunn O))) Brother Where Art Thou? (Chinaski), Friday, 1 July 2016 14:24 (seven years ago) link
i thought they pulled it off nicely -- obviously very much "let's do music for airports like in a silent way" but i dig it.
― tylerw, Friday, 1 July 2016 14:25 (seven years ago) link
I'm not super familiar with Music For Airports - own it, rarely listen to it - but that Psychic Temple version is VERY Silent Way. Nice.
― Dan is a #VegetablePuppet, he is NOT REAL. #flatearth (Dan Peterson), Friday, 1 July 2016 16:39 (seven years ago) link
Didn't Eno say his idea of ambient music came from listening to He Loved Him Madly from Get Up With It at semi audible volume as he lay in bed ill?So some echoes of Miles might be likely.
― Stevolende, Friday, 1 July 2016 16:43 (seven years ago) link
It’s early 1975, and Brian Eno strains to hear the recording of 18th century harp music a friend has given him.
Eno is in recovery after being hit by a car and can barely get out of bed. After putting the record on with great difficulty and lying back down, he notices the volume is too low, and that one channel on his stereo is blown.
The sheer pain of moving forces him to listen to the record at a volume that barely eclipses the background sound of the room around it.
― Dan is a #VegetablePuppet, he is NOT REAL. #flatearth (Dan Peterson), Friday, 1 July 2016 17:17 (seven years ago) link
Found this, which I think is a compilation of 3 tracks from the same tv showhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmlZnnRsPOc
& if nobody's said Santana's Lotus it is pretty great in a liquid electric jazz way hich may not be exactly referent to that particular Miles lp but fits into the continuum. & has Leon Thomas onboard.
― Stevolende, Tuesday, 3 January 2023 11:45 (one year ago) link
Donald Byrd's Ethiopian Knights is pretty great too.
& Sonny Sharrock's Paradise is more balmy funk stuff with clouds of noise guitar . Again not sure if it does directly reference IASW but is a bit of an outlier in his catalogue for that balmy sunny funk stuff. That extended Whiskey A Go GO by the Herbie Mann group is also interesting since its that band from the turn of the 70s with some versions of tracks from the Sharrock's more avant late 60s lps being played.
― Stevolende, Tuesday, 3 January 2023 11:51 (one year ago) link
Lego My Ego the bonus disc that acme with Yerself Is Steam at one point had a version of Very Sleepy Rivers that went in and out of a track they called Shh Peaceful . I thought it was the version from this set so should be this one. Haven't listened to this through to see how much it showshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bm4iNxvTpI
I did find Mercury Rev mixed into various eras of Miles very well anyway.
― Stevolende, Tuesday, 3 January 2023 23:33 (one year ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rg6ZLG41C6s
Psychic Temple - Music For Airports (Live Studio Performance)
― corrs unplugged, Thursday, 22 February 2024 13:29 (three months ago) link
yes! this rules, wow
― budo jeru, Thursday, 22 February 2024 15:12 (three months ago) link
nice!
― bendy, Tuesday, 27 February 2024 18:21 (three months ago) link
this one fits in: https://cached.media/homage
― tylerw, Tuesday, 27 February 2024 18:36 (three months ago) link
Not obscure, but after listening to In A Silent Way since age 17, I loved discovering Freddie Hubbard's Red Clay a few years ago.
― paisley got boring (Eazy), Tuesday, 27 February 2024 18:43 (three months ago) link
totally. don't sleep on Straight Life either
― budo jeru, Tuesday, 27 February 2024 19:33 (three months ago) link
Nice one tyler - like that.
Do we need an ambient Americana thread? I guess the Fahey one does the trick but still...
― I would prefer not to. (Chinaski), Tuesday, 27 February 2024 20:33 (three months ago) link
not a bad idea — there's that "wide open desert music" thread, but that might be slightly more specific
― tylerw, Tuesday, 27 February 2024 20:51 (three months ago) link
Got to say the 2 keyboard version of the Allman Brothers with Chuck Leavell on electric piano and only Dickie on guitar doing “Elizabeth Reed” off the Wipe the Windows live album has a silent way vibe. Worth checking out if unfamiliar with the take.
― The Artist formerly known as Earlnash, Sunday, 10 March 2024 01:40 (two months ago) link
one of the biggest miles rips ever; intentionally so. still good imo-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEdP5DWFRccmark !sh@m ― "azael"
did you know our friend mark is a fairly hardcore scientologist?
― interstellar anthropologist+music philosopher, (Austin), Wednesday, 17 April 2024 19:43 (one month ago) link
Yup but I still listen to Miles too, despite the latter's own personal shit
― sawdust lagoon, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 23:34 (one month ago) link
Huh. I didn’t know that. I guess he might be responsible for Van Morrison giving a special thanks to L Ron Hubbard in the liner notes to Inarticulate Speech of the Heart.
― bbq, Thursday, 18 April 2024 01:54 (one month ago) link
i ask this mostly from a place of ignorance because my knowledge of both groups is very superficial-what about some of isotope 217 + chicago underground duo stuff?
(also kinda want a similar discussion for bands/albums/songs that rip bitches brew because have ya'll heard vitamin f by fontanelle? if yer gonna rip something off, that's how it's done!)
― interstellar anthropologist+music philosopher, (Austin), Wednesday, 22 May 2024 02:36 (six days ago) link
Vitamin F is great; if you like that, I also recommend checking out Vibration Black Finger's Blackism.
― Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Wednesday, 22 May 2024 02:42 (six days ago) link
will do ty!
also kind of answering my own question, here's the chicago underground duo doing a sorta sparse miles/gil evans mood-https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIlHBjdZsoI"red gradations" (2000)
― interstellar anthropologist+music philosopher, (Austin), Wednesday, 22 May 2024 02:55 (six days ago) link
that's great.
― budo jeru, Wednesday, 22 May 2024 15:15 (six days ago) link
Not to make it weird, but the 10-piece jazz-adjacent band I lead just released a record from our first pro-studio session, where the keyboard player had access to a nice Rhodes--accordingly, maybe this back half of the 15-min B-side on it where that Fender Rhodes playing is most prominent is the one time we ventured In A Similarly Silent Way? Curious as to what ILMers might think, and if it isn't your bag, then no biggie: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0iL6kAol3I
― River Through Howling Ska (Craig D.), Thursday, 23 May 2024 00:43 (five days ago) link
(Ah, the timestamp didn't seem to work--Rhodes-prominent Kinda Silent Way section starts at around 7:05)
― River Through Howling Ska (Craig D.), Thursday, 23 May 2024 00:44 (five days ago) link
not to make it weird, but this is really excellent music imo
― budo jeru, Thursday, 23 May 2024 16:07 (five days ago) link
Cheers! Thank you for typing that--I'd also rec one of the horn players in the band, Brodie West's Eucalyptus for a more properly-pedigree'd actual jazz group (I OTOH am musically illiterate/need to hire a bandmate who is an arranger to make 'real' charts) with half of these same players in it: https://brodiewest.bandcamp.com/track/squiggly-line
Brodie also has a quintet that's less groovy/with more jagged rhythmic edges to it (am trying to keep these specific track selections at least very vaguely Silent-Way-y, sorry for thread derail): https://brodiewest.bandcamp.com/track/fortress
― River Through Howling Ska (Craig D.), Thursday, 23 May 2024 23:52 (five days ago) link
craig, does you ilx mail work?
― budo jeru, Friday, 24 May 2024 01:49 (four days ago) link
craigfraid at the googlemail should do the trick!
― River Through Howling Ska (Craig D.), Friday, 24 May 2024 02:04 (four days ago) link
great thanks!
― budo jeru, Friday, 24 May 2024 02:07 (four days ago) link
cosign this is great!
― corrs unplugged, Friday, 24 May 2024 05:08 (four days ago) link