These remasters have made me reconsider the likes of Coldplay, who I think I'd been mellowing on. There really is no reason for them to exist at all.
The Beatles >>> Coldplay obv. but Coldplay are still great, and it's nice for some people to come up with some new songs in the classic style and not just the same ones that were written 40 years ago. Which is something Coldplay do better than most contemporary bands these days. :)
― Tied Up In Geir (Geir Hongro), Saturday, 26 September 2009 01:37 (sixteen years ago)
Can we retitle this thread 'HOW TO SPEND YOUR MONEY ON BEATLE$'?
I guess "How to buy" is (c) Mojo Magazine ;)
― Tied Up In Geir (Geir Hongro), Saturday, 26 September 2009 01:39 (sixteen years ago)
Haha. Good point!
Also xxpost re: anthologies being slippery slope into bootleg nerd-dom. I'm so OCD about them atm that that whole concept appealing to me. "Bootlegs? Yay!" And this is exactly why I'm sticking to limiting myself to one remaster a month. Nate's right...I'm already a lost cause.
― VegemiteGrrrl, Saturday, 26 September 2009 02:15 (sixteen years ago)
Anthology sounds WONDERFUL. Particularly the second disc of Anthology 2.
Listen to "Good Morning Good Morning" it is 1000x cooler than the album version. That track (and the awesome alternate title track) made me realize how much of a near-Revolver rock record Pepper actually was, underneath all the string overdubs.
― Adam Bruneau, Saturday, 26 September 2009 15:03 (sixteen years ago)
when you find yourself geeking out over the Sgt. Pepper multitracks, you'll know you have a problem
― tylerw, Saturday, 26 September 2009 16:26 (sixteen years ago)
Those Sgt Pepper multitracks are fucking AMAZING. I could listen to John and Paul singing She's Leaving Home unaccompanied forever.
― nate woolls, Saturday, 26 September 2009 17:03 (sixteen years ago)
they played some of those on the BBC George Martin thingy...def. amazing. MUST HEAR MORE OF THESE.
― VegemiteGrrrl, Saturday, 26 September 2009 17:23 (sixteen years ago)
That part where George Martin in the BBC6 doc where he talks about playing the backwards vocals for John and then saying, "and then I had to put up with backwards guitars for the rest of my life" is just fantastic...Where on earth can we get those multitracks they play throughout the doc...they are incredible!
― iago g., Saturday, 26 September 2009 18:11 (sixteen years ago)
RE: The indispensable Lewisohn book; its on torrents as a 60MB pdf if you're into that sort of thing..
― Adam Bruneau, Saturday, 26 September 2009 20:03 (sixteen years ago)
http://nevergetoutoftheboat.blogspot.com/2009/04/beatles.htmldunno if the links still work ... but, at long last, you can listen to the isolated audience noise from "Sgt. Pepper"!
― tylerw, Saturday, 26 September 2009 20:34 (sixteen years ago)
tylerw, thanks for that. I got the files, listened to a few tracks, then realized . . . I can pull these tracks into GarageBand and remix the fucking Beatles.
― a wicked 60s beat poop combo (Pancakes Hackman), Saturday, 26 September 2009 22:28 (sixteen years ago)
No matter what instrument he's playing, or who wrote the song he's playing it on, McCartney's got to try and show off his chops hasn't he? Taxman, Dear Prudence, Good Morning Good Morning, every bassline after 1964. He's a fucking enormous show-off. If he wasn't, The Beatles would have been shite.
― Sickamous (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 28 September 2009 18:34 (sixteen years ago)
can pull these tracks into GarageBand and remix the fucking Beatles.haha, yeah, I sorta tried doing some of that and came up with horrible crap. But someone with more skillz could probably do some cool stuff.
― tylerw, Monday, 28 September 2009 18:36 (sixteen years ago)
^^^ I tried this, too. Turns out they mixed it just right to begin with, I guess.
― Darin, Monday, 28 September 2009 18:44 (sixteen years ago)
I need this for all the Beatles albums. "Love" was a tease, more mashup require-o!
― staggerlee, Tuesday, 29 September 2009 00:45 (sixteen years ago)
Gosh that Lewisohn book, easily the best Beatles book
― Niles Caulder, Tuesday, 29 September 2009 00:53 (sixteen years ago)
Did they turn up the volume of the bass on these remasters? Sometimes it seems too loud.
― abanana, Tuesday, 29 September 2009 02:21 (sixteen years ago)
Yeah the bass may be a small tad loud, but it was really loud the first time I heard it on my laptop and once I switched off 'sound enhancer' or whatever it fixed the problem. Try that!
― Adam Bruneau, Tuesday, 29 September 2009 03:26 (sixteen years ago)
A friend of my mom's recently let me pick out any of her records I wanted. It was mostly classic rock that you find it most record stores, but she was an avid beatles fan. Mostly I took the beatles and solo beatles records. I found all of John and Yoko's records, and an George Harrison album I've never seen before. It's Called Wonderwall Music. It's mostly "eastern influenced. I can't tell yet if I like it or not. I never see any mention of it any where either. I'm not even sure if the beatles were broken up when he recorded it. Also she had Paul McCartney's first two solo albums, which I'm really loving. The second one has odd electronics on it, really unexpected electronics. Maybe with this current thread in reissuing beatles music, these will be reissued as well. I found a lot of mono beatles records too. Do these still fetch outlandish prices on ebay?
― Jacob Sanders, Tuesday, 29 September 2009 04:19 (sixteen years ago)
Jacob, it really depends on the condition of the records. Have a look here: http://www.musicpriceguide.com/index.php?ft=1&artist=beatles+mono&ordby=datacheck&ordby=price&ordad=DESC
― young depardieu looming out of void in hour of profound triumph (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 29 September 2009 07:02 (sixteen years ago)
Jacob, that Wonderwall music album has a lot of Moog on it. Pretty weird and primitive.
Did you end up with a copy of Fly or Feeling the Space by Plastic Ono Band? I'll buy those off you.
― Nate Carson, Tuesday, 29 September 2009 10:17 (sixteen years ago)
Separate question for the ultra-nerds: I've got a copy of Yesterday that needs to be peeled. How do I do it?
― Nate Carson, Tuesday, 29 September 2009 10:19 (sixteen years ago)
Don't - assuming you are talking about the butcher cover, it's worth more unpeeled (as long as you can verify the butcher cover is underneath).
― Guilty_Boksen, Tuesday, 29 September 2009 12:10 (sixteen years ago)
If you are adamant you want to peel it have a look here:
http://www.recmusicbeatles.com/public/files/others/butcher.html
― Guilty_Boksen, Tuesday, 29 September 2009 12:17 (sixteen years ago)
hey nate i think you are thinking of Electronic Sound by harrison.
http://www.amazon.com/Electronic-Sound-George-Harrison/dp/B0000070RC
wonderwall might have a little synth on it but it's mostly split between traditional indian music and sort of quirky, odd instrumental sketches that sound sort of like movie soundtrack stuff, a little in the same vibe of mark mothersbaugh's stuff in rushmore or something like that
wonderwall is a great record though
― scared of gaucho (M@tt He1ges0n), Tuesday, 29 September 2009 17:59 (sixteen years ago)
Holy crap, that 'peeling a butcher cover' link is pretty O_o
saliva?
Maybe I am not yet ready for the world of uber nerd-dom.
SALIVA?
― VegemiteGrrrl, Tuesday, 29 September 2009 20:31 (sixteen years ago)
lol yeah. jesus christ. i think that guy forgot the final step: "Cry Self To Sleep."
― tylerw, Tuesday, 29 September 2009 20:36 (sixteen years ago)
Between the saliva instructions, the intermittent SHOUTING, and signing off 'with love from me to you'...I think I have a pretty clear picture of this dude. And I would like to immediately erase it with a strong solvent.
I'm going to stay in the remaster kiddie pool. I don't think I'm ready for THAT.
― VegemiteGrrrl, Tuesday, 29 September 2009 20:42 (sixteen years ago)
The "Wonderwall" soundtrack is WONDERFUL. I absolutely love it. Recorded by George after MMT, I believe it was the first ever solo Beatles release.
Even better is "In the First Place", a track recorded for it by Liverpool friends The Remo Four and produced by George Harrison (and sung?) but unreleased until 2005 or whenever they issued the movie on DVD. Check out this song, it sounds just like Circulatory System:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyRIG-ZXt2U
Apologies if I have already posted this video on this thread (I may have). I just really really like this song.
― Adam Bruneau, Tuesday, 29 September 2009 21:05 (sixteen years ago)
Just listening to a New York Times podcast about the White Album remaster with Nik Cohn and Ben Ratliff, the latter who claims that there is a "consensus" that the White Album remaster is the "one to get" because it yields the most new sounds to hear, etc...is this how you all feel? i was actually the most "meh" about the white album (stereo) remaster, thought it didn't sound so different. anyone think the same, or agree?
― iago g., Friday, 2 October 2009 02:35 (sixteen years ago)
i meant or agree that it is the most revelatory of the remasters, etc...(thks)
― iago g., Friday, 2 October 2009 02:38 (sixteen years ago)
Am picking up the White Album remaster tomorrow (new month, new remaster, yay)...we shall see. Been listening a lot to the 87 cd, so I'm hoping for some wow moments.
― VegemiteGrrrl, Friday, 2 October 2009 05:34 (sixteen years ago)
anthologies are great but yeah, you will eventually wind up downloading the unsurpassed masters or comparable boots. when I finally got ahold of all of those, I sat up all night listening to them, it was like a whole universe had been opened up. it's still pretty weird that those are out there.
the best thing though is that revolution mix that leaked this year.
― akm, Friday, 2 October 2009 05:58 (sixteen years ago)
I think a lot of people have been the least thrilled with the white album remaster, from my experience. unless they mean the mono version.
I really liked him a hel of a lot more after reading the authorised biog "Many Years from Now', which is practically 90% Paul speaking verbatim. It brings out how he approached songs as an interesting challenge/experiment to make it more interesting for himself. I think he'd be much more liked if more people read that book.
― Bob Six, Friday, 2 October 2009 06:52 (sixteen years ago)
Is there going to be a poll on which is the best remaster? (Or have I missed it?)
― Bob Six, Friday, 2 October 2009 07:08 (sixteen years ago)
I think the stereo white album is awesome.
― Sickamous (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 2 October 2009 08:06 (sixteen years ago)
I think because of the 'facsimile' version from a few years ago, people are probably "white out".
(Was that a remaster?)
I'll have to give that one a listen...
― Mark G, Friday, 2 October 2009 08:20 (sixteen years ago)
Yeah, stereo White Albumis up there with Abbey Road as one of the best.
― Bob Six, Friday, 2 October 2009 09:24 (sixteen years ago)
I think the biggest improvement for me is MMT.
― Sickamous (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 2 October 2009 09:31 (sixteen years ago)
yeah, "white album" and "abbey road" sound great. I also got "revolver", which is also quite improved, and "rubber soul". Somehow, for that one, I end up liking it less than I remembered. Nothing to do with the sound, which doesn't blast me as much as the others still, but I just realized I like less songs than I thought.
Now I'm hesitating between "pepper", "MMT" and "past masters" : is "pepper" improved much ? I have listened to the mono remaster version and frankly, I don't see the point compared to the stereo, soundwise...
― AlXTC from Paris, Friday, 2 October 2009 09:32 (sixteen years ago)
oups, ok, I might get "MMT", then !
― AlXTC from Paris, Friday, 2 October 2009 09:33 (sixteen years ago)
and I mean, I don't see the point in mono remaster versions comparend to stereo version, in general, not just on "pepper" which stereo remaster I haven't heard yet... I'm confused this morning !
― AlXTC from Paris, Friday, 2 October 2009 09:34 (sixteen years ago)
Past masters is MASSIVELY IMPROVED and disc 2 is my most listened f all of these remasters.
― Sickamous (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 2 October 2009 09:41 (sixteen years ago)
hum... so I'm hesitating again... "pepper" is not THAT improved then ?
― AlXTC from Paris, Friday, 2 October 2009 09:44 (sixteen years ago)
I'm beginning to suspect these remasters were done by Paul's mum.
― tomofthenest, Friday, 2 October 2009 09:50 (sixteen years ago)
They're all improved, is the simple answer; buy whichever ones have your favourite songs on.
― Sickamous (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 2 October 2009 09:52 (sixteen years ago)
damn. that's all of them.
― tomofthenest, Friday, 2 October 2009 09:53 (sixteen years ago)
xpost
yeah, I suppose that's the best answer...I will go to the store during lunch break and let the feeling guide me.
― AlXTC from Paris, Friday, 2 October 2009 09:55 (sixteen years ago)
Blimey, The Feeling! I'd forgotten all about them!
― Mark G, Friday, 2 October 2009 09:58 (sixteen years ago)