Stina Nordenstam

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Yeah Dynamite was self-produced. It's quite amazing to think that it came out only four or five years after Memories of a Colour.

I actually expected This Is... to be more pop than it turned out to be (as I only got it about a month ago, if that) - "Lori Glory" is a big exception obviously.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 13:58 (twenty-one years ago)

I am utterly, ridiculously in love with "On Falling".

edward o (edwardo), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 14:03 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm surprised that so many of ILM's pop converts love Stina. Surprised but pleased!

Yeah "On Falling" is marvellous, although I think I probably adore everything except the last track (and even then I like it).

I think The World Is Saved will actually help me fall in love properly with This Is - I think my first few listens to the latter were fringed with nervousness that Stina seemed to be moving away definitively from the things I loved in her earlier work, whereas now I can appreciate it for what it is.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 14:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, This Is... is massively pop compared to Dynamite, and "Lori Glory" is just mind-bogglingly so. I've only heard a handful of pre-Dynamite songs, actually; I keep meaning to get around to acquiring the albums, but haven't yet.

Stina's the indie hangover from my pre-pop days!

The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 14:14 (twenty-one years ago)

i have to periodically listen to just "Everyone Else in the World". i only just noticed this now. I was in the middle of listening to World is Saved just now, and had to go back to it again. she does this a lot, gets her hooks into you by stealth

Jaunty Alan (Alan), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 14:15 (twenty-one years ago)

" I've only heard a handful of pre-Dynamite songs, actually; I keep meaning to get around to acquiring the albums, but haven't yet."

Oh, you have to hear And She Closed Her Eyes. If you find "Lory Glory" unusual wait till you hear her do upbeat love songs! "Hopefully Yours" and "Something Nice" - both really beautiful. It's a gorgeous record actually, a bit jazzy and folky but not as slight and genre-bound as Memories of a Colour. I can understand why it's a lot of people's favourite. The hushed harmonies in "When Debbie's Back From Texas" alone are enough to die for.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 14:22 (twenty-one years ago)

haha "Lori Glory" pretty much IS an upbeat love song. I will obviously acquire ASCHE in the future, it's been on the cards for a while.

The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 14:27 (twenty-one years ago)

"Hopefully Yours" is just swoonily romantic, and the lyrics are performed so brilliantly: "And I can't go on like this is not a way of telling you to be mine.... be mine" (that last bit sung so tentatively!).

I just listened to This Is and it sounded solidly great for the first time. I like it when ILX can change my reactions like that.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 14:32 (twenty-one years ago)

You know, it was only actually AFTER hearing The World Is Saved that I could pinpoint exactly what was awkward about This Is... - I still love it though, especially after Alan reminded me of "Everyone Else In The World".

Stina's delivery of her lyrics has always been exquisite - possibly something to do with the natural pitch of her voice being one which is more normally associated with drama and high emotion, but the timbre being very deadpan and low-key. I can't think of anyone else who does deadpan in such a high pitch.

The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 14:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, I used to find it interesting how Stina would be bracketed with Bjork, when in many ways they're polar opposites as vocalists.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 14:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, I can't complain about it as it was that comparison which made me check out Stina in the first place, but it's very lazy. Sometimes it seems like any woman whose voice goes vaguely high, or is Scandinavian, is compared to Bjork.

The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 14:53 (twenty-one years ago)

For some unknown reason, I lost track of her after the second album.

Speaking of vaguely elfin-sounding divas: has Anja Garbarek done anything since Smiling and Waving?

Andy K (Andy K), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 14:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Anja Garbarek! I own Smiling And Waving - it's magnificent. Far more similar to Stina than Bjork, too. I don't know if she's done anything since.

The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 15:02 (twenty-one years ago)

OMG Andy you have to get "Dynamite" it would be your favourite album EVER!

"The World Is Saved" too, but I suspect "Dynamite" first and foremost.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 15:04 (twenty-one years ago)

OMG Tim I'm listening to Dynamite NOW! Loving the rusty edges.

Who else is making records remotely like these people?

Andy K (Andy K), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 15:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Andy do you have some sort of home delivery system or what?

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 15:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Ze Zwedishen ist Zuper.

Holga from germany. Or is it Switzerland?, Tuesday, 9 November 2004 15:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Andy K is on the global frequency.

And he raises a good question - who is making records even remotely like Dynamite et. al.?

David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 15:36 (twenty-one years ago)

I have a prototype of the fully-loaded iPod.

Andy K (Andy K), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 15:47 (twenty-one years ago)

AKA "Hey Heather, would you mind running down to the archive for me?"

No North American release planned as far as I know.

*grousegripe*

Dynamite is the one other album of hers I still don't have, I think.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 15:54 (twenty-one years ago)

eBay is your friend, Nedward. Also, I could be persuaded to make it available to you, if you so desire (and if I can find it).

David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 16:04 (twenty-one years ago)

eBay is your friend, Nedward

Good lord no. (Had I ever fallen to an eBay addiction, I would be in a sorry state.)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 16:23 (twenty-one years ago)

I am a huge, longtime Stina fan, and yet I cannot stand This is.... Am I wrong?

adam... (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 16:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Yes, you are wrong.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 16:38 (twenty-one years ago)

but you like Suede!

adam... (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 16:42 (twenty-one years ago)

Precisely.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 16:43 (twenty-one years ago)

when was the last time you actually listened to This is?

Honestly I had no idea this was Brett Anderson until you told me. I still barely notice him on those two tracks. "Everyone else in the world" is easily one of her best song.

kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 17:05 (twenty-one years ago)

The Lex is very OTM re: Stina's high pitch deadpan. It reminds of a Thom Yorke quote I never fully believed: "You often have to sing unemotionally in order to sound emotional". Stina has this incredible way of projecting dramatic apathy; it often sounds like she is on the verge of collapsing and yet she couldn't be more comfortable in that position.

I have a bit of a soft spot for "This Is", because it was my first Stina record, but it does seem a bit too self-conscious in places. I have a feeling the bsides were kicked off the album because they were over 3 minutes long. I do love how the cheap MIDI saxophone riff on "Lori Glory" is nearly morphed into something meaningful by Stina's downtrodden vocals. The same transformation happens with the cheap synthesized acoustic guitars on Michael Mayer's "Slowflood" (although that is more due to the arrangement).

"This is" also has Brett Anderson sounding more dignified than 90% of his material post-Dog Man Star.

"And She Closed Her Eyes" and "Dynamite" are two of my favorite albums from the 90s.

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 19:29 (twenty-one years ago)

that saxophone on Lori Glory is such a Eno/Bowie rip off (it's straight off of v2 Schneider)! I love it!

kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 20:44 (twenty-one years ago)

I have a feeling the bsides were kicked off the album because they were over 3 minutes long.

B-sides? I didn't even know there were singles! What are the b-sides like?

I went back to This Is... and Dynamite last night and fuck me, they're both superb.

The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 11:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Sharon and Hope's first two lines always sound a lot like Walk Away Renee to me. I'm ok with it, but everytime I get disappointed, because Sharon and Hope's chorus is so much weaker.. :(

derrick (derrick), Monday, 22 November 2004 07:55 (twenty-one years ago)

one month passes...
Ok, again, I'm really enjoing The World Is Saved, and Tim is OTM re: Stina's arranging skills. It does work as a counterpart to Dynamite, but in an evolutionary sense; Dynamite feels like a rough, amateurish sketch(i do love it, still) for the songs on TWIS, in comparison. This is surely her masterpiece to date.

derrick (derrick), Monday, 3 January 2005 09:48 (twenty-one years ago)

"rough amateurish sketch" - hmm yeah on the one hand this is one hundred percent correct, but on the other... songs like "Dynamite", "CQD" and "Down Desire Avenue" strike me as really virtuouso in the arrangement department - rough, yes, but absolutely voluptuous at the same time. If anything I wish The World Is Saved had more moments like these, moments of unabashed surround-sound maximalism. The two which most fit the bill are my two favourite tracks - "From Cayman Islands With Love" and especially "Morning Belongs To The Night", which I'd say is perhaps the most accomplished, flat out impressive thing she's done.

People who like those might like a lot of the darker songs on Lhasa's The Living Road album, although Lhasa is pretty much the opposite of Stina vocally.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 3 January 2005 12:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, I used to find it interesting how Stina would be bracketed with Bjork, when in many ways they're polar opposites as vocalists.

People who like those might like a lot of the darker songs on Lhasa's The Living Road album, although Lhasa is pretty much the opposite of Stina vocally.

well, which is more accurate?

cutty (mcutt), Monday, 3 January 2005 13:38 (twenty-one years ago)

I'd forgotten that earlier comment! Stina is the opposite of a lot of people actually, in that she deliberately subtracts a lot of the emotion and expressiveness from her vocals. Lhasa's voice is deep and full whereas Bjork's is high (and thus closer in pitch to Stina) but Bjork is probably more OTT than Lhasa - who is melodramatic in a different way.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 3 January 2005 13:43 (twenty-one years ago)

There are a few moments of that grand sound on People Are Strange too, if I recall correctly, nestled in Like A Swallow, I Dream Of Jeannie, and Reason To Believe, but it still sounds relatively embryonic. TWIS is a confluence of the warmth and lushness of PAS with a more developed dissonance taken from Dynamite. This Is... is the odd one out, sitting more with the first two albums in terms of uncontinued ideas. TWIS is a much more natural follow up to PAS, for me.

I used to love Dynamite a lot, and it really hit me hard in, oh, 1999 or so when I first found it. Since getting into TWIS, I'm less enamoured, somehow. Maybe it's just less striking now. It's still a phenomenal album, just less monolithic, I guess.

re: vocals, yeah, it's a constant understatement. she's developed it over time, too; Memories of a Colour, while still nowhere near the operatic grandstanding Bjork is famous for, is much more conventionally expressive. She's become more deadpan with each album since, I think, and it's worked better and better, maybe less so on This Is....

derrick (derrick), Monday, 3 January 2005 20:37 (twenty-one years ago)

two weeks pass...
03 stina nordenstam - the things you said.mp3
01 stina nordenstam - i could still (be an actor).mp3
16 freddie wadling & stina nordenstam - v?landsvisan.mp3
14 vangelis & stina nordenstam - slow piece (128kbps).mp3
15 vangelis - ask the mountains (extended version).mp3
07 stina nordenstam - dynamite (soundtrack mix).mp3
09 zbigniew preisner with stina nordenstam - for you.mp3
11 stina nordenstam - people are strange (unkle remix).mp3
06 mew feat stina nordenstam - her voice is beyond her years.mp3
05 stina nordenstam - greetings from the old.mp3
02 stina nordenstam - now when i see you.mp3
13 fleshquartet (vocals by s nordenstam & tim wolde) - someo.mp3
04 stina nordenstam - treat me nice.mp3
08 stina nordenstam - first day in spring.mp3
10 yello with stina nordenstam - to the sea (radio version n.mp3
12 stina nordenstam - little star (be zet wireless edit).mp3

.ada.m. (nordicskilla), Thursday, 20 January 2005 02:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Are those all her rarities, Skilla?

The new(ish) album is fantastic. That is all.

David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 20 January 2005 02:27 (twenty-one years ago)

yes.

cutty (mcutt), Thursday, 20 January 2005 02:28 (twenty-one years ago)

I love that epic ambient remix of Little Star.

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Thursday, 20 January 2005 15:16 (twenty-one years ago)

two months pass...
Here's a rare interview with Stina from last year:
http://www.desireavenue.com/spec/singing/

Great reading.

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Monday, 11 April 2005 20:01 (twenty-one years ago)

two months pass...
"The World Is Saved" has now been released in the U.S. with three good bonus tracks: "Failing to Fly," Get On With Your Life (Pluxus Mix,)" and "The End of A Love Affair (Faultline Remix.)"

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Friday, 24 June 2005 00:55 (twenty years ago)

Hm, waiting a bit might have been the right idea!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 24 June 2005 00:59 (twenty years ago)

NICE!

David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 24 June 2005 02:13 (twenty years ago)

great

a real bear behind the microphone (nordicskilla), Friday, 24 June 2005 02:58 (twenty years ago)

Even nicer for you David, as a quote from your review made it to the album cover.

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Friday, 24 June 2005 03:01 (twenty years ago)

DAVID LOVES STINA

a real bear behind the microphone (nordicskilla), Friday, 24 June 2005 03:06 (twenty years ago)

YOU ARE SHITTING ME

David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 24 June 2005 03:07 (twenty years ago)

Heheh, the power of Pitchfork.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 24 June 2005 03:12 (twenty years ago)

I tried to order this via GEMM when it was released, but got ripped off. So, hurrah.

It's a shame all of her records aren't released in the States. Really an underrated artist of the last 15 years. Everyone I've ever played her for has liked her--and non-music-freaks like my sisters recognise her from the 'Romeo + Juliet' soundtrack, apparently, and like her, too.

I.M. (I.M.), Friday, 24 June 2005 04:03 (twenty years ago)


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