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How the fuck does Nelly Furtado have a career nowadays? Her last album sank like a motherfucking stone!!

― Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Friday, 21 July 2006 01:10 (nineteen years ago)

the Dom/Lex/Enrique kickaround here is hilarious!

and yeah the new Nellie F stuff - character & inspiration free PAP indeed

― fandango (fandango), Friday, 21 July 2006 01:29 (nineteen years ago)

Steve, "The Crush" sounds like a particularly twee, retarded Go-Gos pastiche.

― edward o (edwardo), Friday, 21 July 2006 01:30 (nineteen years ago)

ALSO the reason that Lex hates Muse is because Lex is indie as fuck and Muse are a popular, #1 album having rock band with actual fans, and indie kids hate that.

― edward o (edwardo), Friday, 21 July 2006 01:31 (nineteen years ago)

hahahaha

― HPSTRKRFT (haitch), Friday, 21 July 2006 01:44 (nineteen years ago)

"the muse love is like the 'dakota' love from last year redux. a bunch of people going "ooooh, we're going to say this hitherto terrible indie rock band has made a great single" just to be contrary"

:-(

Lex I think what's hindering your understanding of teh kidz is not understanding The O.C. soundtrack luv.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Friday, 21 July 2006 02:16 (nineteen years ago)

ALSO the reason that Lex hates Muse is because Lex is indie as fuck and Muse are a popular, #1 album having rock band with actual fans, and indie kids hate that.

I HATED THEM WHEN THEY WERE OBSCURE TOO! i hated muse before anyone else had heard of them. GRMPH.

Lex I think what's hindering your understanding of teh kidz is not understanding The O.C. soundtrack luv.

that's all stuff like hilarity duff and lindsay lohan though isn't it? and the odd coldplay song i assume. duff and lohan are ace, though no british teenager appears to like them.

― The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 21 July 2006 08:02 (nineteen years ago)

no british teenager appears to like them.

so ver kidz have got it wrong?!

nb, no, i don't think duff or lohan are really o.c. staples.

― Roughage Crew (Enrique), Friday, 21 July 2006 08:04 (nineteen years ago)

oh, annie

― Roughage Crew (Enrique), Friday, 21 July 2006 08:04 (nineteen years ago)

i seriously don't get the muse or 'dakota' love though? they're not even significantly better than anything else on those bands' back catalogues - they're as appalling and dreadful as ever and if anything more of an argument that that sort of thing should be STAMPED OUT.

― The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 21 July 2006 08:04 (nineteen years ago)

i actually agree with lex here -- you just have to hate those bands on principle, and there wasn't anything special about 'dakota' (haven't heard the muse one but life is short).

― Roughage Crew (Enrique), Friday, 21 July 2006 08:07 (nineteen years ago)

Love of "Supermassive Black Hole" isn't like loving "Dakota". "Dakota" is a gem from a band who usually deserve to be hurt very badly, melted down and used to coat roads. Muse actually have several very entertaining singles, especially "Bliss" and "Hysteria".

oh, annie

Quoted for truth.

― edward o (edwardo), Friday, 21 July 2006 08:14 (nineteen years ago)

how is 'dakota' a gem!!!

― The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 21 July 2006 08:15 (nineteen years ago)

It's affecting. I mean, to a human being rather than an other-fetishizing automaton like you Lex.

― edward o (edwardo), Friday, 21 July 2006 08:17 (nineteen years ago)

that's racist

― Roughage Crew (Enrique), Friday, 21 July 2006 08:18 (nineteen years ago)

"Dakota" is good.

Honestly no agenda really, it is just a good song!

― Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 21 July 2006 08:19 (nineteen years ago)

Ronan is racist too, clearly.

― edward o (edwardo), Friday, 21 July 2006 08:22 (nineteen years ago)

i'm speechless

― The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 21 July 2006 08:23 (nineteen years ago)

If we clink our wine glasses with our forks hard enough, will you give one though?

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Friday, 21 July 2006 09:07 (nineteen years ago)

And, yeah, Stereophonics had always been an ENEMY OF POP (TM), so "Dakota" love comes form a different place than Muse loving, what with them being a BOMBAST POP ROCK act and never having sung "Mr Writer".

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Friday, 21 July 2006 09:07 (nineteen years ago)

Mr Writer >>>>>>>>>> Dakota

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Friday, 21 July 2006 09:10 (nineteen years ago)

worst derail ever

― Roughage Crew (Enrique), Friday, 21 July 2006 11:29 (nineteen years ago)

I don't know, there's some quality Lexbot action here.

― stop moving. (cis), Friday, 21 July 2006 12:21 (nineteen years ago)

"Dakota" is a gem from a band who usually deserve to be hurt very badly, melted down and used to coat roads.

Except that "Maybe Tomorrow" is also a genuinely good pop track.

― brittle-lemon (brittle-lemon), Friday, 21 July 2006 12:24 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.thebubbleburst.co.uk/pics_people/the%20littlest%20hobo_before.jpg

― Roughage Crew (Enrique), Friday, 21 July 2006 12:26 (nineteen years ago)

That was the 1000th answer. Go Annie!

― JoB (JoB), Friday, 21 July 2006 12:31 (nineteen years ago)

loved dakota. brilliant tune. needs a JLC remix but then doesnt everything?

MEANWHILE to bring it back to Annie -

http://www.anniemusic.co.uk/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=891

― pisces (piscesx), Friday, 21 July 2006 12:31 (nineteen years ago)

i am becoming wary of the phrase "genuinely good pop track" to justify these horrifying contrarianisms. it seems to me to be but one step away from "proper songs with a decent tune that the milkman/the man in the street/your mum can whistle" or other such regressive, conservative, backwards-thinking nonsense.

― The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 21 July 2006 12:33 (nineteen years ago)

can the 'dakota' lovers please justify how any song, no matter how good the tune or even arrangement, can possibly be listenable if it still has kelly jones's emphysematic walrus voice honking over the top of it?

― The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 21 July 2006 12:33 (nineteen years ago)

what's progressive or forward-thinking or non-conservative about paris hilton?

― Roughage Crew (Enrique), Friday, 21 July 2006 12:35 (nineteen years ago)

postmodern, blank slate, cipher, fillintheblanks

(cis and i are currently engaged in a drawn-out study of exactly how and why these buzzwords are actually nowhere near sufficient to capture the immense importance of paris hilton to LIFE AS WE KNOW IT)

― The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 21 July 2006 12:36 (nineteen years ago)

postmodern, blank slate, cipher, fillintheblanks

that doesn't answer my question.

at all.

i mean 'postmodern'? wake me up when we get to, well, the '80s.

― Roughage Crew (Enrique), Friday, 21 July 2006 12:37 (nineteen years ago)

yes i know i was taking the piss out of naomi wolf! hence parenthetical stuff!

― The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 21 July 2006 12:38 (nineteen years ago)

ok, so what's progressive or forward-thinking or non-conservative about paris hilton?

― Roughage Crew (Enrique), Friday, 21 July 2006 12:40 (nineteen years ago)

There is NO WAY IN THE WORLD Paris Hilton is REMOTELY "a blank slate" when you consider the GIGANTIC AMOUNTS OF CELEBRITY BAGGAGE that she's carrying around. Might as well give Jade Goody a multi-million pound production to sing over and make the same claim.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Friday, 21 July 2006 12:40 (nineteen years ago)

but then again, one could listen to 'Stars Are Blind' without knowing who it is and never guess in a million years that it would be Hilton. i like that aspect a lot.

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Friday, 21 July 2006 12:43 (nineteen years ago)

I WAS TAKING THE PISS OUT OF NAOMI!

as i said nrq, cis and i are currently engaged in a study to determine what is so special about paris. we have not yet finished

― The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 21 July 2006 12:44 (nineteen years ago)

-- The Lex

Lily Allen AMIFUCKINGRITE??

ok, I've vented...

― fandango (fandango), Friday, 21 July 2006 12:44 (nineteen years ago)

I think the new Jessica Simpson video does what I think the Lex thinks Paris does sooo much better.

― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Friday, 21 July 2006 12:45 (nineteen years ago)

Erm, the xposts make that look a bit silly out of context.

Answer - there is nothing remotely progressive or forward-thinking or non-conservative about Paris Hilton and nor does there have to be. Lex is just being k-rockist in thinking he has to justify his taste with proof of her artistic worth. Like some other people I can think of.

xpost - Steve, but it's not intended to be listened to with no idea of who's making the record. It's meant to be consumed alongside the video and the mobile download and everything else. It's not meant to listened to like a Kompakt release or something equally faceless, so it's a bit off the mark to suggest there's much of a self-consious cipher element there.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Friday, 21 July 2006 12:45 (nineteen years ago)

I find myself nearly always 50% in total agreement with Lex about most things

and the other 50% of the time utterly baffled by his capacity for perverse wrongness :O

― fandango (fandango), Friday, 21 July 2006 12:49 (nineteen years ago)

It's meant to be consumed alongside the video and the mobile download and everything else. It's not meant to listened to like a Kompakt release or something equally faceless, so it's a bit off the mark to suggest there's much of a self-consious cipher element there.

I don't think this is set in stone. Lots of people will hear the song on the radio for first time and be surprised it's Hilton. And I think that sort of impact may cause them to rethink her (as a product), which gives SOME credence to the 'blank slate' idea.

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Friday, 21 July 2006 12:52 (nineteen years ago)

It's not meant to listened to like a Kompakt release or something equally faceless, so it's a bit off the mark to suggest there's much of a self-consious cipher element there.

you're right and you're wrong - on the one hand yes it is the whole package, the video and the image and the paris-hilton-ness of it all. but it's also exactly the kind of song you hear on the radio without realising who it is, esp if you are the kind of (weirdo) person who is automatically prejudiced against paris, and find yourself humming and so on, before discovering who's responsible.

i don't think all music needs to be progressive and fwd-thinking &c. but i do feel that one's overall approach to music should not be a conservative "oh that has a tune my mum can sing, it will do" one.

― The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 21 July 2006 12:53 (nineteen years ago)

haha xp

― The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 21 July 2006 12:53 (nineteen years ago)

"genuinely good pop track" to justify these horrifying contrarianisms. it seems to me to be but one step away from "proper songs with a decent tune that the milkman/the man in the street/your mum can whistle or other such regressive, conservative, backwards-thinking nonsense."

That's exactly what I meant by "genuinely good pop track, and I am exactly that conservative milkman-in-the-street, or perhaps I am even yo' mama.

― brittle-lemon (brittle-lemon), Friday, 21 July 2006 12:55 (nineteen years ago)

paris hilton *does* have a catchy tune, it must be said.

― Roughage Crew (Enrique), Friday, 21 July 2006 12:56 (nineteen years ago)

you and your ilk are responsible for james blunt

― The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 21 July 2006 12:57 (nineteen years ago)

and oasis, and the beatles. YUCK

― The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 21 July 2006 12:57 (nineteen years ago)

Lex, at what point do COOL POOR YOUNG PEOPLE ON BUSSES become UNCOOL POOR PEOPLE WITH JOBS, so we know at what point we should stop trusting their taste in music?

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Friday, 21 July 2006 13:02 (nineteen years ago)

Lex hates the Streets, hates Lily Allen, hates indie, hates Nelly Furtado. What the fuck DOES Lex like?

― Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Friday, 21 July 2006 13:38 (nineteen years ago)

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